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| Vychune | o/ | 01:20 |
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| wrst | hey Vychune | 01:29 |
| cyberanger | pace_t_zulu: also, that is an est. which could be scewed | 01:33 |
| cyberanger | and it's settled since | 01:33 |
| cyberanger | just a big amount setting up, I/O and bandwidth were high | 01:33 |
| wrst | twayneprice: I got that warning on irccloud also, all I have done is had it idling on a channel with no activity | 13:19 |
| pace_t_zulu | cyberanger: ? | 14:00 |
| twayneprice | wrst: Yea, not sure exactly what is going on. Also, I really don't think the subscription model will work with an irc client. | 14:07 |
| wrst | I don't either twayneprice there are way too many other options out there | 14:08 |
| twayneprice | wrst: yup | 14:08 |
| wrst | and mostly free options | 14:08 |
| pace_t_zulu | i could only see a subscription model working if significant effort was put in to make IRC easier to use ... | 14:08 |
| pace_t_zulu | but that's not what draws people to IRC anyway | 14:09 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: check out this review of 11.04 ... more specifically unity ... http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ubuntu-11.04-natty-narwhal,2943.html | 14:10 |
| twayneprice | pace_t_zulu: maybe. I really have a hard time seeing me actually paying, though. And at $3-12 a month, that is pretty expensive. | 14:10 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: toms hardware is a very reliable source ... been reading it for over a decade | 14:10 |
| pace_t_zulu | twayneprice: i wouldn't pay | 14:10 |
| pace_t_zulu | twayneprice: but there are users out there who have trouble setting up IRC ... nevermind setting up a proper cloak for protection | 14:11 |
| twayneprice | No, I don't think many would. Now if they want to put some google ads on the right hand side, I'll pay with eyeballs. :) | 14:11 |
| pace_t_zulu | twayneprice: wouldn't be bad if they streamline the connection process and make cloaking automatic | 14:12 |
| pace_t_zulu | twayneprice: i agree about the google ads ... they could be dynamic based on the current conversation | 14:12 |
| twayneprice | It was pretty easy to set up with the 4 channels that I monitor. | 14:13 |
| twayneprice | wrst: You might be interested in this: http://harmanhowtolisten.blogspot.com/ | 14:16 |
| pace_t_zulu | twayneprice: probably easier than an ec2 deployment with a quassel-core | 14:18 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: specifically check out the "Conclusion" ... http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ubuntu-11.04-natty-narwhal,2943-18.html | 14:18 |
| twayneprice | twayneprice: I agree. A web front end to quassel would be great. | 14:20 |
| twayneprice | hmmm. I guess I'm talking to myself. :) | 14:25 |
| wrst | pace_t_zulu: I will read the entire thing later jumping to the conclusion :) | 14:30 |
| wrst | pace_t_zulu: interesting and I think I mostly agree | 14:33 |
| wrst | I do think they will be pleasently surprised with F15 and gnome 3/shell, gnome did themselves no favor with those live cd offerings they were horrible | 14:33 |
| cyberanger | pace_t_zulu: openvpn used a fair bit of I/O, the byobu app is a guesstmate (and doesn't factor in the fact I'm in the free tier) | 14:41 |
| cyberanger | all the packages and updates used a fair bit of bandwidth (not a shocker in itself, but compared to the next biggest use, ssh & irc (nearly equal) it | 14:42 |
| pace_t_zulu | cyberanger: i rarely tap openvpn ... of course it would use considerably more bandwith | 14:42 |
| cyberanger | s an order higher) | 14:42 |
| pace_t_zulu | cyberanger: openvpn is a facility i reserve for unprotected wifi networks | 14:43 |
| pace_t_zulu | cyberanger: my usage of openvpn is minimal at best | 14:43 |
| cyberanger | I'd use it here and there, split routing, but I've not fired it up yet (leaning on ssh tunnels and iptables to get it) | 14:43 |
| cyberanger | but I go overboard on the amount of crypto | 14:43 |
| cyberanger | and generating it at first is a bit insane | 14:44 |
| cyberanger | (but on the other hand, the cost of renting a supercomputer has really really shrunk, if you wanna brute force wpa, you can now, dirt cheap) | 14:48 |
| cyberanger | http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/01/07/us-amazon-hacking-idUSTRE70641M20110107 | 14:48 |
| cyberanger | (the irony there is, the supercomputer is AWS's EC2 instances (the GPU instances are perfect for this actually)) | 14:49 |
| cyberanger | twayneprice: at that cost, might as well get something with more flexability, even it that flexability cost 20 bucks, it'd be worth it, for the other uses | 14:52 |
| cyberanger | such as VPN/Secure Proxy, website hosting, file storage, or just space to test stuff meant for another server (or not meant for anything, but it sounded like fun, so I did it projects (had a few of those myself, geeks nature I suppose)) | 14:54 |
