[00:33] <apachelogger> zomg
[00:34] <apachelogger> we are approaching late in relativity to early
[00:34] <apachelogger> G
[04:49] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: http://i.imgur.com/5ewgs.jpg
[07:22] <ScottK> debfx: Please fix:
[07:22] <ScottK> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:22] <ScottK>  plasma-widget-networkmanagement : Breaks: knm-runtime but 0.9~svngit20110408-0ubuntu2 is to be installed
[07:22] <ScottK>                                    Breaks: network-manager-pptp-kde but 0.9~svngit20110408-0ubuntu2 is to be installed
[07:22] <ScottK> (live cd build failures today)
[08:23] <bulldog98> yofel: around?
[08:30] <bulldog98> apachelogger: around?
[09:11] <bulldog98> JontheEchidna: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=275625
[10:44] <Xand3r> apachelogger: hoe far is the developement of kubutu mobile for the N900?
[10:55] <bulldog98> yofel: Do you have the release notes ready?
[11:00] <bulldog98> has someone found bugs in my kdepim packaging?
[11:01] <bulldog98> apachelogger: ping
[11:54] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: iirc we already have a snapshot for calligra
[11:59] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: have you tested the kdepim upgrade?
[12:00] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: i'm waiting for my new interwebz
[12:00] <shadeslayer> i shall have all the supremacy of 1Mbits
[12:01] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: do you know if the release announcement is finished?
[12:02] <shadeslayer> uh .. release announcement for KDE PIM? iirc promo guys were working on it last i checked
[12:03] <bulldog98> cause I’m going to go swimming and it would be good if it could be released and announced today
[12:03] <bulldog98> the only part missing in ppa:kubuntu-ppa/experimental is kdepim
[12:04] <bulldog98> if nobody finds errors it should be copied out of ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging
[12:05] <bulldog98> Quintasan: have you tested the kdepim upgrade?
[12:06] <Quintasan> No I did not
[12:06] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: oh 
[12:06] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: my string was approved
[12:06] <shadeslayer> ?
[12:06]  * shadeslayer checks mail
[12:06] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: normally you wait about 1-2 days if noone says no it can go
[12:07] <shadeslayer> oh btw X Men first class is not so good ... i found it a bit boring as compared to X Men Wolverine
[12:07] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: you got 3 oks no no
[12:07] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: uh what?
[12:08]  * shadeslayer does not see anything in his mail, checking ML
[12:08] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: the backport has 3 ok votes and no no vote
[12:08] <shadeslayer> ah
[12:08] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: I’m suscribed
[12:08] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: should *i* commit it to kdelibs or will adawit do that?
[12:09] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: I guess adawit will do that
[12:09] <shadeslayer> alright, will have a SRU debdiff later this evening
[12:09] <bulldog98> just poke him
[12:09] <shadeslayer> he's not on IRC alot, already sent him a email
[12:10] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: who is involved in the promo stuff, so I can poke him/her
[12:11] <shadeslayer> no idea ... all i remember is that the've sent a email to promo team
[12:12] <bulldog98> hm I’ll test the install and if it works ok I’ll push it
[12:13] <bulldog98> I have a pc without the final installed :)
[12:16] <debfx> ScottK: should be fixed now
[12:25] <bulldog98> debfx: is 4:4.5.96 smaller than 4:4.5.96-0ubuntu0~ppa1 ?
[12:26] <debfx> bulldog98: yes
[12:26] <bulldog98> ok me needs an other upload of kdepim
[12:27] <bulldog98> if I change that to  4:4.5.96-1 it will be greater I guess
[12:32] <fabo> debfx: you might want to sync kile -2 package. there's a regression reported on Debian.
[12:35] <debfx> fabo: have you uploaded it already?
