[00:03] Has anyone looked at http:.//www.kubuntu.org recently? [00:07] liveuser: whats the issue? [00:09] is it me or is that download button HUGE [00:09] and misaligned [00:10] well ... there's some weird issue with CSS [00:10] and there's no way we can align it [00:10] or, lemme ask someone who might know how to fix it [00:11] sure, I'm clueless how one edits that [00:11] i've already talked to Riddell about this before [00:11] when we had the 10.10 download banner [00:12] it was misaligned then as well [00:13] was the banner always that large? I rarely look at the front page [00:14] nope [00:14] well [00:14] the banner itself is large this time [00:16] shadeslayer: why do I get the feeling this doesn't look good: http://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/pics/drupal.png [00:17] uh [00:17] 0.o [00:17] i have no idea what that means for us [00:17] ->drupal n00b [00:18] me neither [00:18] that's why I don't want to do more than look at it... [00:18] heh [00:24] btw, i think we should release this as a SRU : https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdelibs/repository/revisions/3bbd4496bc8a01e80df61763bfd0347e8ba7f09a/diff [00:24] imo its a important security fix [00:28] ack from me at least [00:33] ScottK: apachelogger https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdelibs/repository/revisions/3bbd4496bc8a01e80df61763bfd0347e8ba7f09a/diff << SRU'able ? [00:40] shadeslayer: SRU or security update. Not sure which. I bet micahg has an opinion. [00:40] alright [00:41] heh, its a miracle this even came to my attention :P [00:42] if its a security update, it'll be better to update packager as well [00:51] shadeslayer: fixed I guess. When I went there is just said OK [00:51] liveuser: what was the issue anyways? [00:51] s/it'll/i'll [01:00] shadeslayer: There was no page. Just a plain file that said ok [01:00] heh [01:01] ok guess that's cool now [01:11] ScottK: shadeslayer: IMHO, that's a security enhancement, not a vulnerability, so it wouldn't qualify for -security, but you can ask mdeslaur in the morning to be sure [01:12] micahg: where can we find him? [01:12] ubuntu-devel ? [01:12] shadeslayer: #ubuntu-hardened after 12:30 UTC [01:12] alright [01:12] * shadeslayer idles === rickspencer3_ is now known as GreatOldOne [05:27] apachelogger: ping ping ping [05:51] yofel: poke === claydoh_ is now known as claydoh [07:14] has anyone seen gimp seg faulting on kubuntu but not apparently on ubuntu? [07:14] in natty [07:16] seaLne: change the GTK theme in the System Settings, not the oxygen-gtk [07:18] seaLne: yes [07:18] seaLne: apachelogger has the bug iirc [07:18] but me and yofel can't reproduce it for some reason [07:20] great thanks [07:53] has someone tested the packages in kubuntu-ppa/staging? (oneiric) [08:24] morning [08:24] shadeslayer: pong [08:24] yofel: i haz CSS fixes for kubuntu.org [08:24] any ideas how to apply? [08:25] i kept searching for quite a bit, can't figure out where to applu [08:25] *apply [08:25] oh and i'm sleep deprived so i'm a bit scared to meddle around on the website [08:26] nope, I'm clueless about how to edit the frontpage [08:27] here's the fixed HTML : http://paste.kde.org/81919/ [08:33] shadeslayer: which parts did you edit? [08:34] oh, finally found the front page html [08:38] yofel: just run a diff xD [08:39] and it-s fixed up the CSS [08:44] ok, let's see... [08:47] basically fix div id frontpage-promo, div class frontpage-text iirc [08:49] right, I had the get the full source though since drupal changes the formatting of the page source when showing it :/ [08:50] @_@ [08:50] so I had a huge diff at first [08:50] anyway, applied [08:50] looks better [08:50] where did you fix it? [08:51] looks better indeed [08:52] yay! [08:53] thanks, you two [08:53] yofel: dude, where did you commit it? [08:53] could use with a bit of fixing tho [08:54] you go to