| BUGabundo | nite | 01:07 |
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| F3ar | Any major issues that I should be aware of right away? | 02:28 |
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| elros | F3ar: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/TechnicalOverview | 09:04 |
| elros | you can expect a bumpy ride with alpha products | 09:05 |
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| zniavre | http://i.imgur.com/iEsiv.png still no icons on launcher that s a pity | 09:39 |
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| jakobmuc | will the next ubuntu release build upon unity? | 10:59 |
| ior3k | jakobmuc: yes | 11:35 |
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| Ian_Corne | empathyis annoying me to no end.. | 12:16 |
| Ian_Corne | charlie-tca: err | 12:16 |
| Ian_Corne | linux 3.0 is default now | 12:16 |
| Ian_Corne | so you might wanna be careful for that :) | 12:16 |
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| wzssyqa | Ian_Corne: is linux 3.0 work with nvidia-current now? | 12:35 |
| Ian_Corne | no | 12:36 |
| Ian_Corne | nto for me | 12:36 |
| Ian_Corne | but it would help me if you tested it too | 12:36 |
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| * zniavre is waiting for new nvidia-173 now ... | 12:43 | |
| zniavre | :o) | 12:43 |
| Ian_Corne | why such an old? | 12:45 |
| elros | nvidia and ati sometimes drop support for older chips, and I don't blame them | 12:49 |
| elros | I have radeon 9700 pro, released ~ oct 2002, support dropped in catalyst 9.4, but r300 driver still works | 12:50 |
| Ian_Corne | uhu | 12:57 |
| Ian_Corne | also, i used to see the experimental 3D support in the additional drivers | 12:59 |
| Ian_Corne | but that's gone now | 12:59 |
| zniavre | good afternoon | 14:26 |
| zniavre | i got an oneiric installation with gnome only (no unity no gnome-shell) the applications menu is empty there is a small support for gnome or not really | 14:27 |
| zniavre | ? | 14:27 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas | 14:31 |
| CardinalFang | Weird. My locales seems to be screwed up in recent Oneric. | 15:00 |
| CardinalFang | open("/usr/share/locale-langpack/en/LC_IDENTIFICATION", O_RDONopen("open("/usr/share/locale-langpack/en/LC_IDENTIFICATION", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) | 15:02 |
| CardinalFang | open("/usr/share/locaopen("open("/usr/share/locale-langpack/en/LC_IDENTIFICATION", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) | 15:03 |
| CardinalFang | Dang, pasting broken too. Sorry to mess. | 15:03 |
| CardinalFang | Will someone running current devel tip run "perl -e print\;" in a terminal, please? What happens? | 15:08 |
| CardinalFang | brb | 15:10 |
| CardinalFang | Oh, lightdm, you so crazy. | 15:19 |
| RubyG | Cardinal I had this same problem too with locales. I'm wondering if the problem is related to LightDM, cos I tried it on my Narwhal installation, then the locales got screwed up there too (tho it could just be coincidence!) | 15:20 |
| CardinalFang | It is, RubyG. I'm filing a bug. | 15:20 |
| CardinalFang | RubyG, $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm # pick gdm for now | 15:20 |
| RubyG | I googled and got it fixed dpkg-reconfigure didn't do it for me | 15:21 |
| RubyG | I had to edit a file, tho I'd need to check which one. Have you been able to fix it yourself, or have you just gone back to gdm | 15:22 |
| CardinalFang | RubyG, I haven't fixed. I switched to gdm to get work done, and planned on filing a bug, but I'm keenly interested in what file you edited. Is it in your shell history, perhaps? | 15:24 |
| RubyG | Give me a sec ... | 15:26 |
| RubyG | OK, I found this page : http://blog.andrewbeacock.com/2007/01/how-to-change-your-default-locale-on.html | 15:27 |
| RubyG | I tried various things on the page which didn't work. I *think* the solution was in the comments ... | 15:27 |
| RubyG | typing: locale-gen en_GB | 15:28 |
| RubyG | then: update-locale LANG=en_GB.ISO-8859-1 (or UTF) | 15:28 |
| RubyG | but to be honest I tried so many things that I'm not 100% certain which worked, but I found that link very helpful, and something there did solve my problem | 15:29 |
