[00:00] Rather then a 10 in looks and 5 in smarts, I'd take a 7 in looks and 8 in smarts [00:01] (given a 15 total score, of course) [00:02] paultag: got a sec for some UCW stuff? [00:03] rrnwexec: sure, of course [00:24] pleia2: heya [00:25] so when is john planned to go on? [00:25] jcastro: in 20 minutes [00:25] ok [00:26] (he can be late, it's early that we were worried about :)) [00:26] oh ok [00:26] awesome [00:26] depends, smoser is being boring. :) [00:26] (j/k) [00:26] hahah [00:27] jcastro: dammit, all the cool guys are in your loco :| [00:28] jcastro: Isn't DBO somewhere near you too? :) [00:28] nigelb: pfft, some are in mine too [00:28] pleia2: between fl, ca, and mi, we have a whole lot of cool people :) [00:30] What about IL ? [00:30] pleia2, can you give rrnwexec access to the Classroom Cal? [00:30] thanks [00:31] rrnwexec: what's your gmail account you use for calendars so I can invite you? [00:31] randall@executiv.es is already on there [00:33] pleai2: that's the one. let me log in and check my access [00:36] pleia2: i'm in :) [00:37] rrnwexec: just be very careful with the syntax, otherwise you break the bot [00:37] so let us know if you add any sessions so we can review it in #ubuntu-classroom-backstage [00:37] pleia2: will do thanks [00:37] (typically people just ask us to add sessions rather than giving direct access - breaking the calendar can break the bot for all sessions in classroom) [00:38] .ics is finicky :) [00:45] jono: can I get an RT on this pls: https://twitter.com/#!/ubuntuunity/status/80782444109905920 [00:46] jcastro, done [00:46] ta. [00:47] man, this event is awesome [00:47] loco driven lightning event = ftw. [00:47] heh [00:54] pleia2: 5 minutes? [00:54] sure [01:01] pleia2: ok he's started the presentation [01:02] so I will just pretend to start a class [01:02] sounds good [01:18] pleia2: awesome, all done. Thanks! <3 [01:18] jcastro: sure thing! :) [01:18] jcastro: \o/ [01:18] jcastro: PICS OR IT NEVER HAPPENED [01:18] :) [01:24] Hmm...I just remembered, lernid can be used as the ultimate rick roll ;) [01:24] nhandler: dammit, you shouldn't have said it aloud :P [01:25] New security bug! [01:25] nigelb: Well, it restricts who can send it URLs [01:25] nhandler: classroom team can bypassthat ;) [01:25] * nigelb plots evil during jcastro's next session [01:26] j/k :) [01:26] nigelb: I have a great image for that session ;) [01:27] nigelb: See the pic I PMed you ;) [01:28] nhandler: TOTALLY! [01:28] nhandler: nixternal? [01:28] nigelb: Yep [01:29] We can blackmail jcastro. For bug fixes! [01:43] nigelb: Every few events, I toss that up on a projector [02:27] nhandler: haha [02:27] nigelb: when are you getting one? [02:27] paultag: Need to see if I can sweet talk mhall119 into not hacking it if I get it mailed to him ;) [02:28] nigelb: bah [02:28] nigelb: it's a good thing you did not ask me, I'd *SO* fsck with it [02:28] paultag: I know! [02:28] paultag: Is it actually worth getting a nook over some of those other tablets? [02:28] I'd burn in a new boot image [02:28] nhandler: Yeah, cheap hackable android tablet :) [02:28] nhandler: Also, e-ink <3 [02:28] nhandler: well, depends. It's cheep (120 USD), and it's fast (CPU is nice), and eInk rules, but it's slow [02:29] nhandler: no audio card, no bluetooth (so far we have not hacked the kernel, but it's "doable"), nothing fancy, but it works and it's a solid platform [02:29] no audio? the original nook played music [02:29] nhandler: touch screen is nice and responsive, but the unit it's self is crap for running video or audio [02:29] pleia2: yeah, they stripped it way down [02:29] But really [02:29] I want to read books [02:30] not listen to music :) [02:30] pleia2: I'm going to rebuild the kernel once they release source to enable Bluetooth, so I can do audio over the line. Turns out it comes with the audio player [02:30] I've never actually used it :) [02:30] pleia2: Now you're not getting a new one are you? :P [02:30] pleia2: the WiFi card has bluetooth onboard, which is cool, but it's disabled OTB [02:30] paultag: Alright. I'm trying to figure out what I want to do for next year regarding computers. Right now, I have a cr-48 which I will use for notes, and I'm looking at a Thinkpad T520 as a new laptop [02:30] paultag: interesting [02:30] it's the same card thats in the Nook Color [02:30] pleia2: I'm working on doing some nifty things after I get Nookie working [02:30] :) [02:31] nigelb: did you just give up on sleep? [02:31] nhandler: that sounds about right [02:31] mhall119: Yeah. [02:31] pleia2: it's so close, but I know such little android that GUI development is going *SO SLOWLY* [02:31] 01:27 < nigelb> its too