administer -> content management -> content, then somewhere in the list you'll find the Homepage and can edit it [08:55] drupal is confusing... [09:26] bbl [10:10] * bulldog98 just found an mistake in kdepim packaging (fixing that now) [10:12] I put a lib into to packages, which isn’t going to work [10:15] whoops :D [10:16] jussi: jea and I found 3 others in that package, too good that the version number was 0ubuntu0~ppa5 [10:18] * bulldog98 lets launchpad build a corrected version. Could someone please verify that it’s ok, since I need quite long to download the packages [10:23] bulldog98 will you make a ppa with 4.6 pim for natty?:) [10:25] sheytan: runtime is already in staging [10:25] for natty [10:25] I need to verify, that kdepim’s ok to install, then I’ll bump the version number to 0ubuntu1~ppa1 and backport it to natty [10:26] ok, thanks :) [10:27] sheytan: If you could try to install kdepim in an oneiric pbuilder if you have sufficent internet connection speed I’d be glad, cause I have 56 kB/s [10:27] currently it’s still building [10:29] bulldog98 Sorry, i'm at work on winshit [10:30] sheytan: ok no problem [10:31] * bulldog98 ’ll push natty packages now, if they arenot installable I’ll update them later [10:46] what what [10:46] do we have kdepim yet? ^^ [10:47] apachelogger: we have it in staging, but we need to test that (install wise) [10:48] scary [10:48] bulldog98: kubuntu-ppa/staging? [10:48] apachelogger: yes === xeros_ is now known as xeros [10:48] runtime is ok, but I need to test the kdepim package, if there are override conflicts [10:49] bulldog98: for natty? [10:49] apachelogger: oneiric and natty are building atm [10:49] bleh [10:49] * apachelogger wants to test :P [10:50] apachelogger: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/staging/+build/2567472 [10:51] that is going to take forever [10:52] oneiric build at 86% [10:52] apachelogger: about 1h [10:54] * apachelogger builds kdelibs on arm [10:54] apachelogger: natty needs longer, I have to fix a dependency [10:54] meh [10:55] why isn’t kde-sc-dev-latest 4.6.3 avaidable for staging? [10:55] cause natty shipped with .2 [10:56] apachelogger: is updates enabled in backports (kubuntu-ppas)? [10:59] * bulldog98 now has to upload a new backport [11:00] hi. what is the name of the xz package on kubuntu? [11:01] shadeslayer: btw why have you set kde-sc-dev-latest to 4.6.3 in kdepim? [11:01] a user is getting "dpkg-deb (subprocess): unable to execute data (xz): No such file or directory" so i want to make sure that xz is present [11:01] !search xz [11:01] Found: [11:01] !info xz [11:01] Package xz does not exist in natty [11:02] does kubuntu have a command-not-found tool that knows which package it is in? [11:02] ye, should have [11:02] !info xz-utils [11:02] xz-utils (source: xz-utils): XZ-format compression utilities. In component main, is required. Version 5.0.0-2 (natty), package size 87 kB, installed size 368 kB [11:02] bingo, thanks [11:03] wstephenson: apt-cache search helps :) [11:03] wajig search <3 [11:03] bulldog98: i don't have kubuntu booted atm, just replying to a mail. [11:03] wstephenson: ok that’s a point for you :) [11:04] wstephenson: and hi, long time no see [11:05] apachelogger: are you on natty? [11:06] hi Tm_T :) [11:08] bulldog98: the OBS builds packages for various kubuntu versions, but as the basic packages of a distribution evolve, we have to keep the OBS config up to date, by adding eg xz-utils to be able to install build requirements compressed using it. [11:09] wstephenson: ah ok that sounds good [11:09] apachelogger: why does dh_shlibdeps takes that long? [11:10] ok, cheerio [11:21] apachelogger: should I copy the kdepim-runtime stuff over to backports now? [11:39] bulldog98: experimental first [11:40] IMHO [11:40] also needs more testing [11:40] more more more more testing [11:41] hey apachelogger [11:41] apachelogger: have you heard of the HP Touchpad? [11:42] from my preliminary inspection, it looks like a) webos has root access , b) we can dual boot OS's with webos [11:42] http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Main_Page << loads of info here [11:44] dubdubdub [11:44] ole! [11:44] i'm going to download the new SDK [11:45] or the current SDK that is [11:45] and poke around the emulator [11:45] apachelogger: runtime building in experimental [11:45] apachelogger: http://www.precentral.net/webos-and-shr-dual-booted-pre [11:47] apachelogger: if a libary moved from one package to an other, do I have to set Replaces or Conflicts? [11:49] yes [11:49] bulldog98: Replaces and Breaks [11:49] ok thanks [11:50] <= 4..5.96 or << 4.5.96 ? [11:53] if version 4.5.96-0ubuntu0~ppa1 breaks? [11:53] debfx, apachelogger: ? [11:54] bulldog98: << 4.5.96 [11:54] though if it has an epoch you need to include it [11:54] debfx: ok thanks [11:54] debfx: that’s clear [12:09] hey, can I got access to ~kubuntu-ppa ? I want to update qt-at-spi in the experimental ppa before pushing to oneiric. [12:12] you should become kubuntu-dev/member/ninja :P [12:13] oh, nice, jr is only superlord of kubuntu-ppa [12:13] #mgmtfail [12:13] didrocks: you are now ninja, thus should have access to the ppa [12:15] !help ninjas [12:15] Sorry, I don't know anything about help ninjas [12:15] rotf [12:18] ^_^ [12:18] apachelogger: \o/ excellent, thanks a lot :) [12:18] you probably need !ninjas or ~ninjas [12:18] !ninjas [12:18] Ninja Time! apachelogger, bulldog98, debfx, JontheEchidna, Lex79, maco, neversfelde, nhandler, Quintasan, rgreening, Riddell, ScottK, stalcup, txwikinger, yofel [12:18] ok that works [12:19] now why do you need them ninjas? [12:19] just waiting for next refresh so that the bot can see me? :) [12:19] apachelogger, bulldog98, debfx, JontheEchidna, Lex79, maco, neversfelde, nhandler, Quintasan, rgreening, Riddell, ScottK, stalcup, txwikinger, yofel: sorry guys was just a test [12:19] didrocks: I think that is handled manualy [12:19] didrocks: nah, its handled manually [12:19] also [12:19] oh ok :) [12:19] apachelogger: am i not a ninja anymore? :( [12:20] oh please someone exclude me from the spamming list [12:20] hehe [12:20] debfx: oh btw : https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdelibs/repository/revisions/3bbd4496bc8a01e80df61763bfd0347e8ba7f09a/diff : might be important [12:20] shadeslayer: no, dunno, how would I know? [12:20] * shadeslayer is trying to figure out if that should go into security or updates [12:21] apachelogger: ubottu doesn't think i'm a ninja [12:21] apachelogger: the builds for kdepim are ready (alrought it will complain of override) [12:21] so, the new qt-at-spi is still quite crashy (seems to need to backport some qt patches from 4.8), but at least, the basics work :) [12:21] bulldog98: iirc the bump for kde-sc-dev was probably in debian, but i don't really remember [12:21] but still better in an experimental ppa for now [12:22] brr [12:22] shadeslayer: could be [12:22] icecream could do with some improvements [12:22] WRT xcompiling [12:22] there is pita all around [12:22] maybe i should sleep now [12:23] i've been up for 52 hours [12:23] apachelogger: in fact I never got icecream running properly [12:23] shadeslayer: defently you need sleep [12:23] bulldog98: the only problem being, i can't sleep [12:23] i'm not sleepy [12:24] shadeslayer: I haven’t really sleeped yesterday (trough doing kdepim stuff) :) [12:24] bulldog98: at times i also sleep for 18 hours at a stretch [12:24] yeah KDE PIM is a pita [12:24] ok [12:24] shadeslayer: it should be splitted up into smaller parts, so it’s easier to build [12:25] you mean like seprate tarball for kmail/etc etc [12:25] shadeslayer: yes [12:25] ah [12:25] agreed [12:25] shadeslayer: you are accumulating sleep need for more efficient and longer days? :-) [12:25] that