| RubyG | I'd be curious to know if there is a straight up solution, so that I'll know for the future | 15:29 |
| Ian_Corne | zniavre: frash update or? | 15:41 |
| RubyG | I installed Narwhal then upgraded from there | 15:44 |
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| CardinalFang | RubyG, https://bugs.launchpad.net/lightdm/+bug/797249 | 16:11 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 797249 in Light Display Manager "lightdm doesn't set locale correctly" [Undecided,New] | 16:11 |
| CardinalFang | brb | 16:12 |
| zniavre | Ian_Corne, not fresh it came from natty mini.iso upgraded just before alpha1 | 16:14 |
| zniavre | it's minimal gnome-core installation | 16:15 |
| Ian_Corne | hmm | 16:17 |
| Ian_Corne | and now you don't have anything installed? | 16:17 |
| zniavre | juste gnome-desktop3 | 16:17 |
| zniavre | just* | 16:17 |
| Ian_Corne | i'll go check if my gnome-classic menu is still populated | 16:17 |
| zniavre | but the menu application is still empty | 16:17 |
| Ian_Corne | I still have stuff there | 16:19 |
| zniavre | thank you | 16:19 |
| Ian_Corne | but the panels didn't even start anymore by itself | 16:19 |
| Ian_Corne | had to run gnome-panel --replace | 16:19 |
| Ian_Corne | so maybe you're just loading something different? | 16:19 |
| zniavre | it's gnomepanel too | 16:19 |
| RubyG | Thanks Cardinal, I've marked that bug as affecting me too. | 16:20 |
| zniavre | i ll try another user to see what happen maybe | 16:20 |
| Ian_Corne | k | 16:20 |
| zniavre | thank you answering | 16:21 |
| Ian_Corne | np | 16:21 |
| Ian_Corne | so, anyone had the balls yet updating to linux-3.0 with nvidia blob? :p | 16:21 |
| Ian_Corne | other then me :p | 16:21 |
| zniavre | i tried bbut im using 173.14.30 driver so it does not works anymore | 16:21 |
| Ian_Corne | how do I check which version of the driver I'm using? | 16:23 |
| Ian_Corne | *** 270.41.06-0ubuntu1 0 | 16:24 |
| Ian_Corne | ok :p | 16:24 |
| Ian_Corne | ah, ok so it doesn't choose the correct one for your system if you install current, you have to knwo to pick the old one | 16:24 |
| Ian_Corne | or is the current not displayed on old systems? | 16:24 |
| zniavre | i do not know i always install them manually without jockey | 16:25 |
| RubyG | Has anyone tried loading an .xmodmap file in Oneiric. I couldn't get mine to load on startup, though it loads fine if I launch it manually from the terminal. | 16:26 |
| CardinalFang | RubyG, I have nothing else for that bug. Please add more if I'm missing something. | 16:35 |
| yofel | Ian_Corne: already rebooted with 3? | 16:37 |
| RubyG | CardinalFang Will do. I'll have a look tonight, as I'm not at my own PC right now | 16:38 |
| elros | are there many annoying bugs in oneiric at the moment? | 16:51 |
| charlie-tca1 | of course | 16:51 |
| charlie-tca1 | There are many that annoy me a great deal | 16:51 |
| elros | how annoying? | 16:51 |
| elros | ok | 16:51 |
| elros | sound, graphics, kernel, other? | 16:52 |
| IdleOne | yes,yes,yes,yes | 16:52 |
| elros | good | 16:52 |
| elros | thought it might be good to check before upgrade | 16:52 |
| charlie-tca1 | um, it does have all those. It also seems to have bugs affecting all of them, at various degrees of annoying depending on hardware. | 16:53 |
| zniavre | Ian_Corne, with a new user the application menu still empty... | 16:54 |
| elros | because I went from oneiric back to natty about a week ago | 16:54 |
| charlie-tca1 | elros: Like that one, that zniavre has today | 16:54 |
| elros | I'll stick with natty for a month, then ask again | 16:55 |
| zniavre | i got this one since alpha1 | 17:00 |
| Ian_Corne | yofel: yes | 17:07 |
| Ian_Corne | and it doesn't work atm | 17:07 |
| yofel | :S | 17:07 |
| Ian_Corne | with nvidia blob | 17:07 |
| yofel | fails to build or..? | 17:07 |
| Ian_Corne | i didn't see the output :( | 17:07 |
| Ian_Corne | sec | 17:08 |
| yofel | what does dkms status say? | 17:08 |
| Ian_Corne | how do I check that? | 17:08 |
| yofel | nvm, just did the kernel upgrade here and it didn't build it | 17:09 |
