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brycemesa 7.10.3 mmm01:22
* hyperair pokes Sarvatt for a new sna xxvi. =D02:11
Sarvattoops forgot to hit retry on it, it failed because natty dri2proto hadn't built yet02:51
Sarvatthyperair: sorry, forgot to hit retry after dri2proto updated in edgers, it'll build eventually03:03
hyperairoh yay =p03:03
hyperairby the way, i haven't seen any artifacts using sna03:04
hyperairSarvatt: and my X uptime is 6 days.03:04
Sarvattoh amd64 already built03:04
Sarvattit works with chrome/chromium? i haven't tried it in a few days03:05
Sarvattwell since it was merged really03:05
hyperairthat i haven't tried.03:05
hyperairlet's see..03:05
hyperairyeah it does03:05
hyperairany specific website to load?03:05
hyperairgoogle loads fine03:05
hyperairthe speed dial thing loads fine too03:05
Sarvatteverything was broken here03:05
hyperaireverything loads fine here.03:05
Sarvattguess it'll turn into a "hunt down bugs on specific chipsets" problem then03:06
hyperairheh03:06
hyperairi'm glad i'm not hit this time. =p03:06
Sarvatthttp://sarvatt.com/downloads/sna1.png03:06
hyperairoh yeha i saw that one03:06
Sarvattstill looked like that last i tried on sandybridge03:06
RAOFI think it's quite nice that the sna code appears highly generation-specific.03:06
Sarvatttrying it out now, lessee03:09
Sarvattnothing refreshed at all anymore without alt-tabbing under gnome-shell and unity03:19
* Sarvatt pins udev back to 167 before he makes the mistake of upgrading it again03:19
Sarvattyeah looks like the checkout in intel-sna was right before the fix for that landed, will fix it up in the morning03:21
Sarvattactually i'll just patch it in so its at least working, seems to be broken every morning when I update things and fixed in the afternoon.. can only upload one source package a day to launchpad which is a PITA03:29
ScottKWhy is that?03:30
RAOFUpstream git SHAs aren't strictly monotone increasing, so can't be usefully used to disambiguate between different tarballs generated on the same day.03:32
RAOFIe: it's a limitation of the xorg-edgers utility tools.03:32
Sarvattaccording to launchpad 2.15.0+git20110613.aaaaaaaa-0ubuntu0sarvatt is > 2.15.0+git20110613.ffffffff-0ubuntu0sarvatt03:33
Sarvattit started mid karmic cycle03:33
Sarvatterr 0000000 for the first03:33
ScottKSo just use a per upload of the day serial number in the revision and put the commit hash in debian/changelog.03:36
ScottKUsing the hash in the revision doesn't actually help.03:37
RAOFYeah, it just requries tooling.03:43
Sarvattnot sure I agree, for mesa that'd be like 30-40 commits a day it could be trying to narrow down where the problem is and the changelog isn't saved03:43
Sarvattanyway the once a day limitation isnt that big a deal, just need to add new commits at patches if its urgent03:47
ScottKThe changelog isn't saved in the package you upload?03:49
RAOFYou'd include the short SHAsum of the source in the package version.03:49
RAOF7.11+git20110614.1+deadbeef-0ubuntu0~sarvatt1 :)03:50
ScottKThat'd do it.03:51
jussiMorning all. Got a machine here at work that has an "unclickable area". Its a laptop, with ati, and an external screen attached. It makes it fun. :=) 08:26
jussiHe is just reporting a bug now. 08:26
RAOFWhat sort of ‘unclickable area’?  In the past this has been a compiz stacking bug, where input-only windows get accidentally stacked on top of everything.08:29
RAOFBecause, hey!  There's nothing so frustrating about X that it can't be made *more* frustrating by clients doing braindead things!08:29
jussiRAOF: basically there is a area which doesnt let him click there. If he has a webpage, he can scroll past the area and click the link, but it wont work if the link is in the area.08:31
jussibug 79706208:31
ubot4Launchpad bug 797062 in xserver-xorg-input-mouse (Ubuntu) "Can't click with the mouse in a certain area on the screen (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79706208:31
