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mutantturkeyo/01:07
mutantturkeylong time no I -R- See01:07
mutantturkeyjedijf: any opinion on system76?01:09
rmg51Teddy has one of their laptops01:34
mutantturkeyany idea if it is well suited?01:39
mutantturkeyI mean they look nice enough, I am not sold on the stats though,01:40
mutantturkey699 for a shitty i3 is just not worth it.01:40
* mutantturkey grabs the swear-jar01:40
jedijfmutantturkey: it depends on circumstance, but i do believe that you can get more with mainstream deals and installing yourself01:46
rmg51then you don't want to here the stats on Teddy's :-D01:46
mutantturkeyjedijf: hmmm, I have 800+ dollars. any suggestions?01:46
mutantturkeyalso, o/ havent been around in forever. working 2 jobs and going to school01:47
rmg51save save save01:47
mutantturkeyrmg51: I have saved, I need a laptop for work01:47
jedijfmutantturkey: np, work and school is good. my theory is always get the most for the buck...i have no brand preferences01:47
rmg51you may want to look  at zareason as well01:48
mutantturkeyjedijf: also, I don't want to pay 100+ EXTRA for windows I wont use..01:48
mutantturkeyalso, the system 76 lappys look very "mac" ish, meaning, simple, and cleanly designed01:48
mutantturkeyI am sick of flashy crappy laptops made from cheap materials, I want a damn nice case.01:49
waltman<cough>macbook</macbook>01:49
mikedep334it's hard to compare models, but dealigg.com covers all the latest laptop deals01:49
waltmanmeh01:49
jedijfmutantturkey: you may be a lenova/thinkpad/ideapad person01:49
mikedep334http://www.dealigg.com/cat-best-price-ComputersLaptop01:49
PennBotTitle: Best Computer - Laptop Deals, Coupon Codes Discount, Rebates at Dell Best Buy, Newegg and More! (at www.dealigg.com)01:49
mutantturkeyjedijf: I have gotten alot of reccomendations for the stinkpads01:50
mikedep334just keep in mind that ubuntu compatibility is hard to find for the average computer01:50
jedijfmutantturkey: nad what waltman said01:50
mikedep334*is hard to find out01:50
mikedep334do know 2 things01:50
mutantturkeymikedep334: I don't use ubuntu :p01:50
mutantturkeybut anyway, here is my rule: stick with intel internals, and you'll be fine.01:51
mikedep3341, core i3, i5 & i7 CPU models with 4 digits, like 2310, 2410, 2630QM are all the latest series of intel chips01:51
mikedep334with much better graphics for one thing01:51
mikedep334the older models are like 650, 480M, etc01:52
mutantturkeymikedep334: yeah, that's what I am going for01:52
mikedep334also01:52
mutantturkeyprobably an i5 or some such.01:52
mikedep334AMD's fusion process are coming out anyday now01:52
mikedep334but if you do go with a the very latest models, linux compatibility may not be as good01:52
mikedep334mutantturkey, do you use windows?01:52
mutantturkeymikedep334: arch linux01:57
mutantturkeymikedep334: yeah, but it will still be good.01:57
mutantturkeyI have an atom330 right now...01:57
mutantturkeyanything is better01:57
mikedep334one thing though02:00
mikedep334if your distro is like Ubuntu and includes proprietary firmware modules02:00
mikedep334intel wi-fi is well supported02:00
mikedep334Intel graphics also works the best under linux, but you will need a new Xorg, mesa, kernel, etc for the new intel core i3/i5/i7 #### series graphics (the "Sandy Bridge" platform/CPU's)02:01
mutantturkeywhat do you mean a new Xorg?02:02
mikedep334I'm pretty sure Ubuntu users have to use Ubuntu 11.04 for that, or install messy PPA's on 10.1002:02
mutantturkeyarchlinux is rolling release :) we literally use anything upstream.02:02
mikedep334mutantturkey, ahh, right!02:02
mutantturkeythe second upstream releases we pull it.02:02
mutantturkeyso basically that means we don't have to deal with bugs02:02
mikedep334mutantturkey, without applying any patches?02:02
mutantturkeybecause It's all upstreams fault :)02:02
