[04:12] hi guys. I have a sort query. I have a list of IP's I'd like to sort in sequence, but 192.168.0.100 preceeds .10 preceeds .1 [04:12] what argument can I use to put them in order? [04:15] kieppie1: try -g [04:15] or -n [04:16] did try numeric. found an eventual solution: sort -t . -k 1,1n -k 2,2n -k 3,3n -k 4,4n [04:16] thanks anyway [04:17] np === ujjain is now known as ujjain|afk === incidenc1 is now known as incidence [08:33] I'm getting lots of MCE's and reboots (primarly at night). But how to collect them? 'mcelog' doesn't seem to log anything anywhere. === airtonix_ is now known as airtonix === ujjain|afk is now known as ujjain [09:33] whats best vmware server 2 or virtualbox on ubuntu 8.04 Hardy? === cjwatson_ is now known as cjwatson [09:41] LinSkyrate: that's going to depend on your goals, I prefer virtualbox personally [09:41] greppy: oki.. just downloaded it.. i wil give it a run [09:43] greppy: how can i install virt box with dependencies? i use dpkg -i but that fails on deps [09:52] LinSkyrate: use apt-get install instead of dpkg, that will grab the dependancies. or you can try 'sudo apt-get -f install' to see if it will fix what it needs [09:53] greppy: jupp.. but i need to set the repo for hardy [09:55] why not use lucid? [09:56] LinSkyrate: why not use 10.04 aka lucid? [09:58] because im running other things that demands 8.04 [09:59] ouch :( [09:59] but what package is this in : libxcursor1 (and a lot of others that are missing? [10:02] i get this error: Avhenger av: libxcursor1 (> 1.1.2) men skal ikke installeres Avhenger av: libxrandr2 (>= 2:1.2.0) men skal ikke installeres Avhenger av: python2.5 (>= 2.5) men skal ikke installeres Anbefaler: libhal1 (>= 0.5) men skal ikke installeres Anbefaler: libpulse0 men skal ikke installeres Anbefaler: libsdl-ttf2.0-0 men skal ikke installeres Anbefaler: pdf-viewer [10:05] no idea what the errors mean ( since I only read english ) bt I think it is complaining about versions not being available [10:06] greppy: the version is ok but miss all that installed to go on [10:07] do i need ubuntu-desktop installed? [10:07] you might [10:08] if my norwegian is correct, something depends on libxcursor1, but that it cant be installed. [10:08] my box with virtualbox running on it is in another building right now, so I can't really check. [10:09] EricJ: it just says that it needs this installed but i have not done so [10:09] LinSkyrate: run LANG=C apt-get ... [10:09] LinSkyrate: so if you just try to explicitly install those dependencies? [10:10] EricJ: jupp [10:10] im installing ubuntu-desktop to see if it contains all that [10:10] Oh dear. [10:10] he he [10:10] LinSkyrate: erm - that probably won't help [10:10] LinSkyrate: which version is this? [10:11] RoyK: 8.04 Hardy [10:11] oh [10:11] could you try Lucid? [10:11] RoyK: i need that version for a stable Ulteo [10:12] what's an ulteo? [10:12] Ulteo is VDI [10:12] Virtual Desktop via web [10:13] then you're probably talking about a desktop installation, right? if so, strictly speaking, this is the wrong channel... [10:13] im going to make a simulation for some money people, and they need to see some eyecandy to put the money on the table for my projects [10:13] I wonder why they still stick with 8.04, though [10:14] it's not getting newer, and the eyecandy will be better with Lucid [10:14] they have a 3.0 version, but thats to new and buggy [10:15] can i do a command line upgrade to Lucid? [10:15] im sitting remote for this server [10:15] do-release-upgrade [10:16] RoyK: ?? [10:16] just that? [10:16] check /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades first [10:16] that should be set to Prompt=lts [10:16] and yes, just that :) [10:17] will it not get me up to 11.04 then? [10:17] it'll take you to the next LTS, meaning 10.04 Lucid [10:17] or if Prompt=normal, it'll take you to the next release, 8.10 [10:20] RoyK: will do that, but must finish ubuntu-desktop install first as i already started that [10:35] RoyK: its says No new release found? [10:35] i changed to lts [10:37] erm... [10:37] RoyK: should i put anything else there than lts? [10:37] can you doublecheck the version? lsb_release -a [10:37] no, lts