=== benj is now known as Guest41730 === LjL-Temp` is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest11383 [06:25] TheOpenSourcerer: o/ [06:25] Just about to leave. [06:26] ok === HdDgbalM is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest96502 === Guest96502 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest20749 === Guest20749 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest92642 [08:54] hello all [08:56] morning [08:57] morning alan [09:07] Morning all [09:08] morning [09:08] Morning all [09:10] Mornin all [09:13] G'morning! [09:18] AlanBell, do you guys use Alfresco ? [09:26] sup BigRedS [09:26] Morning dogmatic69! Not a lot, you? [09:27] coding [09:27] nothing to exciting going on [09:27] oh you stupid computer [09:27] must be user error [09:27] http://askubuntu.com/questions/47591/dpkg-hangs-on-updates AGAIN [09:28] ok. perhaps that one's not user error [09:29] does ask ubuntu replace the launchpad questions thing? [09:29] i have no idea [09:30] Good morning workers [09:31] lo bigcalm [09:31] g'morning [09:31] bigcalm: workes? /me looks around [09:31] Quite [09:32] I have a week off and my inbox looks horrible [09:32] just mark all as read [09:32] And then go back to bed? [09:32] yeah [09:32] That's my kind of Tuesday \o/ [09:33] haha [09:35] Just had physio, so really do feel like going back to bed [09:36] woke up at 4am due to dog whining and couldn't sleep for 3 hrs :( [09:36] by the time i fell asleep it was just before the alarm went off and i felt rubbish === Guest92642 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest73910 [09:38] lo [09:43] eth0 [09:45] hurr === will is now known as Guest93990 [10:14] have you guys read the shuttleworth interviwe http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/061311-mark-shuttleworth.html [10:14] * popey clicks [10:15] i'm sure you've already seen it popey, nothing gets through the popeywall [10:16] * bigcalm beams a smelly cheese to popey [10:18] no, I hadn't seen it [10:18] have added it to the news for the next podcast show [10:19] thanks! [10:19] np [10:19] there's also a bit in the interview where he says that he bought an ipad because of popey [10:20] lol [10:20] [citation needed] [10:21] * MooDoo shakes his head and did actually look for that part of the interview....FISHED IN [10:22] o/-----------------------------(moodoo) [10:22] thats MooDoo on the end of my fishing line [10:23] update from my train company yesterday: "Service disruption caused by a toy balloon obstructing the overhead powerline equipment near Ponders End" [10:23] lol [10:23] haha [10:24] aloha [10:24] hello czajkowski x [10:24] slapping 10.04 on a PC for a friend....still feels good, even on old PC [10:25] + ubuntu-restricted-extras, skype , chromium, move buttons to right and you're done in < 30 mins [10:25] hahah [10:26] (plus delete the bottom panel), and download the ubuntu manual onto the desktop [10:26] even on 512mb it runs sweetly though [10:26] * oimon has some more spare pcs.. [10:26] lol ubuntu on 512mb [10:26] i hope the person never tries to run anything except vim and mutt [10:27] chromium , facebook, youtube, etc all run fine [10:27] that's 90% of av. joe's activity [10:27] chromium in 512mb is painful [10:27] nah..not with 3 tabs [10:27] and that's before you go to a page that uses flash [10:28] 4gb is not enough to run ubuntu these days, 512mb is a joke [10:28] it all depends on your usage patterns [10:28] usage pattern = load firefox, visit a webpage [10:28] my work PC needs 4gb true, cos i never shutdown [10:28] hmm machine is running rather slowly today m [10:29] hmm must remember to uninstall gwibber and install hotot [10:29] i opened 400 720p images in gimp... my computer is also running slowly now :( [10:29] hehe [10:29] lol [10:30] that's only 1.4gb [10:30] is there a tool to spring clean unwanted packages, does janitor do enough ? [10:30] czajkowski: apt-get autoremove [10:30] but thats almost certainly not causing your machine to run slow [10:31] After this operation, 6,574 kB disk space will be freed. [10:31] popey: thank you [10:31] xorg has already randomly rebooted on me today [10:31] :s [10:31] it will delete all your date though. [10:31] *data [10:31] (kidding) [10:32] popey: I know you're not mean enough to ever give someone a command to do that kinda thing [10:32] plus [10:32] jokes about data are not funny :P [10:32] I know where you live and I'd come