[00:56] <Fudgey> hi guys, last two builds of shredder causes orca to not be able to read the folder contents
[00:57] <micahg> Fudgey: thunderbird trunk?
[00:57] <Fudgey> yes
[00:58] <Fudgey> thunderbird-trunk                     7.0~a1~hg20110611r7926+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1~natty  Email, RSS and newsgroup client with integrated spam filter
[00:59] <micahg> Fudgey: unfortunately, I'm a little out of the loop WRT trunk builds and what's working
[01:04] <Fudgey> i downgraded to thunderbird-trunk_7.0~a1~hg20110605r7885+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1~natty_i386.deb
[01:04] <Fudgey> thunderbird-trunk_7.0~a1~hg20110608r7905+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1~natty_i386.deb
[01:04] <Fudgey> now the folders read correctly
[01:07] <micahg> Fudgey: both of those work?
[01:10] <Fudgey> you test with orca did you micahg ?
[01:10] <Fudgey> the latest one i posted was not reading folder contents, until  i hit enter on an email no tknowing what it was and  then the window appeared reading it, downgraded and the folder items are read out.
[01:13] <micahg> Fudgey: you posted 3 versions one from June 5, June 8, and June 11, I was wondering which was the last one that worked
[02:03] <Fudgey> micahg  sorry thunderbird-trunk                     7.0~a1~hg20110605r7885+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1~natty
[02:27] <micahg> Fudgey: k
[02:27] <Fudgey> tks
[03:52] <micahg> Fudgey: unfortunately, I don't see anything offhand that would be causing your issue
[03:53] <micahg> Fudgey: if tonights build doesn't fix it, please come back tomorrow and we'll get a bug filed somewhere
[05:45] <Fudgey> micahg  can do that mate, thanks
[05:45] <Fudgey> how long till the next build is available, im on australia time
[05:57] <micahg> oh, looks like one was published 7 hours ago
[06:23] <Fudgey> same problem micahg
[06:23] <micahg> :(
[06:24] <Fudgey> 7.0~a1~hg20110612r7932+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1~natty
[06:41] <micahg> chrisccoulson: when you get in, could you suggest to Fudgey if a bug should be filed directly upstream for this?
[09:46] <chrisccoulson> Fudgey, is it easy for someone who doesn't normally use orca to reproduce this regression?
[09:46] <chrisccoulson> ie, are there an easy set of steps to reproduce?
[11:06] <fta> chrisccoulson, are you aware of the all the mozilla certs in ca-certificates?
[11:07] <fta> ...causing me pain: bug 791839
[11:07] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 791839 in bzr "bzr: ERROR: exceptions.UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte ..ordinal not in range " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/791839
[11:33] <chrisccoulson> fta - what do you want to know about ca-certs?
[11:33] <chrisccoulson> Fudgey, are you around?
[11:39] <fta> chrisccoulson, cleaner filenames ;)
[11:54] <chrisccoulson> Fudgey, ok, i'm stuck. everything seems to work as expected here. i'd like to do a hg bisect on this ASAP if there is an issue, but i need more pointers to what i'm meant to be looking for :)
[12:25] <Fudgey> chrisccoulson  sorry mate was out for tea
[12:25] <Fudgey> do you have orca installed?
[12:25] <chrisccoulson> Fudgey, yeah
[12:26] <Fudgey> when you arrow down in a folder the sender subject date are not read
[12:28] <chrisccoulson> Fudgey, hmm, that seems to be working here
[12:29] <chrisccoulson> which ubuntu version are you using?
[12:29] <Fudgey> natty
[12:30] <Fudgey> whats your orca version
[12:30] <chrisccoulson> Fudgey, 3.1.1
[12:31] <Fudgey> im on orca 2.32.2 and also hae  3.10.05
[12:31] <Fudgey> orca needs a output synth for text on screen isplay of what the synth is speaking
[12:32] <Fudgey> i just downgraded from orca master branch as im not using gnome 3
[12:32] <Fudgey> so am now using the branch for * gnome-2-32
[12:33] <chrisccoulson> Fudgey, hmm. i'll try on natty in a bit, but you might be better off reporting it upstream for now (specifying which build stopped working)
[12:34] <Fudgey> it was from two builds ago it started, i noticed straight away of course :D this is a pretty fresh natty install as ive been doign a lot of vinux builds ready for release
[12:39] <Fudgey> where upstream would i report it?