mutantturkeywe try to not.02:02
mutantturkeythe less patches the better, mostly we are ok without thme02:02
mikedep334cool02:02
mutantturkeyanything old we drop, so no patches02:02
mutantturkeywe already dropped gnome 2.x02:03
mikedep334http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=fedora_15_snb&num=102:03
PennBotTitle: [Phoronix] Intel Sandy Bridge On Fedora 15 Is Decent (at www.phoronix.com)02:03
mutantturkeyI don't know much with fedor02:03
mutantturkeywhat is sandy bridge exactly though02:03
mikedep334I'm just linking to an article about sandy bridge02:03
mikedep334the latest one02:03
mikedep334http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=intel_snbsds_compare&num=102:04
PennBotTitle: [Phoronix] Intel SNB Linux Driver Can Out Run Windows Driver (at www.phoronix.com)02:04
mutantturkeyagain, we can outdoo any regular distro02:04
mutantturkeybecause whever anything happens upstream we have minimal lag time02:05
mikedep334mutantturkey, enjoy doing that :)02:05
mutantturkeyI will admit, the lack of package signing is a bit urksome,02:05
mutantturkeybut other than that it is good.02:05
mikedep334I actually do want to try either gentoo or arch sometime soon02:05
mutantturkeyI am really wanting to try out the latest ubu though, I hear it's cleaned up alot02:05
mikedep334mostly for the rolling release system02:05
mutantturkeymikedep334: i suggest arch, great community.02:05
mikedep334mutantturkey, yeah02:06
mutantturkeymikedep334: again though, for servers and stuff, I still use debian or ubuntu02:06
mikedep334but I want to compile stuff on my quad-core core i502:06
mikedep334mutantturkey, right, rolling release isn't as good for servers02:06
mutantturkeythough I swear it is... because we get all the latest security fixes :)02:06
jedijfdebian is the server best....old and tested....02:07
mikedep334yeah02:07
jedijfSuy breakage is too risky02:07
mutantturkeyjedijf: i hear they are going rolling release02:08
jedijfseeing is believing02:08
mutantturkeyright.02:08
mutantturkeyanyway hmmmm what to pick for a laptop!02:08
jedijflenova....you don't neeed all the flash and hoopla,02:09
mikedep334mutantturkey, what size/weight were you thinking of?02:09
mutantturkeymikedep334: no idea02:09
mutantturkey13.3 inch probably02:09
mutantturkeymax battery02:09
mutantturkeydoesn't matter.02:09
mikedep334ahh02:09
mutantturkeyjedijf: i also want it to hold up well, do they?02:09
mikedep334I think there's a good toshiba like that02:09
mutantturkey13-15 inch02:09
mikedep334at best buy & newegg02:09
jedijfmutantturkey: they are tough02:10
jedijfmutantturkey: i use old thinkpads in my van ....winter/summer on the road..bumps..potholes02:10
mutantturkeymikedep334: newegg :)02:10
mutantturkeyjedijf: right on02:10
mikedep334http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Toshiba+-+Portege+Laptop+/+Intel%26%23174%3B+Core%26%23153%3B+i3+Processor+/+13.3%22+Display+/+4GB+Memory+/+640GB+Hard+Drive+-+Blue/1930072.p?id=1218301623975&skuId=193007202:11
PennBotTitle: Toshiba - Portege Laptop / Intel Core i3 Processor / 13.3" Display / 4GB Memory / 640GB Hard Drive - Blue - R835-P50x (at www.bestbuy.com)02:11
jedijfand they live there...so temperature extremes02:11
mutantturkeyjedijf: right02:11
mikedep334looks like newegg sold out of the older toshiba R835 model02:12
mikedep334newegg was selling the one before the HDD controller errata was fixed02:13
mikedep334http://www.adorama.com/TOR835P56.html?utm_term=Other&utm_medium=Shopping%20Site&utm_campaign=Other&utm_source=gbase02:13
PennBotTitle: PT324U-008003 Toshiba Portege R835-P56X 13.3 inch Notebook, Intel Core i5-2410M 2.3GHz Processor, 4GB RAM, 640GB Hard Drive, Windows 7 Home Premium, Blue (at www.adorama.com)02:13
mikedep334I love how it's only 3.2 lbs02:13
mikedep334http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-Portege-R835-P56x-13-3-Inch-Magnesium/dp/B004G8QOJS02:15