| Ian_Corne | Ah ok :) | 17:09 |
| Ian_Corne | I'd still like to know the dkms status checking :p | 17:10 |
| yofel | yay | 17:10 |
| yofel | Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.0-0-generic (x86_64) | 17:10 |
| yofel | Consult the make.log in the build directory | 17:10 |
| yofel | /var/lib/dkms/nvidia-current/270.41.19/build/ for more information. | 17:10 |
| yofel | lol | 17:11 |
| yofel | *** Unable to determine the target kernel version. *** | 17:11 |
| dsathe | simlinks | 17:11 |
| Ian_Corne | same :p | 17:11 |
| dsathe | ol d issue | 17:11 |
| yofel | The next victim of linus's selfishness | 17:11 |
| Ian_Corne | # ls | 17:11 |
| Ian_Corne | 2.6.39-3-generic-pae build source | 17:11 |
| dsathe | how hav u installe dthe kernel ? | 17:11 |
| Ian_Corne | I just updated | 17:11 |
| yofel | dsathe: 3.0 is in the archive, and should be pulled by update now | 17:11 |
| dsathe | /etc/modules is broken simlinks if u deleted | 17:12 |
| dsathe | the src folder | 17:12 |
| yofel | dsathe: this is the package, if anyhting the packages are broken | 17:12 |
| Ian_Corne | It got pulled for me | 17:12 |
| dsathe | what u need to do is simply reinstall the headers pkg | 17:12 |
| yofel | I didn't compile anything myself | 17:12 |
| dsathe | itll make new simlinks | 17:12 |
| dsathe | O.o | 17:12 |
| dsathe | kk | 17:12 |
| dsathe | srry | 17:12 |
| yofel | linux-headers-3.0-0-generic: | 17:12 |
| yofel | Installed: 3.0-0.1 | 17:12 |
| dsathe | aaaah thts the issue | 17:13 |
| dsathe | :P | 17:13 |
| dsathe | neway use exactly the same version of headers else errors | 17:13 |
| yofel | that is the same kernel | 17:14 |
| dsathe | gave up on default ubuntu kernels a while back | 17:14 |
| dsathe | see the postinstall script of nvid current | 17:14 |
| dsathe | :P | 17:14 |
| dsathe | see if its lookin in the right places | 17:15 |
| dsathe | oh btw | 17:15 |
| dsathe | have u installed headers generic | 17:15 |
| dsathe | ??? | 17:15 |
| dsathe | 3 pkgs | 17:15 |
| yofel | I HAVE, believe, I know enough about the kernel for that | 17:15 |
| dsathe | headers image-generic and headers-generic | 17:15 |
| yofel | now I'm reading nvidia makefiles | 17:15 |
| dsathe | nvidia blob from nvid compiled with no issue on arch from aur on 3.0 | 17:16 |
| Ian_Corne | it probably does something like linux-2.6.* to determin the latest version or so | 17:16 |
| dsathe | havnt tried 3.0 on ubuntu yet | 17:16 |
| yofel | dsathe: which nvidia version? | 17:16 |
| dsathe | 270.41.xx | 17:16 |
| yofel | I would guess we just need a newer driver | 17:16 |
| dsathe | one sec | 17:16 |
| dsathe | yep | 17:16 |
| dsathe | one cme out 2day | 17:17 |
| dsathe | 275 | 17:17 |
| dsathe | try that | 17:17 |
| dsathe | :) | 17:17 |
| dsathe | 270.41.06 | 17:17 |
| dsathe | nvidia-current | 17:17 |
| dsathe | in ubuntu | 17:17 |
| dsathe | arch lemme see | 17:17 |
| IdleOne | !info gnomebaker | 17:18 |
| ubottu | Package gnomebaker does not exist in oneiric | 17:18 |
| dsathe | yep nvidia 275.09.04 | 17:18 |
| dsathe | in aur | 17:18 |
| IdleOne | WHY!? | 17:18 |
| yofel | ah, I'm on 270.41.19 | 17:18 |
| IdleOne | what happened to gnomebaker? | 17:18 |
| yofel | probably we'll need 275 | 17:19 |
| dsathe | nvidia beta all in aur | 17:19 |
| dsathe | look at the pkgbuild | 17:19 |
| dsathe | might help | 17:19 |
| dsathe | ;) | 17:19 |
| dsathe | though i have never had nvidia fails on kernel numbers must be something else but then i have never seen a major number change :P | 17:21 |
| yofel | ah yeah, nvidias conftest.sh has checks for 2.4 and 2.6 | 17:22 |
| yofel | well, me neither ^^ | 17:22 |
| Ian_Corne | silly nvidia! | 17:23 |
| Ian_Corne | :D | 17:23 |
| Ian_Corne | or maybe the 275 does have the correct checks? | 17:23 |
| yofel | I would think so, I'll get the tar and see if I can just copy the newer check over | 17:23 |
| Ian_Corne | isn't there a ppa for the new blobs? | 17:24 |
| Ian_Corne | https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates?field.series_filter=oneiric | 17:25 |
| Ian_Corne | ah not updated yet | 17:25 |
| Ian_Corne | it is a bit newer | 17:25 |
| Ian_Corne | 270.41.19-0ubuntu1~xup | 17:25 |