would be awesome [12:25] it's too big [12:25] didrocks: lol [12:25] bulldog98: did you backport akonadi for natty? [12:25] cause I really think you should [12:26] apachelogger: no haven’t done that [12:27] but I’m doing that atm [12:28] !info mysql-server-core-5.1 [12:28] mysql-server-core-5.1 (source: mysql-5.1): MySQL database server binaries. In component main, is optional. Version 5.1.54-1ubuntu4 (natty), package size 4518 kB, installed size 11668 kB [12:29] apachelogger: pushed that to staging [12:37] * shadeslayer puts his SRU hat on [12:37] debfx: i'm going to SRU this for ubuntu : https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdelibs/repository/revisions/3bbd4496bc8a01e80df61763bfd0347e8ba7f09a/diff [12:37] maybe debian would want it too [12:38] shadeslayer: oneiric, too? [12:38] not needed [12:38] bulldog98: its fixed in 4.7 [12:38] oh wait [12:38] it needs to be in oneiric first [12:39] only then can it go into natty [12:39] well ... 4.7 is going to take time [12:39] shadeslayer: why hasn't upstream backported it to 4.6? [12:40] dunno [12:40] hm the new string might be a problem [12:41] debfx: yes it’s gone be a problem, cause the is a langpack update going on [12:41] hmmm [12:41] debfx: how do i handle this then? [12:41] imo its a important security enhancement [12:42] shadeslayer: ask in kde-i18n-doc@kde.org for a string exeption an backport it to 4.6 [12:43] ok [12:44] I'd get in contact with the committer, maybe he already has plans to backport it [12:44] oh right that’s the other thing I forgot to mention :) [12:44] yeah i'm CC'ing him in the mail [12:45] or should i just contact the committer first? [12:46] oh [12:46] shadeslayer: maybe you should contact him first in private about that [12:46] CCMAIL: kde-i18n-doc@kde.org [12:46] it's already been CC'd [12:46] but i guess thats for KDE 4.7 ? [12:46] shadeslayer: when was that commited? [12:47] "Added by Dawit Alemayehu 19 days ago" [12:47] https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdelibs/repository/revisions/3bbd4496bc8a01e80df61763bfd0347e8ba7f09a/ << here you go [12:48] shadeslayer: there was no following up mails [12:49] but that was for 4.7 were only soft string freeze is in place [12:49] hmm [12:49] for 4.6 there is hard string freeze [12:50] only what is essential is being added (= nearly nothing will got added) [12:50] yeah [12:52] shadeslayer: but there can’t happen more than saing no to it [12:52] !info plasma-widget-networkmanagement [12:52] plasma-widget-networkmanagement (source: plasma-widget-networkmanagement): Network Management widget for KDE4 Plasma. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9~svngit20110408-0ubuntu2 (natty), package size 62 kB, installed size 296 kB [12:54] bulldog98: sorry what? [12:54] shadeslayer: they can’t do more to you than saying no, you don’t get this permission [12:56] bulldog98: right, so i'll send a mail to the l18n team asking for a exception [12:56] or rather committer first [12:58] shadeslayer: first to the commiter to ask him what he thinks about that [12:58] yeah [13:01] done [13:01] ok i'm sleeping now [13:01] cya [13:03] re [13:16] * bulldog98_konver got an kernel error (nice null pointer) === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [13:17] * Quintasan calls freescale [13:19] * jussi crosses fingers for Quintasan [13:20] * yofel will probably wait for pandaboards to become available again [13:20] * jussi likes freescale [13:21] * jussi wonders how long before some one messes up the pattern [13:22] * yofel too ^^ === bulldog98_konver is now known as bulldog98 [13:25] * yofel wonders in the meanwhile what he did wrong with smokegen. Builds fine with cmak&make, but is FTBFS with dpkg-buildpackage [13:26] * jussi thinks yofel may be missing a dep in the control file perhaps? [13:27] * yofel doesn't think so, this is dpkg-buildpackage, not pbuilder [13:28] * yofel