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ghoulmannmorning10:21
MrChrisDruifAloha ghoulmann10:25
ghoulmannhey there. how is it going?10:25
MrChrisDruifStudying for an exam, you?10:26
ghoulmannstudying as well. independent study. and listening to killer groove.10:26
MrChrisDruifIndependent as in just for yourself or something? Every study is for yourself right?10:31
ghoulmannthis is for me, yes. critical theory (philosophy)10:31
ghoulmanntrying to develop a course from it.10:34
ghoulmannlooking for primary texts.10:34
MrChrisDruifCritical theory...sounds very interesting :D10:36
ghoulmanni thrive on it. intensely political reading of culture - literature, film, et al.10:36
MrChrisDruifDid a quick search on it and still sounds pretty interesting :)P10:39
MrChrisDruif-P10:39
ghoulmannis that ironic? looks ironic :)10:40
MrChrisDruif:)P should be :)10:42
ghoulmannwhat are you studying? and with how much urgency? :)10:42
MrChrisDruifSoftware Engineer and if I don't make this exam I'll flunk this study...10:47
ghoulmannwell, sincerely, good luck. You'll ace it.10:47
MrChrisDruifThanks for you illusion :)10:48
ghoulmanni'm nothing if not confident in my community.10:49
MrChrisDruifI might have made a kickass quicklist < http://www.webupd8.org/2011/06/unity-quicklists-to-add-remove.html > but that doesn't mean I fabulous with those exams :P10:51
ghoulmannkcik ass. i'm reblogging. stop being distracted!10:52
NRWlionhi there11:31
akgranerhi all I'm working on re-assigning ownership of the teams today may require some lp help but I'll figure it out15:34
akgranersorry I've been away - strep kicked my a@# last week15:35
akgranerpleia2, thanks for all the RT tickets15:35
* nigelb hugs akgraner 15:44
nigelbakgraner: Get some rest, really :)15:44
akgranerI am   - just wanted to get this taken care off15:44
akgranerthen deactived my membership on all the teams, but you all can still has me questions if you need to know the historical reason for doing something15:45
akgranerI think at this stage of the came so the team will not be identified with me but with you all as a whole and as a team that is the responsible thing to do15:46
akgranerso bac on the LP team has to do some digging b/c it's not letting him change the ownership for the teams either...he's diggging into and will help get it all worked out15:50
* nigelb hugs akgraner 15:53
nhandlerakgraner: Have you seen the hilights from this channel by any chance?16:49
nhandlerakgraner: We need some additional people granted moderator access on the UWN forum, and it would be nice if you could update the gdoc to the newer format and/or transfer ownership16:53
akgranernhandler, I'll do both :-)   who do you want me to added as moderators17:50
akgranerfor the forums17:50
nhandlerakgraner: Who has been publishing so far? Me, akgraner, highvoltage? That should probably be fine17:51
akgranerok...once there is a leadership team in place all on  the leadership team should be added as well17:52
akgranerI'll add holstein too as I know he was wanting to help more as well...if that is ok with you all?17:53
pleia2sounds good17:57
akgranerpleia2, are you already added?17:58
akgranerjust added Technoviking if he could add those listed above...17:59
akgranerso I needed to make Ubuntu-news in LP  restricted since it will own restricted teams17:59
akgranerthat just means anyone who applies to Ubuntu-news will get accepted18:00
akgranerit's an LP thing18:00
pleia2akgraner: no, I don't need to be added18:00
pleia2the others are plenty :)18:00
akgranerok thanks18:00
nhandlerakgraner: Wait, so how are you restructuring the LP teams/18:00
akgranerso ubuntu news will own the fridge and uwn18:01
akgranerand until a news team is elected the community team will be listed as owners of the news team18:01
akgranerit's nothing really except linking them all together  - Fridge editors (restricted and UWN moderated will automatically belong to ubuntu news18:03
nhandlerakgraner: That might get a bit funky. That means that essentially any member of either the fridge or UWN team is an owner of the team18:03
akgranerbut since anyone wanting to join ubuntu-news can not just be members of those two teams it will need to restrcited but we just approve dthose who want to join ubuntu-news18:03
akgranerNO it doesn't18:04
akgranerubuntu-news owns fridge and uwn18:04
nhandlerAnd fridge and UWN are currently members of ubuntu-news18:04
