| akk | Huh, to renew a vehicle registration online, you have to have the renewal notice. If they didn't sent a renewal notice, you can find out how much it is online but you can't pay it. | 02:44 |
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| nhaines | akk: this is true. | 02:45 |
| nhaines | akk: you can also go to your local Auto Club office and renew it faster than at the DMV, if you are an Auto Club member. | 02:46 |
| akk | I was wondering that! But I can't find anything on the AAA site saying whether they can renew if I don't have the notice. | 02:46 |
| akk | Or whether they renew motorcycles, though I might hope so since it's insured through them. | 02:46 |
| akk | Guess I'll call them tomorrow. | 02:46 |
| nhaines | akk: yeah, I think I've always been able to find my notice. I can't imagine registration services are different based on vehicle type though. | 02:50 |
| sn9 | if they didn't send a notice, there is nothing to renew | 03:00 |
| akk | ha, I wish | 03:00 |
| sn9 | ? | 03:02 |
| rww | jyo_, pleia2: Can one of you check that the mails I sent you with gpg signatures actually work? It's been a while since I did this :) | 03:59 |
| jyo_ | rww: Worked for me. Thanks again. | 04:48 |
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| jyo | rww: I presume it is paranoid/courteous to encrypt the signature as well, correct? | 04:49 |
| === BrightAmbition is now known as BirthdayGirl | ||
| BirthdayGirl | hi | 14:27 |
| iheartubuntu | Happy Birthday to BirthdayGirl | 17:01 |
| iheartubuntu | looking for some input... i now have access to any size classroom at CSULA for anything ubuntu or linux related. Any suggestions as to what I can do? A big Ubuntu Hour? A LUG? | 17:03 |
| BirthdayGirl | thx | 17:05 |
| BirthdayGirl | :) | 17:05 |
| BirthdayGirl | sorry i got sidetracked | 17:05 |
| BirthdayGirl | lol | 17:05 |
| pleia2 | iheartubuntu: how long do you have access to it for? maybe some kind of intro to ubuntu class or something? (I seem to recall you said there is already a lug in your area) | 17:06 |
| iheartubuntu | there is a LUG meeting up in Pasadena every month which is pretty good... Brings anywhere from 20-30 people every month. CSULA is probably 5-8 miles south of that? | 17:09 |
| iheartubuntu | An Ubuntu intro sounds like fun | 17:09 |
| iheartubuntu | I pretty much have access to a room at time | 17:11 |
| iheartubuntu | I'll have to ask for how long | 17:12 |
| iheartubuntu | I like Ubuntu Hours but theres no much hands on stuff going on for us at our Pasadena UH | 17:12 |
| iheartubuntu | Would be nice to have something similar, but much more hands on. So people can play around with the OS, ask questions, etc | 17:13 |
| pleia2 | well, Ubuntu Hours are better in public places because then random people can drop by and ask you things | 17:14 |
| iheartubuntu | so far the only people that have asked us have been people who have heard of Ubuntu | 17:15 |
| pleia2 | so I think a "what is this ubuntu thing anyway?" with hands on demos and stuff is better for a classroom session :) | 17:15 |
| iheartubuntu | yah | 17:15 |
| iheartubuntu | and maybe with some flyers around campus we can hook some people who have never even heard of Ubuntu | 17:15 |
| iheartubuntu | 5 years ago everyone i talked to had never heard of it.... now thats definitely changing | 17:16 |
| * pleia2 nods | 17:16 | |
| pleia2 | we've had people sitting near us in the coffee shop say things like "I've heard about it but I don't really understand what it is" | 17:17 |
| pleia2 | so we get to talk to them, it's cool :) | 17:17 |
| iheartubuntu | we had a guy, i tell you, was straight from jules verne era. as if he dropped in on us or something and was bubbling with enthusiasm when we showed him Ubuntu | 17:18 |
| pleia2 | iheartubuntu: care to blog about the awesome ubuntu earrings, $6 of which goes to partimus? :) http://princessleia.com/journal/?p=4515 | 17:18 |
| iheartubuntu | maybe he will bring the disc back to his time era | 17:19 |
| iheartubuntu | yah sure! | 17:19 |
| akk | Those earrings look really nice. | 17:20 |
| iheartubuntu | are those laser cut? | 17:20 |
| pleia2 | Boutique Academia had them made, so presumably it was with an outfit experienced with such things, not sure what they do to make them | 17:22 |