[12:36] <fabo> debfx: not yet. I won't have time to look at it before tonight
[12:39]  * bulldog98 is now away the ~ppa10 and ~ppa9~natty3 should fix the override issue
[12:42] <debfx> hm looks like an upstream regression
[12:47] <fabo> debfx: you can move forward on kile
[12:47] <fabo> it was a user local issue
[12:55] <debfx> ok
[13:04] <debfx> fabo: do you plan to update qtcreator soon?
[13:06] <fabo> debfx: on my todo but had issues to reach this item on my list
[13:07] <fabo> it can't happen before next week :(
[13:11] <debfx> fabo: I can help with packaging it if you want
[13:13] <fabo> debfx: do you want to fix a build on kfreebsd? :)
[13:13] <fabo> debian bug 600652
[13:20] <yofel> bulldog98: you do realize -1 means the package comes from debian? use -0ubuntu1
[13:20] <debfx> fabo: I don't have a kfreebsd system
[13:21] <yofel> I'll retest kdepim in a bit
[13:22] <fabo> debfx: me too, I'm using kfreebsd with kvm
[13:40] <ScottK> debfx: Thanks.
[14:42] <shadeslayer> anyone around to upload a package to oneiric?
[14:53] <ScottK> Maybe.
[14:58] <shadeslayer> fooey
[14:59] <shadeslayer> my patch isn't being picked up by debdiff :/
[15:33] <shadeslayer> if someone could upload this to oneiric : http://paste.kde.org/82849
[16:03] <_Groo_> hi/2 all
[16:03] <_Groo_> whos taking care of kdepim in staging again?
[16:04] <_Groo_> found a new bug in latest update :P
[16:04] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: ^^
[16:05] <_Groo_> bulldog98: ping
[16:05] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: tks
[16:05] <_Groo_> basically theres a dead lock in kleopatra, kdepim-dev
[16:06] <_Groo_> if you install kdepim-dev it removes kleopatra and vice versa
[16:06] <_Groo_> and it shouldnt
[16:06] <shadeslayer> checking
[16:09] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: whats the error message?
[16:10] <_Groo_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/627399/
[16:10] <_Groo_> and vice versa
[16:14] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: tried checking if there's a new kleopatra or sth?
[16:14] <shadeslayer> kleopatra2 or sth
[16:15] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: nope, there isnt
[16:15] <_Groo_> its a classic cross dep bug
[16:16] <_Groo_> it cames down to libassuan
[16:16] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: are you on oneiric?
[16:17] <_Groo_> i think when bulldog98 made the last change he might have misstyped it or something
[16:18] <_Groo_> libassuan without the 2 is from natty, with the 2 is for oneiric
[16:18] <shadeslayer> ^^
[16:18] <shadeslayer> oneiric has no libassuan2 :P
[16:18] <shadeslayer> they removed it iirc
[16:19] <shadeslayer> quite possibly thats what is conflicting
[16:23] <yofel> it's the other way around, natty needs libassuan2-dev, oneiric needs libassuan-dev
[16:24] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: its even worse
[16:24] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: hm?
[16:25] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: take a look at this
[16:25] <_Groo_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/627410/
[16:25] <_Groo_> libassuan-dev which is in natty main, version 1.0.5 has reverse dependency of kdepim-dev
[16:26] <_Groo_> libassuan2-dev which is in universe ALSO has kdepim-dev has reversed dependency :P
[16:26] <_Groo_> DEAD LOCK! APT WINS!
[16:26] <shadeslayer> ok
[16:26] <shadeslayer> iirc libassuan-dev is the older version
[16:26] <_Groo_> yeah
[16:26] <_Groo_> but it doesnt matter
[16:26] <_Groo_> one is in main with higher priority
[16:27] <_Groo_> thats why kdepim-dev is removing kleopatra and libassuan2
[16:27] <shadeslayer> libassuan-dev is in main? 0.o
[16:27] <_Groo_> look at the paste!
