[00:56] hi guys, last two builds of shredder causes orca to not be able to read the folder contents [00:57] Fudgey: thunderbird trunk? [00:57] yes [00:58] thunderbird-trunk 7.0~a1~hg20110611r7926+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1~natty Email, RSS and newsgroup client with integrated spam filter [00:59] Fudgey: unfortunately, I'm a little out of the loop WRT trunk builds and what's working [01:04] i downgraded to thunderbird-trunk_7.0~a1~hg20110605r7885+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1~natty_i386.deb [01:04] thunderbird-trunk_7.0~a1~hg20110608r7905+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1~natty_i386.deb [01:04] now the folders read correctly [01:07] Fudgey: both of those work? [01:10] you test with orca did you micahg ? [01:10] the latest one i posted was not reading folder contents, until i hit enter on an email no tknowing what it was and then the window appeared reading it, downgraded and the folder items are read out. [01:13] Fudgey: you posted 3 versions one from June 5, June 8, and June 11, I was wondering which was the last one that worked [02:03] micahg sorry thunderbird-trunk 7.0~a1~hg20110605r7885+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1~natty [02:27] Fudgey: k [02:27] tks === asac_ is now known as asac [03:52] Fudgey: unfortunately, I don't see anything offhand that would be causing your issue [03:53] Fudgey: if tonights build doesn't fix it, please come back tomorrow and we'll get a bug filed somewhere [05:45] micahg can do that mate, thanks [05:45] how long till the next build is available, im on australia time [05:57] oh, looks like one was published 7 hours ago [06:23] same problem micahg [06:23] :( [06:24] 7.0~a1~hg20110612r7932+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1~natty [06:41] chrisccoulson: when you get in, could you suggest to Fudgey if a bug should be filed directly upstream for this? [09:46] Fudgey, is it easy for someone who doesn't normally use orca to reproduce this regression? [09:46] ie, are there an easy set of steps to reproduce? [11:06] chrisccoulson, are you aware of the all the mozilla certs in ca-certificates? [11:07] ...causing me pain: bug 791839 [11:07] Launchpad bug 791839 in bzr "bzr: ERROR: exceptions.UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte ..ordinal not in range " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/791839 [11:33] fta - what do you want to know about ca-certs? [11:33] Fudgey, are you around? [11:39] chrisccoulson, cleaner filenames ;) [11:54] Fudgey, ok, i'm stuck. everything seems to work as expected here. i'd like to do a hg bisect on this ASAP if there is an issue, but i need more pointers to what i'm meant to be looking for :) [12:25] chrisccoulson sorry mate was out for tea [12:25] do you have orca installed? [12:25] Fudgey, yeah [12:26] when you arrow down in a folder the sender subject date are not read [12:28] Fudgey, hmm, that seems to be working here [12:29] which ubuntu version are you using? [12:29] natty [12:30] whats your orca version [12:30] Fudgey, 3.1.1 [12:31] im on orca 2.32.2 and also hae 3.10.05 [12:31] orca needs a output synth for text on screen isplay of what the synth is speaking [12:32] i just downgraded from orca master branch as im not using gnome 3 [12:32] so am now using the branch for * gnome-2-32 [12:33] Fudgey, hmm. i'll try on natty in a bit, but you might be better off reporting it upstream for now (specifying which build stopped working) [12:34] it was from two builds ago it started, i noticed straight away of course :D this is a pretty fresh natty install as ive been doign a lot of vinux builds ready for release [12:39] where upstream would i report it? [12:39] is there a bugs.mozilla.org [12:43] im sure it will get resolved [12:47] Fudgey, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/ [12:47] tks chris === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley [14:59] nice, just fixed a whole bunch of our jsreftest failures in one go [15:46] chrisccoulson: ping [15:47] hi m_conley [15:47] chrisccoulson: hello! How are you? [15:47] m_conley, good thanks, how are you? [15:47] chrisccoulson: good, but busy. You know how it is. :) [15:47] chrisccoulson: I was wondering if you'd had a chance to bundle my extensions with TB-next? [15:48] m_conley, yeah, that's definitely going to happen this week :) [15:48] m_conley, are we going to get another beta this week? [15:48] i'd like to do everything in one upload if possible :) [15:48] chrisccoulson: hrm - I thought you'd get it last week....that's when it was scheduled, I believe... [15:48] heh [15:48] no worries [15:54] grrr, not sure if it's a vim regression in oneiric or something else but i now have to properly escape before moving location within a file, like old vi from 20y+ ago === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley [17:50] fta: yes, unfortunately, ca-certs is a manual process of updating certs shared from NSS [17:55] micahg, imho, bzr is broken, but it seems i'm not able to convince the devs. at the same time, certs filenames could be nicer [17:55] fta: yeah, bzr is broke for me as well on oneiric and I've filed a bug, I guess I should poke harder to get it fixed [17:56] fta: the cert names in ca-certs are very verbose [17:58] i don't now why but every single time i file about about something related to canonical, they ignore me. launchpad, translations, bzr, the kernel, unity, bafm [17:59] it's depressing :( [17:59] +a bug [17:59] fta: dude, didn't I ask you