akgranerand once a leadership team is in place it will own news18:04
akgraneryes18:04
akgraneror they should be18:04
akgranerand will be18:05
nhandlerSo a member of UWN has membership in ubuntu-news, so if ubuntu-news is set as the owner of a team, that person has the privileges that go along with it18:05
akgranerno18:05
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akgraner   how do I explain it18:05
akgranerlet me get an lp person to explain why it has to be this way18:06
akgranercan you just trust me to set this up...then as a leadership team you all can do what ever you want to with it18:07
nhandlerakgraner: Go ahead18:07
akgranerright now nothing is connected and makes sense and these are teams that do not need to be associated with individuals but with ubuntu news as a whole18:08
akgranerthis is hard18:08
akgranerI'll get an LP person with the right language to explain it so that you'll understand18:09
akgranerif an open team owns restricted teams then anyone on the open team has full rights to the restricted team18:09
akgranerbut if you restrict the team then you decided which team they will ultimately  have access too18:10
akgranerlp is great for development teams and projects but not great for team management18:10
akgraner*sigh*18:11
nhandlerRestricting the team simply means that an admin of the team needs to approve all join requests18:11
nhandlerMake the change, and I'll show you what I mean18:11
akgraneryes, but you are only granting accesss to the one team not to the subteams18:11
akgranerI know what you mean18:11
akgranerbut that's the only way right now to make ubuntu-news owner18:11
akgranerit just means clicking yes..UW does that and and so does the NC loco team...or at least we used to who knows what has changed in two weeks :-)18:13
akgranerjust to make sure before I change anything  - I am double checking with bac to make sure that just b/c we grant access to ubuntu-news then they aren't auto granted the permissions of the frdige and uwn teams18:17
akgranerreally they alll but frdige editors needs to be defined and re-org'd but that is for another cycle18:17
akgranernhandler, uwn and frdige editors are subteams of news team19:57
akgranerand canonical community team now owns then news team until a leadership team is elected19:58
akgraneronce you all have a leadership team then we can change ownership of all the teams to the leadership teams and the news team is not restricted19:59
akgranerso I am no longer listed as the owner of any of the news related teams....get with jono once leadership has be elected and he can make the changes you all need20:01
akgraner(Thanks again jono)20:01
holsteinakgraner: hey20:02
holsteini saw your message earlier20:02
akgranerholstein, hey!20:03
holsteinim in for some writing20:03
holsteinakgraner: you doing well?20:03
akgranerI threw you under the bus as moderator and publisher for putting things on the forums20:03
akgraner:-) you can curse me later20:03
holsteinhehe20:03
holsteinakgraner: thats cool... i'll get an idea of what that entails :)20:03
akgraneryou're a fast learner it'll be easy for you20:04
akgranernhandler, and highvoltage are great teachers as well plus there is a script for publishing it20:04
holsteinhandy :)20:05
akgranerI'll change the templates everywhere and you all have the reins...:-)20:07
holsteincool... as long as i can still officially bother you as needed20:08
akgraneryes you can :-)20:15
nhandlerakgraner: So you ended up setting the community team as the owner of all 3 teams? That avoids the issue I was talking about20:20
akgraneryep20:21
akgranerlp has staging you can play with teams20:22
akgranerbefore you really screw things up20:22
akgranerbeautiful play20:22
akgranerplace even20:22
nhandlerakgraner: And how is that post/email about the leadership team coming?20:23
akgranernhandler, I'm almost finished - just a week behind strep will do that to a person :-)20:24
nhandlerakgraner: I know that feeling all too well :)20:24
akgranerI'll get it out to you all though20:24
* nhandler hugs akgraner 20:25
akgranerthanks20:25
akgranerbasically I was thinking a 3 person leadrship team once from fridge, one from UWN and one that knows both or willing to learn both sides could manage, lead and build the teams20:26
akgranerbut I'll add more detail in the email20:27
akgranerok I can't type - getting tired...bbiab20:28
nhandler:)20:28
NRWlionhi there21:29

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