[16:27] <shadeslayer> no, i'm surprised
[16:27] <_Groo_> 1.0.5-1build1 (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_main_binary-amd64_Packages)
[16:27] <_Groo_> its libassuan2 which is in universe
[16:28] <shadeslayer> yeah ... that ... oh ..
[16:28] <_Groo_> but both have same kdepim-dev (with no version number) as dependency
[16:29] <_Groo_> so basically kdepim-dev is broken in 4.6.0
[16:29] <_Groo_> we can always say it was apachelogger fault... when theres a bug, blame apachelogger 
[16:29] <shadeslayer> ^^
[16:31] <_Groo_> ;)
[16:32] <_Groo_> apt gets confused :D and borks :D
[16:32] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: ideas?
[16:32] <shadeslayer> nope ... 
[16:35] <yofel> _Groo_, shadeslayer: kdepim 4.6 needs assuan2
[16:36] <yofel> libassuan in oneiric is version 2, in natty 1, but natty has libassuan2 
[16:36] <yofel> libassuan2 was our package, libassuan is from debian and was updated and synced in O
[16:37] <yofel> bulldog98: so check that wherever you're depending on assuan, you choose the right one for the release you're building for
[16:37] <_Groo_> yofel: ok how to solve this?
[16:38] <_Groo_> yofel: im just the messenger :D
[16:38] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: you wait for bulldog98 to fix it i guess
[16:38] <yofel> kdepim 4.6 should depend on libassuan for oneiric and libassuan2 for natty
[16:38] <yofel> no real other way to fix this
[16:40] <_Groo_> yofel: libassuan-dev in main and libassuan2-dev in universe
[16:41] <yofel> well, doesn't matter for natty, we're building for PPAs, for oneiric use libassuan-dev
[16:42] <_Groo_> you can see in the paste that both libassuan*-dev have kdepim-dev with no version as reverse dependency
[16:42] <_Groo_> see http://paste.ubuntu.com/627410/
[16:42] <_Groo_> when you install kleopatra and libassuan2, libassuan-dev and kdepim-dev are removed
[16:42] <_Groo_> yofel: it matters to me, im on natty
[16:42] <_Groo_> and if this goes into experimental will matter to other users too
[16:42] <_Groo_> when hyou install kdepim-dev, libassuan2-0 and kleopatra are removed :P
[16:42] <_Groo_> yofel: but we have both in natty
[16:42] <_Groo_> i think thats the culprit
[16:42] <_Groo_> big mess :D
[16:43] <yofel> not a mess, just pretty tricky to get right
[16:43] <yofel> and I just mean it doesn't matter for the build, we can use packages from universe in the PPAs
[16:44] <yofel> so either use libassuan2 or backport libassuan from O
[16:47] <bulldog98> _Groo_, yofel: I’m back and I’ll fix it now
[16:48] <_Groo_> bulldog98: hey bulldog98 , sorry to be the bringer of bad news :P
[16:48] <_Groo_> bulldog98: can you explain how are you going to solve this? just morbid curiosity :)
[16:48] <_Groo_> bulldog98: its always nice to see how the pros solve this kinda stuff that gets me scratching for hours
[16:49] <bulldog98> _Groo_: would be easier, if I would have a sufficent graphics card (nothing expensive) but I don’t have money for that
[16:49] <_Groo_> bulldog98: what a graphic card has to do with it?
[16:50] <_Groo_> bulldog98: i dont see the relation oO
[16:50] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: lol i was wondering the same thing :P
[16:50] <shadeslayer> i am rather
[16:50] <_Groo_> bulldog98: im not mark in disquise so i dont have money to buy a card for you :D
[16:50] <bulldog98> _Groo_: it’s dam buggy and I can’t work good, cause it sometimes randomly crashes
[16:51] <bulldog98> _Groo_: that’s a thing I hope to fix in a few months
[16:53] <_Groo_> i suaully make -f /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/utils.mk list-missing but i dont think this case applies
[16:54] <_Groo_> stupid quesstion for tghe pros
[16:54] <_Groo_> because this tells me what files i missed in install, but not the old one i declared in .install and are no longer in debian/tmp
[16:54] <_Groo_> is there a way to compare the files i declared in .install files to what is in debian/tmp and tell me what changed?
