[00:01] <etharooni> Alas.  I just can't get this to work.
[00:03] <charlie-tca> someone better with sound, help, please!
[00:03] <GridCube> mmm
[00:03] <GridCube> can i get a recap?
[00:04] <etharooni> Hi!  Yeah, so I had some problems and removed .config and .cache and since then, my audio doesn't seem to work.
[00:04] <etharooni> That's really all I know.
[00:04] <GridCube> mmm
[00:05] <GridCube> have you done >alsa force-unload          and then >alsa forse-reload  ?
[00:05] <etharooni> I haven't.  BUt I suppose I can.
[00:07] <etharooni> lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon file system /home/etharooni/.gvfs Output information may be incomplete.
[00:07] <GridCube> that sounds wrong
[00:07] <GridCube> let me do some research
[00:07] <etharooni> Then it says Ulsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon file system /home/etharooni/.gvfs Output information may be incomplete.
[00:08] <etharooni> whoopes
[00:08] <etharooni> Unloading ALSA sound driver modules
[00:08] <etharooni> And my nice little speaker icon disappeared
[00:08] <etharooni> Thanks for the helpage, people.
[00:10] <GridCube> etharooni, thats bound to happen
[00:11]  * GridCube should have warned you and apopligizes for dont
[00:11] <etharooni> Yeah.  Well I added it again just to see and the only cards are "Dummy output"
[00:11] <GridCube> yes have you done >alsa force-reload
[00:11] <etharooni> Yep.
[00:12] <etharooni> http://pastebin.com/K1yjuf8d
[00:14] <etharooni> Hmm.  I'mma reboot.  Just in the off-chance that fixes something.  See you.
[00:16] <etharooni> It works!
[00:16] <GridCube> :(
[00:16] <etharooni> Well that's nice.
[00:16] <GridCube> :D
[00:17] <GridCube> i was starting to get scare about it
[00:17] <GridCube> XD
[00:17] <etharooni> Naw, not an issue.
[00:17] <GridCube> :)
[00:17] <etharooni> Don't worry.
[00:18] <GridCube> :D good then it worked
[00:18] <etharooni> Thanks for your help, GridCube and charlie-tca
[00:19] <GridCube> :)
[00:19] <GridCube> de nada :)
[05:49] <Unit193> So... I can't upload a file from a gvfs mounted location unless I manually type it in? That's crap...
[07:47] <Wizard> hi
[08:42] <narender> hey people, need some help on changing profile picture in xubuntu on xfce, kindly help..
[08:43] <narender> hey people
[08:44] <narender> any buddy home... can some one help..
[08:48] <Unit193> narender: Place a jph file in your home with the name .face
[08:49] <Unit193> ...or not
[09:46] <stephanmg> i installed compiz and compizconfg-settings-manager, but i cannot execute compizconfig-settings-manager, because it is not in my $PATH or what?
[10:01] <gr8m8> stephanmg: isn't it called ccsm or similar?
[10:01] <gr8m8> !compiz
[10:23] <stephanmg> gr8m8: mh i don't know i'm on natty narwhal.
[10:23] <stephanmg> ccsm isn't found still
[12:22] <marijn> is there a way to have xfce4-session start a window manager other than xfwm4?
[12:23] <marijn> i found tutorials online that say you can just kill xfwm4, start you window manager, and save the session, but that doesn't seem to work (anymore)
[12:24] <marijn> or is there maybe a channel that's more suitable for xfce questions?
[12:24] <TheSheep> there is always #xfce
[12:24] <TheSheep> they may know better
[12:24] <marijn> thanks
[12:30] <Wizard> marijn: use session editor
[12:31] <Wizard> on session tab you have all applications registered by session
[12:32] <marijn> Wizard: which binary is that? xfce4-session-settings?
[12:32] <Wizard> xfwm4
[12:32] <Wizard> don't quit it!
[12:32] <Wizard> which wm do you want to run instead of xfwm?
[12:32] <marijn> xmonad
[12:32] <Wizard> you're asking for toubles ;P
[12:32] <marijn> i can get it to work for a single session by killing xfwm4 and starting xmonad, but as soon as i log out it's back to the default
[12:33] <marijn> no, really, it seems to work surprisingly well
[12:33] <Wizard> than kill xfwm, start xmonad and click save session in session settings
[12:33] <marijn> xmonad doesn't show up in the list of running programs there, though
[12:33] <marijn> and i can't figure out why not
[12:34] <Wizard> probably it doesn't support xsession protocol
[12:34] <marijn> i guess it doesn't
[12:34] <marijn> where is the session saved? i could edit it by hand...
[12:34] <Wizard> http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Xmonad/Using_xmonad_in_XFCE
[12:35] <Wizard> check this out
[12:35] <marijn> that's what i followed
[12:35] <Wizard> hmm
[12:35] <marijn> doesn't seem to work with the latest xfce
[12:35] <Wizard> ~/.cache/sessions
[12:35] <marijn> okay, let me try
[13:13]  * Wizard yawns
[13:20] <plantoschka> is it somehow possible to show file transfer speed in the copy/move progress windows in xubuntu ?
[13:27] <Wizard> hmm, i think it is not possible in thunar..
[13:28] <Wizard> and i don't remember if any file manager does that
[13:29] <Wizard> you can allways fill feature request, it would be nice :)
[13:50] <keitazor> hello ;)
[13:51] <Wizard> hi keitazor
[13:57] <plantoschka> feature request for xfce or xubuntu?
