[00:05] lifeless: what permission is needed to modify upstream links for Ubuntu packages [00:08] I think its upload [00:08] it got locked down somewhat with the new translations stuff [00:11] well, I can't modify for stuff I can upload [00:11] I was told "packager" whatever that means in LP codespeak [00:11] thats a bug [00:11] micahg: uploader [00:11] :(, I guess I need to file a bug [00:12] yes indeed [00:12] lifeless: thanks [00:15] bug 796867 for anyone interested [00:15] Launchpad bug 796867 in Launchpad itself "Cannot modify upstream of packages I can upload in Ubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/796867 [03:43] How often does malone process new@b.l.n mail? It has been twenty minutes since I sent it. [03:44] twb: Every three minutes, normally. Let me check the logs. [03:44] -kernel suggested I may have a "don't email me about things I do" option enabled somewhere. [03:45] * ScottK is a big fan of that option. [03:45] I'm expecting an email back from malone as I would get from debbugs, along the lines of "your new bug is #12345" [03:46] twb: That option is new, and the email interface is old. If you have it enabled then you won't get any notification of a successful filing. [03:46] There's no hint of an error in the log. [03:46] I haven't used the web UI for years [03:46] Hmm. [03:46] This is the email I sent: http://paste.debian.net/119750/ [03:48] twb: Hm, that looks reasonable. [03:48] There's an upgrade going on at the moment, but the cron jobs should still be running. [03:48] can you set importance on new bugs when not part of bugcontrol? [03:48] ajmitch: I figured I'd try [03:49] I'm assuming malone will complain about badness rather than dropping my mail on the floor :-( [03:49] Heh. [03:50] It normally does. [03:50] wgrant: I'll idle here; holler at me if you have any news. Thanks for looking into it. [03:57] * micahg has seen a case where it sets importance w/out the person in bug control [04:00] wgrant: Time again for timeouts on the queue accept page: Error ID: OOPS-1991I17 [04:00] https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1991I17 [04:00] o/ scottk [04:00] That was fast. [04:01] Hello poolie. [04:03] ugh, filing a bug against launchpad timed out now...OOPS-1991AV33 [04:03] https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1991AV33 [04:06] twb, micahg, ScottK: Something is holding locks open on one of the bug tables. It's causing timeouts, and probably making mail processing unhappy. We're trying to fix. [04:06] micahg: yeah i have that too [04:06] wgrant: perhaps this ought to go onto lpstatus etc [04:06] wgrant: thanks [04:06] poolie: Indeed, I am finding the password. [04:06] thanks [04:07] Ah. Thanks. [04:07] wgrant: ah, thanks [04:07] Might also ought to go in /topic. === wgrant changed the topic of #launchpad to: Bug modifications timing out sometimes | https://launchpad.net/ | Help contact: - | Launchpad is an open source project: https://dev.launchpad.net/ | This channel is logged: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ [04:12] wgrant: fwiw mine is filing, not modifying, and it's timing out 100% of the time [04:13] True. [04:13] unless "sometimes" means "on monday" :) [04:14] Not all modifications are timing out. [04:14] All filing seems to be. [04:15] modifications that don't change summaries won't insert into the journal [04:19] poolie: Could you try filing your bug again, please? [04:20] FWIW I was just able to accept a package from New. [04:20] i'm so glad wallyworld fixed it so i could back up and copy out my (fairly long) bug summary [04:20] hooray! [04:20] poolie: It worked? [04:22] \o/ my bug worked as well [04:22] it did [04:22] Thanks. [04:22] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lazr.restfulclient/+bug/796992 [04:22] Ubuntu bug 796992 in lazr.restfulclient (Ubuntu) "pth file overrides pythonpath" [High,Triaged] [04:22] Should be all happy again now. [04:22] (which might amuse you by its strangeness) [04:22] The upgrade held more locks that we expected, and we didn't notice it had hung. [04:24] * twb looks at INBOX === wgrant changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Help contact: - | Launchpad is an open source project: https://dev.launchpad.net/ | This channel is logged: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ [04:25] wgrant: do I need