[16:54] <_Groo_> bulldog98: ATI?
[16:54] <_Groo_> its the reverse
[16:54] <bulldog98> _Groo_: no nvidia and intel
[16:54] <_Groo_> is there a way to achieve this without doing debuild -us -uc -nc each time and wait forever and then see one file at a time
[16:55] <_Groo_> bulldog98: ahh combo... they can be a bitch
[16:55] <bulldog98> _Groo_: set up a pbuilder
[16:55] <_Groo_> bulldog98: have you seen the new optimus project and related stuff?
[16:55] <bulldog98> _Groo_: no one with Intel other with Nvidia
[16:55] <_Groo_> bulldog98: nvidia isnt bad, i have one, works pretty slick with the evil drivers
[16:55] <bulldog98> _Groo_: no link please
[16:56]  * bulldog98 needs to move the root partion for speeding up the computer
[16:56] <_Groo_> bulldog98: even the boot screen (forgot the name), not grub, agfter that
[16:56] <bulldog98> _Groo_: thats the point I don’t get them installed and I use vrms :)
[16:56] <_Groo_> bulldog98: its for combo GPUS, the new APus.. dont hitnk it will change anything with your setup
[16:56] <_Groo_> bulldog98: why dont you install them?
[16:57] <_Groo_> bulldog98: stallman is that you mate?
[16:58] <_Groo_> bulldog98: and what pbuilder gives me besides a virtual system? it wont help me with this use case scenario i think
[16:59] <bulldog98> _Groo_: just use a proper config I’ll post mine to you
[17:00] <_Groo_> bulldog98: k, tks
[17:01] <_Groo_> bulldog98: but how do i do what i want with pbluider? see what changed from declared files in .install and removes files from an update (lets say in git) that no longer reside in debian/tmp/whatever.
[17:01] <_Groo_> the oposite is crystal clear and easy
[17:01] <_Groo_> this one... not so much :P\
[17:05] <bulldog98> you get an error that points you to it and then you get shell access in pbuilder and the build data is cached so you’ll need 1min to rerun the build process
[17:07] <_Groo_> bulldog98: isnt that the same of using debuild with -nc?
[17:09] <bulldog98> _Groo_: yes you can pass it -j4 btw
[17:09] <bulldog98> makes it faster
[17:10] <_Groo_> bulldog98: yeah i use it
[17:10] <_Groo_> bulldog98: the problem is the finding and all the horrible disk I/O it uses... im just gonna bash here
[17:11] <_Groo_> bulldog98: i cant receive im using a webchat, behind a proxy sorry
[17:11] <_Groo_> bulldog98: send to paulo dot miguel dot dias at gmail
[17:11] <_Groo_> bulldog98: pls :)
[17:22] <bulldog98> _Groo_: send
[17:25] <_Groo_> bulldog98: tks a lot :)
[17:50] <_Groo_> bulldog98_konver: MUCH MUCH easier way
[17:50] <_Groo_> bulldog98_konver: for krita for ex, use
[17:50] <_Groo_> bulldog98_konver: grep -FzZ `cat ../krita.install`
[17:51] <_Groo_> it will show you what he DOESNT find
[17:51] <_Groo_> so i just need to edit krita.install, and cut those :D
[17:51] <_Groo_> i do a for loop for all *.install with this check and ill have a list of what changed :D
[17:52] <bulldog98_konver> _Groo_: ah ok
[17:53]  * bulldog98_konver hates his graphics card
[17:53] <_Groo_> bulldog98_konver: install the proprietary drivers and be happy
[17:53] <_Groo_> pragmatism always loses to convencience
[17:53] <bulldog98_konver> the intel one only does 2D now, Nvidia stuff crashes all the time
[17:53] <_Groo_> convenience*
[17:54] <bulldog98_konver> _Groo_: I’m trying to do that, but it hasn’t worked the first time
[17:55] <bulldog98_konver> now it worked
[17:58] <_Groo_> bulldog98_konver: do what?
