| head_victim | sagaci: pong | 05:23 |
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| sagaci | head_victim, ping | 05:24 |
| head_victim | What can I do for you | 05:24 |
| head_victim | I'm letting my mind simmer down before replying to the latest post to the forum :D | 05:26 |
| gorilla | Hi All, I'm trying to connect to icq using emapthy 2.30.3.. is anyone else having trouble?? if not, what's the server name that you have connected connected to? | 07:35 |
| head_victim | ICQ still exists? Cool! | 07:36 |
| gorilla | head_victim: don't ask why. I suggested that we implemnet an internal jabber server... that didn't go well :-/ | 07:37 |
| head_victim | Bug 676060 ? | 07:38 |
| lubotu2 | Launchpad bug 676060 in Empathy "Cannot connect to ICQ (dup-of: 675903)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/676060 | 07:38 |
| lubotu2 | Launchpad bug 675903 in pidgin (Ubuntu) "pidgin ICQ connection error" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/675903 | 07:38 |
| blahdeblah | gorilla: What would be wrong with an internal jabber server? I run openfire for mine, and it pretty much rocks. | 07:38 |
| head_victim | gorilla: or a long link http://live.gnome.org/Empathy/FAQ#I_can.27t_connect_to_my_AIM.2BAC8-ICQ_account_anymore | 07:39 |
| gorilla | blahdeblah: just management doesn't want me or anyone else to sped time on it. | 07:39 |
| blahdeblah | To run up a Debian or Ubuntu VM with openfire would take about 1 hour. | 07:39 |
| gorilla | blahdeblah: that's the official reason.. personally I think it's more that management don't want to run another client on their machines.... I looove the politics in this place. | 07:41 |
| gorilla | Nope.. looks like I have a different issue. | 07:55 |
| blahdeblah | gorilla: That's understandable to a point: the more software you install, the more software you have to upgrade/configure/troubleshoot | 08:28 |
| blahdeblah | ICQ is pretty old school, though | 08:28 |
| gorilla | blahdeblah: yeah.. but interactions with software is a pain in general. | 09:12 |
| head_victim | sagaci: you never said what you wanted before | 14:07 |
| sagaci | I don't think I wanted anything | 14:07 |
| sagaci | can't remember why I pinged | 14:07 |
| head_victim | Fair enough, just thought I'd check :) | 14:07 |
| head_victim | You did well the other night at the meeting btw, allowed discussion but kept it on topic | 14:09 |
| sagaci | still went over time due to extra topics | 14:10 |
| head_victim | Yeah that will happen. | 14:10 |
| fabricator4 | Evening everyone | 14:10 |
| head_victim | Gday fabricator4 | 14:10 |
| head_victim | sagaci: one way around it could be to suggest that those topics that hadn't been brought up on the mailing list prior be rescheduled until the next meeting. Except I only thought of that just now. | 14:11 |
| sagaci | head_victim, ever thought about screencasting tutes/tips for youtube or similar | 14:12 |
| head_victim | Me? I don't think I'm good enough for that but if you were just talking about the idea it does sound useful. | 14:12 |
| sagaci | well it's how I learned and got enthused about linux/ubuntu | 14:13 |
| head_victim | Ah see I just blundered along with google by my side ;) | 14:14 |
| somethinginteres | thank goodness for Google. :) | 14:14 |
| sagaci | eww, text | 14:14 |
| fabricator4 | +10 for Google | 14:14 |
| head_victim | I actually bought a book on linux system admin and that's how I'm teaching myself all about it | 14:15 |
| head_victim | Taking me too long to find time to dedicate to it though | 14:15 |
| head_victim | I could set up my server in an afternoon if I had to but the thing is I'm trying to learn "the correct way" to do things because I want this one to eventually be connected to the net so I want it secure as well. | 14:16 |
| fabricator4 | Set up a server regardless, then learn by what you did wrong, THEN set it up the right way. | 14:16 |
| fabricator4 | I don't know about anyone else, but I learn more from my mistakes than by reading a book. | 14:17 |
| head_victim | Oh I've set it up before as quick as I could and yeah it worked sort of. | 14:17 |
| sagaci | head_victim, which one | 14:17 |
| sagaci | i mean, what book | 14:17 |
| head_victim | I much rather working through a book, I make sure there are no holes in my knowledge that way. | 14:18 |
| head_victim | I recently found small gaps in my knowledge that I didn't even know existed by following proper documentation | 14:18 |
