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clarkthehardy910I really can't get to the terminal on boot, its my first boot after fresh install00:13
clarkthehardy910can someone help me?00:13
clarkthehardy910GUI display settings are out of range for my old monitor00:14
kristian-aalborgso this is "interesting"... I can only use sound as SU00:35
EnjoyTheSilenceI need help setting up Tor with XChat.02:11
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ecritejrthank you Corey03:15
Coreyecritejr: Yay.03:15
ecritejrdo i still need to email that person you told me to?03:15
Coreyecritejr: Urm... I don't recall telling you to email anyone?03:16
ecritejryes kline@freenode.net03:16
Coreyecritejr: That was for another user.03:17
ecritejrOhhhh hahahaha03:17
ecritejrmaybe you might know off the top of your head03:17
ecritejrWhen I log into Ubuntu regular desktop I have no taskbar or status bar03:18
ecritejrjust 4 icons i created and none of the keyboard shortcuts work except for termanal03:19
Coreyecritejr: I'd ask in #ubuntu03:19
Coreyecritejr: Except you have to use a real IRC client instead of the web gateway to ask there.03:19
Corey19:19:38 -!- Irssi: Quiet against *!*@gateway/web/freenode/* matches ecritejr!c9a0bacd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.201.160.186.20503:20
Corey19:19:38 -!- Irssi: There are 1 issues that might be preventing ecritejr from joining/talking in #ubuntu03:20
ecritejrokay thank you my friend.03:20
clarkthehardy910Is there a way to get the grub prompt right after a fresh wubi.exe install on an XP machine? I just installed Unity and i'm running into Out of Range error on my dated monitor, immediately after choosing Ubuntu on the boot menu.05:53
bioterrorno idea about the wubi05:58
clarkthehardy910Can a dual booting 11.04 (installed from wubie.exe) and XP access safemode? I've tried what the posts suggested: shift and esc, but no avail. I just need to change Ubuntu's default refresh rates for my old monitor to display it.06:05
Screwhi all10:50
coalwaterhi Screw11:04
Screwwhat are you doing?11:05
s-foxHello.14:47
coalwaterhello s-fox15:26
s-foxHello coalwater .15:26
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s-foxttfn18:18
davidhurwich_hello everyone18:31
CoreyHello.18:32
davidhurwich_i have a very newbie question18:32
davidhurwich_i updated to 11.0418:33
davidhurwich_but under my networking i cant seem to find local wireless networks anymore18:33
davidhurwich_i used to be able to under 10.0418:33
davidhurwich_do i need to install a driver or something of that nature?18:34
escottdavidhurwich_, possible, what kind of wireless do you have?18:34
davidhurwich_you mean the router?18:34
escottdavidhurwich_,  no the card. run lspci in your terminal18:35
davidhurwich_am i looking for the the network controller?18:36
davidhurwich_or SMbus?18:38
escottdavidhurwich_, yes you could also try sudo lshw -c network18:38
escottdavidhurwich_, would give you a bit less to scan through18:38
davidhurwich_hold on, gtg any answer a phone call, appreciate your help18:39
davidhurwich_hi escott im back18:52
davidhurwich_it says -network unclaimed18:52
davidhurwich_network controller18:53
davidhurwich_BCM4311 80.211b/g18:53
escottdavidhurwich_, so thats broadcom18:53
escott!broadcom18:53
ubot2Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx18:53
davidhurwich_thanks18:54
escottdavidhurwich_, follow that if those drivers are already installed check rfkill18:54
davidhurwich_how'se does one get to the system option on 11.0418:58
davidhurwich_it seems hidden unlike the old 10.0418:58
escottdavidhurwich_, just go to the upper left corner and type in keywords18:58
escottdavidhurwich_, the applications no longer have places you just find them by keyword which can be its purpose or part of its name or ...18:59
davidhurwich_so im under the driver section of the hardware19:01
davidhurwich_it says me driver is installed and running19:01
davidhurwich_then why cant my computer detect wireless networks? :( sad panda19:04
escottdavidhurwich_, run rfkill list19:06
davidhurwich_it says Wireless Lan19:06
davidhurwich_soft blocked: no19:06
davidhurwich_hard blocked: no19:06
escottok. and what happens when you click on the network icon in the upper right19:08
davidhurwich_there is an option for my ethernet cable19:08
davidhurwich_but it does not pick up wireless hosts like it use too under 10.0419:09
escottdavidhurwich_, !paste the output of iwconfig19:10
davidhurwich_lo - no wireless extensions19:12