| pleia2 | not a do-it-yourself kinda thing | 17:22 |
| iheartubuntu | pleia2 - so maybe a 2 or 3 hour Ubuntu get together? Should I have possibly a 15 minute intro about Ubuntu and then a hands on thing? | 17:34 |
| iheartubuntu | did anyone see Super 8 over the weekend? Looks good | 17:35 |
| pleia2 | iheartubuntu: yeah that sounds fun :) | 17:35 |
| iheartubuntu | maybe some USB sticks with Ubuntu on them and a bunch of CDs | 17:36 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 17:36 |
| akk | A hands-on event does sound like a lot of fun. | 17:36 |
| iheartubuntu | a couple weeks back I was sitting in on a live rehearsal of several different bands. some good stuff, some bad stuff :) i was asking them how they are making their music these days | 17:38 |
| iheartubuntu | they all said protools | 17:38 |
| iheartubuntu | i asked them was it expensive? | 17:38 |
| iheartubuntu | well we know how they obtained the software | 17:38 |
| iheartubuntu | i told them about ubuntu and they could use Ardour which is pretty close to protools | 17:39 |
| iheartubuntu | now everyone is emailing me | 17:39 |
| iheartubuntu | i helped one guy via chat install Ubuntu using Wubi and I was surprised Wubi does not offer which version of Ubuntu to install. My experience I remember Wubi had a drop down menu asking which version | 17:40 |
| iheartubuntu | this new Wubi just installs the latest version | 17:40 |
| iheartubuntu | and im not sure which it installed either... 32 or 64 bit | 17:41 |
| pleia2 | I imagine investing in the professional tools is one of the biggest investments an amateur musician has | 17:41 |
| iheartubuntu | ProTools is a software program | 17:41 |
| pleia2 | oh :) | 17:41 |
| iheartubuntu | expensive one | 17:41 |
| iheartubuntu | mostly its pirated | 17:42 |
| iheartubuntu | I think it ranges for $1000 on up | 17:42 |
| iheartubuntu | up to $10k for more features | 17:42 |
| pleia2 | wow | 17:42 |
| iheartubuntu | I know Ardour is a pretty good replacement for it rom what Ive seen | 17:42 |
| iheartubuntu | from | 17:42 |
| iheartubuntu | im sure it cant handle the 10k capabilities | 17:43 |
| iheartubuntu | but still. free is free | 17:43 |
| iheartubuntu | http://ardour.org/ | 17:43 |
| pleia2 | and even if it just measures up to the lower end version that's something :) | 17:43 |
| iheartubuntu | pleia2 do you know of any ubuntu intro slideshows available? i was just checking spreadubuntu and did not see anything | 18:00 |
| pleia2 | it's one of the things ubuntu-learning wanted to develop but we don't have the volunteers to do right now :( so no, I don't know of any off-hand right now | 18:01 |
| pleia2 | if you want to write some I'd be happy to proof them though (and adding them to spreadubuntu would be great) | 18:02 |
| yantrashilpi | iheartubuntu, pleia2 : isn't there an ubuntu intro book? wouldn't that work? | 18:05 |
| iheartubuntu | ok - i'll havw to whip somwething up | 18:06 |
| iheartubuntu | and put it on spreadubuntu | 18:06 |
| iheartubuntu | is there an intro book? | 18:06 |
| iheartubuntu | i think i'll first head to the ubuntu site and use some of the ubuntu tour points | 18:07 |
| iheartubuntu | i would need to highlight the key points people are most interested in | 18:07 |
| pleia2 | most of the books focus on gnome2, there may be a new one out that has unity stuff but I haven't kept an eye out | 18:08 |
| nhaines | I didn't get very far in my attempt to write a Unity book. | 18:22 |
| nhaines | Mostly lack of time. :( | 18:22 |
| pleia2 | the official natty docs were updated and have unity screenshots, so it is probably worth pulling from them some | 18:33 |
| pleia2 | https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/index.html | 18:33 |
| pleia2 | (and serious kudos to the docs team for pulling this off) | 18:34 |
| pleia2 | just be care to note the license (cc-by-sa) to give credit appropriately :) | 18:38 |
| nhaines | pleia2: the docs team worked like crazy the last two weeks. It was pretty incredible. | 19:05 |
| pleia2 | yeah, they did | 19:07 |
| nhaines | I actually was careful not to read it whenever possible because of the book project. But the screen shots were pretty. :) | 19:08 |