| head_victim | http://www.apress.com/9781430219125 | 14:19 |
| fabricator4 | Linux is like that. The moment you start think you know something... | 14:19 |
| head_victim | The thing is I'm not in the IT field so a lot of "assumed" knowledge in my case is missing. | 14:19 |
| sagaci | head_victim, not the official ubuntu server book? | 14:20 |
| head_victim | I wanted something distro agnostic, just in case. | 14:20 |
| sagaci | ubuntu dies :o? | 14:20 |
| fabricator4 | :-) | 14:21 |
| head_victim | Or I find myself on someone else's system that is *insert random distro here* and am not complete lost | 14:21 |
| head_victim | I just keep hoping one of these days an online university somewhere in Aus will put up some RHCE and Cisco stuff into a grad dip for me. | 14:23 |
| sagaci | i doubt it | 14:25 |
| head_victim | Heh the only catch my workplace has in educating people for free is that it has to be university level. | 14:26 |
| sagaci | there are unis that do majors in rhel but not the rhce specifically | 14:26 |
| head_victim | I can dream :D | 14:27 |
| sagaci | i wish canonical revamped their cert so it'd actually mean something | 14:27 |
| head_victim | Goddamnit. | 14:30 |
| head_victim | I just reinstalled my natty vm and updated to proposed and now trash is called trash again. | 14:30 |
| head_victim | Hmm the lines still appear correct in the unity package. | 14:32 |
| fabricator4 | The joys of distributed development. I haven't looked at the alpha yet... any big differences? | 14:34 |
| head_victim | Hah I'm an idiot I don't think I set up the locale correct. | 14:38 |
| head_victim | To me that's a bit weird though, surely when it suggests your time and date in the installation it should set up the locale as well | 14:38 |
| fabricator4 | Bug? | 14:38 |
| head_victim | I'd have to check to see if it's not already reported, discussed and rejected for some reason I hadn't thought ofyet | 14:39 |
| head_victim | I asked the question and was told "just because you live in a location doesn't mean you speak that language, also some locations have multiple languages so it generally uses the keyboard layout more than the location" | 15:28 |
| head_victim | Which is fair enough | 15:28 |
| fabricator4 | Fair enough. I think. :-) | 15:30 |
| head_victim | Yeah, at least I got a response :D | 15:30 |
| fabricator4 | I'm about to download the the alpha. It's about time I had a look at it. | 15:32 |
| fabricator4 | I just replied to the thread on the forum. I felt it necessary to say something. I'm not sticking my hand in a hornet's nest am I? Probably... | 15:34 |
| head_victim | Yeah he's a pretty disruptive sort, he created a lot of tension in the team at the time of the last reapproval | 15:37 |
| head_victim | I'm not quite exactly sure how to deal with him but I've contacted the council about his behaviour so he doesn't derail the team's efforts. | 15:38 |
| head_victim | ANd I have to be awake in 4 hours so I'm going to head to bed I think. | 15:39 |
| fabricator4 | sleep, what's that? :-) | 15:41 |
| head_victim | Heh goodnight mate, have a good one if you're still here in 4 hours I'll see you then. | 15:41 |
| fabricator4 | Goodnight! | 15:42 |
| somethinginteres | fabricator4: I've thought about installing the alpha in a VM (never used an alpha before) but I like surprise of using it for the first time on release and VMs to my knowledge use emulated hardware vs my actual hardware so I wouldn't be able to notice hardware regressions. | 15:48 |
| fabricator4 | Yes, I normally install the alphas and betas in a separate partition. This works OK but is not as convenient... | 15:49 |
| fabricator4 | I've become a big fan of VirtualBox since installing it a few weeks ago. I think I'll install it the alpha in VB this time around. | 15:50 |
| fabricator4 | This box is having compatibility issues with new releases: the graphics cards just aren't up to it. I'm not sure the VB emulation will work, seeing as how the video systems I have are deficient. It will be interesting to find out. | 15:52 |
| fabricator4 | The alphas can be quite exciting. Broken, buggy, but fun. The problem with running in a VM is that bug reporting wrt actual hardware is not possible. At some point you have to run it on a real machine to get real world results for testing purposes. | 15:55 |
| somethinginteres | fabricator4: yeah | 16:07 |
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