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AlanBell | TheOpenSourcerer: o/ | 06:25 |
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TheOpenSourcerer | Just about to leave. | 06:25 |
AlanBell | ok | 06:26 |
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MooDoo | hello all | 08:54 |
popey | morning | 08:56 |
MooDoo | morning alan | 08:57 |
DJones | Morning all | 09:07 |
MooDoo | morning | 09:08 |
diplo | Morning all | 09:08 |
wintellect | Mornin all | 09:10 |
BigRedS | G'morning! | 09:13 |
diplo | AlanBell, do you guys use Alfresco ? | 09:18 |
dogmatic69 | sup BigRedS | 09:26 |
BigRedS | Morning dogmatic69! Not a lot, you? | 09:26 |
dogmatic69 | coding | 09:27 |
dogmatic69 | nothing to exciting going on | 09:27 |
dutchie | oh you stupid computer | 09:27 |
BigRedS | must be user error | 09:27 |
dutchie | http://askubuntu.com/questions/47591/dpkg-hangs-on-updates AGAIN | 09:27 |
BigRedS | ok. perhaps that one's not user error | 09:28 |
BigRedS | does ask ubuntu replace the launchpad questions thing? | 09:29 |
dutchie | i have no idea | 09:29 |
bigcalm | Good morning workers | 09:30 |
dutchie | lo bigcalm | 09:31 |
BigRedS | g'morning | 09:31 |
MooDoo | bigcalm: workes? /me looks around | 09:31 |
bigcalm | Quite | 09:31 |
bigcalm | I have a week off and my inbox looks horrible | 09:32 |
BigRedS | just mark all as read | 09:32 |
bigcalm | And then go back to bed? | 09:32 |
BigRedS | yeah | 09:32 |
bigcalm | That's my kind of Tuesday \o/ | 09:32 |
BigRedS | haha | 09:33 |
bigcalm | Just had physio, so really do feel like going back to bed | 09:35 |
oimon | woke up at 4am due to dog whining and couldn't sleep for 3 hrs :( | 09:36 |
oimon | by the time i fell asleep it was just before the alarm went off and i felt rubbish | 09:36 |
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daubers | lo | 09:38 |
jpds | eth0 | 09:43 |
BigRedS | hurr | 09:45 |
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oimon | have you guys read the shuttleworth interviwe http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/061311-mark-shuttleworth.html | 10:14 |
* popey clicks | 10:14 | |
oimon | i'm sure you've already seen it popey, nothing gets through the popeywall | 10:15 |
* bigcalm beams a smelly cheese to popey | 10:16 | |
popey | no, I hadn't seen it | 10:18 |
popey | have added it to the news for the next podcast show | 10:18 |
popey | thanks! | 10:19 |
oimon | np | 10:19 |
oimon | there's also a bit in the interview where he says that he bought an ipad because of popey | 10:19 |
popey | lol | 10:20 |
oimon | [citation needed] | 10:20 |
* MooDoo shakes his head and did actually look for that part of the interview....FISHED IN | 10:21 | |
oimon | o/-----------------------------(moodoo) | 10:22 |
oimon | thats MooDoo on the end of my fishing line | 10:22 |
oimon | update from my train company yesterday: "Service disruption caused by a toy balloon obstructing the overhead powerline equipment near Ponders End" | 10:23 |
dogmatic69 | lol | 10:23 |
BigRedS | haha | 10:23 |
czajkowski | aloha | 10:24 |
MooDoo | hello czajkowski x | 10:24 |
oimon | slapping 10.04 on a PC for a friend....still feels good, even on old PC | 10:24 |
oimon | + ubuntu-restricted-extras, skype , chromium, move buttons to right and you're done in < 30 mins | 10:25 |
popey | hahah | 10:25 |
oimon | (plus delete the bottom panel), and download the ubuntu manual onto the desktop | 10:26 |
oimon | even on 512mb it runs sweetly though | 10:26 |
* oimon has some more spare pcs.. | 10:26 | |
ali1234 | lol ubuntu on 512mb | 10:26 |
ali1234 | i hope the person never tries to run anything except vim and mutt | 10:26 |
oimon | chromium , facebook, youtube, etc all run fine | 10:27 |
oimon | that's 90% of av. joe's activity | 10:27 |
ali1234 | chromium in 512mb is painful | 10:27 |
oimon | nah..not with 3 tabs | 10:27 |
ali1234 | and that's before you go to a page that uses flash | 10:27 |
ali1234 | 4gb is not enough to run ubuntu these days, 512mb is a joke | 10:28 |
oimon | it all depends on your usage patterns | 10:28 |
ali1234 | usage pattern = load firefox, visit a webpage | 10:28 |
oimon | my work PC needs 4gb true, cos i never shutdown | 10:28 |
czajkowski | hmm machine is running rather slowly today m | 10:28 |
oimon | hmm must remember to uninstall gwibber and install hotot | 10:29 |
gord | i opened 400 720p images in gimp... my computer is also running slowly now :( | 10:29 |
dogmatic69 | hehe | 10:29 |
MooDoo | lol | 10:29 |
ali1234 | that's only 1.4gb | 10:30 |
czajkowski | is there a tool to spring clean unwanted packages, does janitor do enough ? | 10:30 |
popey | czajkowski: apt-get autoremove | 10:30 |
popey | but thats almost certainly not causing your machine to run slow | 10:30 |
czajkowski | After this operation, 6,574 kB disk space will be freed. | 10:31 |
czajkowski | popey: thank you | 10:31 |
czajkowski | xorg has already randomly rebooted on me today | 10:31 |
czajkowski | :s | 10:31 |
popey | it will delete all your date though. | 10:31 |
popey | *data | 10:31 |
popey | (kidding) | 10:31 |
czajkowski | popey: I know you're not mean enough to ever give someone a command to do that kinda thing | 10:32 |
czajkowski | plus | 10:32 |
oimon | jokes about data are not funny :P | 10:32 |
czajkowski | I know where you live and I'd come and kiillllllll you | 10:32 |
oimon | they come back to eat you | 10:32 |
popey | haha | 10:32 |
gord | huh... thats the third person i have heard of mentioning xorg crashes today | 10:32 |
czajkowski | gord: I've a ppa in for a fix from someone who helped me fix it | 10:32 |
MooDoo | czajkowski: wow is this the old aggressive you coming back to us? | 10:32 |
czajkowski | but before I had the ppa in it would do it 2-3 times a day | 10:32 |
popey | woop woop! | 10:32 |
czajkowski | MooDoo: no this is me who woke up at 5am | 10:33 |
gord | czajkowski, intel? | 10:33 |
* popey hugs his two RAID 10 arrays! | 10:33 | |
czajkowski | gord: aye | 10:33 |
* oimon is having problems converting a DVD to .rec format :( | 10:33 | |
gord | czajkowski, whats the ppa? | 10:33 |
czajkowski | gord: hmmm | 10:33 |
popey | hmm, I should just add this second RAID10 to the first and make one giant LVM | 10:33 |
czajkowski | gord: I tweeted it at the time | 10:34 |
czajkowski | lemmie see | 10:34 |
czajkowski | navigating at times via unity confuses me | 10:34 |
czajkowski | gord: see pm :D | 10:35 |
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czajkowski | adding his ppa to it fixed it http://ppa.launchpad.net/sarvatt/sru3/ubuntu/ | 10:39 |
czajkowski | for natty | 10:39 |
oimon | hmm is there a bug # assocaited with this czajkowski? | 10:40 |
czajkowski | https://launchpad.net/~sarvatt | 10:40 |
czajkowski | oimon: yes or I'd not be doing it :) but I don't know the bug number off | 10:41 |
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czajkowski | cant find the bug I logged as it was a duplicate it seems | 10:45 |
brobostigon | good morning everyone. | 10:47 |
MooDoo | brobostigon: good morning si | 10:48 |
MooDoo | sir | 10:48 |
brobostigon | MooDoo: good morning, :) | 10:49 |
oimon | hmm | 10:55 |
oimon | somebody who has left and is now working at a bank still has a user account on our network. they are rsyncing VERY private info to their home dir on my systems | 10:56 |
oimon | i don't think that stuff is really designed to go offsite | 10:56 |
popey | is it a cron job? | 10:58 |
oimon | no, he's run an rsync over ssh | 11:01 |
popey | i run rsync over ssh | 11:02 |
popey | via cron | 11:02 |
jpds | oimon: apt-get install -y slay | 11:02 |
oimon | possibily cron on the remote machine..none on my server | 11:02 |
oimon | hopefully i can close the account | 11:03 |
popey | thats what I meant | 11:03 |
popey | i.e. it could be something that he had running regularly and you've just spotted it | 11:03 |
oimon | it's funny how he doesn't think much of the confidentiality | 11:03 |
czajkowski | oimon: it is also possible he's forgotten it's doing it | 11:04 |
czajkowski | or at least to that extent | 11:04 |
oimon | it seems quite deliberate | 11:04 |
oimon | looking at the command history.. | 11:04 |
jpds | slay is your friend. | 11:04 |
oimon | i prefer userdel | 11:05 |
oimon | slay then userdel | 11:05 |
czajkowski | oh jpds :D | 11:06 |
daubers | oimon: Or you could redirect the folder he's mucking around with with an alias and make him download /dev/urandom every time :) | 11:10 |
oimon | or replace every jpeg with goatse | 11:11 |
bigcalm | Anybody good with regex tell me why 'kevin.m.young@bankofamerica.com' is failing against /^[^@]+@[a-zA-Z0-9._-]+\.[a-zA-Z]+$/ | 11:11 |
gord | bigcalm, ^[^@]+@[a-zA-Z0-9._-]+\.[a-zA-Z]+$ matches fine | 11:16 |
gord | bigcalm, make sure you have multiline mode enabled in your parser | 11:17 |
screen-x | morning :) | 11:17 |
bigcalm | Humm | 11:17 |
screen-x | Whats the Status of NFS4? According to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NFSv4Howto UID/GID permissions don't work without kerberos, tell me this isn't so! | 11:18 |
bigcalm | gord: ta. Looks like there is a special char at the end of the email address | 11:19 |
livingdaylight | greetings | 11:22 |
gord | bigcalm, also your regex won't match all email addresses ¬_¬ you may get angry nerds yelling at you | 11:22 |
brobostigon | good morning livingdaylight | 11:22 |
livingdaylight | brobostigon, morning morning | 11:23 |
livingdaylight | Is everyone aware that Operation Empire State Rebellion is now Engaged? | 11:24 |
livingdaylight | agues not! LoL | 11:25 |
livingdaylight | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XySGw-g2tyk&feature=player_embedded | 11:25 |
AlanBell | diplo yes | 11:28 |
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diplo | Is it worth a good bit of effort to set up ? | 11:40 |
diplo | Place i work now have nothing bar a smb share atm | 11:40 |
diplo | And stuff everywhere | 11:40 |
JGJones | sigh...Google might focus on being blazing fast with their searches but their MX records validation is slower than a snail for Google Apps.... | 11:40 |
MartijnVdS | JGJones: negative TTL + normal TTL | 11:40 |
livingdaylight | guys, I have issues with skype. no mike. Must I switch away from Pulseaudio and if so how/where? | 11:41 |
JGJones | MartijnVdS, the MX records was setup about 2 days ago. Validation started last night | 11:41 |
livingdaylight | skype points out that i'm using pulseaudio, under options, whether that implies that there lies the issue i'm not clear | 11:41 |
MartijnVdS | livingdaylight: it's probably right | 11:42 |
livingdaylight | I've asked in #ubuntu and the only feedback i'm getting is that this is an issue with 11.04. I'm not the only one it seems | 11:42 |
MartijnVdS | also, pulse is the right choice | 11:42 |
livingdaylight | MartijnVdS, there used to be options in the drop-down menu (in Options) but i see none. | 11:43 |
popey | livingdaylight: the fact that skype mentions pulse just means you manage the audio device with pulse mixer | 11:45 |
popey | which you get to from the sound menu | 11:45 |
popey | skype works for me in 11.04 | 11:45 |
livingdaylight | popey, by default; is there a how-to to fix this here? | 11:46 |
popey | fix what? | 11:46 |
livingdaylight | that its not working | 11:46 |
popey | go to sound menu, choose mixer, choose input devices, make sure mic isnt muted | 11:46 |
popey | tap mic to see VU meter going up and down | 11:46 |
livingdaylight | mike is not muted as handset works with Teamspeak | 11:47 |
popey | just because it works in teamspeak doesn't mean its not muted in pulse | 11:47 |
popey | please go to the sound menu, choose mixer, choose input device, select the mic, make sure it isnt muted | 11:47 |
livingdaylight | is that right-click properties? | 11:48 |
popey | are you on 11.04? | 11:48 |
livingdaylight | yes | 11:48 |
popey | click the sound menu | 11:48 |
livingdaylight | with the unity bar | 11:48 |
livingdaylight | where is this sound menu? | 11:48 |
popey | top right of the screen, little speaker icon | 11:48 |
bigcalm | Email from a new contact within an existing client "Hi Iain, thank you for worm wellcome." | 11:49 |
livingdaylight | yes, and properties, yes? | 11:49 |
popey | livingdaylight: should be last icon in the menu | 11:49 |
bigcalm | I am easily amused | 11:49 |
popey | last item sorry | 11:49 |
screen-x | do not try and find the place to right click, instead realise the truth; there is no right click | 11:49 |
livingdaylight | popey, last item is properties | 11:49 |
popey | ok, good | 11:50 |
popey | click that, a windows appears? | 11:50 |
livingdaylight | yup, | 11:50 |
popey | and there's an input devices tab? | 11:50 |
livingdaylight | yup and mic responds | 11:50 |
popey | so you see the VU meter go up as you talk? | 11:50 |
livingdaylight | that's right | 11:51 |
popey | ok, great. | 11:51 |
livingdaylight | which is why I can speak on Teamspeak; but why not on skype? | 11:51 |
popey | how many input devices are listed in the bottom half | 11:51 |
popey | hang on. | 11:51 |
livingdaylight | Internal Audio Analogue Stereo | 11:52 |
popey | what type of mic is it? | 11:52 |
popey | USB or plugged into mic port? | 11:52 |
popey | is it a headset or what? | 11:52 |
livingdaylight | latter | 11:52 |
livingdaylight | y | 11:52 |
popey | which? | 11:52 |
livingdaylight | plugged into mic port | 11:53 |
popey | ok | 11:53 |
popey | do you have skype open? | 11:53 |
livingdaylight | y | 11:53 |
popey | can you open the options dialog in skype? | 11:53 |
livingdaylight | yes | 11:53 |
livingdaylight | popey, did another test call, and can hear my own voice now | 11:54 |
popey | and you have audio devices listed for ringing, and mic and speakers | 11:54 |
popey | great | 11:54 |
popey | so its working fine? | 11:54 |
livingdaylight | I swear it wasn't playing nice earlier though... darn | 11:54 |
livingdaylight | quality is still not great, but I'm audible compared to earliers pure fuzzzzz sound | 11:55 |
livingdaylight | run me through the ideal settings under options anyway, - please. | 11:55 |
popey | if its working you probably have ideal settings | 11:56 |
pwuertz | hi! is there a workaround for connecting to icq using empathy? it's not working out of the box at the moment due to a server certificate error.. | 12:27 |
oimon | pwuertz: don't know if this is relevant? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-haze/+bug/676060 | 12:32 |
lubotu3 | Ubuntu bug 676060 in Empathy "Cannot connect to ICQ (dup-of: 675903)" [Undecided,New] | 12:32 |
lubotu3 | Ubuntu bug 675903 in pidgin (Ubuntu) "pidgin ICQ connection error" [Medium,Fix released] | 12:32 |
pwuertz | oimon, yes exactly | 12:34 |
pwuertz | i did it in pidgin, but empathy does not have the option to deactivate ssl | 12:35 |
oimon | there's a workaround in the bug desc | 12:35 |
davmor2 | morning all | 12:37 |
pwuertz | mc-tool update: Protocol 'icq' does not have parameter 'use-ssl' | 12:38 |
pwuertz | doh | 12:38 |
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pwuertz | this is the new bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-haze/+bug/795932 | 12:39 |
lubotu3 | Ubuntu bug 795932 in telepathy-haze (Ubuntu) "ICQ doesn't work since June 10, 2011" [High,Confirmed] | 12:39 |
MooDoo | davmor2: ayup big xheese | 12:39 |
MooDoo | cheese | 12:39 |
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davmor2 | Moodoo and there was me thinking you were on about something interesting with your xheese | 12:41 |
MooDoo | davmor2: i'm not interesting at all, although i hope the weather holds off i want to go take photographs | 12:42 |
MooDoo | davmor2: slight conversation change there | 12:42 |
davmor2 | MooDoo: now you become interesting proving your lack of interest to be a fallacy | 12:43 |
MooDoo | davmor2: pah! | 12:43 |
popey | wow.. icq | 13:32 |
popey | 11317622 :D | 13:32 |
MartijnVdS | 6968589 :) | 13:32 |
davmor2 | popey: Why you wowing at icq? | 13:32 |
oimon | http://www.reghardware.com/2011/06/14/games_review_duke_nukem_forever/ LOL | 13:33 |
gord | icq... still exists? O_O | 13:33 |
oimon | in russia apparently | 13:33 |
gord | i thought we banished that to the 90's | 13:33 |
davmor2 | gord: that was about the only thing | 13:33 |
dogmatic69 | icq + myspace == http://tinyurl.com/6btjken | 13:34 |
popey | davmor2: retro | 13:35 |
davmor2 | popey: never used it | 13:35 |
JGJones | oimon the game would have been awesome had it come out MUCH earlier...say...over 10 years ago :) | 13:47 |
JGJones | Think of a story - but don't be dirty minded ;-) http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2011/06/write-the-story.html | 13:48 |
ali1234 | "Duke Nukem Forever is the sum of all its flaws – a truly terrible game with almost no redeeming features." "40%" what? how can you pan it and then give it 40%? | 13:52 |
oimon | ali1234: you're right, from that rhetoric you would think it is 10% | 13:53 |
oimon | maybe 40% is the baseline | 13:53 |
ali1234 | i guess it could be worse, it could be unplayably buggy too | 13:53 |
bigcalm | It's jerky on my machine :( | 13:54 |
bigcalm | But was fun to watch it being downloaded at 3.6MB/s | 13:54 |
oimon | bigcalm: you bought it? | 13:54 |
oimon | how much for? | 13:54 |
bigcalm | I did | 13:54 |
ali1234 | sometimes i think video game reviewers grade on a scale the goes from "100% - a really good game" to "0% - being hit in the face with a spade" | 13:54 |
bigcalm | I very rarely read any reviews | 13:55 |
ali1234 | which is to say that in order to get less than about 70% you have to make something that isn't even a computer game, and couldn't even be confused with one | 13:55 |
JGJones | Is there a difference between a review and a PR blurb? ;) | 13:56 |
JGJones | I guess most gamers just ask friends etc their thoughts - Minecraft being a good example. I was told it was awesome by coupla of friends so I got it based on that. | 13:56 |
ali1234 | thinking about it, 40% is actually really really harsh, probably harsher than it deserves | 13:57 |
oimon | %ages are always relative to the other games of the current day | 13:58 |
bigcalm | Zero Punctuation is the only reviewer I listen to | 14:05 |
MartijnVdS | bigcalm: extra credits are nice as well | 14:05 |
MartijnVdS | but they're not really reviews | 14:06 |
davmor2 | popey: what did you buy with your massive CPW windfall? | 14:18 |
popey | davmor2: nothing yet | 14:21 |
popey | co-workers bought ipad covers | 14:21 |
davmor2 | popey: is that so they can sit and dream of the thing that should be in it? | 14:21 |
popey | one of them has no ipad, so yes | 14:22 |
davmor2 | haha | 14:22 |
krimzon2 | lol | 14:23 |
* davmor2 prods czajkowski just to remind her that he's about :P | 14:30 | |
ubuntuuk-planet | [Alan Bell] OpenERP Wordle - http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2011/06/14/openerp-wordle/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=openerp-wordle | 14:31 |
* czajkowski kicks davmor2 | 14:31 | |
czajkowski | I'm here | 14:31 |
davmor2 | czajkowski: hugs all round czajkowski is on top form :) | 14:32 |
popey | Jabber \o/ | 14:32 |
MattJ | Jabber \o/ | 14:32 |
davmor2 | who said the J word? | 14:33 |
czajkowski | jibber jabber | 14:33 |
bigcalm | Wocky | 14:33 |
davmor2 | czajkowski: the quote is "Quit your jibber jabber FooooooooooooL!" Mr.T | 14:34 |
MattJ | Jibber Jabber \o/ | 14:34 |
bennie123 | hey all | 14:36 |
MattJ | Hey | 14:36 |
bennie123 | anyone know if it is possible to login to a VPN inside one browser only. | 14:37 |
bennie123 | rather than system wide, via network tools | 14:37 |
BigRedS | I think you might be misunderstanding a 'vpn'. By its nature it happens down in the network | 14:50 |
BigRedS | what's the actual problem you're looking to solve? | 14:50 |
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* davmor2 pulls faces behind czajkowski back | 15:10 | |
* czajkowski pours a bucket of toffee over davmor2 that'll learn you | 15:10 | |
brobostigon | teach you* | 15:11 |
andylockran | Azelphur: I'm doing 14.32 Mh/s as part of bitcoinpool.. reckon that makes economic sense? | 15:12 |
* DJones watches as czajkowski gets another bucket of toffee ready for brobostigon | 15:12 | |
MooDoo | czajkowski: that the same of that'll teach you? | 15:12 |
* MooDoo waits for the fist | 15:12 | |
* davmor2 eats the toffee | 15:12 | |
czajkowski | brobostigon: it's an expression!! | 15:14 |
davmor2 | czajkowski: Face it you're wrong it's not the first time nor the last I'm sure :D | 15:16 |
brobostigon | czajkowski: oh, umm,ok. | 15:16 |
oimon | a colleague was telling me he has 3000 BTC | 15:16 |
* davmor2 readies gob for more teaching | 15:17 | |
czajkowski | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=That'll%20Learn%20You | 15:17 |
ali1234 | andylockran: noooooooooooooooo | 15:18 |
brobostigon | czajkowski: ok, it interesting, that is one of those thigns inthe english language,where the wording has nothing, to dowith the actual meaning. | 15:19 |
MooDoo | sorry i didn't mean to start and arguement, i was only teasing czajkowski | 15:21 |
ali1234 | andylockran: first, 14mh is rubbish and it's probably costing you more in electricity unless the machine uses less than 10W, second bitcoinpool is rubbish, avoid them | 15:21 |
brobostigon | MooDoo: i think its myfault, i think i misunderstood czajkowski's words. | 15:22 |
czajkowski | MooDoo: tis ok, it should be a given comments between u me and davmor2 should not be taken literally | 15:22 |
MooDoo | czajkowski: ok cool | 15:22 |
popey | brobostigon: I dont think you misunderstood, I just didn't think you have heard that particular colloquialism | 15:22 |
brobostigon | popey: yes, that makes more sense, | 15:22 |
popey | its just a deliberate mistype | 15:22 |
popey | like when people say "pass the suggestive biscuits" | 15:23 |
brobostigon | ok. | 15:23 |
czajkowski | brobostigon: it's not you, it's just the way I speak at times, I type the way I'd actually say it in person | 15:23 |
czajkowski | sorry for the confusion | 15:23 |
ali1234 | i misread "person" for "prison" lol | 15:24 |
davmor2 | see the trouble these upperty irish lasses bring to the channel, oi czajkowski that's you that is ;) | 15:24 |
brobostigon | czajkowski: ah, i see, no worries. | 15:24 |
davmor2 | ali1234: a bit different | 15:24 |
* czajkowski peers at davmor2 | 15:24 | |
czajkowski | I'm having a day of IRC woes, Email and now twitter | 15:25 |
czajkowski | so need a pint! | 15:25 |
* brobostigon gets one for himself and czajkowski | 15:25 | |
davmor2 | here a pint of good stuff, otherwise known as water | 15:25 |
davmor2 | czajkowski: here have a virtual hug instead | 15:26 |
* MooDoo wants a pint, and does owe czajkowski a pint. | 15:26 | |
MooDoo | on my way | 15:26 |
MooDoo | lol | 15:26 |
czajkowski | :) | 15:30 |
MooDoo | czajkowski: one day i'll buy you a beer :D | 15:30 |
czajkowski | one day we'll even meet | 15:31 |
czajkowski | who knows | 15:31 |
czajkowski | :) | 15:31 |
MooDoo | czajkowski: oh i guarantee that, i'll make a big effort in 2012 :D | 15:32 |
andylockran | ali1234: who to join then :) | 15:34 |
ali1234 | if you only have 14mh then don't bother | 15:34 |
andylockran | ali1234: what's required? | 15:34 |
ali1234 | a recent ATI card | 15:35 |
andylockran | ok | 15:35 |
ali1234 | 14mh will earn you 27p a day | 15:35 |
ali1234 | before electricity | 15:36 |
andylockran | I have the computer on anyways :) | 15:36 |
andylockran | but yeah | 15:36 |
ali1234 | funnily enough, it uses more electricity when you stress it out | 15:36 |
oimon | strange that :P | 15:36 |
ali1234 | who would have thought? | 15:36 |
andylockran | wow.. reallly? | 15:36 |
andylockran | (come on.. give me a break :p) | 15:36 |
oimon | probably @ £1 per day | 15:37 |
ali1234 | bit less than that | 15:37 |
ali1234 | the difference between 5% CPU and 100% CPU is probably about 50p-75p a day | 15:37 |
exobuzz | i would think it is less than that | 15:38 |
ali1234 | if you have loads of hard drives and ram it's going to use more but that's a constant if you leave it on anyway | 15:38 |
exobuzz | well depends on how much you are paying i guess but :) | 15:39 |
ali1234 | 11p/kWh | 15:39 |
oimon | 450W pc would used 10kwh per day | 15:40 |
ali1234 | yeah except that there's no such thing as a 450W PC | 15:40 |
andylockran | what's a good pool? | 15:40 |
ali1234 | andylockran: eligius or btcguild | 15:41 |
oimon | System Wattage with GPU in FULL Stress = 503W | 15:41 |
oimon | http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-590-review/7 | 15:41 |
ali1234 | yeah well ... nvidia sucks then | 15:41 |
oimon | have you got a wattmeter connected? | 15:41 |
ali1234 | i have a 5870 running maxed out and overclocked and it uses 250W for the whole machine | 15:41 |
ali1234 | yes, i have a meter | 15:42 |
hamitron | I estimated mine uses 450W | 15:42 |
exobuzz | i have onboard gfx :) | 15:42 |
ali1234 | when i quit the miner power usage drops to 120W | 15:43 |
hamitron | so sounds about right going by ali1234 's figure | 15:43 |
MooDoo | here you go czajkowski - http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Ml_5DrPnbks/SxQRmEOeBjI/AAAAAAAADpU/dJs2y2wMkBM/s1600/GuinnessPint.JPG | 15:43 |
oimon | ATI 6970: System Wattage with GPU in FULL Stress = 340W | 15:44 |
hamitron | 1 day till difficulty increases \o/ | 15:44 |
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ali1234 | oimon: i'm also running the most barebones motherboard ever | 15:45 |
ali1234 | lots of fans though | 15:45 |
ali1234 | but they only use a couple of watts each | 15:45 |
* hamitron just went to look at the power of his fans, then realised it is hard to read the label while they spin :/ | 15:46 | |
BigRedS | just poke your finger in and they'll stop | 15:46 |
ali1234 | fan on my desk says 12V 0.43A | 15:46 |
hamitron | I'm not messing with it | 15:46 |
BigRedS | haha | 15:46 |
hamitron | it all works atm | 15:46 |
hamitron | ;/ | 15:46 |
ali1234 | PWM is gonna make them use less too | 15:47 |
ali1234 | i would assume anyway | 15:47 |
ali1234 | speaking of electronics | 15:47 |
ali1234 | i spent the last two days testing all the digital logic simulators available for ubuntu | 15:48 |
ali1234 | and they all suck | 15:48 |
ali1234 | seriously | 15:48 |
hamitron | yep | 15:48 |
hamitron | :/ | 15:48 |
ali1234 | the only one that is even half way usable is incredibly buggy and crashes all the time | 15:48 |
ali1234 | and it got deleted from the repos cos it uses kde3 | 15:48 |
ali1234 | they are all either impossible to understand or so buggy that they crash before you're done entering the schematic | 15:49 |
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* exobuzz installed kubuntu in virtualbox. looking to switch back to kde | 15:49 | |
hamitron | have you tried Altera Quartus II? | 15:50 |
davmor2 | MooDoo: is that just before or after the End Of The World in 2012? | 15:50 |
ali1234 | hamitron: is that for their CPLD/FPGA? | 15:50 |
hamitron | yeh | 15:50 |
ali1234 | i've not tried it | 15:50 |
ali1234 | i need something with a simulator though | 15:50 |
MooDoo | davmor2: no i'm going to make a special effort, i mean i need a tour of canonical towers so i'll have to make a pub night of it with you too | 15:50 |
ali1234 | i want to program a xilinx cpld eventually and it has a designer but not a simulator afaict | 15:51 |
hamitron | ali1234: I thought Quartus did simulate it tbh | 15:51 |
davmor2 | MooDoo: HAHA! | 15:51 |
hamitron | but not tried it | 15:51 |
ali1234 | i will dl it and have a look | 15:51 |
ali1234 | oh joy 3.2GB | 15:51 |
hamitron | haha | 15:51 |
hamitron | damn | 15:52 |
MooDoo | davmor2: ok ok i'll settle for a pub night, i do owe czajkowski a pint | 15:52 |
ali1234 | well, the xilinx one was 4.1GB | 15:52 |
hamitron | software has grown these days :/ | 15:52 |
ali1234 | modelsim is a 600mb addon | 15:52 |
ali1234 | need to login............ :( | 15:53 |
hamitron | isn't there a good commandline only simulator available? | 15:53 |
ali1234 | command line only? | 15:54 |
hamitron | using VHDL and Verilog | 15:54 |
andylockran | Ok.. I've got 478 MHash/s now | 15:54 |
ali1234 | wow | 15:54 |
hamitron | on what? | 15:54 |
hamitron | :| | 15:54 |
andylockran | 8 core server with cpu mining | 15:55 |
ali1234 | thing is, i don't want to learn VHDL | 15:55 |
hamitron | andylockran: what cpu? | 15:55 |
hamitron | :-o | 15:55 |
* popey looks at the 150-odd 12-core boxen here | 15:56 | |
davmor2 | hamitron: dosbox :D | 15:56 |
ali1234 | no CPU can get 478mh not even if it has 8 cores | 15:56 |
ali1234 | 47.8mh is a stretch for cpuminer | 15:56 |
hamitron | I get 1.6mh/s | 15:56 |
hamitron | :/ | 15:56 |
ali1234 | quad core 3.2ghz phenom gets about 12 | 15:57 |
* BigRedS ponders capitalisation pedantry :) | 15:57 | |
andylockran | yes | 16:00 |
andylockran | I am a retard :) | 16:00 |
andylockran | misreading output | 16:05 |
andylockran | maybe this bitcoin stuff isn't for me :) | 16:11 |
andylockran | should just buy £100 worth and sell them in a bit. | 16:11 |
andylockran | rather than try generating them | 16:11 |
BigRedS | as long as they keep going upwards in value | 16:11 |
BigRedS | there's some horrific growth ATM, surely they're in for a crash in value? | 16:12 |
hamitron | andylockran: just wanna point out they crashed from $34 to $14 inside 48 hours 4 days ago | 16:12 |
andylockran | BigRedS: Only if there's polibical change. | 16:13 |
hamitron | ;) | 16:13 |
BigRedS | polibical? | 16:13 |
BigRedS | political? | 16:13 |
BigRedS | either way, why? Surely all it takes is lots of people wanting to sell? | 16:13 |
BigRedS | as per any other currency | 16:13 |
hamitron | yep | 16:13 |
BigRedS | or any other thing | 16:13 |
hamitron | or government restrictions | 16:13 |
hamitron | if there is so much as a sniff of restrictions been put on it, everyone will want to sell, and the price will crash | 16:14 |
BigRedS | oh yeah | 16:15 |
oimon | $34 per BTC? | 16:25 |
hamitron | yep | 16:25 |
popey | it's about 20USD now | 16:25 |
oimon | hmm..so 3000 BTC would be worth selling | 16:25 |
hamitron | it was maybe a little higher at one point | 16:25 |
oimon | i'm sure only speculators and jounralists are buying though | 16:26 |
* hamitron bought 95 BTC on Saturday | 16:26 | |
hamitron | ;) | 16:26 |
hamitron | and sold on Sunday | 16:26 |
oimon | mug :P | 16:26 |
hamitron | haha | 16:26 |
hamitron | I paid 17.50 and got 22.00 | 16:27 |
oimon | gambling's a mugs game | 16:27 |
hamitron | I was intending to keep them longer, then realised I couldn't handle the "excitement" | 16:27 |
hamitron | ;) | 16:27 |
hamitron | never again, just mining them now and selling | 16:28 |
oimon | hmm software-center doesn't like my correct password | 16:29 |
hamitron | :/ | 16:29 |
popey | hamitron: how did you buy them? an exchange? | 16:30 |
hamitron | yeh | 16:30 |
popey | which one out of interest? | 16:30 |
hamitron | Mt. Gox | 16:30 |
popey | I need to get rid of my BTC some time | 16:30 |
hamitron | they charge 0.65% for converting, then 2% to withdraw in euro | 16:31 |
hamitron | iirc | 16:31 |
popey | I'll probably hold on a while | 16:31 |
oimon | how many do u have? | 16:31 |
popey | 52 | 16:32 |
hamitron | difficulty increases to 1,000,000 at a guess, tomorrow | 16:32 |
hamitron | :) | 16:32 |
hamitron | that is going to start slowing down miners, even with decent hardware | 16:33 |
popey | i think they cost me about 70 quid total | 16:33 |
popey | yeah | 16:33 |
oimon | in leccy costs? | 16:33 |
popey | that and I bought some ages ago | 16:33 |
* hamitron will get less than 1 BTC per day :( | 16:33 | |
czajkowski | what is BTC? | 16:34 |
popey | Bitcoin | 16:34 |
oimon | speculation in imaginary concept for profit at the expense of latecomers | 16:35 |
oimon | :D | 16:35 |
czajkowski | ahh ok | 16:35 |
czajkowski | thanks | 16:35 |
hamitron | I'm hoping to the profit stays there, till my new comp is bought | 16:36 |
hamitron | :) | 16:36 |
hamitron | all i ask ;/ | 16:36 |
andylockran | here's hoping | 16:50 |
peejay1977 | Hey all, dumb question, is Unity going to made compulsory in future releases and with the option of the Ubuntu Classic removed? Also I have installed a new version of a program but it runs from a different location, I have changed the path under the Main Menu app but it hasn't affected the Unity menu, how do I change this as I keep running the old version? | 18:16 |
BigRedS | yeah, 11.10 wont have the option of a gnome 2 log on | 18:49 |
ali1234 | heh, main menu still hasn't been fixed then? | 18:50 |
BigRedS | that doesn't soudn necessarily broken | 18:50 |
BigRedS | just a non-obvious way of changing the path | 18:50 |
ali1234 | it isn't broken | 18:50 |
ali1234 | it's by design | 18:50 |
ali1234 | the "main menu" tool doesn't apply to unity | 18:50 |
BigRedS | ohhh | 18:51 |
ali1234 | unity just does whatever it wants and there is no way to configure it | 18:51 |
ali1234 | but main menu is still installed by default for some reason, even though it does nothing except confuse people | 18:51 |
gord | its installed for the classic desktop | 18:51 |
ali1234 | if you use the dash in exactly the way it is intended to be used you will hit this bug | 18:51 |
ali1234 | that is, you want to edit the menus, so you type "menu" in the dash, and open the first thing that comes up | 18:52 |
ali1234 | the bug is that the dash should pop up a message that says "sorry, you can't edit the menus on ubuntu any more" | 18:53 |
ali1234 | instead of showing the menu editor from gnome 2 | 18:53 |
jacobw | → kde :) | 18:55 |
BigRedS | hah | 18:56 |