| nhaines | And the GNOME 3 help is pretty nice, too. | 19:09 |
| yantrashilpi | nhaines, where can I find these docs? are they released? | 19:14 |
| pleia2 | they are the default docs that ship with 11.04, the link I gave above is the web version | 19:17 |
| nhaines | pleia2: thanks, I didn't know about the Web version. I see it's just as nice as the desktop version. :) | 19:39 |
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| pleia2 | nhaines: it's now been a week and task is going strong, I think it's finally a solution I'll stick to :) | 21:44 |
| * pleia2 typically would go back to scraps of paper after a couple days | 21:44 | |
| nhaines | pleia2: yay! :) | 21:44 |
| nhaines | Yeah, it's just Unixy enough that I find it charming. | 21:45 |
| pleia2 | the biggest problem with my scraps of paper method was that it had no history, the task reports are nice | 21:49 |
| iheartubuntu | scraps? | 21:50 |
| iheartubuntu | i finally converted all of my scraps to tomboy | 21:50 |
| iheartubuntu | :) | 21:50 |
| nhaines | pleia2: yeah, plus you have to worry about lost clusters. ;) | 21:50 |
| iheartubuntu | god i feel efficient | 21:50 |
| pleia2 | I use 3 computers regularly, one of which is my chomebook, tomboy wasn't a good solution for me | 21:51 |
| pleia2 | needed something I could access from anywhere | 21:51 |
| iheartubuntu | so what do u use instead | 21:51 |
| nhaines | pleia2: ssh is a good solution for everything. :) | 21:51 |
| nhaines | iheartubuntu: she uses taskwarrior | 21:52 |
| pleia2 | the package in ubuntu is "task" | 21:52 |
| pleia2 | nhaines recommended it :) | 21:52 |
| nhaines | pleia2: did you see the dependancy feature? :) | 21:52 |
| iheartubuntu | its available in chrome too? | 21:52 |
| pleia2 | http://taskwarrior.org | 21:52 |
| iheartubuntu | ohh command line | 21:52 |
| pleia2 | iheartubuntu: chromeos has an ssh terminal, I run it on my server with IRC and email and ssh to it | 21:52 |
| pleia2 | and it's simple for basic use, but highly extendable when you want to get complicated, just like any good ole unixy app should be :) | 21:53 |
| iheartubuntu | are there any SSH classes i cant take? :) i feel so alone | 21:57 |
| pleia2 | this has the basics: http://princessleia.com/sshscreen.php | 21:58 |
| pleia2 | (I wrote this for less techie friends on IRC who used to ask how I can stay on IRC all the time) | 21:59 |
| nhaines | pleia2: that's cute. :) | 22:00 |
| * iheartubuntu r2d2 *chuckles* | 22:00 | |
| pleia2 | iheartubuntu: these days all the machines on my network are named after astromech droids :) | 22:00 |
| pleia2 | (my servers are star wars planets) | 22:01 |
| nhaines | My computers are named after biomes and my remote servers are supercontintents. | 22:01 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 22:02 |
| nhaines | Which is why you saw vaalbara.nhaines.com a lot until I got my irssi script just the way I liked it. | 22:02 |
| pleia2 | yeah, we had a netsplit the other day which exposed coruscant.princessleia.com (which I like! I just keep the member cloak so I can +o in channels where only ubuntu member cloaks folks can, sad sad) | 22:04 |
| nhaines | Haha, yeah, I really like vaalbara.nhaines.com. :) | 22:05 |
| broder | there's also irccloud.com | 22:06 |
| broder | (which i have invites for, if anybody wants them) | 22:06 |
| nhaines | Ooh, that's kinda cool. | 22:07 |
| nhaines | SSH looks more like working though, so... :) | 22:07 |
| nhaines | pleia2: speaking of GNU screen, I'm in love with Byobu! | 22:07 |
| pleia2 | nhaines: really? I found it horribly noisy | 22:07 |
| rww | same reason I have my cloak ;( | 22:08 |
| rww | reminds me, I need to poke the IRC cabal about irccloud.com | 22:08 |
| pleia2 | I think dustin was going to add a "turn off all noise" option, not sure if he has | 22:08 |
| jyo | rww: Hey, so everything worked out, key-signing-wise. | 22:09 |
| rww | jyo: looks that way, yes :) | 22:09 |
| nhaines | pleia2: yup! you can turn off a lot of the status indicators and I don't use it locally unless I'm going to be signing in and out but for remote access it's really handy. | 22:10 |
| rww | well, between us. some people haven't done their post-keysigning stuff yet. | 22:10 |