to resend my new@ email? [04:25] twb: Shouldn't... but we'll see. [04:26] You filed a bug an hour ago and another 4 minutes ago. [04:26] Bug #796993, bug #796937 [04:26] Launchpad bug 796993 in linux (Ubuntu) "Disable CONFIG_NET_NS (for #720095) breaks LXC" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/796993 [04:26] Launchpad bug 796937 in linux (Ubuntu) "Disable CONFIG_NET_NS (for #720095) breaks LXC" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/796937 [04:26] Yay [04:26] The second one might be gmail's MTA resending or something... I didn't resend it. [04:27] it wasn't showing up on your bugs page earlier when you were asking about it, either [04:28] It wasn't, no. [04:28] process-mail was hung on the problematic lock. [04:30] poolie: i think you have just discovered one of the ways in which setuptools is terrible [04:31] As if it needed more... [04:36] urk, there is no tag cloud on https://bugs.launchpad.net/bzr [04:37] and search times out [04:38] poolie: What search times out? [04:39] https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/796998 [04:39] Ubuntu bug 796998 in Launchpad itself "tag cloud missing" [Critical,Triaged] [04:39] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bzr/+bugs?field.searchtext=xfail&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch=&field.has_no_package= [04:39] worked the second time [04:39] sorry, worked the third time, failed the first two [04:39] Tag cloud is critical? [04:39] It took 1.5s for me :/ [04:39] ScottK: It's a regression. [04:39] OK. [04:39] ScottK: Regressions are critical. [04:39] And this particular one is easily fixed. [04:39] Makes sense. [04:40] i'm so glad you're here, wgrant :) === medberry is now known as med_out [05:13] wgrant: since you seem able to work magic, can you do something with this: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/160629 [05:14] micahg: The analysis of the question is mistaken. [05:16] micahg: I've commented on the question with the real problem and solution. [05:16] wgrant: thank you :) [05:16] micahg: Hopefully a maintenance squad will pick it up tonight. [05:16] wgrant: cool, thanks [05:16] micahg: Otherwise I will organise it tomorrow, even though I'm really not meant to. [05:23] poolie: Tags portlet is fixed. Thanks for letting us know. === Ursula is now known as Ursinha [07:35] hi, is there a way to create a bug without using "ubuntu-bug"? e.g. i want to create a bug against launchpad. cant find "create bug" on the launchpad-site [07:36] sorry i am blind... [07:36] iceroot: You want to file a bug about the software that runs on Launchpad.net? [07:36] wgrant: correct [07:37] iceroot: https://launchpad.net/launchpad, you'll find 'Report a bug' on the right. [07:37] wgrant: thank you === Naresh``` is now known as Naresh === Naresh is now known as Naresh` === Naresh` is now known as Naresh [07:49] wgrant: thanks === henninge changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Help contact: henninge | Launchpad is an open source project: https://dev.launchpad.net/ | This channel is logged: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ [08:57] http://www.apple.com/au/macosx/whats-new/launchpad.html. Trademark violation? [08:57] somethinginteres: There's already a bug and Canonical's legal team is looking into it. [08:58] nigelb: OK just wanted to give a heads up if that wasn't the case. [11:48] hi all. What do I do with spam comments? [11:49] https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion I believe [11:49] Chipaca: or just tell us here [11:49] https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+question/110556 [11:50] the Styles user seems to be a person as per some of his comments above, but then the last three are spam [11:51] Chipaca: I removed the comments, I'll have a look if I need to suspend the account. [11:51] Thanks for reporting. [11:51] henninge: awesome, thank you [11:52] 0 karma, I'll suspend the user [11:57] hi henninge, could you assign https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+question/161368 to the losas (or even better have a losa look at it? ;) thanks === henninge_ is now known as heninge [12:02] dpm: so you are saying that you approve him becoming the owner of the team? [12:02] dpm: can you please add a comment saying so to the question? [12:06] dpm: I moved the question to Launchpad: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/161368 [12:07] dpm: and assigned it to the losas [12:11] dpm, heninge: thats done [12:18] Is building of dunny packages specifically disabled for PPAs? I have a package which builds these fine in pbuilder however they are not when it is uploaded to the PPA.