| dsathe | will build 3.0 on ubuntu n report back at night | 17:25 |
| dsathe | btw i am on natty | 17:26 |
| yofel | hm, no, 270 doesn't build against 3.0 :/ | 17:26 |
| dsathe | apparently plenty of new fixes in 275 for gnome 3 and kde 4.6 | 17:27 |
| dsathe | thanks for headsup yofel | 17:27 |
| yofel | also a nice error (though not the only one): | 17:27 |
| yofel | /var/lib/dkms/nvidia-current/270.41.19/build/nv-linux.h:38:4: error: #error This driver does not support development kernels! | 17:27 |
| Ian_Corne | ouch | 17:28 |
| dsathe | hahah | 17:28 |
| zniavre | http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-275.09.07-driver.html | 17:35 |
| yofel | I'm just trying to patch up a package for the newer one | 17:40 |
| * yofel needs to remember to ping Sarvatt later | 17:40 | |
| zniavre | yofel is it easy to do it (for 173.14xx too) ? | 17:46 |
| yofel | no idea, need to figure out mine first, pretty complicated scripting in the package | 17:47 |
| yofel | yay, 275 works :) | 18:25 |
| yofel | http://yofel.dyndns.org/ext/nv/ has the debs I built | 18:26 |
| yofel | Ian_Corne: ^ | 18:27 |
| IdleOne | you got nvidia working? | 18:27 |
| yofel | yep, 275 works with 3.0 | 18:27 |
| IdleOne | wow | 18:27 |
| yofel | I had to junk the modaliases scripts from the package though, so the package is useless for jockey | 18:28 |
| yofel | I'll leave that to Sarvatt :P | 18:28 |
| Ampelbein | for the record, there is bug 795562 that tracks the nvidia issue (and has a workaround/patch) | 18:28 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 795562 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu) "Dkms fails to build nvidia module for kernel 3.0-01" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/795562 | 18:28 |
| yofel | too late :P | 18:29 |
| yofel | anyway, I learnt something about nvidia packaging | 18:29 |
| yofel | and 275.09.07 is final | 18:30 |
| IdleOne | yofel: so I just get nvidia-current and install? | 18:31 |
| IdleOne | anything else I need to do? | 18:32 |
| yofel | I just installed nvidia-current with dpkg -i, the postinst hook takes care of dkms | 18:32 |
| * IdleOne will test :) | 18:32 | |
| IdleOne | hmm | 18:34 |
| IdleOne | nvidia-current-dev depends on nvidia-current (>= 275.09.07) | 18:34 |
| * IdleOne forgot to grab something | 18:34 | |
| IdleOne | I think I grabbed the wrong one heh | 18:35 |
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| Ian_Corne | thanks yofel | 18:46 |
| yofel | well, the package from edgers as it says on the bug probably works too | 18:46 |
| Ian_Corne | yofel: how come you don't have your own ppa? :) | 18:47 |
| yofel | I have a few, but that package is so hurrily hacked together that I don't want to upload it there | 18:47 |
| Ian_Corne | if I install that package, will it be updated to the official 275 when it gets in the repos? | 18:47 |
| Ian_Corne | or will it mess? | 18:48 |
| yofel | nah, I kept the official packaging with 275.09.07-0ubuntu1~yofel~oneiric | 18:48 |
| yofel | so should work fine (actually even lower than xup) | 18:48 |
| Ian_Corne | ok | 18:48 |
| Ian_Corne | lets see | 18:51 |
| Ian_Corne | has anyone else noticed that alt+tab comes up very slow with unity? | 18:51 |
| Ian_Corne | it really irritates me, and was like that in natty too | 18:51 |
| Ian_Corne | if you get the compiz ring switcher, it goes alot faster to come up | 18:52 |
| Ian_Corne | rebooting! | 18:53 |
| Ampelbein | oh, and regarding the nvidia issue: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/270.41.19-0ubuntu1 just landed in the archive so there is no need for manual intervention anymore. | 19:01 |
| Ian_Corne | no dice yofel | 19:01 |
| Ian_Corne | and i had nm troubles after the boot to 2.6.39 | 19:02 |
| Ian_Corne | and after another reboot to 2.6.39 nm works again | 19:02 |
| Ian_Corne | brr | 19:02 |
| yofel | odd | 19:02 |
| Ian_Corne | i'm on -pae | 19:02 |
| Ian_Corne | if that changes anything | 19:02 |
| Ian_Corne | but i'm looking at the log | 19:02 |
| Ian_Corne | hmm weird | 19:03 |
| Ian_Corne | 12181 Jun 14 19:55:19 iantop kernel: [ 8.331888] input: HDA NVidia HDMI/DP as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.0/0000:01:00.1/sound/card1/input11 | 19:04 |