and kiillllllll you [10:32] they come back to eat you [10:32] haha [10:32] huh... thats the third person i have heard of mentioning xorg crashes today [10:32] gord: I've a ppa in for a fix from someone who helped me fix it [10:32] czajkowski: wow is this the old aggressive you coming back to us? [10:32] but before I had the ppa in it would do it 2-3 times a day [10:32] woop woop! [10:33] MooDoo: no this is me who woke up at 5am [10:33] czajkowski, intel? [10:33] * popey hugs his two RAID 10 arrays! [10:33] gord: aye [10:33] * oimon is having problems converting a DVD to .rec format :( [10:33] czajkowski, whats the ppa? [10:33] gord: hmmm [10:33] hmm, I should just add this second RAID10 to the first and make one giant LVM [10:34] gord: I tweeted it at the time [10:34] lemmie see [10:34] navigating at times via unity confuses me [10:35] gord: see pm :D === Guest73910 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest81422 [10:39] adding his ppa to it fixed it http://ppa.launchpad.net/sarvatt/sru3/ubuntu/ [10:39] for natty [10:40] hmm is there a bug # assocaited with this czajkowski? [10:40] https://launchpad.net/~sarvatt [10:41] oimon: yes or I'd not be doing it :) but I don't know the bug number off === richard is now known as Guest15441 [10:45] cant find the bug I logged as it was a duplicate it seems [10:47] good morning everyone. [10:48] brobostigon: good morning si [10:48] sir [10:49] MooDoo: good morning, :) [10:55] hmm [10:56] somebody who has left and is now working at a bank still has a user account on our network. they are rsyncing VERY private info to their home dir on my systems [10:56] i don't think that stuff is really designed to go offsite [10:58] is it a cron job? [11:01] no, he's run an rsync over ssh [11:02] i run rsync over ssh [11:02] via cron [11:02] oimon: apt-get install -y slay [11:02] possibily cron on the remote machine..none on my server [11:03] hopefully i can close the account [11:03] thats what I meant [11:03] i.e. it could be something that he had running regularly and you've just spotted it [11:03] it's funny how he doesn't think much of the confidentiality [11:04] oimon: it is also possible he's forgotten it's doing it [11:04] or at least to that extent [11:04] it seems quite deliberate [11:04] looking at the command history.. [11:04] slay is your friend. [11:05] i prefer userdel [11:05] slay then userdel [11:06] oh jpds :D [11:10] oimon: Or you could redirect the folder he's mucking around with with an alias and make him download /dev/urandom every time :) [11:11] or replace every jpeg with goatse [11:11] Anybody good with regex tell me why 'kevin.m.young@bankofamerica.com' is failing against /^[^@]+@[a-zA-Z0-9._-]+\.[a-zA-Z]+$/ [11:16] bigcalm, ^[^@]+@[a-zA-Z0-9._-]+\.[a-zA-Z]+$ matches fine [11:17] bigcalm, make sure you have multiline mode enabled in your parser [11:17] morning :) [11:17] Humm [11:18] Whats the Status of NFS4? According to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NFSv4Howto UID/GID permissions don't work without kerberos, tell me this isn't so! [11:19] gord: ta. Looks like there is a special char at the end of the email address [11:22] greetings [11:22] bigcalm, also your regex won't match all email addresses ¬_¬ you may get angry nerds yelling at you [11:22] good morning livingdaylight [11:23] brobostigon, morning morning [11:24] Is everyone aware that Operation Empire State Rebellion is now Engaged? [11:25] agues not! LoL [11:25] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XySGw-g2tyk&feature=player_embedded [11:28] diplo yes === Guest81422 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest74885 [11:40] Is it worth a good bit of effort to set up ? [11:40] Place i work now have nothing bar a smb share atm [11:40] And stuff everywhere [11:40] sigh...Google might focus on being blazing fast with their searches but their MX records validation is slower than a snail for Google Apps.... [11:40] JGJones: negative TTL + normal TTL [11:41] guys, I have issues with skype. no mike. Must I switch away from Pulseaudio and if so how/where? [11:41] MartijnVdS, the MX records was setup about 2 days ago. Validation started last night [11:41] skype points out that i'm using pulseaudio, under options, whether that implies that there lies the issue i'm not clear [11:42] livingdaylight: it's probably right [11:42] I've asked in #ubuntu and the only feedback i'm getting is that this is an