is fine [10:39] RoyK: shit.. this release are in 11.04 for some reason [10:39] heh [10:39] I've seen some rather messy dependency issues in 11.04 [10:40] RoyK: can i downgrade do Lucid? [10:40] reinstall [10:40] to [10:40] æsj [10:40] jau [10:40] thats shitty its a remote server [10:41] didn't you say it was running Hardy? [10:41] it doesn't upgrade all on its own... [10:43] must have mixed the cds [10:43] because this should be 8.04 [10:43] did a plain server install yesterday [10:45] I thought you were talking about some virtual installation? [10:45] nope [10:45] thats inside [10:45] ok [10:45] its not virtual.. its a controlpanel for virtual desktops [10:47] ok [10:49] and you don't have something like a BMC/IPMI/ILO/ILOM/ALOM in the machine so you can control it remotely? [10:49] nope... :( [10:50] * RoyK likes SuperMicro's IPMI - supports installing a server from local ISO images :) [10:51] took me 20 minutes to install four Lucid servers at once (a quad thing - four mobos in 2U) [10:51] dont have that in this machine [10:52] still get the missing libs when installing virtbox 4 [10:53] RoyK: Using ext4? [10:54] yeah [10:54] why? [10:57] RoyK: previously ext4 has suffered from slow installation, due to the fsync's between every operation. [11:07] Daviey: dunno about that === Guest26577 is now known as Adri2000 [11:53] ping Daviey [11:54] lol - seems the guy working on fsck for btrfs works for oracle [11:58] RoyK: hah :) === kim0_ is now known as kim0 [12:26] New bug: #796551 in openssh (main) "package openssh-server 1:5.8p1-1ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: Unterprozess neues pre-installation-Skript gab den Fehlerwert 1 zurück" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/796551 [12:26] New bug: #796552 in mysql-5.1 (main) "package mysql-server-5.1 5.1.54-1ubuntu4 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/796552 === med_out is now known as med === med is now known as medberry === NG_ is now known as ng_ === ng_ is now known as NG_ [13:53] I apt-getted roundcube, and noticed that index.ph in /usr/share/roundcube is owned by root (which is the the indexfile /var/lib/roundcube/index.php (docroot) links to). Why isn' t this www-data? [13:53] *index.php and the same goes for .htaccess [13:54] the reason I ask this is that I get a "SoftException in Application.cpp:296: UID of script "/var/lib/roundcube/index.php" is smaller than min_uid" [13:55] which is of course true if the owner (and group) are root [13:59] foo-nix: that looks like a packaging issue [14:00] foo-nix: I don't see it on the bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/roundcube [14:00] foo-nix: you would like to fill a bug for it? :) [14:03] lynxman, sure, but I have no experience with ww-related packages [14:03] i.e. which install roundcube, squirelmail, phpmyadmin, etc [14:03] morning, and happy Monday [14:13] foo-nix: ooh I see [14:13] foo-nix: well your guess is right, it should be www-data, I'll try to reproduce the problem later and see if I have the same issue as you [14:14] lynxman, unfortunately, after chmodding I have the same problem, I will restart apache now [14:14] although I wouldn't understand why :P [14:14] foo-nix: hmm what story do the logs say? [14:15] oh, same error [14:15] SoftException in Application.cpp:296: UID of script "/var/lib/roundcube/index.php" is smaller than min_uid [14:15] foo-nix: /var/lib/roundcube... [14:15] foo-nix: then you're talking also about the index.php in /usr/share/roundcube [14:16] yeah [14:16] foo-nix: is there anything in /var/lib/roundcube? there should be right? [14:16] the index.php is linked there [14:16] foo-nix: is the link made by root? [14:17] lynxman, I think so, I don't really know how linking works with userrights [14:17] wait [14:18] http://imagebin.org/158053 [14:18] lynxman, that's a listing [14:18] foo-nix: okay but that's the one in /usr/share/roundcube [14:19] foo-nix: what's the content of /var/lib/roundcube [14:19] lynxman, wait, I just chmodded the files to www-data [14:19] initially most of them were roor:root owned [14:19] *root:root [14:20] foo-nix: if they were there must be a reason behind it... [14:20] lynxman, I think so, but