[18:01] <bulldog98_konver> _Groo_: install the bloob
[18:04] <yofel> which driver and which release?
[18:04] <yofel> driver version actually
[18:05] <bulldog98> oneiric and the current bloob
[18:06] <bulldog98> 270.41.19-0ubuntu1
[18:08] <yofel> that is supposed to work with 3.0, though I'm on 275 currently
[18:14] <bulldog98> yofel: it works now only the installation fail cause of kdm freeze
[18:15] <yofel> o.O
[18:16] <shadeslayer> !find ide_version.h:
[18:17] <bulldog98> yofel: yeah I had kdm freezes that lead to a un rebootable pc
[18:18] <bulldog98> I still could do ssh stuff, but nothing on the mashine itself
[18:18] <yofel> ouch
[18:18] <bulldog98> hard to hard reset it
[18:18] <bulldog98> s/hard/had/
[18:18] <kubotu> bulldog98 meant: "had to hard reset it"
[18:18] <shadeslayer> heh, just found a bug in Dolphin from trunk
[18:19] <bulldog98> had a small freeze again. I start to thing that it’s maybe a hardware issue
[18:19] <shadeslayer> yofel: do you have neon running right now?
[18:19] <shadeslayer> with all them debug symbols
[18:20] <yofel> no
[18:22] <shadeslayer> fooey
[18:32] <debfx> fabo: 2.2 builds fine on kfreebsd
[18:39] <shadeslayer> debfx: could you do a upload to oneiric?
[18:39] <shadeslayer> debfx: http://paste.kde.org/82849/raw
[18:42] <debfx> shadeslayer: is that commit part of 4.7 beta 1?
[18:43] <shadeslayer> yes
[18:43] <shadeslayer> rather
[18:43] <shadeslayer> it will be part of KDE 4.7
[18:43] <shadeslayer> debfx: but KDE 4.7 isn't going to be packaged soon enough and i also plan to SRU this
[18:44] <debfx> so it's not?
[18:46] <shadeslayer> debfx: it was commited 20 days ago, after Beta 1 was released, so no
[18:46] <debfx> shadeslayer: you need to open a bug if you want to SRU it
[18:47] <shadeslayer> debfx: yes, but the fix needs to be oneiric first
[18:49] <debfx> shadeslayer: I can just upload the fix to natty and oneiric at the same time
[18:50] <shadeslayer> sure, lemme give you the debdiff for natty
[18:51] <debfx> have you figured out why it hasn't been committed to 4.6?
[18:51] <shadeslayer> debfx: it will be
[18:51] <shadeslayer> it needed a string approval
[18:51] <shadeslayer> which was approved today
[18:52] <debfx> ok, good
[18:58] <shadeslayer> debfx: http://paste.kde.org/82969 << natty
[19:00] <shadeslayer> debfx: http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-i18n-doc&m=130806148025343&w=2 << string exception thread over here
[19:02] <debfx> shadeslayer: you still need to open a bug report
[19:02] <shadeslayer> oh ok
[19:02] <shadeslayer> debfx: just for the SRU?
[19:04] <debfx> shadeslayer: just open a bug with a short summary, link the upstream bug and add a test case to verify the fix
[19:05] <shadeslayer> righto
[19:27] <shadeslayer> debfx: bug 797849
[19:35] <debfx> shadeslayer: the test case should say which browser to test with
[19:36]  * shadeslayer fixes
[19:40] <bulldog98> !info kdepim
[19:40]  * bulldog98 got an report of an user, that the upgrade from 4.4.10 to 4.6.0 worked
[19:41] <bulldog98> yofel: is the announcement ready?