RAOFSounds quite like the compiz stacking issue.08:31
jussiright, so how do we give you more informaton to make sure its that, and make your life easier? 08:32
RAOFIf he runs ‘xprop’ and clicks in the unclickable area, does he get a bunch of information about a window?08:32
jussiit just gives 1 line.08:35
RAOFPastebin?08:35
jussihe has put it on the bug08:36
RAOFOooh, could you do the same with xwininfo?08:38
RAOFSorry.08:38
jussiRAOF: on the bug08:40
RAOFOverride redirect?  That's a pretty antisocial InputOnly window!08:41
jussihehe08:42
RAOFSo, he can look up what process has stuck that window there with “xwininfo -all”, which will include a line like “Process id: 2723 on host Ed”.  Looking up that pid will uncover the process that's being annoying.08:43
RAOFI think at this point it's a bug in that program.  It doesn't appear to be a bug in Compiz - the window manager should never touch OverrideRedirect windows - and it doesn't appear to be an X bug.08:44
jussiRAOF: on the bug.08:44
jussiRAOF: in which program?  the deadspot is there on any program08:45
jussihehe, he added some artwork for illustration purposes... :D08:45
RAOFjussi: Right.  What's happening is that there's an invisible window there.  Which gets all the mouse clicks, and doesn't forward them on.08:45
jcristauxkill ftw.08:47
RAOFjcristau: Is it possible to grab the PID of the process from a window which doesn't set NET_WM_PID?  I've forgotten :)08:48
jcristauprobably not easily08:49
RAOFI guess it'd be easier with that XRes 1.2 protocol patch set.08:49
jussiOk, he is going to try go back to work now, but if you need something more than whats on the bug, please ask :)08:50
jcristauyup, probably08:50
jcristaubut xkill just requires you to click on the window, not the pid.08:50
jussijcristau: as noted on the bug, that didnt help08:50
jcristauah.08:50
tjaaltonOOM killer ftw08:50
jussitjaalton: ? 08:51
tjaaltonmy wifes session was somehow messed up, desktopcouch-service was respawning like crazy, and ate all the memory.. of course it killed _my_ session08:51
jussidont you just love his artwork? :D08:52
RAOFYou might have better luck passing -frame to xkill, but it might also kill the window manager :)08:52
jussihttps://launchpadlibrarian.net/73495608/Screenshot-1.png - its funny though, that you can drag through the area and it works, but clicking on the area doesnt.08:53
RAOFRight.  Because drags take a pointer grab, IIRC.08:53
tjaaltonhmm wait, it didn't kill my session after all, it was just the "change user" dialog showing up after 20min of swapping08:54
tjaaltondesktopcouch still taking 100% cpu08:54
tseliotRAOF, tjaalton: is multiarch mesa already in Oneiric?09:31
tjaaltontseliot: not yet aiui09:31
RAOFtseliot: No, not yet.09:31
tjaaltonbtw, should we start uploading this stuff in?09:31
tjaaltonxserver, xorg etc09:31
tseliottjaalton, RAOF: ok, as I was wondering where I could get it for testing (mainly to test proprietary drivers) and also to know when to upload fglrx and nvidia09:32
RAOFMesa's basically just blocking on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/llvm-2.9/+bug/790204 at this point.09:32
ubot4Launchpad bug 790204 in llvm-2.9 (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libllvm-2.9 (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New]09:32
tjaaltonah09:32
tjaaltonforgot about that09:32
tjaaltonand it also blocks xserver?09:33
tjaaltonwell, mesa that is09:33
tjaaltonuh, mesa blocks xserver09:33
tseliotoh09:33
RAOFWell, xserver will need a rebuild after multiarch'd mesa, yes.09:33
RAOFtseliot: I'll throw the multiarch'd mesa in my aubergine PPA if you like.09:33
tseliotRAOF: yes, please, I was about to ask that09:34
RAOFMan, things look quite a lot better with proper font settings and the Ubuntu font now that gnome-tweak-tool works.09:35
tjaaltonbut when do we get a proper theme :)09:36
RAOFYeah.  Does anyone else think that Awdibitititia results in ridiculously huge chrome? :)09:37