bright! [02:31] 01:27 < nigelb> UDS all over again. [02:31] mhall119: ^^ [02:31] paultag: I just need to decide if it is worth chopping off some features from the laptop to get a tablet or not, and then I need to decide what I'll use the tablet for ;) [02:31] pleia2: the libs are complete, but it's a pain to get all the stuff implemented [02:31] Just got a new laptop stand and keyboard. ebay in the morning is dangerous [02:32] nhandler: the Nook is nice, but PDFs can be hard, it's reflow code can break pretty easy. It has some issues with barfing on some files pretty bad [02:32] paultag: *nod* [02:32] nhandler: it should work in most cases, but not all, and frankly, that's not good enough [02:32] nhandler: I'd not use it for school if it were me, but that's just me. [02:32] We had computers in class anyway, so I just relied on them, and if they failed, it was not on me :) [02:32] Now I'm convinced paultag isn't being paid by B and N to spread the Nook love to Ubuntu folks :P [02:33] nigelb: I'm fixing the mistakes they left in :) [02:33] paultag: "mistakes" or mistakes? ;) [02:33] it's good as a toy right now, I want to use it for real work [02:33] paultag: Yep. Although I'm not too thrilled about spending 2k on a laptop right now [02:33] miss. steaks [02:33] heh [02:33] nhandler: yeah, I was not either. I broke it sophmore year, right before I headed back to school. [02:33] nhandler: I ended up getting a desktop and a netbook [02:34] nhandler: I figured I did not need to do any heavy lifting when I was out of my room, and I was right. Never missed a fullsized laptop when I was in school [02:34] mhall119: I'm actually scared to step into the used books store in my city. [02:34] mhall119: I'm afraid I'll spend all my money right there :) [02:34] nigelb: the way they drive over there, I'd be afraid to step out [02:34] ;) [02:34] mhall119: Oh, you haven't seen me drive ;) [02:35] and god willing I never will [02:35] nhandler: ended up about 800 for the desktop in parts (I had tons lying around, so it was cheep), and the netbook was about 300, so you get out with about 1,100 USD [02:35] mhall119: I should take you on a ride on my Bike through Bangalore city. [02:35] and you have the chrome book, so you don't even need a netbook [02:35] paultag, nhandler: starcraftman's b'day today! [02:36] where today = 15th June [02:36] paultag: The cr-48 is fine if I am working in a terminal, but there are certain things where having an actual desktop and multiple windows is useful. I also need somewhere to put all of my music/videos :) [02:36] wooo, I love that kid [02:36] nhandler: yeah, I used a desktop for that (actually, my netbook has 160 GB, so it has movies and music for hack sessions) [02:37] but the rest, that is [02:38] Well, right now, this is the computer I'm looking at http://paste.ubuntu.com/626997/ [02:38] nhandler: looks like a solid machine. Sucks you have a windows tax on there, though [02:39] better video card in that then in my desktop. Tis a sad day. [02:39] paultag: They had no option to get rid of it :( [02:39] nhandler: yeah, I hear ya. Happened to my Netbook. Sometimes you can't avoid it. System76 rules, but they're hella expensive [02:39] nhandler: you figure we should get a discount for working on it's OS :) [02:41] I'm half kidding. I don't expect it, but in a perfect world ;) [02:41] Discounts are always nice. Although, I do like the dual mouse setup on thinkpads [02:41] in a perfect world, they'd be selling enough that their margins would allow discounts [02:41] mhall119: that's true. [02:41] nhandler: aye [02:42] course, that's the world we're all working towards aren't we? [02:42] sure is [02:42] If I ever opened up a coffee shop or something (not out of the question), I'd find a way to give F/OSS hackers discounted coffee when they're working on a project [02:42] man, this guy cracks me up https://twitter.com/#!/DEVOPS_BORAT/status/80758245744058368 [02:42] perhaps free if I like the project enough [02:43] nigelb: hehe [02:43] paultag: just have them sign something with their GPG key, and compare it to the projects they claim to work on [02:43] launchpad integration! [02:43] mhall119: I was thinking that, but if they just put it on a flash drive, they can just give them out to their friends [02:43] and github and bitbucket [02:43] nigelb: I was thinking that too, but they'd have to auth at a workstation [02:44] nigelb: if it were a USB key I'd love that, they can just plug in and my system will see it [02:44] paultag: put what on a flash drive? [02:44] mhall119: a GPG signed list of projects or something [02:44] paultag: Interesting. [02:44] then compare the sig to lp, github or bitbucket [02:44] no google code for you [02:44] perhaps if it fetched their avitar and showed that up too [02:45] but some people don't have their real face as the logo [02:45] paultag: no, you give them a random number for them to sign, you get the public key listed on their project and verify it [02:45] mhall119: that requires they sign for every cup, which is kinda lame [02:45] mhall119: I'd want something where they can walk up, plug in, order, plug out [02:45] but it's tough, even with GPG [02:45] setup online ordering [02:45] mhall119: for in-store folks? [02:46] too bad FireGPG is abandoned [02:46] paultag: in-store nerds [02:46] humm [02:46] write a CLI tool [02:46] paultag: really, just give them cashback [02:46] sudo request-coffee --sugar --milk [02:46] paultag: or a discount for next time [02:46] so, that way, you can give them discount + return customers [02:46] oh, you'd have to sell sandwiches then [02:46] actually, that's too long. sudo request-coffee --regular [02:46] and you get do a verification [02:46] mhall119: well yeah :) [02:47] nigelb: yeah, but that's such a long process [02:47] but really, requiring root to order coffee? [02:47] but anyway, my F/OSS cafe is a long way off [02:47] mhall119: well yeah [02:47] mhall119: you don't want everyone on your coffee account [02:47] well I guess it's not a system account [02:47] so it should be per user, which means no sudo [02:47] so I guess no sudo [02:47] sudo -u secretcoffeeuser request-coffee [02:47] there's a local hackerspace + creative common space that's going to have coworking + cafe [02:47] I wonder they'll do something like this [02:48] nigelb: It would work if I could somehow get accurate photos of the people who I'm "serving" [02:48] Oh! Facebook! Auto-stalk their photo from the internet [02:48] I wish I had a GPG-enabled credit card [02:48] mhall119: truth [02:49] mhall119: s/credit// [02:49] with cardreads etc [02:49] nigelb: like bitcoin, but physical? [02:49] *card-readers [02:49] those are GPG'd, and credit-based [02:49] paultag: No, like ID cards [02:49] instead of a physical signature, they send the reciept text to my card with a random number, I sign it and pass it back, they send the signed reciept to my bank, who verifies my signature and pays them [02:49] hey, I'm $foo here for keysigning [02:49] paultag: You could use a ~/.coffee file to store preferred coffee options [02:50] nhandler: truth! [02:50] * nigelb takes a stepback to see how geeky this conversation got [02:50] ~/.coffeerc [02:50] export COFFEE_DEFAULT="--black" [02:50] paultag: I might need to implement that next year. They have a coffee stand at the CS building ;) [02:50] nhandler: I was actually thinking the same thing, but with the coffee machine upstairs [02:51] I bet I can get an arduino wired up to brew [02:51] and I only take coffee black, so all is well [02:51] perfect arduno hacking project [02:51] nigelb: nook first :) [02:51] paultag: I have a nook problem [02:52] I have an arduino, but I don't have the knowledge (and probably parts) to do that (yet) [02:52] i just downloaded like 50 public domain or CC'd books for my nook [02:52] mhall119: sure [02:52] nhandler: it's fairly simple to do with a few relays, or a few TIP transistors [02:52] so, now whenever I have enough free time to hack it, it also means I have enough free time to read nerdy/intellectuall stuff (for free!) [02:53] mhall119: oh no [02:53] rooting my have to wait until I'm done with Tolsoy [02:53] mhall119: time to break into your nook and rm -rf it all [02:53] lol [02:53] mhall119: You also reminded me, I need to find someone to make me a basic cli app that copies a song/video to my iPod touch (after checking it isn't already on the device) [02:54] mhall119: it's ok. Take your time. You're a hacker. You'll start to feel the itch. It'll be dull at first (Oooh, shiny new toy!), but then. One day. The settings menu won't have enough options. You'll touch buttons before they show up. You'll throw it around. You'll be back. They always come back. [02:58] heh, no doubt [03:13] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACq6JV4pYXQ&feature=related ← I can't get this out of my head. it's been there all day. This band rocks. Figure I'll spread the love [03:14] Wow. I just went to music.google.com by chance, and it said I was invited. Turns out I completely missed the email yesterday [03:15] dammit [03:15] Not available outside of US [03:16] nigelb: Try Grooveshark [03:18] nhandler: huh, me too! I don't think I got an email... [03:18] * pleia2 headscratch [03:19] pleia2: Search your email. I didn't remember seeing it either. [03:20] was filtered strangely [03:20] nhandler: I use grooveshark