[19:41] <shadeslayer> debfx: done
[19:41] <debfx> thanks
[19:42] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: playboy :)
[19:42] <bulldog98> rotf
[19:42] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: yeah, took it from the bug report itself
[19:42] <shadeslayer> so don't look at me :P
[19:43] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: I will defently report this to apachelogger :P
[19:43] <shadeslayer> oh noes
[19:43] <yofel> yeah, I think kdepim should work fine if you're not MoDaX and have like 100k mails on imap
[19:43] <shadeslayer> kubuntu is doomed then, he will spend all day looking at prn
[19:43] <shadeslayer> yofel: or apachelogger as well
[19:44] <yofel> yeah
[19:44]  * yofel opens kmail for a test
[19:44] <yofel> I've got like 40k too
[19:44] <bulldog98> yofel: that’s doable
[19:45] <bulldog98> yofel: I just reindex whole hd (300 GiBi Data) with Nepomuk :)
[19:46] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: I don’t get the bug where is the request for user input on that site?
[19:46] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: whut?
[19:46] <yofel> the amount of data isn't really the question there, reindexing your kernel source checkout will take it down
[19:46] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: if you click on it *now* it will not give you a warning
[19:46] <yofel> although nepomuk is usable here (without strigi)
[19:46] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: then open it using konqueror
[19:46] <shadeslayer> erm
[19:47] <shadeslayer> s/konqueror/firefox
[19:47] <bulldog98> +/
[19:47] <shadeslayer> using FF you should see a warning
[19:48] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: btw is that a microsoft site?
[19:48] <shadeslayer> nope
[19:48] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: so what’s wrong with that site?
[19:48] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: seen the KDE Bug?
[19:49] <yofel> hm, I wonder why kmail shows me my account twice and local folders twice too though...
[19:49] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94867
[19:49] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: I’ll look into that
[19:50] <yofel> hm, 55309 mails :)
[19:51] <bulldog98> yofel: I have 4 times local folders :)
[19:51] <bulldog98> on one pc
[19:52] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: saw the notification and I think I understood it
[19:54] <bulldog98> yofel: do you want to copy the kdepim stuff over?
[19:54] <bulldog98> runtime is already there
[19:55] <yofel> hm, after killing kmail and restarting it the dup. acc. is gone
[19:56] <bulldog98> yofel: maybe we should say, that bug reports should go upstream and that they would like to see user feedback
[19:56] <yofel> we already say the first, and where should the feedback go?
[19:57] <yofel> ppa10 is newest?
[19:59] <yofel> hm, you have a debian/patches/debian-changes-4\:4.6.0-0ubuntu0~ppa1, please remove that or convert that into a properly named patch if it's needed
[19:59] <bulldog98> yofel: #kontact I’d guess :) or bugs.kde.org
[20:00] <yofel> the oneiric kdepim-dev depends on boost 1.42 which can't work, needs to be 1.46
[20:00] <yofel> and 1.42 for natty
[20:00]  * bulldog98 is going to update the oneiric stuff
[20:01] <bulldog98> yofel: have you checked the bzr if there is everything ok?