tjaaltonawdiwhat?09:37
RAOFWhatever the default theme is.09:38
tjaaltonah09:38
tjaaltoni don't even know where to change the theme09:39
RAOFgnome-tweak-tool.09:39
RAOF(Although it's got an undeclared dependency on gnome-shell)09:39
tjaaltonok, i have the shell already installed, at least it looks nice :)09:40
tseliotRAOF: so now that you're working on the new gnome-display app, are you going to change libgnome-desktop too?09:41
RAOFYes.  It needs a bit of work to extend the GnomeRRConfig stuff.09:41
RAOFAnything you particularly want done? :)09:42
tseliotRAOF: yes, I've found a bug where g-s-d tries to assign the same crtc to more than one output when not in clone mode09:43
RAOFThat sounds unlikely to work.09:43
RAOF09:43
tseliotI think it's missing a check09:43
tseliotyes, as a matter of fact, it doesn't09:43
tseliotcurrently we don't have a way to check that when assigning crtcs09:44
tseliotso we should check if 1) we're doing clone mode 2) if so, make sure crtc is not already taken09:44
tjaaltongrr, the text-scaling slider is utterly useless09:45
RAOFtjaalton: *Yes*09:45
RAOFBecause it's *too hard* to have a frikking *DPI* number, oh no!09:46
tjaaltonand it changes the scaling in realtime, and the lag is just awful09:46
RAOFEven better, if you hold it down then when the widget reflows it changes the setting for you again :)09:46
RAOFtseliot: That sounds reasonable.  Do you have a bug in mind?09:47
tseliotRAOF: so I guess this would be part of 2) http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/626429/09:47
tseliotsure, I have a public bug but it's better explained in a private bug report09:47
tjaaltonRAOF: exactly..09:49
tseliotRAOF: here's the public report: bug #79175209:49
ubot4Launchpad bug 791752 in linux (Ubuntu) "Can not toggle Display to External only mode (affects: 2) (heat: 20)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79175209:49
RAOFGah.  Damnit firefox, get your filthy tendrils out of my ram!09:49
tseliot:)09:49
RAOFI don't like it enough to give it 1.7 GiB of memory :)09:50
tseliothehe09:51
bryceno n in dammit.  gotta luv englisch09:51
RAOFThere is when I spell it, damnit :P09:51
RAOFAnd between that and evolution sucking an approximately equal slice of ram there's quite a lot of ram pressure on my poor little 4GiB system.09:51
* jcristau hugs mutt09:54
bryceRAOF, we can call it tasmanian english09:54
RAOFbryce: Well, there's a subtle difference in pronunciation, too :)09:55
tjaaltonthunderbird aint that bad either, only 100+ megs RES here09:55
RAOFBut all my filters are in evolution :(09:55
tjaaltonbryce: so xdiagnose 0.3 already has the failsafe/apport-stuff on it, so xorg git can enter oneiric?09:56
RAOFOh, whoops.  Probably a good idea to get the buildsystem to actually *build* libgallium if I'm going to link against it.09:56
tjaalton..and there goes desktopcouch berserk, again09:56
tjaaltonon an idle session09:56
RAOFWhat's still pulling desktopcouch in for you, anyway?  I thought U1 stuff had transitioned away from it.  Because it keeps going beserk :)09:57
tjaaltonthis is natty09:58
tjaaltondunno why it's started09:58
brycetjaalton, yep, I have a few things to fix up to get it working properly repackaged with dh_python2 but expect to have that done tomorrow09:59
brycetjaalton, I don't think there's any reason to hold off xorg.09:59
tjaaltonbryce: ok, I'll upload it today09:59
tjaaltonalso a couple of merges ready09:59
tjaaltonhmm, uscan doesn't seem to work on libx1110:01
tjaaltonno, it claims the package is up to date, but I can't find the tarball :)10:02
RAOFuscan --download-current-version ?10:03
tjaaltonyeah, seems to work better with that10:04
tjaaltonso it checks the git version too..10:06
sithlord48what package do i install for hw texture compression on my intel card?16:54
jcristaui guess you want http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/S3TC16:56
sithlord48thats prolly it thx16:58
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