issue with 11.04. I'm not the only one it seems [11:42] also, pulse is the right choice [11:43] MartijnVdS, there used to be options in the drop-down menu (in Options) but i see none. [11:45] livingdaylight: the fact that skype mentions pulse just means you manage the audio device with pulse mixer [11:45] which you get to from the sound menu [11:45] skype works for me in 11.04 [11:46] popey, by default; is there a how-to to fix this here? [11:46] fix what? [11:46] that its not working [11:46] go to sound menu, choose mixer, choose input devices, make sure mic isnt muted [11:46] tap mic to see VU meter going up and down [11:47] mike is not muted as handset works with Teamspeak [11:47] just because it works in teamspeak doesn't mean its not muted in pulse [11:47] please go to the sound menu, choose mixer, choose input device, select the mic, make sure it isnt muted [11:48] is that right-click properties? [11:48] are you on 11.04? [11:48] yes [11:48] click the sound menu [11:48] with the unity bar [11:48] where is this sound menu? [11:48] top right of the screen, little speaker icon [11:49] Email from a new contact within an existing client "Hi Iain, thank you for worm wellcome." [11:49] yes, and properties, yes? [11:49] livingdaylight: should be last icon in the menu [11:49] I am easily amused [11:49] last item sorry [11:49] do not try and find the place to right click, instead realise the truth; there is no right click [11:49] popey, last item is properties [11:50] ok, good [11:50] click that, a windows appears? [11:50] yup, [11:50] and there's an input devices tab? [11:50] yup and mic responds [11:50] so you see the VU meter go up as you talk? [11:51] that's right [11:51] ok, great. [11:51] which is why I can speak on Teamspeak; but why not on skype? [11:51] how many input devices are listed in the bottom half [11:51] hang on. [11:52] Internal Audio Analogue Stereo [11:52] what type of mic is it? [11:52] USB or plugged into mic port? [11:52] is it a headset or what? [11:52] latter [11:52] y [11:52] which? [11:53] plugged into mic port [11:53] ok [11:53] do you have skype open? [11:53] y [11:53] can you open the options dialog in skype? [11:53] yes [11:54] popey, did another test call, and can hear my own voice now [11:54] and you have audio devices listed for ringing, and mic and speakers [11:54] great [11:54] so its working fine? [11:54] I swear it wasn't playing nice earlier though... darn [11:55] quality is still not great, but I'm audible compared to earliers pure fuzzzzz sound [11:55] run me through the ideal settings under options anyway, - please. [11:56] if its working you probably have ideal settings [12:27] hi! is there a workaround for connecting to icq using empathy? it's not working out of the box at the moment due to a server certificate error.. [12:32] pwuertz: don't know if this is relevant? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-haze/+bug/676060 [12:32] Ubuntu bug 676060 in Empathy "Cannot connect to ICQ (dup-of: 675903)" [Undecided,New] [12:32] Ubuntu bug 675903 in pidgin (Ubuntu) "pidgin ICQ connection error" [Medium,Fix released] [12:34] oimon, yes exactly [12:35] i did it in pidgin, but empathy does not have the option to deactivate ssl [12:35] there's a workaround in the bug desc [12:37] morning all [12:38] mc-tool update: Protocol 'icq' does not have parameter 'use-ssl' [12:38] doh === Guest74885 is now known as LjL-Temp [12:39] this is the new bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-haze/+bug/795932 [12:39] Ubuntu bug 795932 in telepathy-haze (Ubuntu) "ICQ doesn't work since June 10, 2011" [High,Confirmed] [12:39] davmor2: ayup big xheese [12:39] cheese === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest36544 === Guest36544 is now known as LjL-Temp [12:41] Moodoo and there was me thinking you were on about something interesting with your xheese [12:42] davmor2: i'm not interesting at all, although i hope the weather holds off i want to go take photographs [12:42] davmor2: slight conversation change there [12:43] MooDoo: now you become interesting proving your lack of interest to be a fallacy [12:43] davmor2: pah! [13:32] wow.. icq [13:32] 11317622 :D [13:32] 6968589 :) [13:32] popey: Why you wowing at icq? [13:33] http://www.reghardware.com/2011/06/14/games_review_duke_nukem_forever/ LOL [13:33] icq... still exists? O_O [13:33] in russia apparently [13:33] i thought we banished that to the 90's [13:33] gord: that was about the only thing [13:34] icq + myspace == http://tinyurl.com/6btjken [13:35] davmor2: retro [13:35] popey: never used it [13:47] oimon the game would have been awesome had it come out MUCH earlier...say...over 10 years ago :) [13:48] Think of a story - but don't be dirty minded ;-) http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2011/06/write-the-story.html [13:52] "Duke Nukem Forever is the sum of all its flaws – a truly terrible game with almost no redeeming features." "40%" what? how can you pan it and then give it 40%? [13:53] ali1234: you're right, from that rhetoric you would think it is 10% [13:53] maybe 40% is the baseline [13:53] i guess it could be worse, it could be unplayably buggy too [13:54] It's jerky on my machine :( [13:54] But was fun to watch it being downloaded at 3.6MB/s [13:54] bigcalm: you bought it? [13:54] how much for? [13:54] I did [13:54] sometimes i think video game reviewers grade on a scale the goes from "100% - a really good game" to "0% - being hit in the face with a spade" [13:55] I very rarely read any reviews [13:55] which is to say that in order to get less than about 70% you have to make something that isn't even a computer game, and couldn't even be confused with one [13:56] Is there a difference between a review and a PR blurb? ;) [13:56] I guess most gamers just ask friends etc their thoughts - Minecraft being a good example. I was told it was awesome by coupla of friends so I got it based on that. [13:57] thinking about it, 40% is actually really really harsh, probably harsher than it deserves [13:58] %ages are always relative to the other games of the current day [14:05] Zero Punctuation is the only reviewer I listen to [14:05] bigcalm: extra credits are nice as well [14:06] but they're not really reviews [14:18] popey: what did you buy with your massive CPW windfall? [14:21] davmor2: nothing yet [14:21] co-workers bought ipad covers [14:21] popey: is that so they can sit and dream of the thing that should be in it? [14:22] one of them has no ipad, so yes [14:22] haha [14:23] lol [14:30] * davmor2 prods czajkowski just to remind her that he's about :P [14:31] [Alan Bell] OpenERP Wordle - http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2011/06/14/openerp-wordle/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=openerp-wordle [14:31] * czajkowski kicks davmor2 [14:31] I'm here [14:32] czajkowski: hugs all round czajkowski is on top form :) [14:32] Jabber \o/ [14:32] Jabber \o/ [14:33] who said the J word? [14:33] jibber jabber [14:33] Wocky [14:34] czajkowski: the quote is "Quit your jibber jabber FooooooooooooL!" Mr.T [14:34] Jibber Jabber \o/ [14:36] hey all [14:36] Hey [14:37] anyone know if it is possible to login to a VPN inside one browser only. [14:37] rather than system wide, via network tools [14:50] I think you might be misunderstanding a 'vpn'. By its nature it happens down in the network [14:50] what's the actual problem you're looking to solve? === cking_ is now known as cking [15:10] * davmor2 pulls faces behind czajkowski back [15:10] * czajkowski pours a bucket of toffee over davmor2 that'll learn you [15:11] teach you* [15:12] Azelphur: I'm doing 14.32 Mh/s as part of bitcoinpool.. reckon that makes economic sense? [15:12] * DJones watches as czajkowski gets another bucket of toffee ready for brobostigon [15:12] czajkowski: that the same of that'll teach you? [15:12] * MooDoo waits for the fist [15:12] * davmor2 eats the toffee [15:14] brobostigon: it's an expression!! [15:16] czajkowski: Face it you're wrong it's not the first time nor the last I'm sure :D [15:16] czajkowski: oh, umm,ok. [15:16] a colleague was telling me he has 3000 BTC [15:17] * davmor2 readies gob for more teaching [15:17] http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=That'll%20Learn%20You [15:18] andylockran: noooooooooooooooo [15:19] czajkowski: ok, it interesting, that is one of those thigns inthe english language,where the wording has nothing, to dowith the actual meaning. [15:21] sorry i didn't mean to start and arguement, i was only teasing czajkowski [15:21] andylockran: first, 14mh is rubbish and it's probably costing you more in electricity unless the machine uses less than 10W, second bitcoinpool is rubbish, avoid them [15:22] MooDoo: i think its myfault, i think i misunderstood czajkowski's words. [15:22] MooDoo: tis ok, it should be a given comments between u