( control file: http://paste.debian.net/119786/ dummies at the bottom) [12:18] s/dunny/dummy/ [12:19] arand: Which PPA? [12:19] https://edge.launchpad.net/~arand/+archive/redeclipse/+packages [12:20] (you shouldn't be using edge) [12:21] I did have a previous "redeclipse" package which I assumed would get replaced, might this be what not happened? [12:21] gnuoy, heninge, thanks! (Hening: yeah, I did approve of him to become the owner) [12:22] arand: What makes you say it doesn't get built? === heninge is now known as henninge [12:23] arand: I see redeclipse-data being built, for instance. [12:23] https://edge.launchpad.net/~arand/+archive/redeclipse/+build/2565897 [12:23] It's an arch: all package. It only gets built on i386. [12:23] ...and then published everywhere. [12:23] adeuring: Hi! I am at lunch now. Can you please take over here? [12:23] henninge: sure [12:24] arand: https://edge.launchpad.net/~arand/+archive/redeclipse/+build/2565898 [12:24] arand: https://launchpad.net/~arand/+archive/redeclipse/+sourcepub/1772784/+listing-archive-extra lists them [12:24] https://launchpad.net/ | Help contact: adeuring | Launchpad is an open source project: https://dev.launchpad.net/ | This channel is logged: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ [12:25] adeuring: You forgot to prepend "/TOPIC " :) [12:25] soren: gahhh. thanks! === adeuring changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Help contact: adeuring | Launchpad is an open source project: https://dev.launchpad.net/ | This channel is logged: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ [12:26] geser: Oh, right, it's because of the arch: all :) [12:27] I assumed the dummy packages would show in the main listing, but I guess it makes sense for them not to.. [12:31] arand: "main listing"? the index pages show only source packages, you have to "expand" the source package on the +packages page to view the built binaries [12:43] Hey, is there a way to update upstream <-> Ubuntu package links? I'd like to change the one of https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/linux-linaro-mx51 to point at another series, but can't === doko_ is now known as doko === Naresh`` is now known as Naresh [12:53] lool, likely bug 796867 [12:53] Launchpad bug 796867 in Launchpad itself "Cannot modify upstream of packages I can upload in Ubuntu" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/796867 [13:01] lool: do you get any error message? [13:07] james_w: correct, thanks [13:07] adeuring: just that there is already a registered series [13:08] lool: weird... [13:08] adeuring: presumably, permission of the link object or something like that? [13:09] lool: maybe. I tried to change the link on qastaging -- works there [13:09] there is simply no remove or edit button; trying to use add again with another series fails with already registered [13:09] adeuring: odd, do you have special powers? [13:09] lool: ah, that could be the case with all the recent reorganisations around lp develeoper memberships === benji___ is now known as benji [13:20] lool: it is indeed a permissions problam, and a deliberate one: Because the packaging link affects upstream translation sharing, only package maintainers and some people with "special powers" can change an existing link. Intorduced in LP revision 12801, april this year [13:20] adeuring: but lool is a maintainer; he's core dev. [13:20] adeuring: what do you mean by 'package maintainers' precisely? [13:21] lifeless: let me check the source code... [13:21] actually its 12:20 *am* here [13:21] so I'm going to go [13:21] I have uploads power to Ubuntu and I also happen to be the registrant of linux-linaro ;-) [13:21] lifeless: it's the relase maintainer [13:21] but if it uses the 'maintainer' field or something, thats *debian* metadata and meaningless for permissions in Ubuntu [13:22] adeuring: spr.maintainer or something? [13:22] lifeless: lp.registry.model.packaging.Packaging.userCanDelete() [13:23] self.sourcepackage.currentrelease.maintainer [13:23] thats faulty then [13:23] thats letting debian maintainers garden Ubuntu metadata and excluding Ubuntu maintainers from doing it. [13:24] the was to avoid an unnecessary load by job which are triggered for translation sharing [13:24] s/the was/the idea was/ [13:24] bigjools: ^ I have to sleep, but can you help educate / point adeuring at the right way to determine 'maintains this in Ubuntu' (e.g. can upload it to O or any -proposed [13:24] adeuring: sure, the intent was fine, but the check used is looking at a meaningless field [13:25] IArchive.canUpload() [13:25] night [13:25] thanks [13:27] preferably a check that doesn't prevent people doing it when the series is frozen I guess :-) [14:03] is the lp api broken? [14:03] anyone know why my mug doesn't show up https://launchpad.net/~smoser ? its 192x192 and less than 100k. [14:03] http://paste.ubuntu.com/626553/ [14:04] just tried re-setting it (last time i set it was months ago, and i dont know that it has ever shown up) [14:06] IRC it's the 64px one that shows on your home page. The bigger one shows in galleries [14:10] hello [14:11] I need the help of a Registry Administrator to merge two teams. [14:12] debian-med and debian-med-packaging (keeping debian-med) [14:13] I tried to ask this via answers.l.net, but because I am not in the timezone of the admins there, the debian-med-packaging team is re-created before I have time to register its email address in the debian-med team. [14:13] See https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/160702 … [14:14] tumbleweed, where would i load a 64px one ? [14:15] i just uploaded via web form at https://launchpad.net/~smoser/+edit [14:15] and just now even tried as a jpg rather than png. [14:19] smoser: +branding rather than +edit [14:20] thank you, tumbleweed ... [14:20] * smoser is not good ad UIs [14:20] np === med_out is now known as medberry [14:32] charles: Hi [14:32] maxb: hi [14:32] Shall I go ahead and do the merge now? [14:33] That would be super-great ! [14:33] The merge is queued and will take effect within a few minutes [14:39] maxb: Excellent, it worked and I could claim the email address. Many thanks again. [14:40] No problem :-) [14:41] bye [14:48] ssl.SSLError: [Errno 185090050] _ssl.c:340: error:0B084002:x509 certificate routines:X509_load_cert_crl_file:system lib [14:48] using the lp api [14:48] on oneric [14:49] oh, it corresponds to an update. "Upgrade: python-httplib2:amd64 (0.6.0-5, 0.7.0-1)" [14:49] oneIric [14:50] *sigh [15:13] Hi, is it possible to totally remove a project from Launchpad? [15:13] * Quintasan could not find such option on project page [15:31] what is the appropriate way to ask that http://package-import.ubuntu.com/status/euca2ools.html be fixed ? [15:31] i'm fine losing any history that is not actually in the ubuntu archive (ie, personal changes that i probalby pushed and wreaked havoc) [15:33] maybe that is better asked in #bzr ? [15:43] smoser: emailing u-d-d@l.u.c is a good way to express interest in a particular failure [15:43] maxb, ok. thank you. [15:43] smoser: although I already looked at that one [15:44] oh? [15:44] i'm sorry for basically screwing up the imports of anything I touched [15:44] And I decided that it's a direct packager maintained branch, so the challenge is just to stop the importer sulking about that [15:45] hm, I wanted to create a project for okular, and am getting "okular is already used by another project". But https://launchpad.net/okular gives me a Lost something page [15:45] smoser: Unfortunately recent launchpad deployments have totally broken the importer :-( [15:45] bug 797088 [15:45] Launchpad bug 797088 in Ubuntu Distributed Development "Launchpad has removed privileges that UDD importer requires to function" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/797088 [15:45] maxb, ok. i will mail and just say "please re-import". [15:46] smoser: I don't think that's required [15:46] i really do like the "direct packager maintained", but really would like to be able to have both. [15:46] I think we just need to teach the importer to stop complaining in valid situations [15:46] yofel: It does that when the project has been deactivated. It's not very helpful [15:47] any way to reuse the project? I can't really rename KDEs document viewer [15:48] yofel: I've renamed the old one, go