mikedep334lol02:15
mikedep334http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msstore/en_US/pd/productID.224539100?WT.mc_id=mercent&mr:trackingCode=DE3AFEE5-7264-E011-BBD9-001517384908&mr:referralID=NA02:15
PennBotTitle: Microsoft Store Online - Toshiba Portege R835 - Buy from Microsoft Store (at www.microsoftstore.com)02:15
mutantturkeyso many links D:02:16
mutantturkeywait these are all the same..02:16
mikedep334yeah02:16
mikedep334this looks like the most common R835 variant02:16
mutantturkeydo you think i should get one?02:16
mikedep334although I'm not sure about the microsoftstore.com model02:16
mikedep334mutantturkey, do more research02:16
mikedep334and price shopping02:16
mikedep334eg, shopping.google.com02:16
mikedep334but from what I've seen02:16
mikedep334it looks awesome02:16
mutantturkeymikedep334: I don't really know anything about laptops...02:17
mutantturkeyor computers really ( hardware wise)02:17
mikedep334http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=toshiba+r385+linux#sclient=psy&hl=en&source=hp&q=toshiba+r835+linux&aq=f&aqi=g-b1&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=a17560d1ef61d5f5&biw=1264&bih=128702:17
PennBotTitle: toshiba r385 linux - Google Search (at www.google.com)02:17
mikedep334mutantturkey, ok, read the user reviews on amazon02:17
jedijfmutantturkey: newegg has a lenovo i7 for 80002:17
mikedep334and make what you can out of the hardware specs02:17
mikedep334just keep in mind02:17
mikedep334rarely do you find a laptop with a powerful process at only 3.2 lbs02:17
mikedep334and good battery life02:17
mutantturkeyjedijf: link?02:18
mutantturkeymikedep334: how good? 8+?02:18
mikedep334ok, looks like microsoftstore.com is selling the R835-p55x, not the R835-p65x02:19
mikedep334reportedly, upto 9 hours02:19
mikedep334lets check the cnet review02:19
mikedep334http://us.toshiba.com/computers/laptops/portege/R830/R835-P55X/02:19
mikedep334that's the microsoftstore.com model02:19
mutantturkeyP55 vs P56?02:20
mikedep334http://reviews.cnet.com/laptops/toshiba-portege-r835-p56x/4505-3121_7-34449812.html#reviewPage102:21
PennBotTitle: Toshiba Portege R835-P56X Review - Watch CNET's Video Review (at reviews.cnet.com)02:21
mikedep334whoops, right02:21
mikedep334P55 vs P5602:21
mikedep334"The biggest surprise is the vastly improved battery life, topping 7 hours, and beating even the 13-inch MacBook Pro"02:21
mikedep334yeah, for a 13.3" laptop or a 3.2 lb laptop to have a regular laptop powerful processor (eg, not a ULV (Ultra-Low-Voltage)) CPU and get 7 hours of battery life is unheard of02:22
mikedep334it even has a dvd burner too02:23
mikedep334just read the user reviews02:23
mikedep334on amazon or cnet.com02:23
mikedep334only thing missing is bluetooth02:24
mikedep334oh, the 3 different types of USB ports is really nice02:24
jedijfmutantturkey: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683424609402:24
PennBotTitle: Newegg.com - lenovo IdeaPad Y560p 43972AU NoteBook Intel Core i7 2630QM2.00GHz 15.6 4GB Memory DDR3 1333 500GB HDD 5400rpm DVDRRW AMD Radeon HD 6570M (at www.newegg.com)02:24
mikedep334jedijf, yeah, that's good if you want a powerhouse, even though it will only get upto 2 to 2.5 hours of real world battery life02:25
mikedep334the toshiba portege R835 is meant to be a different type of laptop02:26
mikedep334eg, it's 5.95 lbs02:26
mikedep334it's also much better at gaming02:26
mutantturkeyI don't game02:27
mutantturkeyI don't like hot craptops02:27
mikedep334mutantturkey, every quad-core core i7 laptop I believe has to have dedicated graphics02:27
mutantturkeyI don't want a desktop.... I want a laptop.02:28
mikedep334so they almost always have better graphics02:28
mikedep334yeah02:28
jedijfmutantturkey: i would go to microcenter and 'feel' different brands so you have an idea what to expect even if you online a different model02:28
mutantturkeyif i wanted a quad core, i would get a desktop02:28
mikedep334that ideapad is a true "desktop replacement"02:28
mutantturkeyjedijf: you are a microcenter fan too? my friend raves about them02:28
jedijfmutantturkey: best thing evar02:28
jedijfand they sell bawls02:28
jedijfand caffeinated candy bars02:29
mutantturkeyoh shucks02:29
mutantturkeybetter go there02:29
mutantturkeyare the clocks relevant anymore?02:29
jedijf476 south--villanova exit---left at the bottom of ramp - left at 2nd light02:29
mutantturkeyvillanova? nice.02:30
mutantturkeyprobably will head up this weekend02:30
mikedep334mutantturkey, the best buy at KoP, next to the mall, has the best buy variant of the toshiba R83502:30
mikedep334they also have TONS of laptops02:30
mikedep334in general02:30
mutantturkeyI don't like best buy02:31
mutantturkeycall me crazy, call me what you will. But I HATE it there.02:31
mikedep334mutantturkey, ok, fair enough02:31
jedijfuse them to see/feel product02:31
mutantturkey I go in asking a few technical questions, they pretend like I don't know what I am looking for.02:31
jedijfand then get a gino giant02:31
mutantturkey"oh you must be looking for a $9000 laptop"02:31
mutantturkeymikedep334: what do you think of the i5's?02:31
mikedep334mutantturkey, like 67% of the laptops at best buy are under $50002:32
jedijfrmg51: you have an i7 right?02:32
rmg51yep02:32
mikedep334I have a quad-core core i5 in my desktop02:32
rmg51720m02:32
mikedep334the 1st gen of them02:32
mikedep334the i5-75002:32
mikedep334I love it02:32
mikedep334but the sandy bridge models are a large improvement for the dual core variants02:33
mikedep334and the amount of performance they offer per mhz/core is huge02:34
mikedep334also02:34
mutantturkeyso I should get one of the newer ones?02:34
mikedep334i5's have "turboboost"02:34
mutantturkeyDUMB.02:34
mikedep334mutantturkey, assuming it will run ArchLinux well, yes02:34
jedijfmutantturkey: too nice hardware may conflict with the "Arch Way"....02:34
mutantturkeyjedijf: not suprisingly, I find that most of them use relatively poweful hardware02:35
mikedep334when only 1 core is in use, it overclocks it02:35
* jedijf checks the credo02:35
mutantturkeythe Arch way, while nice in concept boils down to one this "It better just damned work, however I want it"02:35
mutantturkeymikedep334: yeah, most stuff is written for multicore anyways in linux02:35
mikedep334yeah02:36
mikedep334also02:36
mikedep334the dual-core core i5's always have "hyper-threading"02:36
mutantturkeyanyway my parents are getting me a laptop for college, so they said 800 bucks + anything i can add on, and that's my christmas and birthday.02:36
mutantturkeymikedep334: hyperthreading. LOL02:36
mutantturkeywell actually, on my intel atom it's like a 20% performance boost when i use it02:36
mikedep334mutantturkey, yup02:37
mikedep334I compiled a kernel on my fraternity brother's netbook02:37
mikedep334it was like 20% faster02:37
mikedep334with make -j202:37
mutantturkeyyeah exactly.02:37
mutantturkeyuse -j402:37
mutantturkeywhy -j2?02:37
mutantturkeyor -j302:37
mikedep334his netbook only had 1 physical core02:37
mikedep334-j2 offered about the same performance as -j302:38
mutantturkeyoh.02:38
mikedep334it was hard to tell02:38
mutantturkeymine is a desktop 33002:38
mutantturkeyso i have dual + ht02:38
mutantturkeyi do -j3 so I have one core to browse+ music whatever.02:38
mikedep334reportedly you should use 1 more job than logical cores you have02:38
mikedep334some say to even use twice as many jobs02:38
mutantturkeyoh really?02:39
mutantturkeyI always heard, one less than.02:39
mikedep334at least the number of cores you have02:39
mutantturkeyanyway, on an Atom, it's all a joke.02:39
jedijfmutantturkey: where you going to college?02:39
mutantturkeybut, compile the kernel in a ramfs and that's a nice speedup02:39