then why do I get this error? [14:20] and why wouyld an index.php be owned by root? [14:21] foo-nix: must be something else related [14:21] foo-nix: I would need to dedicate some time to try to reproduce it [14:21] lynxman, I don't know much about how to configure www-packages and where ubuntu puts stuff [14:21] foo-nix: I would recommend you though, uninstall the package "apt-get purge packagename" [14:22] foo-nix: and then install it again, don't chown anything [14:22] foo-nix: copy/paste the problem into Google, see if someone else had it as well [14:22] lynxman, yes, I find it disturbing to do so, either :) [14:22] foo-nix: since I'm sure there's something else involved, never installed roundcube myself so... :) [14:22] lynxman, others also have it, but they don' t state the owners of the files and moreover none installed from portage [14:23] lynxman, thank you very much [14:23] I have guests arriving in a bit more than 30 minutes [14:23] foo-nix: no problem, let me know how the purge and reinstall goes [14:23] foo-nix: oops, hurry up then ;) [14:23] hehe [14:23] so I will be less availiable [14:23] lynxman, but if you would like to have some info, feel free to e-mail me at herbert@fmf.nl [14:24] I typically respond quite fast. [14:24] foo-nix: cool :) [14:25] indeed :) === jcastro_ is now known as jcastro [14:28] foo-nix: http://www.crazysquirrel.com/computing/debian/servers/ubuntu-mail-server.jspx [14:28] Down in the roundcube section. [14:28] ;) [14:28] Might help, sounds related. [14:31] "Sounds like a good idea but unfortunately the packaging of RoundCube (and I'm guessing a lot of other stuff) hasn't caught up with the change yet. When I installed RoundCube it with Aptitude it, of course, went in owned by root." [14:31] thanx [14:33] There should be nothing wrong with a web app being owned by root. Did I miss something? === Adri2000 is now known as Guest87619 [14:34] Oh, suphp.. or "the worst idea ever" ;) [14:34] SpamapS, suphp runs these scrips ar the file owner [14:34] SpamapS, it sounds uite secure if you ask me. [14:34] *quite [14:35] SpamapS, this allows for a website to own it' s own file [14:35] makeing sure the one site can' t fiddle or piggy-back on the other site (' s security issue) [14:35] hmm, you want to run roundcube per user? [14:35] shared hosting is a fail [14:35] why not run it per server, and be done [14:36] We have KVM to solve this problem for us now. [14:36] Are you suggesting to install a new server each time you setup a new site? Or some virtualserver configuration? That' s complete overkill [14:36] I would put shared hosting on a different box, than the email server [14:36] yes [14:36] foo-nix: its a single command. :) [14:37] SpamapS, rm -rf ~/ is also a single command [14:37] SpamapS, I like the idea of virtual machines [14:37] SpamapS, but I also like the idea of not having too much of them. [14:38] foo-nix: w/ appropriate config management you can manage thousands of them at once. [14:39] They're as easy to manage as processes now, and without all of the hacks that we built around isolating processes from eachother over the last 20 years. [14:39] SpamapS, sure, but that doesn' t make virtualhosts bad [14:39] no, it makes virtualhosts obsolete. obsolete still has value. [14:40] just like ipv6 should, some day, make nat obsolete. :) [14:40] SpamapS, anyhow, the server of my university does it the vhost way :) [14:40] I would say that suphp/suexec should have options for refusing to run as root. [14:41] I'm not going to allow php scripts to run as root from a http-request [14:41] foo-nix: we're actually working on a system for making deploying and managing a service like roundcube as easy as 'apt-get install roundcube' .. [14:41] gday [14:41] foo-nix: http://ensemble.ubuntu.com/ [14:42] this stuff is cool, although it is too bad that the first lecture on clod computing I attended was so bad === jetole_ is now known as jetole [14:42] hahaha clod computing [14:42] *cloud [14:43] I think we should call it clod. :) [14:43] I hurt my back working out a few days ago, and now typing and even sitting at a desk is agony :P [14:43] foo-nix: cloud is just the easy way to do it now. We'll