BigRedS | Is there a way to have twitter not replace my url with a 'shortened' one? | 18:58 |
AlanBell | evening all | 19:04 |
* AlanBell sits down with cold beer | 19:04 | |
BigRedS | Morning! | 19:04 |
* BigRedS is envious | 19:04 | |
jacobw | we seem to have a salutation-off-by-one error :p | 19:05 |
BigRedS | haha | 19:05 |
BigRedS | I standardised on 'morning' a while a go | 19:05 |
MartijnVdS | BigRedS: yeah, we did that IRL with a few friends as well | 19:08 |
AlanBell | anyone in Leicester? | 19:08 |
MartijnVdS | BigRedS: confuses people to no end :) | 19:08 |
BigRedS | MartijnVdS: i've been doing it long enough that people're now confused when I say 'afternoon' :) | 19:08 |
jacobw | AlanBell: they've perished at the hands of zombie hoard | 19:09 |
BigRedS | You hoard zombies? | 19:09 |
MartijnVdS | hoary zombies? | 19:09 |
jacobw | turns out the city council didn't have any plans to deal with zombies :p | 19:10 |
jacobw | of i course zombies, don't you? | 19:10 |
AlanBell | jacobw: yeah, they need to improve their planning | 19:10 |
AlanBell | I for one welcome our new zombie overlords | 19:10 |
MartijnVdS | Bah, if you see zombies, just kill their parents | 19:15 |
MartijnVdS | init should take care of the rest. | 19:15 |
BigRedS | haha | 19:15 |
MartijnVdS | (unless they're blocking on a read or something) | 19:15 |
BigRedS | I did enjoy being called up while at home over christmas and getting to say just-within-earshot of a bunch of family "well, are all the children dead?.. kill them, then. Check the parents are dead, too. And make sure they're actually dead" | 19:17 |
davmor2 | czajkowski: tell filace to annoy you from me too :D | 19:17 |
MartijnVdS | *awkward looks all around* | 19:17 |
BigRedS | hah, yeah. I genuinely wasn't aware they could hear, which probably made it a bit worse... | 19:18 |
jacobw | hehe | 19:19 |
MartijnVdS | BigRedS: did you also make stabbing movements with your free hand while saying it? | 19:20 |
BigRedS | haha! If only! | 19:20 |
jacobw | http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/timc | 19:23 |
jacobw | 100% awesome | 19:24 |
BigRedS | Ah. I'm after some new podcasts | 19:24 |
* hamitron has never used a podcast | 19:24 | |
jacobw | you should also check out radiolab.org in that case BigRedS | 19:24 |
BigRedS | jacobw: oooh, cheers! | 19:24 |
jacobw | you too hamitron, especially you *brow beats* | 19:25 |
BigRedS | hamitron: I didn't get them at all until I realised they're just the offspring of an mp3 and an rss generator | 19:25 |
hamitron | the name puts me off | 19:25 |
hamitron | ;) | 19:25 |
hamitron | and since I've done without so long because of that, just never missed what I've never used | 19:25 |
hamitron | but I will | 19:26 |
hamitron | :D | 19:26 |
jacobw | that's almost luddite | 19:26 |
BigRedS | hamitron: yeah, that's almost exactly what I did | 19:26 |
BigRedS | I've just found that I prefer spoken word on long rides to music | 19:26 |
BigRedS | but I ride at a rate greater than the uupc is generated | 19:27 |
hamitron | I read more :/ | 19:27 |
dutchie | hamitron: i suspect that is not advised while driving | 19:27 |
hamitron | read tech stuff, and listen to streaming radio | 19:27 |
hamitron | :D | 19:27 |
BigRedS | Ah, it's dangerous to do that on the bike :) | 19:27 |
hamitron | yeh, and my bike has no stereo | 19:27 |
hamitron | :/ | 19:27 |
BigRedS | Ah, I have an ipod | 19:28 |
hamitron | on a bike? | 19:28 |
jacobw | i've listened to podcasts whilst driving, its not different to listening to the radio | 19:28 |
BigRedS | motorbike, yeah | 19:28 |
BigRedS | well, and bicycle. But in that case it's music | 19:28 |
hamitron | I sometimes have my phone giving directions, about it | 19:28 |
BigRedS | Oh! Half of R4 is available in podcasted form! | 19:28 |
BigRedS | I was just pondering bodging something together with get-iplayer | 19:29 |
jacobw | this is true | 19:29 |
jacobw | i go through podcasts too fast | 19:29 |
hamitron | so why not just use mp3? | 19:30 |
BigRedS | it is mp3 | 19:30 |
BigRedS | the podcast bit is just convenience | 19:30 |
BigRedS | having an rss feed telling you when new ones are available, and giving you(r device) a link through which to get it | 19:31 |
hamitron | my devices only support mp3 | 19:31 |
hamitron | haha | 19:31 |
dutchie | and including a nice episode description | 19:31 |
hamitron | I can take the mp3 out? | 19:31 |
BigRedS | well, it might be ogg or whatever, too. But it's just an audio file, and an rss feed saying where it is | 19:31 |
BigRedS | yeah | 19:31 |
BigRedS | you could parse the rss feed yourself and do what you like with the .mp3 or .ogg or whatever | 19:32 |
jacobw | well all you 'get' is the audio file | 19:32 |
hamitron | parsing some rss feed is "convenient"? ;/ | 19:32 |
hamitron | well, will give it a go | 19:33 |
BigRedS | hamitron: no. pointing rhythmbox at an rss feed is convenient | 19:33 |
BigRedS | moreso than remembering when there's a new one and going and downloading it and listening to it | 19:33 |
BigRedS | well, arguably. I find it more convenient :) | 19:34 |
jacobw | it is convient, there's no argument about it. | 19:38 |
czajkowski | davmor2: eh no he needs no encouragement | 19:38 |
BigRedS | I'm arguing with rhythmbox as I type :) | 19:38 |
* davmor2 cheers for filace picking on czajkowski well just cause really | 19:38 | |
czajkowski | >:( | 19:39 |
czajkowski | oi | 19:39 |
davmor2 | czajkowski: you love it or he wouldn't do it :P | 19:39 |
czajkowski | eh no he wont do it again :) | 19:39 |
czajkowski | well he will but I'll glare some more | 19:39 |