to file a bug about pam and it got fixed the next day? [18:01] is it? i had to add a logcheck exception this morning as i was sick of getting hourly emails with hundreds of pam lines [18:01] (and pam was not in my list btw) [18:04] fta: oh, sorry, the update didn't get pushed yet [18:04] fta: ok, carry on :) [18:08] i don't have much more to say, i'm just wondering why it is like this [18:51] chrisccoulson, is it the same in ff? bug 796689 [18:51] Launchpad bug 796689 in chromium-browser "Places menu entries not fully integrated" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/796689 [19:37] fta - yeah, there's already a bug report for that though. it was reported years ago initially ;) [19:37] is there a ppa for Thunderbird builds out of mozilla-aurora? [19:42] chrisccoulson, is this a bug in gtk or is that something apps have controls over? [19:43] bhearsum, no thunderbird builds from the aurora channel yet. are there actually mozilla.org builds of that now? if so, i will start ours too [19:43] i've been waiting, as i didn't want to start creating aurora builds before anyone else ;) [19:43] hmm, i thought there was, but apparently not! [19:44] fta - the application needs to actually use the API (ie, it needs to be able to open ftp and smb URI's via gio and read/write data from/to them) [19:45] there's already a firefox patch to do this, but it's sitting in bugzilla atm [19:45] ok, thanks [19:45] (it's just the gio reimplementation of the old gnomevfs bits) [19:45] bhearsum, heh. i'll start creating builds once there are some on ftp.mozilla.org ;) [19:46] sure [19:46] * bhearsum goes to find out why we don't have any yet! [19:49] i think they're probably trying to get another beta out ;) [19:49] you must be physic [19:49] [14:48] any reason why you waited? [19:49] [14:48] we wanted to get 5.0 beta out first [19:49] heh :) [19:49] he also said they hope to start aurora builds this week, so that's cool [19:50] excellent. i should probably try one locally tonight just to make sure it works :) [19:54] oh, aurora has been quiet today. there's nothing for me to build for the second night in a row :) [19:55] guess it's getting pretty stable! [19:55] yeah, i've switched my beta install to aurora now, until the next beta anyway [19:56] although i only really use the nightly atm === davida is now known as davidascher [20:14] hmmm, bug 796758 is concerning seeing as that user actually has the up-to-date language packs installed and they don't have the addon compatibility reporter :/ [20:14] Launchpad bug 796758 in firefox "Erro no processamento de XML: entidade não definida" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/796758 [20:24] backporting gcc is taking longer than i excepted, many missing build-deps, and it takes 9h to build :P [20:24] i'm not even sure it will help === yofel_ is now known as yofel [21:46] micahg, did you try to reproduce your ogg bug in M14? [21:47] fta: no, not yet [21:47] I can do that a bit later [21:47] i tried, it worked [21:47] at least as file:/// [21:47] both autostart and the blue? [21:48] well, i got the totem plugin [21:48] i didn't run the script though === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away [22:15] wth is http://netbook-remix.archive.canonical.com/updates/pool/public/c/chromium-webfav/ ? [22:16] fta - it's an extension which allows you to bookmark sites in the old UNE launcher [22:16] there's an equivalent for firefox too [22:16] i guess nobody uses that now though ;) [22:16] weird i never heard about it [22:17] i even used UNR/UNE at some point [22:19] !info liferea [22:29] fta: just tried on oneiric, but html5 is broke in oneiric :) [22:34] micahg, https://code.launchpad.net/~chromium-team/chromium-browser/channels still stuck :( [22:34] Linux 3.0-0-generic #1-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 9 16:32:10 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [22:35] BUGabundo, useless, just another version bump :) [22:35] ahahahah [22:35] (don't let linus hear y ) [22:36] he should have done that long ago [22:41] didn't ya hear? he wants to start competing with chrome and firefox version numbers ;) [22:43] ahahahaahaha [23:04] hmmm, i'm wondering if i should update my machine? [23:04] is anyone else using an up-to-date oneiric? [23:04] i am [23:04] how broken is it? ;) [23:04] i've not updated since last week [23:04] about the same [23:05] ah, ok. i'll just go ahead and update then [23:05] i just didn't try the last kernel [23:05] it just popped up [23:06] hmmm, looks like i've got an entire mono stack to update [23:06] that's take a few days ;) [23:07] "Need to get 887MB of archives" [23:07] so, basically, i'm downloading an entire new ISO + some more [23:07] i may as well just reinstall ;) [23:07] most problably tons of -dbg [23:07] i dropped 240 last week [23:08] you're right. nearly half of that is chromium-dbg, firefox-dbg and thunderbird-dbg ;) [23:09] chrisccoulson, http://paste.ubuntu.com/626181/ [23:09] i keep libc6-dbg for valgrind [23:09] heh, handy. thanks! [23:10] i often have tons dbgsym because i now retrace manually with apport-retrace [23:17] +of [23:20] hmmm, it seems like i really did break gxine [23:23] hm, just upgraded the kernel, dkms failed on nvidia-current [23:23] 3.0 working her [23:23] *here [23:23] with nouveau [23:24] 3.0.0.0.1 [23:25] tooo many ones [23:25] *sigh* it just says [fail], clueless [23:25] Installed: 3.0-0.1 [23:26] yep, but Setting up linux-image-generic (3.0.0.0.1) ... [23:58] chrisccoulson: it's more broke?