| Ian_Corne | 12182 Jun 14 19:55:19 iantop kernel: [ 8.332117] input: HDA NVidia HDMI/DP as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.0/0000:01:00.1/sound/card1/input12 | 19:04 |
| Ian_Corne | 12183 Jun 14 19:55:19 iantop kernel: [ 8.332284] input: HDA NVidia HDMI/DP as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.0/0000:01:00.1/sound/card1/input13 | 19:04 |
| Ian_Corne | 12184 Jun 14 19:55:19 iantop kernel: [ 8.332517] input: HDA NVidia HDMI/DP as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.0/0000:01:00.1/sound/card1/input14 | 19:04 |
| Ian_Corne | is the only nvidia things I see | 19:04 |
| Ian_Corne | http://paste.ubuntu.com/626731/ | 19:06 |
| Ian_Corne | so it seems just the same? | 19:09 |
| yofel | hm, no idea, I don't have a system to check the 32bit package on | 19:10 |
| Ian_Corne | is there an empathy chat channel for the devs? | 19:12 |
| Ian_Corne | or should I just report to launchpad all my gripes? | 19:14 |
| dsathe | goddamit the empathy updates $*( the GS integration | 19:14 |
| dsathe | n i hate unity :( | 19:14 |
| Ian_Corne | you haven't given it much chance? | 19:14 |
| Ian_Corne | don't see how you can hate unity | 19:15 |
| Ian_Corne | and like gnome shell | 19:15 |
| CardinalFang | Is there a way to disable the Alt-F2 "Open prompt for executable" keybinding? I have that set to "Switch to Workspace 2", but Unity's fires anyway. | 19:32 |
| Ian_Corne | yes | 19:33 |
| Ian_Corne | ccsm | 19:33 |
| CardinalFang | Ian_Corne, I call myself looking there. | 19:38 |
| Ian_Corne | cssm -> Desktop -> Unity plugin | 19:39 |
| Ian_Corne | found it? | 19:40 |
| arif-ali | does anyone here know if the 3.0.0 kernel will be released for natty, as I know it is being done up fo rthe oneiric? | 20:33 |
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| Ian_Corne | arif-ali: i've never seen a newer kernel be introduced after a release date | 20:37 |
| Ian_Corne | there's the kernel ppa i think which you can you use | 20:37 |
| Ian_Corne | but it's not recomended, like the nvidia blob won't work and stuff | 20:37 |
| arif-ali | ah, ok, I have been using the 3.3.0, until the rc3 came out | 20:37 |
| Ian_Corne | 3.3.0? | 20:37 |
| arif-ali | soz, typo, 3.0.0 rc3 | 20:38 |
| Ian_Corne | ah | 20:38 |
| Ian_Corne | and it works for you? | 20:38 |
| Ian_Corne | http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ | 20:38 |
| arif-ali | upto rc2, main reason, I needed it for the rtl8192se driver, which does not compile well with the default natty kernel | 20:38 |
| arif-ali | yeah, that is where I downloaded it from | 20:39 |
| arif-ali | I got a new laptop with a new crappy rtl 8192 wireless chipset, so been fighting to get a driver to work correctly | 20:39 |
| Ian_Corne | hehe | 20:40 |
| arif-ali | rc2 works, but rc3 doesn't I presume it needs some deps from Oneiric | 20:40 |
| Ian_Corne | I've got a new laptop with an 'unsuported' touchapd :( | 20:40 |
| arif-ali | right, I'll continue to compile the compat-wireless then with my current kernel then, thanks for your input | 20:42 |
| arif-ali | I remember fighting in Fedora to get things working with wireless with literally every release, this is the first time in 3 years, where I've had to try and get any of my HW working in ubuntu, ubuntu has been really solid | 20:44 |
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| === Guest7918 is now known as adys` | ||
| adys` | are there working nvidia drivers for the 3.0 kernel yet? | 20:46 |
| Ian_Corne | adys`: running 64 bit service? | 20:47 |
| Ian_Corne | err system | 20:47 |
| adys` | ya | 20:48 |
| Ian_Corne | 19:26:43 < yofel> http://yofel.dyndns.org/ext/nv/ has the debs I built | 20:48 |
| Ian_Corne | it works for him | 20:48 |
| adys` | thanks | 20:48 |
| Ian_Corne | np | 20:48 |
| Ian_Corne | be sure to report back if it doesn't work :) | 20:48 |
| Ian_Corne | it didn't for my 32 bit pae kernel | 20:48 |
| Ian_Corne | and I'm to busy to actually debug and stuff | 20:48 |
| yofel | well, there should be a fixed driver in the archive soon too, 270 though | 20:49 |
