=== vychune is now known as Vychune [01:20] o/ [01:29] hey Vychune [01:33] pace_t_zulu: also, that is an est. which could be scewed [01:33] and it's settled since [01:33] just a big amount setting up, I/O and bandwidth were high [13:19] twayneprice: I got that warning on irccloud also, all I have done is had it idling on a channel with no activity [14:00] cyberanger: ? [14:07] wrst: Yea, not sure exactly what is going on. Also, I really don't think the subscription model will work with an irc client. [14:08] I don't either twayneprice there are way too many other options out there [14:08] wrst: yup [14:08] and mostly free options [14:08] i could only see a subscription model working if significant effort was put in to make IRC easier to use ... [14:09] but that's not what draws people to IRC anyway [14:10] wrst: check out this review of 11.04 ... more specifically unity ... http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ubuntu-11.04-natty-narwhal,2943.html [14:10] pace_t_zulu: maybe. I really have a hard time seeing me actually paying, though. And at $3-12 a month, that is pretty expensive. [14:10] wrst: toms hardware is a very reliable source ... been reading it for over a decade [14:10] twayneprice: i wouldn't pay [14:11] twayneprice: but there are users out there who have trouble setting up IRC ... nevermind setting up a proper cloak for protection [14:11] No, I don't think many would. Now if they want to put some google ads on the right hand side, I'll pay with eyeballs. :) [14:12] twayneprice: wouldn't be bad if they streamline the connection process and make cloaking automatic [14:12] twayneprice: i agree about the google ads ... they could be dynamic based on the current conversation [14:13] It was pretty easy to set up with the 4 channels that I monitor. [14:16] wrst: You might be interested in this: http://harmanhowtolisten.blogspot.com/ [14:18] twayneprice: probably easier than an ec2 deployment with a quassel-core [14:18] wrst: specifically check out the "Conclusion" ... http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ubuntu-11.04-natty-narwhal,2943-18.html [14:20] twayneprice: I agree. A web front end to quassel would be great. [14:25] hmmm. I guess I'm talking to myself. :) [14:30] pace_t_zulu: I will read the entire thing later jumping to the conclusion :) [14:33] pace_t_zulu: interesting and I think I mostly agree [14:33] I do think they will be pleasently surprised with F15 and gnome 3/shell, gnome did themselves no favor with those live cd offerings they were horrible [14:41] pace_t_zulu: openvpn used a fair bit of I/O, the byobu app is a guesstmate (and doesn't factor in the fact I'm in the free tier) [14:42] all the packages and updates used a fair bit of bandwidth (not a shocker in itself, but compared to the next biggest use, ssh & irc (nearly equal) it [14:42] cyberanger: i rarely tap openvpn ... of course it would use considerably more bandwith [14:42] s an order higher) [14:43] cyberanger: openvpn is a facility i reserve for unprotected wifi networks [14:43] cyberanger: my usage of openvpn is minimal at best [14:43] I'd use it here and there, split routing, but I've not fired it up yet (leaning on ssh tunnels and iptables to get it) [14:43] but I go overboard on the amount of crypto [14:44] and generating it at first is a bit insane [14:48] (but on the other hand, the cost of renting a supercomputer has really really shrunk, if you wanna brute force wpa, you can now, dirt cheap) [14:48] http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/01/07/us-amazon-hacking-idUSTRE70641M20110107 [14:49] (the irony there is, the supercomputer is AWS's EC2 instances (the GPU instances are perfect for this actually)) [14:52] twayneprice: at that cost, might as well get something with more flexability, even it that flexability cost 20 bucks, it'd be worth it, for the other uses [14:54] such as VPN/Secure Proxy, website hosting, file storage, or just space to test stuff meant for another server (or not meant for anything, but it sounded like fun, so I did it projects (had a few of those myself, geeks nature I suppose)) [14:55] for just IRC, if they were sucessful, no more than 5 dollars I'd think would be needed [14:57] thing is, if they do added features to IRC, might justify that (or it might sour the taste further) jabber & facebook is an added value (insofar it's the only way I'll get that many onto jabber, even if they have no clue) [14:57] but with how it is now, I'd not pay for it [15:06] interesting twayneprice may give that download [15:09] twayneprice: a web frontend for quassel, hrm, intresting [15:09] (I know I can do that with a web client and setting my client to be an IRC Proxy, connect between the two) [15:27] I use hamachi to vpn back to my home machine from work. [15:33] twayneprice: when was the last linux version made though? [15:34] Actually, I think it is just a couple of month old. [15:34] https://secure.logmein.com/US/labs/ [15:34] Ahh, 6 months old [15:36] still news, but "12/07/2010" isn't too recent [15:36] yeah [15:36] (last I heard was the long time in the middle, didn't see the labs area I guess) [15:39] It is pretty solid, though. I don't think I've updated in probably a year. [15:43] for a VPN, eh, might not be wise [15:43] idk, personal use I suppose, better than nothing in ways [16:20] WHAT UP! [16:20] wrst [16:20] hey Xpistos [17:36] Apple Begins Sales of 'Unlocked' iPhones in US [17:36] Apple Begins Sales of 'Unlocked' iPhones in US [17:36] Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/06/14/apple-starts-selling-unlocked-iphones-in-us/#ixzz1PGk1XJpM [17:36] they are ridiculously expensive, but it's a move in the right direction [17:37] cell phone manufacturers should eventually be totally unbiased to cellular companies in my opinion.. [17:37] it seems like a better free market that way [18:27] electricus: they are already in my case [18:47] hahaha.. i needed a good laugh today.. I'm sure you all will enjoy [18:47] http://postimage.org/image/l7cygnac/ [18:48] Hobo with a Shotgun - Delivering justice one shell at a time.. LOL [18:50] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssHEAOrAdCU [18:52] LOL..wow..this is ridiculous :-D talk about cheezy [18:52] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LlazPgxKrA&feature=related [19:46] update-grub should update the menu in grub for newer kernels right? [19:47] chris4585: it *SHOULD* [19:47] :D [19:48] it seems to find every kernel installed, but it doesn't show up in grub [19:48] I figured this problem would go away after installing ubuntu-desktop but I was wrong [19:50] I really hate grub2 [19:51] ha ha chris4585 join the club [19:51] really I'm thinking of starting one ;) [19:51] lol [19:51] wish I could help... but it drives me insane [19:54] I have kernels all the way from 2.6.35-22 lol [19:54] all the way to kernel 3 [19:57] well lets see if that fixed it, brb [21:29] Can I set the VNC port to something other than 5900 on my laptop? [21:29] I have gufw installed but I don't see how to do it and my router won't allow me to specif 2910 in and 5900 out to my LAN P [21:29] or LAN IP [21:35] I got it [21:43] good job Xpistos [21:43] now trying to get my headless server to show icewm as it's vnc connection [21:43] so everything goes throw my ssh to my server [21:44] cyberanger: you want to tell Xpistos that if he has a headless server it doesn't need xorg? [21:44] only thing that is on by default. i have ports open but nothing else is running [21:44] wrst: I need it to run Devede. It is too complicated from the command lnie [21:45] and it also runs my vms too [21:45] ha whatever :P [21:45] baby steps [21:45] you can run them also [22:04] wrst: no, you said it for me [22:05] Recommendations? [22:06] atm I recommend getting myself off the clock first [22:50] Yeah I am going home myself