[02:56] chrisccoulson: fun bug, I get a global menu in one window on Firefox and a regular menu in the second, filing a bug now :) [03:03] ugh, but it's not reproducible... [07:48] micahg, OOM on radon [07:49] seriously, that's the 6th, can't they just check the whole bunch? [07:50] fta2: I filed a ticket asking for just that, the others should be fixed, I'll mention this one by name [07:51] thanks [07:51] fta2: BTW, wgrant said your chromium channels branch should be fixed hopefully w/in a day [07:52] he said it now depends on a LOSA [08:18] damn, wireshark is broken [08:19] well, it's the .0 release :) [08:20] ok, I really need some sleep... [08:21] .0 ? [08:21] 1.6.0 [08:22] hm, i have a mix of 1.4.6 and 1.6.0 [08:23] ah, that could be the problem then, the libraries are properly SONAME versioned upstream now [08:24] I'll will rebuild the rdepends later if no one beats me to it and the old libraries should be dropped from the archive then [08:24] * micahg -> bed [08:24] i just get a dbus error [08:25] good night [08:26] :( [08:28] well, FYI, works for me, so idk, maybe it's using the wrong library if you have a mixture, I don't have any of the old ones installed, if something didn't upgrade right, please file a bug and feel free to subscribe me [08:29] * micahg is really going to bed now :) === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley [18:59] http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2078881/ubuntu-ship-firefox-1204 [19:02] hmmm, that's news to me [19:03] i honestly thought we would be switching to chromium, based on my feelings from UDS ;) [19:04] most people there were using it, and quite a lot of people seem to favour that too [19:04] we'd struggle with CD space though ;) [19:04] although, firefox is rapidly catching up with chromium on install size now [19:04] chrisccoulson: well, there was an interview with sabdfl that came out yesterday that said Firefox until past the LTS [19:04] ah, ok. i didn't see that [19:05] firefox is still 20MB slimmer [19:05] i was fully expecting to go to the next UDS and decide to switch to chromium ;) [19:05] micahg, it's catching up, fast [19:05] chrisccoulson: they won't make that change in the LTS [19:05] well, 12.10 then ;) [19:06] the current firefox trunk nightlies are nearly 4MB bigger (unpacked) than the current beta [19:06] i'm most concerned about the use of chrome vs chromium in this article [19:06] -most+more [19:07] fta - i've not read the article, which is why i'm surprised that we're sticking with firefox for the LTS ;) [19:08] if the post is correct, there's no point in maintaining chromium [19:08] i can just do it for myself, and move it to less conservative grounds [19:08] any way to increase the time history is remembered in chromium yet? [19:09] fta - i wouldn't say that. the article makes it clear that the decision will be reviewed after the LTS ;) [19:09] fta: also, most of the references to Chrome are in comparison to Firefox in market share which is appropriate [19:09] and nearly everyone at UDS was using chromium (i peered over a lot of peoples shoulders) ;) [19:10] although, i guess that the UDS crowd is not really representative [19:10] I would consider switching if it was possible to store the history at least 6 months instead of just one month [19:12] Dimmuxx: I don't see an option in 12 yet, at least in preferences [19:14] 12? you run such outdated software ;) [19:14] next you will be telling me that you still have firefox 5! [19:14] I run current on my dev laptop, on my xubuntu oneiric, I have 14 and Firefox 7 [19:14] chrisccoulson: I do on my dev natty laptop along with unity :) [19:15] chrisccoulson: so, I ran into bug 779905, but can't reliably reproduce [19:15] Launchpad bug 779905 in firefox "when sessionmanager restors a session with more than one winow, only the first window gets a global menu" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/779905 [19:15] i've never been able to reproduce that [19:16] Dimmuxx, i see at least 90 days of history here [19:16] Dimmuxx, M14 [19:16] hmm, i've got history from september 2010 [19:16] same version as fta ;) [19:17] fta: maybe they increased it then, it was about a month last I tried it [19:17] maybe it depends on how you access your history [19:17] or maybe it depends on how much you use it, if you haven't used chromium in a couple of weeks it might be removed or something [19:17] just did a search for "ubuntu" in mine, ~90 days [19:19] ah so maybe it stores it in ctrl+h [19:19] but it doesn't popup in the url bar like it does in firefox [19:20] because ctrl+h contains more than 1 year [19:21] maybe there is an extensions for this :P [19:24] Dimmuxx, remember the history in chromium also contains the pages' contents, it's much more than just the url and title, so it grows very fast [19:25] that may explain why i just have 90 days, i use it a lot [19:25] well that's no good then :/ [19:28] wow, liferea 1.7.* is way faster than our 1.6 [19:29] * micahg wonders if that's due to gtk3 port/cleanup [19:29] nope, sqlite [19:30] http://liferea.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=liferea/liferea;a=blob_plain;f=ChangeLog;hb=master [19:32] ooh, I've forgotten about sqlite since I stopped tracking it since we stopped using it in Firefox [19:33] really? what is ff using nowadays? [19:34] sqlite, but it's bundled [19:34] oh, like chromium then [19:34] yeah, so I don't particularly care about system sqlite since xulrunner will be dead soon in Ubuntu [19:35] ff just needs to move to webkit and it will be an exact copy ;) [19:35] heh, webkit is only a rendering engine, they'd need to replace the networking stuff as well [19:53] pff https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-httplib2/+question/161415 [19:55] fta: well, at least it's Critical :) [19:56] if it was the only regression... [19:56] another one: bug 797323 [19:56] Launchpad bug 797323 in ecb "package ecb 2.40+cvs20110608-1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/797323 [19:57] another one is the nvidia-current /w kernel 3.0.0 dkms [19:58] i'm not even mentioning all those caused by lightdm [19:58] and the indicator abi breakage [20:14] fta: nvidia was just uploaded [20:14] lightdm 0.4.0 is coming [20:14] * micahg doesn't know about the indicators === yofel_ is now known as yofel [21:15] it's spreading: http://www.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-20071079-92/chrome-may-become-ubuntus-browser/ [22:06] evening [22:08] would you guys endure a small question: can you tell me how much storage you have at home / where you are? [22:10] no enough [22:10] not [22:10] ahah [22:10] how much? [22:14] about 1.5T [22:15] really? [22:15] I have that in only one drive [22:15] LOL [22:15] that's why i said not enough [22:15] that's 2 drives here [22:20] :( [22:20] so my new 4x2T NAS upsets you a bit right? === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away [22:29] not really, i'm looking for less h/w, less noise, less heat [22:32] this are WD Green [22:32] 5400RPM disks [22:32] I barrely hear them out of the box next to me [22:32] now set them to SMART 1 or 64 [22:32] and you are good to go [22:32] on standby, this synology is set to use 13W [22:33] 35W in usage [22:33] and a max power of 200W [22:42] and how many of you EVER upgraded a firmware of a single disk?