be making it work w/ local vms and containers too. [14:43] foo-nix: maybe try a standing desk [14:43] cloud => let others fix it for you :) [14:44] SpamapS, thanx :) [14:45] How do you start/stop the heimdal kerberos? === Guest87619 is now known as Adri2000 [14:50] foo-nix: one could say that about server co-location too.. I mean.. its not like you're running your own MAP on the net, right? [14:51] SpamapS, what is a MAP? [14:51] sorry, I dont know :P [14:52] and disambiguation is hard with map :P [14:52] Hey... Does anyone have a windows 2003 server? :) [14:53] foo-nix: I meant MAE ;) [14:53] I could :) [14:53] patdk-wk: really? [14:53] ya, about 70 or so [14:54] patdk-wk: Are you running an ntp server? [14:54] yep [14:54] patdk-wk: fancy presenting it to me, want to test something? :) [14:55] heh? [14:55] :P I don' t know MAE either, is it some kind of bussiness word for network? [14:55] foo-nix: http://www.linktionary.com/m/mae.html [14:56] they are all joined into AD [14:56] patdk-wk: seriously, want to reproduce a bug. :) [14:57] sure, but I can't give you rdp access [14:57] SpamapS, ah, now I get it, sorry [14:57] patdk-wk: No, i just want to access your ntpd from UDP. [14:57] (as a consumer) [14:57] my ntp? or ntp on win2003? [14:57] Daviey: the montreal people should have access to win23k box [14:57] I run my ntp servers in linux [14:57] well, co-location meaning the server is on a different location then the bussines/users? [14:57] patdk-wk: wise :) [14:58] zul: good thinking [15:04] foo-nix: yes. that is the norm for pretty much all web properties that aren't google/amazon size. [15:06] there' s chrome laptop coming which operates in the cloud [15:06] Heh.. ChromeOS has its roots in Ubuntu. [15:08] SpamapS, you didnt know that? [15:08] zul: I was noting it for foo-nix [15:08] SpamapS, ok maybe im not quite awake yet [15:08] SpamapS, ok, why? [15:11] foo-nix: why what? === smoser` is now known as smoser [15:18] Daviey, do you have an updated version of http://pb.daviey.com/Cy6D/ ? or is one easy to produce ? [15:25] When I boot up 11.04 Server, I get "Screen can not display, not recommended resolution". Is there a way I can change the resolution of my server? [15:33] smoser: yes! [15:33] smoser: http://people.canonical.com/~davewalker/delta.txt (updates every 4 hours). Also now includes packages ~ubuntu-server is subscribed to and the packageset. [15:37] Daviey: every 4 hours the info gets stale ;) [15:38] Daviey: also can you blacklist some of the packages on your script [15:39] zul: wel i thought more frequent might be a waste of time. [15:39] Daviey: yeah i was pulling your leg [15:40] zul: Yes, could blacklist some.. But the fact they are in the packageset and subscribed to should mean we need to care about them [15:40] Daviey: well im thinking about cups since its more desktopy [15:41] zul: hah, and gimp is totally server centric :) [15:41] Daviey: well yes i need gimp to my network diagrams ;) [15:45] hello, how do I guarantee a certain order in sites-enabled? I'm using name based vhosts and I need one of the hosts to work as catch all [15:46] katol, use numbers as prefixes. [15:46] they are ordered in an alphanumeric order. [15:46] Daviey: oh ok, is that considered a good practice? [15:47] and just to be sure, there is not other way to define a catch all without overriding the other vhosts from the configuration itself, right? [15:48] heh? [15:48] using apache? [15:49] the catchall is defined using default [15:49] not via order [15:51] patdk-lap: yes apache, default as in _default_ ? I think that does not work for name based vhosts, only IP/port based [15:51] oops [15:51] i meant patdk-wk [15:52] ah it doesn't, hmm [15:59] oh well, I'll just use the number prefixes [15:59] thank you Daviey and patdk-wk ;) [16:06] smoser: ping [16:06] here [16:07] smoser: can i trade patch pilot days with you [16:08] patch pilot days and cash [16:08] what is your day? [16:08] tomorrow :( [16:08] zul, you don't need to 'swap', just change to a day that suites. [16:09] Daviey: k [16:09] why did Daviey feel he needed to stop zul from buying my patch pilot day [16:09] :-( [16:12] smoser, lol [16:14] lol [16:28] smoser: I see