[14:00] <Sysi> for xfce would propably be better
[14:00] <Sysi> you can use iotop
[14:01] <Wizard> cool tool
[14:02] <Wizard> xfce devs are pretty friendly.. i suggested one change, the told me: send a patch
[14:02] <Wizard> ;P
[14:03] <Sysi> xfce is quite short on staff
[14:03] <Wizard> yeah, i know
[14:04] <Wizard> i even tried to prepare that patch for them, but i failed :)
[14:04] <Sysi> it's still propably the most stable DE
[14:04] <Sysi> some apps and plugins are getting old, but still great
[14:05] <Wizard> the only thing which annoys me is xfce's lack of consistency
[14:05] <Wizard> and general interface guidelines
[14:08] <Wizard> but what i like is that from release to release it's getting better (and still not bloated)
[14:10] <Sysi> it has features i like, and it *works*
[15:11] <planet8> What is the name of the menu in the botton that xubuntu uses?
[15:11] <charlie-tca> In Xubuntu 11.04, that is called panel 2
[15:11] <planet8> I mean, what is the name of the package?
[15:12] <charlie-tca> It is a panel, just as the one on top is a panel
[15:12] <charlie-tca> We hand built the launchers into it
[15:12] <charlie-tca> as part of the theme
[15:12] <planet8> I see, it looks nice, I thought it was something else.
[15:13] <charlie-tca> nope, the package providing it is the greybird theme
[15:13] <planet8> thanks
[15:14] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[17:00] <XubuntuKris> is there an easy way to format an sdcard to fat32?
[17:02] <GridCube> gparted
[17:02] <XubuntuKris> Ah, I knew I had seen that mentioned somewhere. thanks.
[17:02] <GridCube> :)
[17:03] <XubuntuKris> now, how to burn an img to it to make it bootable?lol
[17:03] <XubuntuKris> I'll find it through google.
[17:05] <GridCube> image?
[17:05] <GridCube> use unetbootin to make booteable usb stuff XubuntuKris
[17:06] <XubuntuKris> It's not a usb
[17:06] <XubuntuKris> it's an 8gig class 6 sdcard
[17:06] <GridCube> :P could you place it on a usb card reader?
[17:06] <GridCube> pendrives are just that but integrated
[17:08] <XubuntuKris> I've found a guide. it's showing a terminal command "dd if=blabla of=blabla
[17:09]  * GridCube doesnt know about that he just uses unetbooting when he wants booteable stuff
[17:10] <GridCube> there is also a way to install grub into it and tell it to boot the img inside, don't really know how
[18:35] <Wizard> ping
[18:35] <Wizard> is there a way to put thunderbird in message-indicator?
[18:36] <charlie-tca> not yet
[18:37] <Wizard> i see there's a tutorial on ubuntu forums, i guess it won't blink envelope icon, just adds thunderbird to indicator menu
[18:51] <Wizard> seems i was right
[18:57] <Wizard> k, i've added gnome integration plugin, installed notify-send and now it at least shows balloons
[18:58] <Warlock_11> Hello
[18:58] <Unit193> Wizard: There is an addon on launchpad (Not official!) that will add most/all of what you may be looking for (I use it) https://launchpad.net/libnotify-mozilla
[19:01] <Warlock_11> Looking for help with Translation settings in puTTY. I get strange characters when I look at info pages in a puTTY session connecting to a laptop running xubuntu. Typically this is resolved by changing the translation settings in puTTY to UTF-8 however this does not seem to resolve the problem. Any suggestions?
[19:03] <Wizard> i have no idea, Warlock_11
[19:03] <Wizard> but i may try
[19:05] <Wizard> could you tell me which info page are you browsing?
[19:05] <Warlock_11> I was looking at top
[19:06] <Wizard> hm, it doesn't show any strange chars in xfce term
[19:06] <Wizard> do you have translated info pages?
[19:08] <Warlock_11> No I don't use any translated pages. At work I can simply export my DISPLAY to my Windows Desktop and run xfce4-terminal and it looks good at home however via VPN I don't want to suffer through tunneling an Xsession to my laptop.
[19:10] <Warlock_11> I run a Squid Proxy on off of this laptop for my Admin team that gets us around a websense filter. It was the easiest way to deal with having to request a bypassed IP address each time we added a new device to our desks.
[19:13] <Warlock_11> I will keep digging on google.com/linux and see what I can find. i just thought if someone else had come across this. I have been saying I would install a wiki to document all my fixes and just maybe I will do that once I figure this seemingly benign but annoying problem out.
[19:14] <Warlock_11> Take care Wizard!
[19:14] <Wizard> lol
[19:19] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu community meeting in #xubuntu-devel in 40 minutes. Everyone is invited to attend. Agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings
[19:21] <Wizard> too bad i planned floor painting
[19:59] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu community meeting in #xubuntu-devel in 1 minutes. Everyone is invited to attend. Agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings
[20:49] <Wizard> hi again
[21:32] <xrdodrx> Wizard, hello
[22:03] <Wizard> xrdodrx: hi
[22:48] <Wizard> i have xubuntu natty installed on two machines and on both selecting turn off from session menu logs out
[22:48] <Wizard> :/
[23:13] <Wulong> Wizard: same here, but it had disappeard now. Think its because of some update.
[23:50] <charlie-tca> Wizard: the issue is due to incompatibility with Xorg . It is being worked by Xfce, and the workaround is to logout, then restart or shutdown from the gdm screen
[23:51] <charlie-tca> and every distro using xfce has that same issue