ahead and recreate [15:49] * yofel hugs maxb [15:51] maxb: Could you please kill two projects on LP? [15:51] I might be able to do something less violent to them [15:51] maxb: https://launchpad.net/decibel [15:51] maxb: https://launchpad.net/tapioca-qt [15:52] maxb: upstream said they are full of evil [15:52] and we no longer even want traces of them [15:53] Quintasan: This sounds sufficiently non-trivial that I'd like to ask for a question to be filed to document what's going on here [15:53] At first glance they appear to be plausibly valid [15:54] They appear to have Ubuntu packages and the projects are owned by a team containing active Ubuntu Developers [15:55] maxb: it is dead since 2008 at least [15:56] noone supports them and all effort moved to telepathy-kde [15:56] This is not justification to deactivate the project === charlie-tca is now known as charlie-tca1 [15:56] maxb: What would be a valid reason? [15:57] testing, not open source, generally spurious projects get deactivated [15:58] so upstream not wanting it and generally being dead and unsupported is not enough? [15:59] It makes no sense to delete all historical records of something just because it is no longer current [16:00] maxb: Okay, I'll tell upstream we are keeping it just for record [16:00] Quintasan: If the projects have ceased, ask someone in ~telepathy to update their descriptions accordingly === microcai1 is now known as microcai === lionel__ is now known as lionel [17:22] adeuring, help! https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/161415 [17:24] fta: I suspect an issue with the oneiric package. [17:25] I just tried to use lplib in natty. === abentley changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Help contact: abentley | Launchpad is an open source project: https://dev.launchpad.net/ | This channel is logged: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ [17:33] downgrading then === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch [18:09] fta, i guess that's a client side error [18:09] it would be useful if you can say on the bug which downgrades fix it if any [18:10] poolie, just python-httplib2 in reverse order [18:12] it was breaking my ppa dashboards, my ppa stats, my chromium translations and some of my other maintenance scripts, so i just reverted httplib2 [18:13] i have no time and no desire to investigate this any further. too many issues with lp for my taste. [18:13] and that fixed it? [18:13] yes [18:14] hi there, I'm subscribed to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+subscriptions and ticked the option to get notifications on bugs opened or closed - yet I only receive notifications for bugs that get closed, not the ones opened. [18:15] downgrading to which version? [18:23] poolie, the previous one, it's in my initial question [18:41] Ampelbein: I'm not sure whether it's possible to subscribe to all bugs on Ubuntu. You realize that's a torrent of bugs that you could never read all of, right? [18:42] abentley: if I subcribe to all bugs it works. it doesn't if I just want notifications of bugs added/closed. don't worry, I have enough filters in place to get me a useful overview. [18:43] Ampelbein: Okay, I'm looking for someone who can answer your question. [18:43] abentley: clarification: if I check "are added or changed in any way" it works. it doesn't if I check "are added or closed" [18:43] i filed an issue in the meantime, bug 797311 [18:43] Launchpad bug 797311 in Launchpad itself "subscription to bugs added/closed doesn't notify of bugs added" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/797311 [18:44] Ampelbein: Cool. It does sound like a bug. I wonder whether it's related to Ubuntu? [18:45] abentley: I don't know, I didn't test other projects. === joey` is now known as joey === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara === zyga is now known as zyga-afk === Ursula is now known as Ursinh === Ursinh is now known as Ursinha === medberry is now known as med_out === yofel_ is now known as yofel === med_out is now known as medberry === matsubara is now known as matsubara-afk === abentley changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Help contact: - | Launchpad is an open source project: https://dev.launchpad.net/ | This channel is logged: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan