[02:56] <micahg> chrisccoulson: fun bug, I get a global menu in one window on Firefox and a regular menu in the second, filing a bug now :)
[03:03] <micahg> ugh, but it's not reproducible...
[07:48] <fta2> micahg, OOM on radon
[07:49] <fta2> seriously, that's the 6th, can't they just check the whole bunch?
[07:50] <micahg> fta2: I filed a ticket asking for just that, the others should be fixed, I'll mention this one by name
[07:51] <fta2> thanks
[07:51] <micahg> fta2: BTW, wgrant said your chromium channels branch should be fixed hopefully w/in a day
[07:52] <fta2> he said it now depends on a LOSA
[08:18] <fta2> damn, wireshark is broken
[08:19] <micahg> well, it's the .0 release :)
[08:20] <micahg> ok, I really need some sleep...
[08:21] <fta2> .0 ?
[08:21] <micahg> 1.6.0
[08:22] <fta2> hm, i have a mix of 1.4.6 and 1.6.0
[08:23] <micahg> ah, that could be the problem then, the libraries are properly SONAME versioned upstream now
[08:24] <micahg> I'll will rebuild the rdepends later if no one beats me to it and the old libraries should be dropped from the archive then
[08:24]  * micahg -> bed
[08:24] <fta2> i just get a dbus error
[08:25] <fta2> good night
[08:26] <micahg> :(
[08:28] <micahg> well, FYI, works for me, so idk, maybe it's using the wrong library if you have a mixture, I don't have any of the old ones installed, if something didn't upgrade right, please file a bug and feel free to subscribe me
[08:29]  * micahg is really going to bed now :)
[18:59] <fta> http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2078881/ubuntu-ship-firefox-1204
[19:02] <chrisccoulson> hmmm, that's news to me
[19:03] <chrisccoulson> i honestly thought we would be switching to chromium, based on my feelings from UDS ;)
[19:04] <chrisccoulson> most people there were using it, and quite a lot of people seem to favour that too
[19:04] <chrisccoulson> we'd struggle with CD space though ;)
[19:04] <chrisccoulson> although, firefox is rapidly catching up with chromium on install size now
[19:04] <micahg> chrisccoulson: well, there was an interview with sabdfl that came out yesterday that said Firefox until past the LTS
[19:04] <chrisccoulson> ah, ok. i didn't see that
[19:05] <micahg> firefox is still 20MB slimmer
[19:05] <chrisccoulson> i was fully expecting to go to the next UDS and decide to switch to chromium ;)
[19:05] <chrisccoulson> micahg, it's catching up, fast
[19:05] <micahg> chrisccoulson: they won't make that change in the LTS
[19:05] <chrisccoulson> well, 12.10 then ;)
[19:06] <chrisccoulson> the current firefox trunk nightlies are nearly 4MB bigger (unpacked) than the current beta
[19:06] <fta> i'm most concerned about the use of chrome vs chromium in this article
[19:06] <fta> -most+more
[19:07] <chrisccoulson> fta - i've not read the article, which is why i'm surprised that we're sticking with firefox for the LTS ;)
[19:08] <fta> if the post is correct, there's no point in maintaining chromium
[19:08] <fta> i can just do it for myself, and move it to less conservative grounds
[19:08] <Dimmuxx> any way to increase the time history is remembered in chromium yet?
[19:09] <chrisccoulson> fta - i wouldn't say that. the article makes it clear that the decision will be reviewed after the LTS ;)
[19:09] <micahg> fta: also, most of the references to Chrome are in comparison to Firefox in market share which is appropriate
[19:09] <chrisccoulson> and nearly everyone at UDS was using chromium (i peered over a lot of peoples shoulders) ;)
[19:10] <chrisccoulson> although, i guess that the UDS crowd is not really representative
[19:10] <Dimmuxx> I would consider switching if it was possible to store the history at least 6 months instead of just one month
[19:12] <micahg> Dimmuxx: I don't see an option in 12 yet, at least in preferences
[19:14] <chrisccoulson> 12? you run such outdated software ;)
[19:14] <chrisccoulson> next you will be telling me that you still have firefox 5!
[19:14] <micahg> I run current on my dev laptop, on my xubuntu oneiric, I have 14 and Firefox 7
[19:14] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I do on my dev natty laptop along with unity :)
[19:15] <micahg> chrisccoulson: so, I ran into bug 779905, but can't reliably reproduce
[19:15] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 779905 in firefox "when sessionmanager restors a session with more than one winow, only the first window gets a global menu" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/779905
[19:15] <chrisccoulson> i've never been able to reproduce that
[19:16] <fta> Dimmuxx, i see at least 90 days of history here
[19:16] <fta> Dimmuxx, M14
[19:16] <chrisccoulson> hmm, i've got history from september 2010
[19:16] <chrisccoulson> same version as fta ;)
[19:17] <Dimmuxx> fta: maybe they increased it then, it was about a month last I tried it
[19:17] <fta> maybe it depends on how you access your history
[19:17] <Dimmuxx> or maybe it depends on how much you use it, if you haven't used chromium in a couple of weeks it might be removed or something
[19:17] <fta> just did a search for "ubuntu" in mine, ~90 days
[19:19] <Dimmuxx> ah so maybe it stores it in ctrl+h
[19:19] <Dimmuxx> but it doesn't popup in the url bar like it does in firefox
[19:20] <Dimmuxx> because ctrl+h contains more than 1 year
[19:21] <Dimmuxx> maybe there is an extensions for this :P
[19:24] <fta> Dimmuxx, remember the history in chromium also contains the pages' contents, it's much more than just the url and title, so it grows very fast
[19:25] <fta> that may explain why i just have 90 days, i use it a lot
[19:25] <Dimmuxx> well that's no good then :/
[19:28] <fta> wow, liferea 1.7.* is way faster than our 1.6
[19:29]  * micahg wonders if that's due to gtk3 port/cleanup
[19:29] <fta> nope, sqlite
[19:30] <fta> http://liferea.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=liferea/liferea;a=blob_plain;f=ChangeLog;hb=master
[19:32] <micahg> ooh, I've forgotten about sqlite since I stopped tracking it since we stopped using it in Firefox
[19:33] <fta> really? what is ff using nowadays?
[19:34] <micahg> sqlite, but it's bundled
[19:34] <fta> oh, like chromium then
[19:34] <micahg> yeah, so I don't particularly care about system sqlite since xulrunner will be dead soon in Ubuntu
[19:35] <fta> ff just needs to move to webkit and it will be an exact copy ;)
[19:35] <micahg> heh, webkit is only a rendering engine, they'd need to replace the networking stuff as well
[19:53] <fta> pff https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-httplib2/+question/161415
[19:55] <micahg> fta: well, at least it's Critical :)
[19:56] <fta> if it was the only regression...
[19:56] <fta> another one: bug 797323
[19:56] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 797323 in ecb "package ecb 2.40+cvs20110608-1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/797323
[19:57] <fta> another one is the nvidia-current /w kernel 3.0.0 dkms
[19:58] <fta> i'm not even mentioning all those caused by lightdm
[19:58] <fta> and the indicator abi breakage
[20:14] <micahg> fta: nvidia was just uploaded
[20:14] <micahg> lightdm 0.4.0 is coming
[20:14]  * micahg doesn't know about the indicators
[21:15] <fta> it's spreading: http://www.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-20071079-92/chrome-may-become-ubuntus-browser/
[22:06] <BUGabundo> evening
[22:08] <BUGabundo> would you guys endure a small question: can you tell me how much storage you have at home / where you are?
[22:10] <fta> no enough
[22:10] <fta> not
[22:10] <BUGabundo> ahah
[22:10] <BUGabundo> how much?
[22:14] <fta> about 1.5T
[22:15] <BUGabundo> really?
[22:15] <BUGabundo> I have that in only one drive
[22:15] <BUGabundo> LOL
[22:15] <fta> that's why i said not enough
[22:15] <fta> that's 2 drives here
[22:20] <BUGabundo> :(
[22:20] <BUGabundo> so my new 4x2T NAS upsets you a bit right?
[22:29] <fta> not really, i'm looking for less h/w, less noise, less heat
[22:32] <BUGabundo> this are WD Green
[22:32] <BUGabundo> 5400RPM disks
[22:32] <BUGabundo> I barrely hear them out of the box next to me
[22:32] <BUGabundo> now set them to SMART 1 or 64
[22:32] <BUGabundo> and you are good to go
[22:32] <BUGabundo> on standby, this synology is set to use 13W
[22:33] <BUGabundo> 35W in usage
[22:33] <BUGabundo> and a max power of 200W
[22:42] <BUGabundo> and how many of you EVER upgraded a firmware of a single disk?