[20:02] <yofel> not yet, I'll look now
[20:03] <bulldog98> yofel: I guess that’s also there
[20:06] <yofel> bzr at least doesn't have the auto-patch
[20:07] <yofel> but the boost depends for -dev need to be fixed in bzr
[20:07] <bulldog98> yofel: I’m doing that right now
[20:12] <bulldog98> yofel: I don’t know why there is always that debian-changes… patch it annoys me
[20:12] <yofel> bulldog98: if you apply any changes to the upstream source without using quilt they'll be put into that auto-generated patch at source package build time
[20:13] <bulldog98> yofel: I haven’t put any changes to the sources
[20:13] <bulldog98> I think so at least
[20:13] <yofel> well, the patch has modifications in kdepim-4.6.0/akregator/src/articlelistview.cpp
[20:19] <bulldog98> yofel: I think I may have droped a patch, but actually it shouldn’t have been droped
[20:20] <bambee> evening
[20:23] <bulldog98> yofel: worse I droped the patch but reintroduced the bugs
[20:23] <yofel> magic
[20:23]  * bulldog98 feels ashamed for doing such things
[20:23] <yofel> nah, quilt can be confusing
[20:23] <bulldog98> yofel: I think I did a quilt pop -a or something like that
[20:24] <bulldog98> and it made that things appear again
[20:24] <bulldog98> that’s stupid
[20:24] <yofel> usual case for me when I get such a file is that it simply reverts some patchs because I didn't use quilt right
[20:24] <bulldog98> apachelogger: I blame you for quilt :)
[20:24] <yofel> lol
[20:25] <bulldog98> yofel: I’ll reupload now with 0ubuntu1 instead of 0ubuntu0
[20:25] <yofel> sure, keep the ~ppa though
[20:25] <bulldog98> yofel: that was the plan
[20:25] <bulldog98> :)
[20:26] <bulldog98> yofel: but good that you remind me after I reintroduced a bug :)
[20:27] <yofel> well, you almost never want a debian-changes-* patch in your source, unless it's something totally trivial
[20:29] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: wouldn’t it be cooler if that patch would use KMessageWidget? atleast in 4.7
[20:30] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: bug adawit :P
[20:30] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: or we poke agateau to port that patch to KMessageWidget in kdelibs :)
[20:30] <shadeslayer> *shrug
[20:31] <shadeslayer> haven't used KMessageWidget evar
[20:32] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: read muon code I think it’s used in there by JontheEchidna
[20:33] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: or read http://agateau.wordpress.com/2011/04/21/kde-ux-2011/
[20:35] <shadeslayer> oh hmm
[20:35] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: popup seems better
[20:44] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ping ping ping
[20:49] <_Groo_> bulldog98: can you check if the kmail icon/desktop file is missing?
[20:49] <_Groo_> its not showing up in the kmenu
[20:55] <_Groo_> bulldog98: usr/share/applications/kde4/KMail2.desktop is nowhere to be found
[20:56] <_Groo_> bulldog98: ping
[20:58] <_Groo_> yofel: ping
[21:01] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: yofel went to sleep i think
[21:01] <yofel> not yet
[21:01] <yofel> hm yeah, desktop file seems missing
[21:03] <_Groo_> yofel: fix? :D or at least poke bulldog98 
[21:03] <yofel> well, you poked him already, and I'm busy here, sry
[21:04] <_Groo_> yofel: ok :D
[21:11] <debfx> shadeslayer: I've uploaded kde4libs. just two small things: you need to set the distribution to *-proposed for SRUs and a changelog line was too long
[21:12] <shadeslayer> oh
[21:12] <shadeslayer> debfx: thanks! :)
[21:29] <bulldog98> yofel: I’ll fix it
[21:30] <yofel> it wasn't in the list-missing output?
[21:30] <bulldog98> yofel: the damed locals flod me
[21:31] <yofel> put them into not-installed then
[21:31] <bulldog98> yofel: they are about 440 lines
[21:31] <yofel> fooey
[21:31] <bulldog98> do you really want to put me them into not-installed?
[21:32] <yofel> no, just read through them carefully..