| yofel | was already uploaded actually | 20:49 |
| Ian_Corne | i'm fine with 270 | 20:49 |
| Ian_Corne | :) | 20:49 |
| adys` | heres hoping the next nvidia release has 3.0 support | 20:51 |
| adys` | yofel, 275 worked, you rock | 20:55 |
| yofel | :) | 20:56 |
| Ian_Corne | :D | 20:56 |
| Ian_Corne | this makes me more curious why mine didn't work | 20:56 |
| Ian_Corne | where's buguando when you need him | 20:57 |
| Adys_ | Ian_Corne, yofel make that a worked-ish, compositing isnt launching and all | 20:58 |
| Adys_ | but i can run kdm for now which is good enough | 20:58 |
| yofel | no idea, KDE works fine for me | 20:58 |
| Adys_ | might be my install | 20:59 |
| Adys_ | im usually running off official drivers | 20:59 |
| yofel | you mean the .run? Did you remove the last with --uninstall? | 20:59 |
| Adys_ | yeah but i didnt properly cleanup i think | 21:00 |
| Adys_ | need to reinstall mesa | 21:00 |
| Adys_ | no matter | 21:00 |
| yofel | not really, nvidia ships their own glx lib | 21:00 |
| yofel | check for an abi mismatch in xorg.log rather | 21:00 |
| Adys_ | yes, which overrides mesa files | 21:00 |
| yofel | right, but the package makes sure the mesa ones are ignored | 21:00 |
| yofel | so shouldn't matter if they're broken | 21:01 |
| Adys_ | dunno; from experience, when switching from .run to debs, you need to reinstall libgl-mesa* stuff | 21:01 |
| Adys_ | that might have changed, its back from early natty alphas | 21:01 |
| yofel | for nouveau certainly, for nvidia it shouldn't matter, but good idea to do it anyway | 21:02 |
| bjsnider | the 275 blob has trouble identifying all possible matches for chips it might drive | 21:02 |
| bjsnider | so it's best to stick with the 270 at this point | 21:02 |
| Adys_ | meh, im happy to be able to run kdm right now | 21:03 |
| yofel | ah, guess I'm lucky then | 21:09 |
| Ian_Corne | :) | 21:13 |
| TheBuntu | right now im useing kernel v3.0-rc3-oneiric from .. http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ .... on 11.04..... and it seems to be doing great..... how well is oneric runing... | 21:25 |
| Ian_Corne | it's alpha-ish :) | 21:26 |
| Ian_Corne | More broken/missing then ever before for me | 21:27 |
| arif-ali | TheBuntu, did you upgrade the module-init-tools for that, i.e. updating to rc3? | 21:27 |
| arif-ali | from oneiric | 21:27 |
| TheBuntu | yes... the kertnel wouldent install with out it | 21:28 |
| arif-ali | yeah, was that the only dependancy that you needed to install, as I am running rc2 at the moment? | 21:28 |
| TheBuntu | yeah | 21:28 |
| arif-ali | cool, I will try my update again, thanks for that | 21:29 |
| TheBuntu | no prob | 21:29 |
| TheBuntu | Ian_Corne: so is it worse then 11.04 was at this point | 21:30 |
| Ian_Corne | eum, I thinks so | 21:30 |
| Ian_Corne | but i don't think i tried unity early enough | 21:30 |
| TheBuntu | i use kde | 21:30 |
| Ian_Corne | ah, i've never tested with kde | 21:30 |
| Ian_Corne | yofel does use KDE i think | 21:31 |
| genii-around | Yes, they do | 21:31 |
| arif-ali | a kde, I was just goin to say that I tried gnome3 from PPA on natty, and didn't lilke the look-and-feel | 21:31 |
| yofel | kubuntu still works reasonably fine since we don't have 4.7 yet, and probably won't have it soon | 21:32 |
| Ian_Corne | except NM problems, right?. | 21:32 |
| TheBuntu | gnome 3 useing youtube.... video playback is alot better...with its new hardware stuff | 21:32 |
| yofel | we have a new NM plasmoid snapshot now, works reasonably well if you just need a wireless connections | 21:33 |
| yofel | the settings behave a bit odd sometimes, and some freeze plasma | 21:33 |
| arif-ali | TheBuntru, ok, cool, anyway to move to classic mode in gnome 3 like moving from unity? | 21:33 |
| TheBuntu | i used kde 4.7 in arch and arch had problems with it.... used 4.7 in chakra witch is arch base... and it was perfect | 21:35 |
| TheBuntu | so whats the best way to do the upgrade.... konsole or the gui tool | 21:38 |
| yofel | do-release-upgrade and update-manager do the same thing, so it doesn't matter | 21:40 |
| TheBuntu | do-release-upgrade... the cli update-manager do is the update gui | 21:42 |
