| micahg | chrisccoulson: fun bug, I get a global menu in one window on Firefox and a regular menu in the second, filing a bug now :) | 02:56 |
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| micahg | ugh, but it's not reproducible... | 03:03 |
| fta2 | micahg, OOM on radon | 07:48 |
| fta2 | seriously, that's the 6th, can't they just check the whole bunch? | 07:49 |
| micahg | fta2: I filed a ticket asking for just that, the others should be fixed, I'll mention this one by name | 07:50 |
| fta2 | thanks | 07:51 |
| micahg | fta2: BTW, wgrant said your chromium channels branch should be fixed hopefully w/in a day | 07:51 |
| fta2 | he said it now depends on a LOSA | 07:52 |
| fta2 | damn, wireshark is broken | 08:18 |
| micahg | well, it's the .0 release :) | 08:19 |
| micahg | ok, I really need some sleep... | 08:20 |
| fta2 | .0 ? | 08:21 |
| micahg | 1.6.0 | 08:21 |
| fta2 | hm, i have a mix of 1.4.6 and 1.6.0 | 08:22 |
| micahg | ah, that could be the problem then, the libraries are properly SONAME versioned upstream now | 08:23 |
| micahg | I'll will rebuild the rdepends later if no one beats me to it and the old libraries should be dropped from the archive then | 08:24 |
| * micahg -> bed | 08:24 | |
| fta2 | i just get a dbus error | 08:24 |
| fta2 | good night | 08:25 |
| micahg | :( | 08:26 |
| micahg | well, FYI, works for me, so idk, maybe it's using the wrong library if you have a mixture, I don't have any of the old ones installed, if something didn't upgrade right, please file a bug and feel free to subscribe me | 08:28 |
| * micahg is really going to bed now :) | 08:29 | |
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| fta | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2078881/ubuntu-ship-firefox-1204 | 18:59 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmm, that's news to me | 19:02 |
| chrisccoulson | i honestly thought we would be switching to chromium, based on my feelings from UDS ;) | 19:03 |
| chrisccoulson | most people there were using it, and quite a lot of people seem to favour that too | 19:04 |
| chrisccoulson | we'd struggle with CD space though ;) | 19:04 |
| chrisccoulson | although, firefox is rapidly catching up with chromium on install size now | 19:04 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: well, there was an interview with sabdfl that came out yesterday that said Firefox until past the LTS | 19:04 |
| chrisccoulson | ah, ok. i didn't see that | 19:04 |
| micahg | firefox is still 20MB slimmer | 19:05 |
| chrisccoulson | i was fully expecting to go to the next UDS and decide to switch to chromium ;) | 19:05 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg, it's catching up, fast | 19:05 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: they won't make that change in the LTS | 19:05 |
| chrisccoulson | well, 12.10 then ;) | 19:05 |
| chrisccoulson | the current firefox trunk nightlies are nearly 4MB bigger (unpacked) than the current beta | 19:06 |
| fta | i'm most concerned about the use of chrome vs chromium in this article | 19:06 |
| fta | -most+more | 19:06 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - i've not read the article, which is why i'm surprised that we're sticking with firefox for the LTS ;) | 19:07 |
| fta | if the post is correct, there's no point in maintaining chromium | 19:08 |
| fta | i can just do it for myself, and move it to less conservative grounds | 19:08 |
| Dimmuxx | any way to increase the time history is remembered in chromium yet? | 19:08 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - i wouldn't say that. the article makes it clear that the decision will be reviewed after the LTS ;) | 19:09 |
| micahg | fta: also, most of the references to Chrome are in comparison to Firefox in market share which is appropriate | 19:09 |
| chrisccoulson | and nearly everyone at UDS was using chromium (i peered over a lot of peoples shoulders) ;) | 19:09 |
| chrisccoulson | although, i guess that the UDS crowd is not really representative | 19:10 |
| Dimmuxx | I would consider switching if it was possible to store the history at least 6 months instead of just one month | 19:10 |
| micahg | Dimmuxx: I don't see an option in 12 yet, at least in preferences | 19:12 |
| chrisccoulson | 12? you run such outdated software ;) | 19:14 |
| chrisccoulson | next you will be telling me that you still have firefox 5! | 19:14 |
