[10:21] <ghoulmann> morning
[10:25] <MrChrisDruif> Aloha ghoulmann
[10:25] <ghoulmann> hey there. how is it going?
[10:26] <MrChrisDruif> Studying for an exam, you?
[10:26] <ghoulmann> studying as well. independent study. and listening to killer groove.
[10:31] <MrChrisDruif> Independent as in just for yourself or something? Every study is for yourself right?
[10:31] <ghoulmann> this is for me, yes. critical theory (philosophy)
[10:34] <ghoulmann> trying to develop a course from it.
[10:34] <ghoulmann> looking for primary texts.
[10:36] <MrChrisDruif> Critical theory...sounds very interesting :D
[10:36] <ghoulmann> i thrive on it. intensely political reading of culture - literature, film, et al.
[10:39] <MrChrisDruif> Did a quick search on it and still sounds pretty interesting :)P
[10:39] <MrChrisDruif> -P
[10:40] <ghoulmann> is that ironic? looks ironic :)
[10:42] <MrChrisDruif> :)P should be :)
[10:42] <ghoulmann> what are you studying? and with how much urgency? :)
[10:47] <MrChrisDruif> Software Engineer and if I don't make this exam I'll flunk this study...
[10:47] <ghoulmann> well, sincerely, good luck. You'll ace it.
[10:48] <MrChrisDruif> Thanks for you illusion :)
[10:49] <ghoulmann> i'm nothing if not confident in my community.
[10:51] <MrChrisDruif> I might have made a kickass quicklist < http://www.webupd8.org/2011/06/unity-quicklists-to-add-remove.html > but that doesn't mean I fabulous with those exams :P
[10:52] <ghoulmann> kcik ass. i'm reblogging. stop being distracted!
[11:31] <NRWlion> hi there
[15:34] <akgraner> hi all I'm working on re-assigning ownership of the teams today may require some lp help but I'll figure it out
[15:35] <akgraner> sorry I've been away - strep kicked my a@# last week
[15:35] <akgraner> pleia2, thanks for all the RT tickets
[15:44]  * nigelb hugs akgraner 
[15:44] <nigelb> akgraner: Get some rest, really :)
[15:44] <akgraner> I am   - just wanted to get this taken care off
[15:45] <akgraner> then deactived my membership on all the teams, but you all can still has me questions if you need to know the historical reason for doing something
[15:46] <akgraner> I think at this stage of the came so the team will not be identified with me but with you all as a whole and as a team that is the responsible thing to do
[15:50] <akgraner> so bac on the LP team has to do some digging b/c it's not letting him change the ownership for the teams either...he's diggging into and will help get it all worked out
[15:53]  * nigelb hugs akgraner 
[16:49] <nhandler> akgraner: Have you seen the hilights from this channel by any chance?
[16:53] <nhandler> akgraner: We need some additional people granted moderator access on the UWN forum, and it would be nice if you could update the gdoc to the newer format and/or transfer ownership
[17:50] <akgraner> nhandler, I'll do both :-)   who do you want me to added as moderators
[17:50] <akgraner> for the forums
[17:51] <nhandler> akgraner: Who has been publishing so far? Me, akgraner, highvoltage? That should probably be fine
[17:52] <akgraner> ok...once there is a leadership team in place all on  the leadership team should be added as well
[17:53] <akgraner> I'll add holstein too as I know he was wanting to help more as well...if that is ok with you all?
[17:57] <pleia2> sounds good
[17:58] <akgraner> pleia2, are you already added?
[17:59] <akgraner> just added Technoviking if he could add those listed above...