davmor2 | BigRedS: Agreed aggregation of podcasts is far easier | 19:41 |
BigRedS | ah yeah, that'd work | 19:41 |
BigRedS | I must stop writing scripts *before* checking there's not already a website doing it | 19:41 |
jacobw | hehe | 19:42 |
davmor2 | BigRedS: Depends on if your script does it better | 19:43 |
BigRedS | It probably wont :) | 19:43 |
BigRedS | they rarely do... | 19:43 |
jacobw | its more fun that way :p | 19:43 |
BigRedS | but, still, it'd be better to start with an idea of what I dislike beforehand | 19:43 |
jacobw | i'm eating a kebab with a knife and fork | 20:04 |
jacobw | i think i might be 'posh' :s | 20:04 |
BigRedS | haha | 20:05 |
BigRedS | I think the kebab precludes that :) | 20:05 |
jacobw | good point | 20:05 |
MartijnVdS | However, if your monocle falls into the kebab that's an exception ;) | 20:06 |
jacobw | lol | 20:06 |
MartijnVdS | "Ooh I got kebab sauce all over my waistcoat" | 20:07 |
brobostigon | lol | 20:08 |
daubers | Evening | 20:13 |
jacobw | o/ daubers | 20:14 |
* AlanBell points to a gathering of sorts in #ubuntu-gaming | 20:37 | |
BigRedS | zombies again? | 20:37 |
MartijnVdS | BRAAAINS | 20:37 |
jacobw | all we wanna do is eat your brains | 20:37 |
jacobw | ++jonathoncoulton | 20:38 |
MartijnVdS | jacobw: Vegetarian zombies - GRAAAINS | 20:38 |
jacobw | hehe | 20:38 |
jane__ | #processing | 21:34 |
jacobw | jane__: /join #processing | 21:39 |
livingdaylight | Hi, do lots of people install Ubuntu on their macbooks or prefer to stick to apple's osx? | 22:00 |
Azelphur | does anyone know if USB 2 devices can plug into USB 3 sockets? | 22:01 |
JGJones | livingdaylight, I've got Ubuntu on a Macbook. | 22:02 |
livingdaylight | Azelphur, http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100608025141AAs6Psj | 22:02 |
livingdaylight | JGJones, interesting | 22:02 |
Azelphur | livingdaylight: not what I asked, but still interesting | 22:03 |
JGJones | livingdaylight, it was the first thing I did with it when I got it too. | 22:03 |
livingdaylight | JGJones, I'm thinking of getting a core2duo as their little cheaper now just for the hardware and putting Ubuntu on it; or if hd is big enough dual-booting? | 22:03 |
JGJones | The macbook I got is a core duo. | 22:03 |
livingdaylight | Azelphur, sorry, I mmisunderstood then | 22:03 |
Azelphur | :p | 22:03 |
JGJones | A tad old - and HDD is small, just a 60GB so it's just Ubuntu on it. | 22:04 |
Azelphur | usb 2 devices into usb 3 sockets, not usb 3 devices in usb 2 sockets | 22:04 |
livingdaylight | the core duos are slower than the core2duo, yes? but still run 11.04 fine? | 22:04 |
livingdaylight | yes | 22:04 |
JGJones | livingdaylight, the cpu's are slower, but you don't notice it day to day anyway. | 22:04 |
JGJones | Unity is supririsingly not that demanding on hardware - I have it running on a Celeron laptop with about 700Mb and it's fine. | 22:05 |
livingdaylight | I've had rotten luck with laptops lately. Bought an HP dm4 on ebay and it arrived broken | 22:05 |
JGJones | Intel graphics for both so it's Unity with compiz rather than Unity-2D | 22:05 |
JGJones | livingdaylight, ha...I was getting ready to sell my Sony VAIO SZ71 laptop - it's a decent laptop, runs Ubuntu very well. | 22:05 |
livingdaylight | so, thinking of getting some old-ish mac hardware. But even the old macs are £400+ ! THey sure hold their value | 22:05 |
JGJones | Set it up on ebay...and then checked laptop to check on size of HDD...and I got a SMART message telling me it's about to die. | 22:06 |
JGJones | bugger. | 22:06 |
JGJones | bloody great timing. | 22:06 |
livingdaylight | JGJones, what do you want for it? :p | 22:06 |
livingdaylight | I@ve gone off Sony's big time though | 22:06 |
JGJones | livingdaylight, it's a Sony VAIO SZ71 with 2GB, about to die 120GB HDD, dual graphics (Intel and nvidia) and core2duo...think the speed is 2.2GHz. | 22:07 |
livingdaylight | screen size? | 22:07 |
JGJones | Runs Ubuntu perfectly fine, everything out of box - however do need PPA for webcam driver. | 22:07 |
JGJones | it's a 12" 1280x800 screen. | 22:07 |
JGJones | it does comes with a OEM licence for Windows Vista if you fancy that (no CD's) | 22:08 |
livingdaylight | I orderd their new c series 14" and after 2 weeks it still hadn't arrived! So, refunded it | 22:08 |
livingdaylight | how much? | 22:08 |
JGJones | livingdaylight, if you're interested let me know and I can give you the full specification | 22:08 |
JGJones | livingdaylight, I have no idea what the value of the laptop is - I was going to look on ebay for similar laptops to get idea of price! :) | 22:09 |
livingdaylight | ok | 22:09 |
livingdaylight | if its a bargain, I could be interested | 22:10 |
livingdaylight | I'll have a look at what they look like | 22:10 |
livingdaylight | http://goo.gl/QtGyt something like that? | 22:10 |
JGJones | Not quite...mine does have the black lid cover, but with the aluminum palm rest - I'll send photos. | 22:12 |
brobostigon | good night everyone, sleep well. | 22:34 |
jacobw | night brobostigon | 22:46 |
filo1234 | Hi guys | 22:52 |
jacobw | hi | 22:54 |
* jacobw → bed | 22:54 | |
filo1234 | someone use trickle for bandwidth? and work fine with firefox downloads? I tried with trickle -d 100KB wget something and work but with firefox it doesn't, do you have some clue? | 22:55 |
filo1234 | or point me to another wat or tool for band limit | 22:55 |
filo1234 | way* | 22:56 |
michelle_ | Hi, anyone know a channel for Wine support please? | 23:03 |
Azelphur | michelle_: #winehq | 23:03 |
michelle_ | Many thanks! | 23:04 |
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