you've just retired the day from ebay... [16:36] Daviey: did you chair last weeks server meet? [16:36] jamespage, i did indeed. [16:36] marvellous - that means its me in the seat for tommorow.... [16:36] jamespage, splendid [16:36] however sprinting so will try to swap with RoAkSoAx: how about it? [16:38] RoAkSoAx, ? [16:39] Daviey: hmm - did I miss the email that said we don't need to writing up meeting minutes anymore? [16:40] * Daviey also offers out chairing to anyone else.. it is open to community contributors aswell :) [16:40] jamespage, no.. [16:40] jamespage, zul is doing week before last at the moment. Then i'll do last weeks. [16:40] * jamespage pokes Daviey with a stick some more [16:40] :-) [16:41] jamespage, sarcasm doesn't become you :) [16:41] Daviey: ??? [16:41] RoAkSoAx, jamespage asked if you could take his chair spot tomorrow. [16:41] Daviey: yeah just read [16:41] jamespage: sure [16:41] Daviey: must be all those java library forks I've been reviewing today :-) [16:41] jamespage, you signed up for it :P [16:41] RoAkSoAx: excellent - thankyou [16:42] yeah - its just been a bit grinding today ;-) [16:42] jamespage: ;) [16:43] jamespage: can you point me in the direction of documentation to write/create/try out automated tests? [16:43] SpamapS: yeah sure - lemme just dig something out [16:44] where do you want todo it? in the cloud or in kvm images? [16:44] kvm, its a lot of boot testing.. [16:46] Right - so I'd recommend you branch lp:ubuntu-server-iso-testing [16:46] thats the framework that currently tests our ISO images across server, desktop and alternate [16:46] cool [16:47] README? man page? [16:47] ok [16:48] "hello" [16:49] 10 PRINT "HELLO #UBUNTU+SERVERÆ [16:50] s/.$/\"/ [16:50] SpamapS: just reminding myself [16:51] :D [16:53] SpamapS: docs/README does give you a bit of insight but its more geared towards running the existing tests [16:53] * jamespage takes an action to add some developer documentation for writing test-cases [16:55] * jamespage also takes an action to make the templates directory configurable from the command line [16:55] good job I'm at the QA automation sprint for the next two days - might actually find time [16:58] jamespage: I'll give it a whack and see what I come up with. :) [16:58] SpamapS: ack - the run-test.py script and the templates directory should be most interesting [17:00] * jamespage thinks that it may need a little refactoring to support SpamapS requirements [17:00] jamespage: the only requirement I'll have is that I can reboot 2 or 3 times [17:01] SpamapS: a limitation of the current framework [17:03] I think you will need to specialise the templates/run_test - this is the script that gets injected into the vm [17:03] it only deals with boot -> run tests -> shutdown at the moment [17:08] jamespage: well technically I'm not shutting down until after a few reboots. :) [17:11] SpamapS: yeah - so that should deal with the 'testing complete' monitoring (which is when the vm shuts itself down) [17:11] you will need to adapt the way the test's are executed to deal with reboots [17:15] Hey folks, I now have: http://ubuntu.esotericsystems.at/ with my rebuilds of OpenLDAP (with OpenSSL support) -- how do I make this a full blown repo? with pool/dist/blah directories? [17:16] kirkland: ping? [17:17] is there a way to see a list of changelog entries with your name in it? [17:17] (ie, for developer application) [17:18] smoser: yes [17:18] smoser: lp:~andreserl/+junk/search_uploads --> originally created by Daviey [17:19] hm.. [17:19] i dont like using things that Daviey wrote [17:19] smoser: lol... i tried to improve it though xD [17:25] Hi... I've setup ntop, and finally got it working with my connection, but now all my attempts to access my websites fails... lewiscawte.info for exampl [17:26] Does this look sane to people: http://people.canonical.com/~chucks/libxen-libvirt.patch [17:31] Anyone have any idea why this is happening [17:35] smoser: i'm not proud of that... and it's damm slow. [17:36] Sadly, the LP api doesn't extend to doing what you want. [17:37] smoser: if you want to fix, LP #610491 - that would fix your requirement :) [17:37] Launchpad bug 610491 in