[17:59] <akgraner> so I needed to make Ubuntu-news in LP  restricted since it will own restricted teams
[18:00] <akgraner> that just means anyone who applies to Ubuntu-news will get accepted
[18:00] <akgraner> it's an LP thing
[18:00] <pleia2> akgraner: no, I don't need to be added
[18:00] <pleia2> the others are plenty :)
[18:00] <akgraner> ok thanks
[18:00] <nhandler> akgraner: Wait, so how are you restructuring the LP teams/
[18:01] <akgraner> so ubuntu news will own the fridge and uwn
[18:01] <akgraner> and until a news team is elected the community team will be listed as owners of the news team
[18:03] <akgraner> it's nothing really except linking them all together  - Fridge editors (restricted and UWN moderated will automatically belong to ubuntu news
[18:03] <nhandler> akgraner: That might get a bit funky. That means that essentially any member of either the fridge or UWN team is an owner of the team
[18:03] <akgraner> but since anyone wanting to join ubuntu-news can not just be members of those two teams it will need to restrcited but we just approve dthose who want to join ubuntu-news
[18:04] <akgraner> NO it doesn't
[18:04] <akgraner> ubuntu-news owns fridge and uwn
[18:04] <nhandler> And fridge and UWN are currently members of ubuntu-news
[18:04] <akgraner> and once a leadership team is in place it will own news
[18:04] <akgraner> yes
[18:04] <akgraner> or they should be
[18:05] <akgraner> and will be
[18:05] <nhandler> So a member of UWN has membership in ubuntu-news, so if ubuntu-news is set as the owner of a team, that person has the privileges that go along with it
[18:05] <akgraner> no
[18:05] <akgraner> no
[18:05] <akgraner> no
[18:05] <akgraner>    how do I explain it
[18:06] <akgraner> let me get an lp person to explain why it has to be this way
[18:07] <akgraner> can you just trust me to set this up...then as a leadership team you all can do what ever you want to with it
[18:07] <nhandler> akgraner: Go ahead
[18:08] <akgraner> right now nothing is connected and makes sense and these are teams that do not need to be associated with individuals but with ubuntu news as a whole
[18:08] <akgraner> this is hard
[18:09] <akgraner> I'll get an LP person with the right language to explain it so that you'll understand
[18:09] <akgraner> if an open team owns restricted teams then anyone on the open team has full rights to the restricted team
[18:10] <akgraner> but if you restrict the team then you decided which team they will ultimately  have access too
[18:10] <akgraner> lp is great for development teams and projects but not great for team management
[18:11] <akgraner> *sigh*
[18:11] <nhandler> Restricting the team simply means that an admin of the team needs to approve all join requests
[18:11] <nhandler> Make the change, and I'll show you what I mean
[18:11] <akgraner> yes, but you are only granting accesss to the one team not to the subteams
[18:11] <akgraner> I know what you mean
[18:11] <akgraner> but that's the only way right now to make ubuntu-news owner
[18:13] <akgraner> it just means clicking yes..UW does that and and so does the NC loco team...or at least we used to who knows what has changed in two weeks :-)
[18:17] <akgraner> just to make sure before I change anything  - I am double checking with bac to make sure that just b/c we grant access to ubuntu-news then they aren't auto granted the permissions of the frdige and uwn teams
[18:17] <akgraner> really they alll but frdige editors needs to be defined and re-org'd but that is for another cycle
[19:57] <akgraner> nhandler, uwn and frdige editors are subteams of news team
[19:58] <akgraner> and canonical community team now owns then news team until a leadership team is elected
[19:59] <akgraner> once you all have a leadership team then we can change ownership of all the teams to the leadership teams and the news team is not restricted
[20:01] <akgraner> so I am no longer listed as the owner of any of the news related teams....get with jono once leadership has be elected and he can make the changes you all need
[20:01] <akgraner> (Thanks again jono)
[20:02] <holstein> akgraner: hey
[20:02] <holstein> i saw your message earlier
[20:03] <akgraner> holstein, hey!
[20:03] <holstein> im in for some writing
[20:03] <holstein> akgraner: you doing well?
[20:03] <akgraner> I threw you under the bus as moderator and publisher for putting things on the forums
[20:03] <akgraner> :-) you can curse me later
[20:03] <holstein> hehe
[20:03] <holstein> akgraner: thats cool... i'll get an idea of what that entails :)
[20:04] <akgraner> you're a fast learner it'll be easy for you
[20:04] <akgraner> nhandler, and highvoltage are great teachers as well plus there is a script for publishing it
[20:05] <holstein> handy :)
[20:07] <akgraner> I'll change the templates everywhere and you all have the reins...:-)
[20:08] <holstein> cool... as long as i can still officially bother you as needed
[20:15] <akgraner> yes you can :-)
[20:20] <nhandler> akgraner: So you ended up setting the community team as the owner of all 3 teams? That avoids the issue I was talking about
[20:21] <akgraner> yep
[20:22] <akgraner> lp has staging you can play with teams
[20:22] <akgraner> before you really screw things up
[20:22] <akgraner> beautiful play
[20:22] <akgraner> place even
[20:23] <nhandler> akgraner: And how is that post/email about the leadership team coming?
[20:24] <akgraner> nhandler, I'm almost finished - just a week behind strep will do that to a person :-)
[20:24] <nhandler> akgraner: I know that feeling all too well :)
[20:24] <akgraner> I'll get it out to you all though
[20:25]  * nhandler hugs akgraner 
[20:25] <akgraner> thanks
[20:26] <akgraner> basically I was thinking a 3 person leadrship team once from fridge, one from UWN and one that knows both or willing to learn both sides could manage, lead and build the teams
[20:27] <akgraner> but I'll add more detail in the email
[20:28] <akgraner> ok I can't type - getting tired...bbiab
[20:28] <nhandler> :)
[21:29] <NRWlion> hi there