builds without library-packages.mk [13:28] * jussi says oh... [13:28] * jussi now has no idea [13:41] * yofel found the culprit: debian-qt-kde.mk, is confused and out of battery. BBL [13:42] * jussi hi 5's yofel [13:44] http://postimage.org/image/i5z7vbhg/de85831c/ kernel-error === bulldog98 is now known as bulldog98_konver [13:48] nice btrfs is broken in oneiric === makl is now known as ximion [13:50] s/broken/my partions/ [13:50] bulldog98_konver meant: "nice btrfs is my partions in oneiric" === rdieter is now known as rdieter_work === tazz_ is now known as tazz === makl is now known as ximion [14:24] jussi: lol, the lady assured me I will have response today [14:24] * Quintasan waits [14:25] * apachelogger missed out on a great /me run :( === ximion1 is now known as ximion [14:34] lol [14:36] We shall have Gluon in both in Debian and Ubuntu soon [14:37] That means, some awesum games for KDE [14:40] bulldog98_konver: kdepim looks fine except for the overwrite error [14:45] \o/ [14:45] Quintasan: did someone write pong for it yet? :P [14:46] yofel: pong for what? [14:47] Quintasan: pong using gluon? [14:48] no idea [14:48] * apachelogger notes that there is quite the lack of pong clones [14:48] especially ascii only [14:51] yofel: there is :D [14:51] hey there :) [14:52] agateau: you there ? [14:52] then cool :) [14:52] * yofel goes back fighting smoke [14:52] Tonio_: yup, hi! [14:52] * Quintasan hugs Tonio_ [15:03] great, #kubuntu -> kdegraphics 4.6.4 ships okular 0.12.1 which should be 0.12.4 [15:03] wth is dirk doing... [15:05] apachelogger: that should be fixed with ~ppa7 [15:12] yofel: great have you wrote a mail to kde-packagers? [15:12] no, was about to do that in a few mins [15:13] this git conversion is messing everything up... [15:13] hey agateau :) [15:13] I was wondering about the patches you wrote for kopete and konversation notification... [15:13] indeed [15:13] when I close kopete window, it stays open and I have to file/quit to quit [15:14] that seems normal [15:14] konversation doesn't work the same way... is that on purpose ? [15:14] yofel: I actually blame dirk for not being on top of his game [15:14] I think konversation/any irc client, should stick in the same place, the same way an instant messaging does right ? [15:14] Tonio_: mmm that's old... I don't remember [15:14] hey Quintasan :) [15:14] agateau: okay... I'll look at your patches then [15:15] apachelogger: We are officialy loved by Calligra [15:15] and you should get Pong in Gluon some time soon [15:15] Quintasan: where is the love? [15:15] also do we have a snapshot build of calligra yet? [15:15] cookies at Akademy [15:15] * Quintasan looks at shadeslayer for snapshot [15:15] Tonio_: I think what happened is that support for message menu in Konversation did not involve messing with quit-vs-close like in Kopete, so I didn't change the close behavior [15:16] * agateau wonders if his sentence makes sense [15:16] apachelogger: _Groo_ was doing something for natty, ping him when you see him [15:16] shadeslayer: awaken my warrior, there is work to be done! [15:16] lol [15:16] lol, you just missed him ^^ [15:17] yofel: perhaps I should make him a true minion [15:17] * apachelogger has too many mails [15:17] apachelogger: Do you know whether that magical patch that broke pressure support in Qt is there or not? [15:17] should still be there [15:18] hmm [15:18] targeted for alpha2 IIRC [15:18] reminds me that I should patchy patchy in upstream KDE [15:18] cripple phonon in KDE a bit [15:18] so it is bokred right now? [15:18] Quintasan: yes [15:18] crapz [15:18] y u ask? [15:19] apparently pressure support in Krita from Calligra doesn't work [15:19] We are building against kde-qt [15:19] That's the strangest thing [15:19] Quintasan: in neonz? [15:20] yes [15:20] magic [15:20] are you sure it loads the right Qt? [15:20] I asked for the mentioned user