| rww | broder: can I get one, please? | 22:10 |
| pleia2 | rww: oops, did I not send you your key? | 22:11 |
| * pleia2 frowns at sent box | 22:11 | |
| rww | pleia2: nope ;P | 22:11 |
| pleia2 | oops, sec | 22:11 |
| * rww figures an irccloud might be useful if we decide to do something complicated to exempt irccloud users | 22:11 | |
| broder | rww: sure, just PM me your e-mail | 22:11 |
| rww | broder: rww at ubuntu.com | 22:11 |
| broder | sent | 22:11 |
| rww | thanks | 22:12 |
| nhaines | rww: that's handy. | 22:12 |
| jyo | Okay, so for devin, I need to sign that four word blurb he gave me? | 22:12 |
| rww | jyo: no idea. I just did my usual sign-and-encrypt-and-attach on the key signatures and asked him to let me know what to do with the phrase if he wanted me to use it. | 22:12 |
| rww | though I also said something along the lines of "screw this, you admin devin.com, there's no point in me sending individual emails to each UID on there", so I am perhaps not a good role model | 22:13 |
| nhaines | web of trust! | 22:14 |
| * nhaines sighs. | 22:15 | |
| nhaines | Font rendering in Windows XP makes me a sad panda. | 22:16 |
| pleia2 | for devin I just did --clear-sign on a text file I created with his phrase | 22:20 |
| jyo | rww: Was --output foo.asc working for you when exporting the signature? For some reason, didn't work for me and pleia2 | 22:20 |
| rww | jyo: you need to put --output before --export | 22:21 |
| pleia2 | jyo: no, I just ended up piping it with > | 22:21 |
| pleia2 | rww: aha! | 22:21 |
| * pleia2 goes to update docs (I swear it used to work the other way) | 22:21 | |
| nhaines | Pipes are amazing things. | 22:21 |
| rww | probably did, I've noticed myself tripping over gpg order a few times recently and don't remember it being a problem in the past | 22:21 |
| rww | s/order/options order/ | 22:22 |
| jyo | pleia2: oh the philly guide assumes the signature files aren't encrypted? | 22:22 |
| iheartubuntu | its 3+ months since i last ordered from the Ubuntu software center. Anyone interested in ordering anything? | 22:22 |
| iheartubuntu | I'll post to the mailing list in the next day or so | 22:22 |
| nhaines | iheartubuntu: I trust you mean the Canonical Store? | 22:24 |
| iheartubuntu | ohhh yah | 22:24 |
| iheartubuntu | duh | 22:24 |
| nhaines | That is a really handsome laptop sleeve they have there which I would never use. | 22:24 |
| iheartubuntu | i was in the software center :) | 22:25 |
| iheartubuntu | good thing i wasnt in the terminal | 22:25 |
| nhaines | heh | 22:25 |
| iheartubuntu | at least you van order from the software center | 22:25 |
| iheartubuntu | *can | 22:25 |
| nhaines | I ordered Vendetta Online. | 22:26 |
| nhaines | I'd order Uplink but I'm pretty sure I can find my CD copy if I look hard enough. | 22:26 |
| iheartubuntu | pleia2 are there any more 10.10 discs available from the CA team? | 22:28 |
| iheartubuntu | I have about 30 left from ordering from the store last time. official discs are hot items :) | 22:28 |
| rww | people not keen on Unity or something? | 22:29 |
| iheartubuntu | i dont have any unity discs, just 1010 | 22:29 |
| iheartubuntu | but everyone from the cal tech LUG all pretty much... ummm... are not fans of unity | 22:29 |
| pleia2 | iheartubuntu: no, we got rid of the last 10.10 ones at scale back in february | 22:29 |
| pleia2 | and the burned ones I brought home are gone too | 22:29 |
| iheartubuntu | ok | 22:30 |
| pleia2 | (were given to the local hackerspace and some folks who needed them in san jose) | 22:30 |
| iheartubuntu | when i get this thing set up at CSULA i was wondering if you could spot me 10 nattys or something | 22:30 |
| iheartubuntu | i noticed most lug users there were ubuntu users (one guy had chrome opened up with my chrome app on his dash :) ) but there was talk of people switching distros over natty | 22:31 |
| iheartubuntu | im fine with natty once kinks get worked out | 22:31 |
| pleia2 | iheartubuntu: can you check with DarkwingDuck? I sent him a big package and he said he'd share with LA | 22:32 |
| pleia2 | I can certainly send more down, but I sent down a big batch so I wouldn't need to make lots of shipments :) | 22:33 |