davidhurwich_eth0 - no wireless extensions19:12
escottdavidhurwich_, it doesnt mention wlan0? thats very confusing. I would reinstall the broadcom drivers19:14
escottim not sure what happened, and im not too familiar with broadcom. you might see if someone has had the same problem on #ubuntu19:14
davidhurwich_should i remove it through the drivers menu under system > driver first?19:15
escottprobably a good idea19:16
davidhurwich_thanks for your help escott19:16
davidhurwich_i appreciate it19:16
escottwhen you do a release upgrade you get a different kernel and maybe there is something incompatible there. reinstalling drivers is sometimes necessary19:17
davidhurwich_sounds good19:17
davidhurwich_should i reinstall the driver through the system>driver menu>19:21
davidhurwich_?19:21
tigerplug292greetings20:20
tigerplug292I am having an issue. Running 11.04, resized the partition using gparted and booted & used my system since.20:26
tigerplug292then tried installing Windows XP on the newly created partition, the install failed but now I can't boot to windows - I get "no bootable device" or similar20:26
tigerplug292so now I'm on live 7.10 , is it possible to repair from this liveCD?20:26
celthundertigerplug292: yeah should be20:27
escottyes follow the chroot method20:27
escott!grub | tigerplug29220:27
ubot2tigerplug292: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)20:27
celthundertigerplug292: make a chroot in the livecd, then modprobe dm-mod;grub_bios-install --boot-directory=/boot --no-floppy --recheck /dev/sda20:28
celthundertigerplug292: obviously change /dev/sda to the mbr you wnat grub on20:28
celthundertigerplug292: that's also assuming bios machine not eufi or whatever20:29
celthunderescott: i miss anything there?20:30
escottcelthunder, tigerplug292 the bind mounts20:32
escottwhich is part of the whole chroot process20:33
escotti think thats always the most confusing to people but thats it20:33
celthunderescott: i said make a chroot20:33
celthundermount /dev/sda<rootpartition>/ /tmp20:33
escottcelthunder, why use grub_bios-install instead of grub-install20:33
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escottcelthunder, have we confirmed what version of grub tigerplug292 is using20:34
celthunderescott: he said 220:34
celthunderbut the livecd has legacy so he can't just grub root (hd0,0) setup(hd0,0)20:34
celthunderwell he could...but he would be stuck unable to boot again20:35
celthundermount /dev/sda<bootpartition> /tmp/boot20:35
escottcelthunder, thats why he should use the chroot, that way he is using his installed systems version of grub-utils20:36
celthundermount -t proc proc /tmp/proc20:36
escottwhich is grub220:36
celthunderescott: i said use a chroot i think you missd that part...i'm typing out the chroot cmmands now20:36
celthundermount -t sysfs sys /tmp/sys20:36
celthundermount -o bind /dev /tmp/dev20:36
celthunderchroot /tmp /bin/bash20:36
celthunderassuming of course he has a 64 bit /64 bit or 32/32 bit livecd/install20:37
celthunderif not then it gets harder...20:37
celthunderwell a 54 bit livecd on a 32 bit install would be alright20:37
celthundercause he could juse add the librariees to the livecd as needed20:37
celthunderand that shouldn't be necessary if his processor doesn't suck20:38
celthundertigerplug292: how's it going20:38
* celthunder stops talking to himself20:39
tigerplug292celthunder: escott sorry20:39
tigerplug292celthunder: escott so I have downloaded the 11.04 ISO20:39
tigerplug292and I have a USB flash drive20:40
tigerplug292but wondering how i can make is bootable while on the LiveCD?20:40
escotttigerplug292, ok... if you want you could do that. its not strictly necessary, but maybe easier if the chroot makes you uncomfortable20:40
celthundertigerplug292: also for your usb question dd if=<iso> of=/dev/<usbdev>20:41
tigerplug292escott: well - I'll chance anything :-D but I'm not so great on the CLI20:41
celthundertigerplug292: don't use a partition just the device itself should work fine (aka /dev/sdb)20:41
escotttigerplug292, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#ChRoot20:41
tigerplug292checking20:41
escottits up to you, whatever method feels most comfortable to you20:41
celthunderescott: i just typed it all out in here...20:42
celthunderor at least if he's got a normal grub install that's all he should have to do20:42
tigerplug292celthunder: escott guessing SDA5? http://pastebin.com/cLvYFy7T20:43
