[14:11] <charlie-tca> Good morning
[14:15] <charlie-tca> We have new images to test today
[14:16] <ochosi> hey charlie-tca 
[14:16] <ochosi> sorry i didn't make the meeting yesterday
[14:16] <charlie-tca> No problem
[14:17] <charlie-tca> You told me before you would be in and out for a few days/weeks
[14:17] <ochosi> yep
[14:18] <charlie-tca> I will try to get the minutes out today
[14:19] <ochosi> k
[14:20] <ochosi> charlie-tca: shall i update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/TeamReports with some artwork news?
[14:21] <charlie-tca> Definitely
[14:21] <charlie-tca> We need to try and keep it up to date
[14:25] <ochosi> meh, the wiki is still pretty laggy
[14:26] <charlie-tca> Oh, yeah
[14:26] <ochosi> but anyway, i updated it
[14:26] <charlie-tca> They are working on fixing it, but yes, it is still slow and gives the failed to load often
[14:26] <charlie-tca> but, so does launchpad now :)
[14:28] <ochosi> yup
[14:31] <charlie-tca> REALLY? desktop images are under 700MB today, but the alternate images are oversized!
[14:43] <astraljava> Whoa, that's weird.
[14:44] <astraljava> Anyways, I'll do install testing today on i386, but that will have to wait until 1800-1900 UTC, give or take.
[14:49] <charlie-tca> images are broken today
[14:50] <charlie-tca> already... using a new build method, didn't get it quite right today
[15:37] <charlie-tca> images are broken today
[15:37] <GridCube> :(
[15:38] <GridCube> :D good morning mister charlie-tca 
[15:38] <charlie-tca> but there are images!
[15:38] <charlie-tca> GridCube: good morning
[15:38] <GridCube> :)
[16:42] <micahg> umm, we're not oversized anymore...
[16:42] <micahg> well, live builds aren't alternates are
[16:45] <charlie-tca1> right
[16:45] <charlie-tca1> at least is actually looking tiny
[16:45] <charlie-tca1> (under 600 MB)
[16:45] <charlie-tca1> but, the downside is, they are broken today
[16:48] <GridCube> drc is MIA?
[16:48] <charlie-tca1> yes, drc is MIA
[16:48] <GridCube> :(
[16:48] <charlie-tca1> I did send an email asking what happened to him, got no response back
[16:48] <GridCube> want me to do some testings?
[16:48] <charlie-tca1> can't test today. The images are broken
[16:48] <GridCube> i've heard that
[16:48] <GridCube> :P
[16:49] <GridCube> just ask whenever you have something to be tested
[16:49] <GridCube> if i can i will help
[16:49] <charlie-tca1> I can do that
[16:50] <charlie-tca1> First things first. Got to figure out how to use this weechat client
[16:51] <GridCube> hahaha
[16:51] <charlie-tca1> It works better than xchat with dasher
[16:52] <charlie-tca1> I think, anyway
[16:56] <GridCube> oh :)
[17:00] <micahg> charlie-tca1: hggdh likes weechat
[17:00]  * davmor2 is sickened to here that micahg chats with wee, words and text are the norm ;)
[17:01] <GridCube> weechat is like irssi?
[17:02] <charlie-tca1> yeah, I guess. I never tried irrssi
[17:03] <charlie-tca1> it definitely runs in a terminal
[17:04] <GridCube> oh it looks prettier than irssi
[17:05] <charlie-tca1> it's the learning curve. Going from Xchat to Weechat is a big change
[17:19] <GridCube> i like the fact that it has several scripst and visual configurations, but then again i like irssi a lot
[17:20] <charlie-tca1> I don't know if I like much about it now. I used it way back, though, and it was pretty good after I got used to it.
[17:21]  * charlie-tca1 doesn't really get along well with terminal these days
[17:21] <GridCube> hehehe
[18:13] <micahg> mr_pouit: so, apparently, alacarte is stuck pulling in gnome-panel since it uses one of its binaries, can we switch to gmenu-simple-editor in gnome-menus (suggested by seb128)
[18:14]  * micahg guesses that's what we were using before
[18:14] <charlie-tca1> Alacarte used to work
[18:14] <charlie-tca1> back in karmic or earlier, before Xfce 4.6
[18:15]  * charlie-tca1 thinks "as in W-A-Y back"
[18:15] <micahg> charlie-tca1: it'll work fine, it just pulls in a lot of gnome deps :)
[18:16] <charlie-tca1> Guess we shouldn't recommend alacarte no more in #xubuntu, either, then
[18:17] <micahg> well, if disk space isn't a problem and it's a better tool, then by all means
[18:18] <charlie-tca1> I don't know better/worse. I haven't tried them both to compare. if alacarte pulls in gnome panel, we can switch, as far as I am concerned. 
[18:18]  * micahg unfortunately isn't familiar enough with it to know if it's possible to separate the GNOME parts out, there is some desire for this in Debian as well, so it might happen at some point
[18:18] <charlie-tca1> As long as gmenu-simple-editor works, I don't have a problem
[18:19] <charlie-tca1> The farther we get from Gnome, the better off we seem to be
[19:17] <astraljava> So, the images are broken? *grin*
[19:31] <Unit193> And I had fully planned and had the time to do all the testing! (Even put it on my gcal!)
[19:35] <micahg> Unit193: I wonder if the alternate images are working
[19:36] <Unit193> I thought they were all broken... I could try it
[19:37] <micahg> idk, charlie-tca would know better
[19:38] <Unit193> I just started downloading if they were not broken
[19:44] <astraljava> Unit193: Well, judging from the at least three separate times he mentioned that, I do actually believe him. Was just messing about. :D
[23:05] <mr_pouit> micahg: hey, I don't think alacarte is in the seeds?
[23:08] <mr_pouit> (because for me, it always broke the xfce menu, because of its OnlyShowIn=GNOME thing)