| iheartubuntu | k | 22:33 |
| iheartubuntu | dear darkwingduck | 22:33 |
| iheartubuntu | i'll burn some discs as backup | 22:34 |
| pleia2 | just let me know if he can't spare them, we do have more | 22:34 |
| iheartubuntu | k | 22:36 |
| DarkwingDuck | Yes? I can spare. | 22:38 |
| nhaines | Now someone just has to fuel up and start driving. | 22:39 |
| pleia2 | what, LA and SD aren't 20 minutes apart? :) | 22:40 |
| pleia2 | oh, 2 hours! | 22:40 |
| nhaines | pleia2: 3-4 with traffic! | 22:41 |
| pleia2 | that's unpleasant | 22:41 |
| nhaines | Indeed. :) | 22:41 |
| rww | pleia2: it's socal, of course it's unpleasant | 22:41 |
| pleia2 | zing | 22:41 |
| pleia2 | we're thinking of going to monterey for the 4th of july is that midcal? | 22:42 |
| iheartubuntu | you could get there quicker in a hot air ballon | 22:42 |
| iheartubuntu | yah | 22:42 |
| iheartubuntu | im thinking of lake tahoe... supposed to have biggest and longest fireworks show west of the mississippi | 22:42 |
| nhaines | pleia2: that's still northern California. | 22:44 |
| pleia2 | nhaines: ah, ok | 22:44 |
| jyo | Driving around Lake Tahoe sounds fun until you actually do it. | 22:44 |
| nhaines | And even though we never talk about it (because there's nothing to say), between SoCal and NorCal is "central California". ;) | 22:45 |
| pleia2 | I suspect the 4th is a big holiday there too | 22:45 |
| pleia2 | lol | 22:45 |
| pleia2 | we drove to vegas last 4th of july, it was very busy, and hot (and driving there is for crazy people) | 22:45 |
| pleia2 | and our car was all "why are you driving me in a desert in july :(" | 22:45 |
| rww | "Central California" is the mind-numbingly boring part of the drive down I-5. NorCal is anything north of that, SoCal is anything south of that. Problem solved! | 22:46 |
| pleia2 | there are lots of signs telling me that central california is a congress-created dust bowl | 22:47 |
| pleia2 | driving down I-5 | 22:47 |
| * pleia2 didn't realize that water rights were still a political thing here until moving out here | 22:47 | |
| jyo | Also fun: Smelling cows before you see them. | 22:47 |
| pleia2 | yeah, I lived in eastern pennsylvania so the cow thing is not new | 22:48 |
| nhaines | Last time I drove up there with the kids we passed a huge dust devil and they pointed out the window and said "look! a vortex!" | 22:48 |
| jyo | pleia2: Sacramento delta, basically | 22:48 |
| pleia2 | vortex++ | 22:49 |
| nhaines | pleia2: they recognized it from the vortex created by bathwater running down the drain. :) | 22:49 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 22:49 |
| pleia2 | it was also interesting seeing all the oil wells near bakersfield | 22:50 |
| jyo | Bart vs. Australia. Decent Episode. | 22:50 |
| pleia2 | so I actually don't regret doing the drive, once | 22:50 |
| iheartubuntu | cow tipping? | 22:51 |
| iheartubuntu | pleia2 - i dont know but when i grew up the entire central valley was lush green | 22:51 |
| iheartubuntu | i like the 101 drive better than 5 | 22:52 |
| sn9 | 5 is less stress | 22:58 |
| sn9 | and 101 has a speed trap with a limit of something like 25 near king city | 22:58 |
| rww | broder: irccloud users should now be able to talk in #ubuntu | 23:25 |
| broder | rww: nooo! but my excuse for never going in there...! | 23:26 |
| broder | :-P | 23:26 |
| rww | hehe :) | 23:26 |
| pleia2 | haha | 23:26 |
| sn9 | isn't irccloud a paid service? | 23:26 |
| broder | not yet | 23:27 |
| broder | but yes, once it goes out of beta | 23:27 |
| broder | (s/once/if/) | 23:27 |
| sn9 | i don't see the point of it | 23:28 |
| broder | two things: (a) it's a web-based irc service so i can use it from any machine with a web browser | 23:28 |
| sn9 | a la mibbit | 23:28 |
| broder | (b) it leaves me logged in when i don't have the window open | 23:28 |
| rww | mibbit is banned from freenode | 23:28 |
| sn9 | rww: i know | 23:29 |
| sn9 | hidemyass is banned too, i think | 23:29 |
| nhaines | sn9: it's web-based screen+irssi for people who don't want the complexity or the power. :) | 23:35 |
| sn9 | oh. | 23:36 |
| iheartubuntu | so broder is on irccloud | 23:46 |
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