escotttigerplug292, yes you would chroot into sda5 and then grub-install onto /dev/sda20:44
tigerplug292escott: well it wont mount - root@ubuntu:~/Desktop# sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/20:44
tigerplug292mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda5,20:44
tigerplug292       missing codepage or helper program, or other error20:44
tigerplug292       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try20:44
tigerplug292       dmesg | tail  or so20:44
Dan1981Hello is this the place to get beginners noobie help with ubuntu? :)20:45
escotttigerplug292, run sudo fsck /dev/sda520:45
bioterrorDan1981, correct place20:45
escotttigerplug292, you actually dont need the sudo because you are already root20:45
tigerplug292escott: guessing thats like a chkdsk equiv?20:45
escotttigerplug292, yes20:46
tigerplug292escott: "fsck.ext3: Filesystem has unsupported feature(s) while trying to open /dev/sda520:46
tigerplug292"20:46
escottahhh forgot how old that livecd was20:46
escotttigerplug292, you need a new livecd sorry20:46
escotttigerplug292, your partition is ext4 which is not supported by 7.10 livecd20:47
tigerplug292escott: well I have the iso, and a usb drive, its possible to create bootable usb from CLI?20:47
tigerplug292ah I see20:47
tigerplug292well - thanks for your help so far. I think I'll have to go try get booting from a current image20:47
bioterrortigerplug292, grab arch linux's iso20:47
escotttigerplug292, yes http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download20:47
bioterrortigerplug292, you can dd it20:47
tigerplug292escott: I have it downloaded20:47
escotttigerplug292, it has instructions on creating a bootable usb20:48
tigerplug292escott: ah sorry , let me look again20:48
Dan1981Okies.. very new ubuntu user here ( loving linux though ) i'm looking for someone to help me run my animated desktop at start? Can anybody help? i'm using 11.04 :)20:49
tigerplug292escott: nope, dont have that feature on 7.1020:49
escotttigerplug292, although that may not work for you either because the 7.10 install cd is older than the startup disk creator20:49
tigerplug292bioterror - why do you recommend that?20:49
escotttigerplug292, maybe rescue linux has a good way to create a usb stick20:49
bioterrortigerplug292, as I said, you can use dd20:49
tigerplug292bioterror: dd ?20:49
escotttigerplug292, try http://www.sysresccd.org/Sysresccd-manual-en_How_to_install_SystemRescueCd_on_an_USB-stick20:49
kristian-aalborghi all20:50
tigerplug292escott: I found a cd lying around labelled Ubuntu - gonna try boot from it and hope its 10.x20:50
bioterrorbut I'm not taking part in this now20:50
kristian-aalborghow do I disable the output from a program run in the terminal?20:50
bioterrorDan1981, what you had in your mind?20:50
tigerplug292brb20:51
kristian-aalborgI tried foo > dev/null but that is not enough20:51
bioterrorkristian-aalborg, if it has -q or -quiet variable, use it20:51
kristian-aalborgbioterror, ah, yes... should have thought of that20:51
Dan1981i managed to get a programme call xwinwrap installed on my linux.. it makes a animated background.. i've managed to get the a-desk script to run at start but i cant get it to choose a video automatically,.. FYI heres a link to what i'm talking about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIbJ5S3PUJc20:52
Dan1981Help!! :)20:53
Dan1981I think i need to create a script but havent the foggiest how to even start with creating one ..20:54
bioterrorsorry but I've not seen anything that horrible for a while :D20:55
Dan1981horrible? :(20:57
kristian-aalborgDan1981, there's a desktop environment called enlightenment that will do that20:57
escottDan1981, the hardest part of that is usually to get nautilus out of the way to even draw on the root desktop. have you been successful at that20:58
bioterrorI bet all those butterflys will make concentrating difficult, plus that following magic cursor starts to annoy in about an hour or two20:58
Dan1981i right click on desktop and go run script and select a-desk then i manually choose what video i want.. at startup i managed to get a-desk to run at start ( i basically  browsed to the a-desk icon ) but i would love for it to automatically choose one of my videos :(#20:59
kristian-aalborgDan1981, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPauJXNUPrI&feature=related21:00
escottDan1981, well if you have a command that will play a video, just create a folder called "bin" in you home directory, then create a file called desktop_movie.sh21:00