to join us in #project-neon and tell us how is he running it === hunger_ is now known as hunger [15:20] also someone should try to get some wacom thingies sponsored we can QA that stuff actually [15:21] I have a Wacom tablet right here [15:21] Quintasan: pmap `pidof krita` | grep Qt [15:21] yofel: got a pn install? [15:21] yes [15:21] Quintasan: you just made yourself official Qt wacom QA lead [15:21] congrats [15:21] can you try what apachelogger said? [15:23] hm, krita does stupid things when being run from my normal session, let me start a VM [15:24] yofel: using Virtual Box? [15:24] export KDEHOME=$HOME/.project-neon-kde/ [15:24] are you not patching kdelibs? [15:24] yes [15:24] yofel: Did you get the guest-additions grp. driver to work? [15:24] yes you are not or yes you are? ^^ [15:24] apachelogger: we do build with -DKDE_DEFAULT_HOME=~/.project-neon-kde (or how that option was called) [15:25] hm, that var seems overly useless then :P [15:25] are you rpathing neon? [15:25] latter I don't think we do [15:25] more like I don't know enough about rpath [15:25] IMHO you should [15:25] need to read cmake docs [15:26] * yofel has the page open in a ffx tab actually [15:26] too much todo -.- [15:26] should be one command with cmake [15:26] actually IIRC cmake by default rpaths ^^ [15:26] it does [15:26] Do we have something like http://blog.gokmengoksel.com/2011/06/quickformat-–-an-exciting-removable-disk-formatter-for-pardus/ ? [15:26] and rpathing manually in CMake does some strange things if you don't know how to do it === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw [15:27] ScottK: I tried to package it, then I tried to install it manually [15:27] it didn't show up [15:27] Quintasan: is it pyth0rn? [15:27] ScottK: no we do not [15:27] most likely [15:27] Probably since it's Pardus. [15:27] Quintasan: plz check [15:28] Someone should go talk to the Pardus dudes and help them get this upstream. [15:28] ScottK: solution: create one upstream and bash pardus for not doing upstream work [15:28] I'd rather convince them to push it upstream. [15:28] Pardus has done some interesting things and it'd be great to get them pushing stuff more upstream. [15:30] * apachelogger can live without overly fat script language utils with a use/fatness ratio that makes you wonder "why" [15:40] apachelogger: You wanted armel PPAs: getting there - http://dmtechtalk.wordpress.com/2011/06/14/135/ [15:55] why is the kubuntu.org/support/deutsch broken? === charlie-tca is now known as charlie-tca1 [16:02] ScottK: I already talked with some people from there and since then I can say that they've improve the communication towards upstream [16:03] I'm still not happy about it, but a step is a step :p [16:03] afiestas: Great. Now we get more awesome in KDE [16:03] afiestas: Would you help us getting plasma-contour in Neon at some point? [16:07] I can help, yes, though right now I don't have it setup in my laptop [16:07] to ahve contour in Neon you will have to invest time each week, since it changes each week [16:08] no hurry, I'm pretty busy right now [16:08] * Quintasan disappears for and hour or two [16:09] yeah btrfsck works [16:11] doesn't fix anything though [16:11] yofel: it did [16:12] then whatever you had wasn't really an inconsisten FS [16:12] the btrfsck in the archive changes nothing in the FS [16:12] and the one that does is still COMING SOON™ [16:13] yofel: it gave me a kernel null pointer, so I guess it was a corrupt [16:13] the trace you showed? wasn't that from nouveau? [16:14] yofel: after I restarted there was one by btrfs [16:14] although kernel null pointer would be a btrfs.ko but [16:14] hm, dunno, I do have an image of an oopsing btrfs lying around here, not fixable with current btrfsck [16:16] yofel: maybe it has changed with linux 3.0-0 in archive? [16:17] hm, could try that right, I reported the oops during 2.6.39 [16:18]