[12:39] <Fudgey> is there a bugs.mozilla.org
[12:43] <Fudgey> im sure it will get resolved
[12:47] <chrisccoulson> Fudgey, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/
[12:47] <Fudgey> tks chris
[14:59] <chrisccoulson> nice, just fixed a whole bunch of our jsreftest failures in one go
[15:46] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: ping
[15:47] <chrisccoulson> hi m_conley
[15:47] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: hello!  How are you?
[15:47] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, good thanks, how are you?
[15:47] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: good, but busy.  You know how it is.  :)
[15:47] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: I was wondering if you'd had a chance to bundle my extensions with TB-next?
[15:48] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, yeah, that's definitely going to happen this week :)
[15:48] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, are we going to get another beta this week?
[15:48] <chrisccoulson> i'd like to do everything in one upload if possible :)
[15:48] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: hrm - I thought you'd get it last week....that's when it was scheduled, I believe...
[15:48] <chrisccoulson> heh
[15:48] <chrisccoulson> no worries
[15:54] <fta> grrr, not sure if it's a vim regression in oneiric or something else but i now have to properly escape before moving location within a file, like old vi from 20y+ ago
[17:50] <micahg> fta: yes, unfortunately, ca-certs is a manual process of updating certs shared from NSS
[17:55] <fta> micahg, imho, bzr is broken, but it seems i'm not able to convince the devs. at the same time, certs filenames could be nicer
[17:55] <micahg> fta: yeah, bzr is broke for me as well on oneiric and I've filed a bug, I guess I should poke harder to get it fixed
[17:56] <micahg> fta: the cert names in ca-certs are very verbose
[17:58] <fta> i don't now why but every single time i file about about something related to canonical, they ignore me. launchpad, translations, bzr, the kernel, unity, bafm
[17:59] <fta> it's depressing :(
[17:59] <fta> +a bug
[17:59] <mdeslaur> fta: dude, didn't I ask you to file a bug about pam and it got fixed the next day?
[18:01] <fta> is it? i had to add a logcheck exception this morning as i was sick of getting hourly emails with hundreds of pam lines
[18:01] <fta> (and pam was not in my list btw)
[18:04] <mdeslaur> fta: oh, sorry, the update didn't get pushed yet
[18:04] <mdeslaur> fta: ok, carry on :)
[18:08] <fta> i don't have much more to say, i'm just wondering why it is like this
[18:51] <fta> chrisccoulson, is it the same in ff? bug 796689
[18:51] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 796689 in chromium-browser "Places menu entries not fully integrated" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/796689
[19:37] <chrisccoulson> fta - yeah, there's already a bug report for that though. it was reported years ago initially ;)
[19:37] <bhearsum> is there a ppa for Thunderbird builds out of mozilla-aurora?
[19:42] <fta> chrisccoulson, is this a bug in gtk or is that something apps have controls over?
[19:43] <chrisccoulson> bhearsum, no thunderbird builds from the aurora channel yet. are there actually mozilla.org builds of that now? if so, i will start ours too
[19:43] <chrisccoulson> i've been waiting, as i didn't want to start creating aurora builds before anyone else ;)
[19:43] <bhearsum> hmm, i thought there was, but apparently not!
[19:44] <chrisccoulson> fta - the application needs to actually use the API (ie, it needs to be able to open ftp and smb URI's via gio and read/write data from/to them)
[19:45] <chrisccoulson> there's already a firefox patch to do this, but it's sitting in bugzilla atm
[19:45] <fta> ok, thanks
[19:45] <chrisccoulson> (it's just the gio reimplementation of the old gnomevfs bits)
[19:45] <chrisccoulson> bhearsum, heh. i'll start creating builds once there are some on ftp.mozilla.org ;)
[19:46] <bhearsum> sure
[19:46]  * bhearsum goes to find out why we don't have any yet!
[19:49] <chrisccoulson> i think they're probably trying to get another beta out ;)
[19:49] <bhearsum> you must be physic
[19:49] <bhearsum> [14:48] <bhearsum> any reason why you waited?
[19:49] <bhearsum> [14:48] <Standard8> we wanted to get 5.0 beta out first
[19:49] <chrisccoulson> heh :)
[19:49] <bhearsum> he also said they hope to start aurora builds this week, so that's cool
[19:50] <chrisccoulson> excellent. i should probably try one locally tonight just to make sure it works :)
[19:54] <chrisccoulson> oh, aurora has been quiet today. there's nothing for me to build for the second night in a row :)
[19:55] <bhearsum> guess it's getting pretty stable!