me and davmor2 should not be taken literally [15:22] czajkowski: ok cool [15:22] brobostigon: I dont think you misunderstood, I just didn't think you have heard that particular colloquialism [15:22] popey: yes, that makes more sense, [15:22] its just a deliberate mistype [15:23] like when people say "pass the suggestive biscuits" [15:23] ok. [15:23] brobostigon: it's not you, it's just the way I speak at times, I type the way I'd actually say it in person [15:23] sorry for the confusion [15:24] i misread "person" for "prison" lol [15:24] see the trouble these upperty irish lasses bring to the channel, oi czajkowski that's you that is ;) [15:24] czajkowski: ah, i see, no worries. [15:24] ali1234: a bit different [15:24] * czajkowski peers at davmor2 [15:25] I'm having a day of IRC woes, Email and now twitter [15:25] so need a pint! [15:25] * brobostigon gets one for himself and czajkowski [15:25] here a pint of good stuff, otherwise known as water [15:26] czajkowski: here have a virtual hug instead [15:26] * MooDoo wants a pint, and does owe czajkowski a pint. [15:26] on my way [15:26] lol [15:30] :) [15:30] czajkowski: one day i'll buy you a beer :D [15:31] one day we'll even meet [15:31] who knows [15:31] :) [15:32] czajkowski: oh i guarantee that, i'll make a big effort in 2012 :D [15:34] ali1234: who to join then :) [15:34] if you only have 14mh then don't bother [15:34] ali1234: what's required? [15:35] a recent ATI card [15:35] ok [15:35] 14mh will earn you 27p a day [15:36] before electricity [15:36] I have the computer on anyways :) [15:36] but yeah [15:36] funnily enough, it uses more electricity when you stress it out [15:36] strange that :P [15:36] who would have thought? [15:36] wow.. reallly? [15:36] (come on.. give me a break :p) [15:37] probably @ £1 per day [15:37] bit less than that [15:37] the difference between 5% CPU and 100% CPU is probably about 50p-75p a day [15:38] i would think it is less than that [15:38] if you have loads of hard drives and ram it's going to use more but that's a constant if you leave it on anyway [15:39] well depends on how much you are paying i guess but :) [15:39] 11p/kWh [15:40] 450W pc would used 10kwh per day [15:40] yeah except that there's no such thing as a 450W PC [15:40] what's a good pool? [15:41] andylockran: eligius or btcguild [15:41] System Wattage with GPU in FULL Stress = 503W [15:41] http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-590-review/7 [15:41] yeah well ... nvidia sucks then [15:41] have you got a wattmeter connected? [15:41] i have a 5870 running maxed out and overclocked and it uses 250W for the whole machine [15:42] yes, i have a meter [15:42] I estimated mine uses 450W [15:42] i have onboard gfx :) [15:43] when i quit the miner power usage drops to 120W [15:43] so sounds about right going by ali1234 's figure [15:43] here you go czajkowski - http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Ml_5DrPnbks/SxQRmEOeBjI/AAAAAAAADpU/dJs2y2wMkBM/s1600/GuinnessPint.JPG [15:44] ATI 6970: System Wattage with GPU in FULL Stress = 340W [15:44] 1 day till difficulty increases \o/ === issyl0 is now known as Guest81619 [15:45] oimon: i'm also running the most barebones motherboard ever [15:45] lots of fans though [15:45] but they only use a couple of watts each [15:46] * hamitron just went to look at the power of his fans, then realised it is hard to read the label while they spin :/ [15:46] just poke your finger in and they'll stop [15:46] fan on my desk says 12V 0.43A [15:46] I'm not messing with it [15:46] haha [15:46] it all works atm [15:46] ;/ [15:47] PWM is gonna make them use less too [15:47] i would assume anyway [15:47] speaking of electronics [15:48] i spent the last two days testing all the digital logic simulators available for ubuntu [15:48] and they all suck [15:48] seriously [15:48] yep [15:48] :/ [15:48] the only one that is even half way usable is incredibly buggy and crashes all the time [15:48] and it got deleted from the repos cos it uses kde3 [15:49] they are all either impossible to understand or so buggy that they crash before you're done entering the schematic === Guest81619 is now known as issyl0 [15:49] * exobuzz installed kubuntu in virtualbox. looking to switch back to kde [15:50] have you tried Altera Quartus II? [15:50] MooDoo: is that just before or after the End Of The World in 2012? [15:50] hamitron: is that for their CPLD/FPGA? [15:50] yeh [15:50]