| Ian_Corne | except yofel , that your X might crash or something while doing the upgrade | 21:43 |
| Ian_Corne | :) | 21:43 |
| yofel | really? | 21:43 |
| TheBuntu | so better to do it from cli | 21:43 |
| Ian_Corne | i've had it happen :p | 21:44 |
| yofel | ah, for ubuntu maybe with their login manager changes | 21:44 |
| yofel | kubuntu isn't close to lightdm than a theme mockup yet | 21:44 |
| yofel | *closer | 21:44 |
| TheBuntu | so what you mean by that | 21:46 |
| yofel | well, far away | 21:48 |
| TheBuntu | sudo do-release-upgrade.... Checking for a new ubuntu release No new release found | 21:48 |
| yofel | you need to add -d | 21:49 |
| yofel | for devel release | 21:49 |
| TheBuntu | sudo do-release-upgrade-d | 21:49 |
| yofel | with a space, it's a flag | 21:49 |
| TheBuntu | sudo do-release-upgrade -d | 21:50 |
| yofel | right | 21:50 |
| Ian_Corne | :D | 21:50 |
| TheBuntu | having var/apt/cach backed up on a spare partition makes it easyer for when something goes wrong with alpha... go back to stable realease and on apt-get dit-upgrade.... you dont have to download. everything.... just reinstalls the updates | 21:56 |
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| BUGabundo | evening | 22:06 |
| BUGabundo | if im allowed a bitttttt of offtopic, let me ask you this, just for fun | 22:08 |
| BUGabundo | can you tell me how much storage you have at home / where you are? | 22:08 |
| maco | 3 closets | 22:08 |
| IdleOne | hahaha | 22:09 |
| Ian_Corne | hey BUGabundo | 22:09 |
| IdleOne | 990G with 400 or so used | 22:09 |
| BUGabundo | maco: :) | 22:09 |
| CarlFK | all my homes added or averaged? | 22:10 |
| Ian_Corne | 3.6TB | 22:10 |
| BUGabundo | try again in binary | 22:10 |
| Ian_Corne | BUGabundo: | 22:10 |
| BUGabundo | CarlFK: total, please | 22:10 |
| maco | including backup drives? | 22:10 |
| IdleOne | hmm including backup drives I have around 2.5TB | 22:10 |
| CarlFK | does this count as part of home: 5.5T 4.5T 1.1T 81% /home/juser/rawvid | 22:11 |
| maco | 500, 250, 250, 120, 120, 16... umm...1.25TB ish, plus flash drives | 22:11 |
| Ian_Corne | CarlFK: i think he means at your house | 22:11 |
| CarlFK | Ian_Corne: oh, so including the drives that are sitting on a shelf ? | 22:11 |
| Ian_Corne | i dunno, ask BUGabundo :p | 22:12 |
| BUGabundo | CarlFK: I am | 22:12 |
| CarlFK | I think I could come up with 20T | 22:12 |
| BUGabundo | I'm even counting camara flash | 22:12 |
| BUGabundo | lol | 22:12 |
| BUGabundo | CarlFK: JIZZAS!!! | 22:12 |
| CarlFK | raw video = 13G / hour. I get around. | 22:13 |
| BUGabundo | yeah | 22:13 |
| IdleOne | CarlFK: you realize you don't have to back up every single website you visit | 22:13 |
| BUGabundo | I have about 4T in front of me | 22:13 |
| Ian_Corne | hehe | 22:13 |
| BUGabundo | plus the new 8t | 22:13 |
| BUGabundo | plus all drives around and on other PCs | 22:13 |
| BUGabundo | plus flash drives , ssd, mmc, sd, µsd | 22:14 |
| BUGabundo | man, its going to take me a week lol | 22:14 |
| IdleOne | I should count my old computers I left in the US also in that case | 22:14 |
| yofel | hm, counting all PCs, ~6TB | 22:14 |
| yofel | 2 of that is backup though | 22:14 |
| BUGabundo | IdleOne: those aren't at home | 22:14 |
| CarlFK | home is where the heart is | 22:15 |
| IdleOne | they are in my old home | 22:15 |
| IdleOne | CarlFK: +1 | 22:15 |
| BUGabundo | CarlFK: home is where ppl think about you | 22:15 |
| CarlFK | aww, that makes me warm and fuzzy | 22:15 |
| IdleOne | anyway, Voyager is on. | 22:15 |
| Ian_Corne | :) | 22:15 |
| Ian_Corne | I'm wathcing TNG | 22:15 |
| CarlFK | home is where you watch Voyager | 22:15 |
| zniavre | http://i.imgur.com/I46Vz.png check out this bug ! that is my first time like that | 22:22 |
| BUGabundo | ahahha | 22:23 |
| zniavre | :o) | 22:23 |
| CarlFK | zniavre: that's the Australian mode | 22:23 |
| zniavre | 11.10 + gnome3 + compiz + nouveau | 22:24 |
| RRRRube | LOL | 22:24 |
| zniavre | CarlFK, +1 | 22:24 |
| BUGabundo | CarlFK: ahaahaaha | 22:24 |
| BUGabundo | zniavre: wfm, sorry | 22:24 |
| zniavre | what is wfm please ? | 22:25 |