[21:32] <bulldog98> yofel: that was what I thought, too maybe a seperate local tarball would have been better
[21:33] <bulldog98> yofel: I put the output of that into a file and went trought maybe I dded one time more than I should have done
[21:51] <_Groo_> bulldog98: ping
[21:55] <bulldog98> _Groo_: pong is already fixed
[21:57]  * bulldog98 won’t be around tomorrow, so you have to fix the things on your own (but there are no issues left)
[21:57] <_Groo_> bulldog98: k tks for the quick asnwer :D if i find more bugs, ill annoy you again :D
[21:59] <bulldog98> _Groo_: you have to annoy someone else, cause I won’t be around tomorrow :P
[21:59] <_Groo_> bulldog98: i saw your msg :D
[21:59] <_Groo_> bulldog98: dont worry ill wait for you to come back to annoy you further ;)
[21:59]  * _Groo_ thinks no one appreciates is hard work
[22:00]  * bulldog98 thinks about not comeing back :D
[22:00] <yofel> hey!
[22:00] <yofel> we're already understaffed, don't do that! (please)
[22:00] <bulldog98> yofel: just a joke
[22:00] <yofel> :P
[22:00] <bulldog98> :)
[22:01] <bulldog98> yofel: btw who is there atm?
[22:01] <_Groo_> bulldog98: quick, ask for cookies!
[22:01] <_Groo_> bulldog98: and some beer
[22:01] <_Groo_> bulldog98: and maybe a graphics card!
[22:01] <yofel> bulldog98: where?
[22:01] <bulldog98> _Groo_: went better as I installed the blob
[22:01] <bulldog98> yofel: In the team
[22:01] <bulldog98> :)
[22:02] <yofel> well, !ninjas, although currently most are busy doing something else than packaging...
[22:03] <bulldog98> good time to start becomeing a kubuntu-member :)
[22:03] <bulldog98> !help concil
[22:03]  * bulldog98 now really needs to go to bed
[22:04] <yofel> add yourself to the meeting page, organise one, and prepare your wiki page
[22:04] <bulldog98> gn8
[22:04] <yofel> gut nacht
[22:05] <bulldog98> yofel: next we
[22:05] <yofel> sure :)
[22:05] <_Groo_> i dont have the time to be a kubuntu-member, i barely can cope with beeing an unoficial minion
[22:06] <_Groo_> btw, i packages calligra git from yesterday
[22:06] <_Groo_> the packages are ok now
[22:06] <_Groo_> BUt is still very unstable in some apps, like plan for ex
[22:06] <_Groo_> but a lot of promisse, love it already
[22:43] <JontheEchidna> as a general note, as I am now employed I will not be available from 13:00 to 21:00 UTC
[22:43] <_Groo_> JontheEchidna: GZ john
[22:44] <JontheEchidna> aww, bulldog98 left, was going to answer his question
[22:46]  * yofel is off to bed, good night
[22:49] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: oh congratulations!
[22:49] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: where will you be working?
[23:18] <JontheEchidna> shadeslayer: software development department of the company my dad works at
[23:19] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: which is? :D
[23:19] <JontheEchidna> Bittware, you've probably not heard of it
[23:19] <shadeslayer> uh .. i think i have
[23:20] <JontheEchidna> orly?
[23:20] <shadeslayer> iirc my prof mentioned it in passing during one of our lectures in embedded systems
[23:20] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: i'm serious :P
[23:20] <JontheEchidna> huh, neat
[23:20] <JontheEchidna> Yeah, they make DSP hardware
[23:20] <shadeslayer> yeah, he teaches us Digital system design :P
[23:20] <JontheEchidna> France and China are using the hardware in their high-speed rail systems
[23:21] <JontheEchidna> for handling the brakes, iirc
[23:21] <shadeslayer> neat 
[23:22] <JontheEchidna> I'm currently working on converting rpm packaging of some of their stuff to .deb
[23:22] <JontheEchidna> and I might get to do some Qt programming once I'm done with that
[23:25] <shadeslayer> hehe
[23:28] <JontheEchidna> So basically it's everything I have experience in and enjoy doing, plus I get paid monies.
[23:28] <JontheEchidna> I'm excited
[23:29] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: thats the best part!
[23:55] <shadeslayer> no sheytan
[23:55] <shadeslayer> sigh