mikedep334an easy benchmark is the linux kernel with "allnoconfig"02:39
mutantturkeyjedijf: montco still for now, but I am getting a job at drexel working for a professor for a comp sci project all summer02:40
mutantturkeymontco again till the spring, then temple in the fall probably.02:40
mikedep334that way it compiles a more reasonable amount of the kernel02:40
jedijfmutantturkey: nice02:40
mutantturkeymikedep334: I have an extensivly modified kernel02:41
mutantturkeyno autoload modules or anything,02:41
mutantturkeyautoload is dumb.02:41
mutantturkeyI mean, it's nice, except that It re-figures out what you have every time02:41
mutantturkeythey should cache it, then if you have some new hardware, you can manually load it.02:41
mutantturkeythe overhead is a few seconds  of wasted life02:41
mikedep334yeah02:42
mutantturkeyanyway.02:42
mutantturkeyjedijf: yeah I am pretty psyched except ridiculously busy.02:42
jedijfmutantturkey: welcome to adulthood02:43
jedijf'ish02:43
mutantturkeyso that's going to be 2 jobs, both with like 25+ hours a week, then going to school (summer semster) + music and stuff + girlfriend.02:43
mutantturkeyfml.02:43
jedijfmutantturkey: i would use next weekend to go to kop best buy and microcenter just to get a feel for what hardware is out there...the builds, the kb's ...the 'feel' stuff , then research online02:44
mutantturkeyare there any aluminum cases for laptops? like mac's or anything02:45
mutantturkey_dumb dunkin wifi....02:47
mutantturkey_jedijf: yeah I just need to get a feel for it02:48
jedijfmutantturkey_: one of my hangups with 'real' laptops is the touchpad landing area...i seem to prefer the netbook form factor of that layout02:49
jedijfso, take your time...you end up living with it for a while02:50
mutantturkey_I am not crazy about touch pads, I am oriented towards keyboard02:50
jedijfi think that's why i love the old tp's...the eraserhead02:52
jedijfno touchpads02:52
mutantturkey_eraserheads <302:52
jedijfafter all that...almost every dev I know is macbook'd up02:56
mutantturkey_blech02:57
jedijfjust sayin'..you may want to throw 200 into it and get where you're gonna end up eventually anyway02:57
mutantturkey_I Looked at it seriously02:57
mutantturkey_I know, but I love linux02:57
mutantturkey_how is dual booting on it?02:57
jedijfhttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MacBook02:57
PennBotTitle: MacBook - ArchWiki (at wiki.archlinux.org)02:57
mutantturkey_also they are 1) not powerful 2) way to expensive for what you get 3) hipster02:57
mutantturkey_I mean that looks legit02:58
mutantturkey_the price is not justified.02:58
jedijfmicrocenter has them..look and keep an open mind02:58
jedijfit is uncanny how, like i said, everyone is suing them02:58
jedijfs/suing/using02:58
mutantturkey_I will take a look and such.02:58
jedijfme and freud..linux forever02:59
mutantturkey_I am a linux guy also, you know that.02:59
mutantturkey_mac's hardware is nicely laid out, i wish other vendors would switch to similar styles02:59
jedijfi think the variation in price is justified by the level of service available to you...03:01
mutantturkey_do you think?03:01
jedijfhave to give the devil his due03:01
mutantturkey_also for the fact that I am strongly interested in audio production03:01
mutantturkey_how is the mac hardware though?03:02
jedijfthey go to those apple stores and always leave satisfied03:02
jedijfwe always say they're underpowered, but in the end, they perform03:02
jedijfandrew: you around? your opinion would be appreciated03:03
mutantturkey_I am also looking for a laptop that will last03:06
mutantturkey_I do not get the impression with macs...03:06
mutantturkey_I feel like they get dated very quickly03:06
jedijfi just wanted to be fair....ultimately, all of your personal factors will be part of this decision, but you should give it a look, even if only for research03:10
mutantturkey_right of course03:10