| maco | "works for me" | 22:25 |
| zniavre | ho | 22:25 |
| yofel | "creative"... | 22:25 |
| zniavre | i see on change mailing list the old 173.14.30 nvidia driver are updated to be installed with 3.0 kernel i hope it will solve this | 22:27 |
| Ian_Corne | lol what the hell :D | 22:29 |
| Ian_Corne | hwo does that even happen :D | 22:30 |
| zniavre | i do not know | 22:30 |
| Ian_Corne | that looks like something wow would have happen after an update | 22:30 |
| zniavre | i re-installed nvidia-173 maybe that s the cause , im using right now nouveau driver | 22:31 |
| zniavre | removing them solved the "thing"... :o) | 22:34 |
| zniavre | i saw update-alternative stuff for open-gl im thinking it's the causes | 22:35 |
| BUGabundo | and how many of you EVER upgraded a firmware of a single disk? | 22:42 |
| zicada | hehe | 22:45 |
| yofel | I upgraded a DVD writer firmware once, but never a HDDs firmware (not counting SSDs) | 22:45 |
| zicada | hmm | 22:46 |
| BUGabundo | yofel: ohhh my precious 107D | 22:46 |
| BUGabundo | it took more FWs then burning DVDs lol | 22:46 |
| yofel | lol | 22:47 |
| Ian_Corne | BUGabundo: I never have | 22:47 |
| BUGabundo | and I totally forgot to upgrade my SSD fw | 22:51 |
| BUGabundo | there have been 4 releases :( | 22:51 |
| BUGabundo | will dd the drive and upgrade it then restore | 22:51 |
| BUGabundo | $ sudo aptitude install smartmontools | 22:57 |
| BUGabundo | The following NEW packages will be installed: | 22:57 |
| BUGabundo | bsd-mailx{a} postfix{a} smartmontools | 22:57 |
| BUGabundo | LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL | 22:57 |
| Ian_Corne | weird dependencies | 23:01 |
| ikonia | BUGabundo: please stop it | 23:01 |
| BUGabundo | ikonia: ? it's a bad depency set | 23:03 |
| BUGabundo | if any one confirms it, ill file a bug | 23:04 |
| ikonia | BUGabundo: the LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL stuff | 23:04 |
| ikonia | BUGabundo: you've been here long enough to know that sort of stuff is not needed | 23:04 |
| BUGabundo | its damn funny set of depencies, don't you agree? | 23:04 |
| ikonia | BUGabundo: I'm not interested in if it's funny - please stop with the LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL stuff | 23:04 |
| zicada | ja og det var en kul exploit | 23:16 |
| BUGabundo | !german | 23:17 |
| ubottu | In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis. | 23:17 |
| Ian_Corne | I think that's swedisch | 23:18 |
| Ian_Corne | at least nto german :) | 23:18 |
| bjsnider | BUGabundo, i would guess that the mail system would be required to send email alerts to the system administrator | 23:33 |
| BUGabundo | I guess | 23:33 |
| BUGabundo | but still overload | 23:33 |
| bjsnider | it's more of an enterprise feature, where you have one admin looking after dozens or hundreds of systems | 23:33 |
| bjsnider | needless to say that's not an ubuntu situation | 23:34 |
| Ian_Corne | ubuntu server maybe? | 23:34 |
| bjsnider | ubuntu is primarily built as a desktop o/s, whereas fedora and suse are not | 23:35 |
| bjsnider | desktop users to not commonly read email alerts from their own systems | 23:35 |
| Ian_Corne | I agree, but there's still ubuntu server, which uses the same packages | 23:36 |
| Ian_Corne | no? | 23:36 |
| bjsnider | yes | 23:37 |
| bjsnider | but all this is inherited from debian | 23:37 |
| BUGabundo | so | 23:39 |
| BUGabundo | should we request that depency to cease? | 23:40 |
| ikonia | you can't do that as it would break the server setup from a useful stand point | 23:45 |
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| === barackobama is now known as maurer_ | ||
| BUGabundo | do we keep kernel traces? | 23:49 |
| BUGabundo | my system just locked when disconecting and unmounted usb hard drive | 23:49 |
| BUGabundo | never happened before | 23:49 |
| BUGabundo | could be a 3.0 bug | 23:49 |
| BUGabundo | gpartedbin: ../../libparted/arch/linux.c:2958: linux_disk_commit: Assertion `_have_blkpg ()' failed. | 23:52 |
| BUGabundo | oh well | 23:53 |
| BUGabundo | time to start crunshing bugs | 23:53 |
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