kristian-aalborgalso, Dan1981 - are you a "new" user?21:00
escottand in that file say #!/bin/bash and on the next line whatever the command you wnat21:01
bioterrorplus they want money for that adesk21:01
escottDan1981, finally save that file and run chmod +x ~/bin/desktop_movie.sh21:01
escottDan1981, and add that script to your gnome-session21:01
Dan1981whoa.. well confused here at the moment.. so i got to my home folder and right click and create a folder called 'bin' first?21:02
Dan1981*go21:02
escottDan1981, yes good practice is for all your scripts to go in that folder21:03
Dan1981Okies done.. created folder called bin21:03
escottDan1981, then create a text file21:03
bioterrorescott, why not /usr/local/bin/ ?21:03
escottbioterror, because root owns that21:04
Dan1981I sthat right click and choose create document?21:04
escottDan1981, yes a text document21:04
Dan1981okies a black piece of paper sort of thing has appeared21:05
escottfirst line is called the shebang "#!/bin/bash"21:05
escottthe second line is whatever command you use to get adesk to play the video you want21:05
Dan1981so i type in "#!/bin/bash"21:06
escottjust the part inside the quotes not the quotes themselves21:06
Dan1981lol ok..21:06
Dan1981the sceond line i didnt use any command, i browsed the startup manager and found the a-desk script? is there a way i can type that?21:07
tigerplug292escott: I found a 9.x cd, booted from it and followed the instructions21:08
escottDan1981, if you know the path use the full path /whatever/the/path/was/to/adesk21:08
tigerplug292but, when I boot now I just get a "grub_sh" prompt - if that makes any sense?21:08
tigerplug292escott: but Now I have usbcreator on this live image - so gonna create bootable natty21:08
escotttigerplug292, ok but if the chroot was successful then you shouldnt need to worry21:09
escotttigerplug292, did you get any errors during the chroot?21:09
tigerplug292escott: well - it accepted the commands but didn't work21:09
tigerplug292let me step through it again right now21:09
tigerplug292escott: so I've mounted fine, now running sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda5 ?21:11
escotttigerplug292, don't use --root-directory inside the chroot21:12
escotttigerplug292, a couple things are off with that21:12
tigerplug292escott: I dont get ya - can you tell me the command? s21:12
escotttigerplug292, so you have the chroot right? and can you confirm it is correct. check that ls /home shows your files and not the livecd21:12
tigerplug292so if I cd /mnt21:12
tigerplug292then ls -la21:12
tigerplug292I can see the contents of my disk21:13
escotttigerplug292, no the chroot is only valid for one terminal session, when you close the terminal it fails21:13
escotttigerplug292, so open a terminal21:13
tigerplug292okay, im not sure I understand21:13
tigerplug292okay open21:13
tigerplug292and then ?21:13
escotttigerplug292, you can skip th mount commands because those have been done21:13
tigerplug292okay21:13
escotttigerplug292, run sudo chroot /mnt21:13
escotttigerplug292, then "ls /home" and see if it shows your folder21:14
tigerplug292escott: okay - gotcha - I can see my stuff in there21:14
tigerplug292now21:14
escotttigerplug292, run "grub-install /dev/sda"21:14
escotttigerplug292, not /dev/sda5 just /dev/sda21:14
tigerplug292escott: " /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?)."21:15
escotttigerplug292, open a new terminal21:15
tigerplug292okay21:15
escotttigerplug292, in the new terminal run "sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev"21:15
escotttigerplug292, then go back to the other terminal and try again21:15
tigerplug292okay, waiting for it to execute21:16
tigerplug292escott: should take some time?21:16
tigerplug292for the grub-install that is?21:17
tigerplug292escott: okay - installation finished with no errors21:17
tigerplug292so thats it?21:17
tigerplug292:-)21:17
escotttigerplug292, a few seconds maybe21:17
escotttigerplug292, then try rebooting21:17
tigerplug292escott: thanks gonna try now21:17
tigerplug292brb21:17
tigerplug292I hope! :-D21:17
tigerplug292escott, that did the job - thanks so much!21:23
Dan1981Escott are you still here.. my internet went down and i had to restart! :(21:25
tigerplug292whats the best way to dual boot XP with Ubuntu installed first?21:29
tigerplug292I have 10GB of unallocated space21:29
bioterrortigerplug292, XP first, then Ubuntu21:29
tigerplug292bioterror, a MUST ?21:29
tigerplug292:-(21:29