| cyberanger | for just IRC, if they were sucessful, no more than 5 dollars I'd think would be needed | 14:55 |
| cyberanger | thing is, if they do added features to IRC, might justify that (or it might sour the taste further) jabber & facebook is an added value (insofar it's the only way I'll get that many onto jabber, even if they have no clue) | 14:57 |
| cyberanger | but with how it is now, I'd not pay for it | 14:57 |
| wrst | interesting twayneprice may give that download | 15:06 |
| cyberanger | twayneprice: a web frontend for quassel, hrm, intresting | 15:09 |
| cyberanger | (I know I can do that with a web client and setting my client to be an IRC Proxy, connect between the two) | 15:09 |
| twayneprice | I use hamachi to vpn back to my home machine from work. | 15:27 |
| cyberanger | twayneprice: when was the last linux version made though? | 15:33 |
| twayneprice | Actually, I think it is just a couple of month old. | 15:34 |
| twayneprice | https://secure.logmein.com/US/labs/ | 15:34 |
| twayneprice | Ahh, 6 months old | 15:34 |
| cyberanger | still news, but "12/07/2010" isn't too recent | 15:36 |
| cyberanger | yeah | 15:36 |
| cyberanger | (last I heard was the long time in the middle, didn't see the labs area I guess) | 15:36 |
| twayneprice | It is pretty solid, though. I don't think I've updated in probably a year. | 15:39 |
| cyberanger | for a VPN, eh, might not be wise | 15:43 |
| cyberanger | idk, personal use I suppose, better than nothing in ways | 15:43 |
| Xpistos | WHAT UP! | 16:20 |
| Xpistos | wrst | 16:20 |
| wrst | hey Xpistos | 16:20 |
| electricus | Apple Begins Sales of 'Unlocked' iPhones in US | 17:36 |
| electricus | Apple Begins Sales of 'Unlocked' iPhones in US | 17:36 |
| electricus | Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/06/14/apple-starts-selling-unlocked-iphones-in-us/#ixzz1PGk1XJpM | 17:36 |
| electricus | they are ridiculously expensive, but it's a move in the right direction | 17:36 |
| electricus | cell phone manufacturers should eventually be totally unbiased to cellular companies in my opinion.. | 17:37 |
| electricus | it seems like a better free market that way | 17:37 |
| cyberanger | electricus: they are already in my case | 18:27 |
| electricus | hahaha.. i needed a good laugh today.. I'm sure you all will enjoy | 18:47 |
| electricus | http://postimage.org/image/l7cygnac/ | 18:47 |
| electricus | Hobo with a Shotgun - Delivering justice one shell at a time.. LOL | 18:48 |
| electricus | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssHEAOrAdCU | 18:50 |
| electricus | LOL..wow..this is ridiculous :-D talk about cheezy | 18:52 |
| electricus | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LlazPgxKrA&feature=related | 18:52 |
| chris4585 | update-grub should update the menu in grub for newer kernels right? | 19:46 |
| wrst | chris4585: it *SHOULD* | 19:47 |
| wrst | :D | 19:47 |
| chris4585 | it seems to find every kernel installed, but it doesn't show up in grub | 19:48 |
| chris4585 | I figured this problem would go away after installing ubuntu-desktop but I was wrong | 19:48 |
| chris4585 | I really hate grub2 | 19:50 |
| wrst | ha ha chris4585 join the club | 19:51 |
| wrst | really I'm thinking of starting one ;) | 19:51 |
| chris4585 | lol | 19:51 |
| wrst | wish I could help... but it drives me insane | 19:51 |
| chris4585 | I have kernels all the way from 2.6.35-22 lol | 19:54 |
| chris4585 | all the way to kernel 3 | 19:54 |
| chris4585 | well lets see if that fixed it, brb | 19:57 |
| Xpistos | Can I set the VNC port to something other than 5900 on my laptop? | 21:29 |
| Xpistos | I have gufw installed but I don't see how to do it and my router won't allow me to specif 2910 in and 5900 out to my LAN P | 21:29 |
| Xpistos | or LAN IP | 21:29 |
| Xpistos | I got it | 21:35 |
| wrst | good job Xpistos | 21:43 |
| Xpistos | now trying to get my headless server to show icewm as it's vnc connection | 21:43 |
| Xpistos | so everything goes throw my ssh to my server | 21:43 |
| wrst | cyberanger: you want to tell Xpistos that if he has a headless server it doesn't need xorg? | 21:44 |
| Xpistos | only thing that is on by default. i have ports open but nothing else is running | 21:44 |
| Xpistos | wrst: I need it to run Devede. It is too complicated from the command lnie | 21:44 |
| Xpistos | and it also runs my vms too | 21:45 |
| wrst | ha whatever :P | 21:45 |
| Xpistos | baby steps | 21:45 |
| wrst | you can run them also | 21:45 |
| cyberanger | wrst: no, you said it for me | 22:04 |
| Xpistos | Recommendations? | 22:05 |
| cyberanger | atm I recommend getting myself off the clock first | 22:06 |
| Xpistos | Yeah I am going home myself | 22:50 |
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