| micahg | I run current on my dev laptop, on my xubuntu oneiric, I have 14 and Firefox 7 | 19:14 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: I do on my dev natty laptop along with unity :) | 19:14 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: so, I ran into bug 779905, but can't reliably reproduce | 19:15 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 779905 in firefox "when sessionmanager restors a session with more than one winow, only the first window gets a global menu" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/779905 | 19:15 |
| chrisccoulson | i've never been able to reproduce that | 19:15 |
| fta | Dimmuxx, i see at least 90 days of history here | 19:16 |
| fta | Dimmuxx, M14 | 19:16 |
| chrisccoulson | hmm, i've got history from september 2010 | 19:16 |
| chrisccoulson | same version as fta ;) | 19:16 |
| Dimmuxx | fta: maybe they increased it then, it was about a month last I tried it | 19:17 |
| fta | maybe it depends on how you access your history | 19:17 |
| Dimmuxx | or maybe it depends on how much you use it, if you haven't used chromium in a couple of weeks it might be removed or something | 19:17 |
| fta | just did a search for "ubuntu" in mine, ~90 days | 19:17 |
| Dimmuxx | ah so maybe it stores it in ctrl+h | 19:19 |
| Dimmuxx | but it doesn't popup in the url bar like it does in firefox | 19:19 |
| Dimmuxx | because ctrl+h contains more than 1 year | 19:20 |
| Dimmuxx | maybe there is an extensions for this :P | 19:21 |
| fta | Dimmuxx, remember the history in chromium also contains the pages' contents, it's much more than just the url and title, so it grows very fast | 19:24 |
| fta | that may explain why i just have 90 days, i use it a lot | 19:25 |
| Dimmuxx | well that's no good then :/ | 19:25 |
| fta | wow, liferea 1.7.* is way faster than our 1.6 | 19:28 |
| * micahg wonders if that's due to gtk3 port/cleanup | 19:29 | |
| fta | nope, sqlite | 19:29 |
| fta | http://liferea.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=liferea/liferea;a=blob_plain;f=ChangeLog;hb=master | 19:30 |
| micahg | ooh, I've forgotten about sqlite since I stopped tracking it since we stopped using it in Firefox | 19:32 |
| fta | really? what is ff using nowadays? | 19:33 |
| micahg | sqlite, but it's bundled | 19:34 |
| fta | oh, like chromium then | 19:34 |
| micahg | yeah, so I don't particularly care about system sqlite since xulrunner will be dead soon in Ubuntu | 19:34 |
| fta | ff just needs to move to webkit and it will be an exact copy ;) | 19:35 |
| micahg | heh, webkit is only a rendering engine, they'd need to replace the networking stuff as well | 19:35 |
| fta | pff https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-httplib2/+question/161415 | 19:53 |
| micahg | fta: well, at least it's Critical :) | 19:55 |
| fta | if it was the only regression... | 19:56 |
| fta | another one: bug 797323 | 19:56 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 797323 in ecb "package ecb 2.40+cvs20110608-1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/797323 | 19:56 |
| fta | another one is the nvidia-current /w kernel 3.0.0 dkms | 19:57 |
| fta | i'm not even mentioning all those caused by lightdm | 19:58 |
| fta | and the indicator abi breakage | 19:58 |
| micahg | fta: nvidia was just uploaded | 20:14 |
| micahg | lightdm 0.4.0 is coming | 20:14 |
| * micahg doesn't know about the indicators | 20:14 | |
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| fta | it's spreading: http://www.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-20071079-92/chrome-may-become-ubuntus-browser/ | 21:15 |
| BUGabundo | evening | 22:06 |
| BUGabundo | would you guys endure a small question: can you tell me how much storage you have at home / where you are? | 22:08 |
| fta | no enough | 22:10 |
| fta | not | 22:10 |
| BUGabundo | ahah | 22:10 |
| BUGabundo | how much? | 22:10 |
| fta | about 1.5T | 22:14 |
| BUGabundo | really? | 22:15 |
| BUGabundo | I have that in only one drive | 22:15 |
| BUGabundo | LOL | 22:15 |
| fta | that's why i said not enough | 22:15 |
| fta | that's 2 drives here | 22:15 |
| BUGabundo | :( | 22:20 |
| BUGabundo | so my new 4x2T NAS upsets you a bit right? | 22:20 |
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| fta | not really, i'm looking for less h/w, less noise, less heat | 22:29 |
| BUGabundo | this are WD Green | 22:32 |
| BUGabundo | 5400RPM disks | 22:32 |
| BUGabundo | I barrely hear them out of the box next to me | 22:32 |
| BUGabundo | now set them to SMART 1 or 64 | 22:32 |
| BUGabundo | and you are good to go | 22:32 |
| BUGabundo | on standby, this synology is set to use 13W | 22:32 |
| BUGabundo | 35W in usage | 22:33 |
| BUGabundo | and a max power of 200W | 22:33 |
| BUGabundo | and how many of you EVER upgraded a firmware of a single disk? | 22:42 |
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