bioterrortigerplug292, it's a suggested and less painless way21:30
bioterroras you noticed21:30
escotttigerplug292, one problem may be that your entire drive is extended21:30
tigerplug292escott, well I did use gparted to shrink the ext21:30
escottwindows may not like being installed on a an extended partition21:30
tigerplug292escott, so there should be 10GB unallocated21:30
tigerplug292that I can format NTFS21:30
tigerplug292damn windows - I dont even want it - a REQUIREMENT for some software that I have to run21:31
tigerplug292I think I'll go with virtualbox21:31
Dan1981escott are you busy?21:31
escottDan1981, go ahead21:32
Dan1981lol hello.. my internet crashed.. you was helping me with my startup script remember?21:33
escottyes did you finish the script21:34
Dan1981no sorry i'm on the second line it reads "dan/Animated Background/bin/a-desk_EN" does that seem okay?21:34
escottDan1981, /home/dan/...21:35
Dan1981oh okay so i start with /home?21:35
escottyes21:35
Dan1981okay so thats the scond line done..21:36
Dan1981what do i need to put on the 3rd line?21:36
Dan1981i imagine get it to point to a video?21:36
tigerplug292escott, thanks btw21:37
escottDan1981, i dont know adesk you'll have to figure that out21:37
escotttigerplug292, np21:37
Dan1981oh okay...21:38
Dan1981but it'll definetly be something to do with creating a text document thingy? ( all well confusing )21:38
escottDan1981, you have to figure out what commands to send adesk and put in that file21:39
Dan1981oh okay.. its all getting rather complicated.. i wont bother i'll end up breaking it.. thanks for tryingto help me though21:40
tenachIs there a way to upgrade a machine from 10.04 to 11.04 without having to install 10.10?22:04
tenachI do not have the luxury to back up the home dir and other settings, otherwise I'd do a fresh install.22:05
escotttenach, not a supported way22:07
tenachescott: hm, okay.22:07
tenachWhat would be an effective way to back up a user's files/22:07
tenachThis is a single-user laptop that I'm upgrading.22:07
tenachI thought that just tarballing the /home/user/ dir, but am not sure if that's the best.22:08
escotttenach, sure tarball or rsync to another machine22:09
tenachAh, okay.22:09
tenach:D22:09
tenachThank you escott22:09
tenachI've not had to do it this way before.22:09
raubvogelIf you start screen and then run minicom inside screen, how to you quit minicom?22:41
bioterrorctrl+z q22:43
bioterroror what was it22:43
bioterrorhave not used minicom for a while22:43
Unit193raubvogel: You could just kill the window with Ctrl+a k22:45
bioterrornot suggesting22:46
raubvogelUnit193, if I kill the window, would the device still being used by the usb-to-serial cable be freed?22:46
Unit193Might be best to hangup first or22:46
bioterroryes22:46
bioterrorjust a moment22:47
Unit193raubvogel: You should be able to change the keys (I know I can...)22:47
bioterrorchecking minicom22:47
bioterrorI gave my all suns agaway22:47
bioterroraway22:47
bioterrorso I dont need terminal any more :D22:47
raubvogelCan I change keys from within screen?22:47
Unit193Start it with -s option22:48
raubvogelUnit193, as in screen -rs?22:49
bioterrorhmmm22:49
bioterrorctrl-a x22:49
bioterrorit will reset22:49
raubvogelctrl-a x seems to lock the screen session and asks for a password22:50
Unit193minicom -s (sudo if you want to change the default)22:50
bioterrorha22:50
bioterrorraubvogel, is there a reason why you need to run it under screen?22:50
zkriesseCTRL a k lol that's hilarious, Ak as in ak47 :P22:51
raubvogelbioterror, not really. I did not realize I could connect to the serial port using screen22:51
raubvogelso using minicom here was an uneeded step22:51
bioterrorminicom is good for serial connections22:51
raubvogelBut screen can do that too22:52
raubvogelso I can have one session connected to the serial device (in my case a seagate dockstar or a router) while the other sessions are doing something else22:52
jimmie_Does anyone know how I can stop my pendrives appearing in the unity bar?23:09
holsteinjimmie_: this is relevant23:24
holsteinhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/72386523:24
ubot2Ubuntu bug 723865 in unity-2d "When a new storage device is inserted it should only appear in the Launcher." [Low,Confirmed]23:24
holsteinAFAIK, you cant customize unity much yet, like hiding mounted volumes23:24
holsteinit'll come though23:24
davidhurwich__hello everyone23:32

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