jedijfyeah, the last dev i polled is a mac user too....it's 100%03:12
jedijf22:04 <@jedijf> erikh: you use a mac?03:13
jedijf22:10 < erikh> yessir03:13
mutantturkey_haha03:13
jedijfruny guy ^^^^03:13
jedijfruby03:13
jedijfarch user too03:13
mutantturkey_exactly03:13
mutantturkey_I say 75% of arch users are devs, or mess around with coding.03:13
jedijfi almost pulled the mac trigger(again) a couple of months ago03:14
* jedijf stares at iBook in the corner03:15
jedijfhmm.....http://www.archlinuxppc.org/03:16
PennBotTitle: Arch Linux PPC (at www.archlinuxppc.org)03:16
jedijftime to sleep....good luck searching...whatever you decide will be great; it'll be *new*03:18
mutantturkey_goodnight.03:23
BeckySanderlin_x\o/ <( Successful OS install )09:30
JonathanDMorning.10:44
rmg51morning JonathanD10:47
JonathanDhow goes?10:47
rmg51slowly10:51
rmg51we don't have any hot water :-(10:52
rmg51since yesterday :-/10:52
rmg51cold showers aren't any fun10:52
JonathanDoh dear.10:53
JonathanDsure they are, when it's this hot10:53
rmg51try it10:54
rmg51it's not fun10:54
andrewjedijf: I am now...12:12
* ChinnoDog yawns15:11
* InHisName yawns too15:54
andrewdamnit, so did I15:56
ChinnoDoghi BeckySanderlin_x16:34
BeckySanderlin_xsec.. configuring new OS install16:35
BeckySanderlin_xhow are you ChinnoDog16:39
BeckySanderlin_xjackson, are you trying peppermint too?16:40
jacksoni have16:40
BeckySanderlin_x2 or 1?16:41
jacksonone16:41
BeckySanderlin_xoo0o0o16:41
BeckySanderlin_xyou should try Two16:41
BeckySanderlin_xi just installed it16:41
jacksonok :)16:41
BeckySanderlin_xwell, i had a liveUSB of it16:41
BeckySanderlin_xbut i cleaned out my HDD and installed it just now16:41
BeckySanderlin_xquick, simple16:41
BeckySanderlin_xclean16:41
BeckySanderlin_xworks from the jump16:42
BeckySanderlin_xand now, its based off of Lubuntu 11.0416:42
BeckySanderlin_xand im loving it16:42
jacksonok16:42
ChinnoDogBeckySanderlin_x: I am good. Working. *sigh*16:43
BeckySanderlin_xWork on!16:44
BeckySanderlin_xget the paycheck16:44
ssweenywork. pfft16:44
BeckySanderlin_xhallo ssweeny16:44
BeckySanderlin_xhows you today16:44
teddy-dbearwork is way overrated ;-)16:44
ssweenyhi BeckySanderlin_x16:45
ssweenyi's just peachy16:45
BeckySanderlin_xgood16:45
ssweenyalso working but it's really hard for me to complain16:45
BeckySanderlin_xyou guys on at work on the internet. Stop complaining16:45
BeckySanderlin_xif i was at work on the internets i'd be all like 'weeeeeeeeeeeeee verrroooooooom'16:46
ssweenynot just that16:47
ssweenyi work on free software from my house16:47
ssweenyalso on the internet16:47
BeckySanderlin_xso thats more weeee verroooom's16:47
ssweenyhave to temper the wee verrooms and actually get some work done16:48
BeckySanderlin_xtrue..16:48
BeckySanderlin_xvery true16:48
* teddy-dbear has to actually leave the apartment :-/16:49
BeckySanderlin_xbai16:49
ChinnoDogI think it is funny that my phone downloads 110mb updates OTA when I still remember waiting 4 hours for an 11mb Warcraft 2 demo to download.19:26
BeckySanderlin_x?19:31
ssweenywarcraft 2?19:31
ssweenyyour download has been going for like 15 years by now19:31
BeckySanderlin_xwhy would w2 be 4hrs?19:31
BeckySanderlin_xwhat kind of internets do you have?19:32
ssweenyi think he means when wc2 was out19:32
ssweenyin 90s19:32
BeckySanderlin_xahh19:32
BeckySanderlin_xback in 56k days i guess19:32
BeckySanderlin_xBaud!19:32
BeckySanderlin_xanyways.. back to beating  WINE into submission to make it do my bidding(s).19:33
Sadinim installing ruby on my Desktop :D19:41
BeckySanderlin_xMinecraft surpasses 2.5 million in sales, still in beta ( http://www.joystiq.com/2011/06/13/minecraft-surpasses-2-5-million-in-sales-still-in-beta/ )23:55
PennBotTitle: Minecraft surpasses 2.5 million in sales, still in beta | Joystiq (at www.joystiq.com)23:56

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