[19:55] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i've switched my beta install to aurora now, until the next beta anyway
[19:56] <chrisccoulson> although i only really use the nightly atm
[20:14] <chrisccoulson> hmmm, bug 796758 is concerning seeing as that user actually has the up-to-date language packs installed and they don't have the addon compatibility reporter :/
[20:14] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 796758 in firefox "Erro no processamento de XML: entidade não definida" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/796758
[20:24] <fta> backporting gcc is taking longer than i excepted, many missing build-deps, and it takes 9h to build :P
[20:24] <fta> i'm not even sure it will help
[21:46] <fta> micahg, did you try to reproduce your ogg bug in M14?
[21:47] <micahg> fta: no, not yet
[21:47] <micahg> I can do that a bit later
[21:47] <fta> i tried, it worked
[21:47] <fta> at least as file:///
[21:47] <micahg> both autostart and the blue?
[21:48] <fta> well, i got the totem plugin
[21:48] <fta> i didn't run the script though
[22:15] <fta> wth is http://netbook-remix.archive.canonical.com/updates/pool/public/c/chromium-webfav/ ?
[22:16] <chrisccoulson> fta - it's an extension which allows you to bookmark sites in the old UNE launcher
[22:16] <chrisccoulson> there's an equivalent for firefox too
[22:16] <chrisccoulson> i guess nobody uses that now though ;)
[22:16] <fta> weird i never heard about it
[22:17] <fta> i even used UNR/UNE at some point
[22:19] <fta> !info liferea
[22:29] <micahg> fta: just tried on oneiric, but html5 is broke in oneiric :)
[22:34] <fta> micahg, https://code.launchpad.net/~chromium-team/chromium-browser/channels still stuck :(
[22:34] <BUGabundo> Linux  3.0-0-generic #1-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 9 16:32:10 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[22:35] <fta> BUGabundo, useless, just another version bump :)
[22:35] <BUGabundo> ahahahah
[22:35] <BUGabundo> (don't let linus hear y )
[22:36] <fta> he should have done that long ago
[22:41] <bhearsum> didn't ya hear? he wants to start competing with chrome and firefox version numbers ;)
[22:43] <BUGabundo> ahahahaahaha
[23:04] <chrisccoulson> hmmm, i'm wondering if i should update my machine?
[23:04] <chrisccoulson> is anyone else using an up-to-date oneiric?
[23:04] <fta> i am
[23:04] <chrisccoulson> how broken is it? ;)
[23:04] <chrisccoulson> i've not updated since last week
[23:04] <fta> about the same
[23:05] <chrisccoulson> ah, ok. i'll just go ahead and update then
[23:05] <fta> i just didn't try the last kernel
[23:05] <fta> it just popped up
[23:06] <chrisccoulson> hmmm, looks like i've got an entire mono stack to update
[23:06] <chrisccoulson> that's take a few days ;)
[23:07] <chrisccoulson> "Need to get 887MB of archives"
[23:07] <chrisccoulson> so, basically, i'm downloading an entire new ISO + some more
[23:07] <chrisccoulson> i may as well just reinstall ;)
[23:07] <fta> most problably tons of -dbg
[23:07] <fta> i dropped 240 last week
[23:08] <chrisccoulson> you're right. nearly half of that is chromium-dbg, firefox-dbg and thunderbird-dbg ;)
[23:09] <fta> chrisccoulson, http://paste.ubuntu.com/626181/
[23:09] <fta> i keep libc6-dbg for valgrind
[23:09] <chrisccoulson> heh, handy. thanks!
[23:10] <fta> i often have tons dbgsym because i now retrace manually with apport-retrace
[23:17] <fta> +of
[23:20] <chrisccoulson> hmmm, it seems like i really did break gxine
[23:23] <fta> hm, just upgraded the kernel, dkms failed on nvidia-current
[23:23] <BUGabundo> 3.0 working her
[23:23] <BUGabundo> *here
[23:23] <BUGabundo> with nouveau
[23:24] <fta> 3.0.0.0.1
[23:25] <BUGabundo> tooo many ones
[23:25] <fta> *sigh* it just says [fail], clueless
[23:25] <BUGabundo>   Installed: 3.0-0.1
[23:26] <fta> yep, but Setting up linux-image-generic (3.0.0.0.1) ...
[23:58] <micahg> chrisccoulson: it's more broke?