launchpad "[API] Please expose getPublishedSources(package_creator,package_signer)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/610491 [17:37] (Although doesn't extend to [YUR NAME] entries in changelog.) [17:38] smoser: Talking of which, what is a CoC friendly way of nack'ing and applciation? [17:38] *an === lullabud is now known as warzauwynn [17:48] Daviey: "sod off" :) [17:54] * RoAkSoAx goes to lunch === medberry is now known as med_out [19:24] Hi :) [19:25] Ah, okay my server appears to have crashed several tiems now, I've left it running on the console mode and I now have a big page of text but what Im curious is how to I. use this information [19:25] It looks like a kernel stack-trace? I think.. [19:25] Oh and Caps and Scroll-lock are blinking on the keyboard [19:26] Incase thats somehow relevent [19:26] slyboots, take a picture of it and submit a bug [19:26] well, I sort of need to get the system backup now.. and my boss is going to want to know what caused the crash [19:27] So, Is there any sort of general advice that would be helpful in this situation in prehaps preventing it gain rather than "Yea it just crashed" [19:31] well, unless you know how to read that info, there is nothing we can really do to help you [19:31] New bug: #796750 in apache2 (main) "apache2 startup fails with missing log directory" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/796750 [19:31] but if it's kernel stuff, you have a very limited set of issues [19:32] I .. *think* its a kernel issue [19:32] hardware failing, kernel driver failing, a kern param ran out of stack/mem/... [19:32] Its taking down the entire system so.. [19:32] well, I dunno how you want someone over irc to tell you what it is [19:32] :P [19:33] this is when serial console with serial logger is nice [19:57] WinstonSmith: last [19:57] oops, sorry [19:58] I just spent a little time googling and searching apt but did not find the answer I was looking for.. how does one add the standard man pages to ubuntu-server [20:00] CrazyGir: sudo apt-get install man-db [20:01] which should be on the default install.. but still. [20:05] hrm [20:05] thank you :) [20:06] also depends on what you mean by "standard man pages" [20:08] e.g. if you need the manpages for the POSIX standard, there is 'manpages-posix' (I find those occasionally useful) [20:09] Hm.. [20:09] Is there a way to test if a serial console is waiting [20:09] Uh.. working even x.x [20:10] I added grub_terminal=serial to the defaults file, ran grub install.. but Im not getting anything on the terminal [20:10] hello i was now i need to setup virtual host i use webmin but forgot how to setup so it work 100% i have setup 2 virtual host now, but one answer for all call's [20:11] JanC: by standard, I mean manpages should be on any system you go to [20:11] those manpages ;) [20:11] I can barely wrap my head around ubuntu separating them into a package [20:11] CrazyGir: embeded systems often remove all manpages ;) [20:12] and AFAIK Ubuntu doesn't separate all manpages in one package? [20:12] sure, and embedded systems often build from scratch [20:12] and I don't know one/more packages [20:12] I'm just a BSD guy and looking at this like wtf [20:13] 'man-db' contains teh man command & infrastructure [20:13] not the manpages [20:13] manpages should be in their respective packages [20:13] how do you mean respective packages? [20:14] the manpage for bash is in the bash package, etc.? [20:14] like if I am lookingfor into on the syntax for net interfaces.. [20:14] sure, but the core system? [20:14] ah, programming manpages? [20:15] or about the kernel? [20:15] maybe you want 'manpages-dev' [20:15] ..only in ubuntu [20:15] and/or 'glibc-doc' [20:15] >< [20:16] is there a package that will bring it all down? [20:16] :P [20:16] I think the BSD people are more "anal" about manpages ;) [20:16] in what sense? [20:17] I'm a BSD guy and never had an issue with manpages in Open/Free [20:17] e.g. I remember a BSD sysadmin patching the "hier" manpage to reflect the local machine ;) [20:17] they're there. period. [20:17] * CrazyGir shrug dunno about that.. [20:17] or maybe that was just him ;) [20:17] yea, probably :) [20:18]