often, but I thought google music would have been cool :) [03:21] nigelb: The interface works a bit better (and the free music selection is not too bad), but other than that, not too different [03:21] * nhandler really wants a site that does videos [03:45] you mean MTV? [03:53] heh [03:53] mtv does videos now? [03:54] s/now/15 years ago/ [03:54] yeah back in the day they did [04:36] hey IdleOne [04:36] howareya? Long time no see [06:37] http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/06/15/metal-free-software-song-2-this-time-its-personal/ [06:37] :-) [06:43] ah, I thought that was going to be a metal-free software song [06:52] :-) [07:34] good morning [08:04] good morning [08:10] hey dpm [08:11] morgen dholbach [08:58] morning [09:22] morning [09:22] dpm: Hi [09:23] dpm: for developer.ubuntu.com, do you have a style guide or an example article for me to write a new one? (I have a WI) [09:24] hi nigelb, not yet, but if you want to start with it, perhaps we can use yours to create that reference article. What do you think? [09:24] dpm: heh, ok, so what are we focusing on? GUI applications right? [09:26] nigelb, yeah, yours was on python, so perhaps writing a "Hello Ubuntu" app with quickly. Or something slightly different and more exciting... [09:26] dpm: I'll see what I can come up with today :) [09:27] dpm: I'll probably do 3 or 4 iterations before its perfect, but I'd like to start. [09:28] nigelb, sounds excellent :) [09:28] :) [09:49] todays annoying bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/681596 [09:49] Ubuntu bug 681596 in ubuntu-community-webthemes/light-drupal-theme "light-drupal-theme contains hardcoded resources" [Undecided,Fix committed] [09:56] czajkowski: How do you want to see it fixed? [09:56] like, I can either talk to the guys involved or help do it myself. [09:56] i'm trying to read the scroll back in -website [09:56] basically lococouncil has a blog [09:56] we wanted to theme it [09:57] but seemingly we cant upload this theme to wp [09:57] wp.com [09:57] yes, because of trademark. [09:57] yes which is a bit of a pita from our point [09:57] so we can a) theme it any old way [09:58] b) just try and get blog hosted on a canonical server so we can get it uploaded there [09:58] lotta hassle [09:58] and just flipping annoying [09:58] I agree :( [09:59] If there is a way I can help with this process, let me know. [09:59] I'd be happy to be involved in any way [09:59] thank [10:01] I'm waiting on an RT so we can think about using the theme for our loco. [10:01] head_victim: got a rt number [10:01] 16894 [10:01] so in the mood to do anything else bar stuff i need to do [10:02] this will distract me [10:02] Being worked on apparently, I just asked for an update recently. [10:02] Just thought I'd throw it out there as seemed semi-related [10:05] done [10:06] Cheers, I realise it's provided as a service and I'm not one to complain, was just hoping it hadn't been left in a corner is all. [10:09] dholbach: \o/ We're doing lightning talks this time too :) [10:09] nigelb, yeah, I added a placeholder session already :) [10:10] head_victim: it's not [10:10] dholbach: It was seriously good last time (despite me having to stay up till 0330) [10:10] but the thing you want effects a lotta things so i guess 3 weeks wasn't enough testing [10:11] Yeah, I'm not sure who uses canonical hosting and who doesn't (seems quite varied) but they didn't even seem to be overly aware of the community drupal theme when I brought it up. [10:11] nigelb, yeah, that's unfortunate :/ [10:12] dholbach: considering I often sleep at 0400 and 0430, not really :P [10:12] And in my research all the non canonical hosted ones look most like the new theme and the canonical hosted ones look dated. So trying to get my loco excited about it again I thought a refresh was in order. [10:12] nigelb, yeah, you're just a bit special :) [10:12] hehe [10:13] btw, Brian is awesome. [10:13] Brian Thompson [10:13] I think he works for Online Services [10:13] He wrote a selinium script to catch all the library change build failures. [10:13] We should have the list today [10:19] nice === daker_ is now known as daker [10:58] hey everyone, if your language is not listed in the table https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/LanguagePackUpdatesQA - do you think you could install the language packs in natty-proposed + Firefox 5, quickly test them and add the feedback there? [10:59] there are instructions on that page on how to do the test, and by doing this you'll be providing fresh translations for thousands of people [10:59] so any help will be appreciated, thanks! [12:23] paultag: I'm on a roll [13:32] morning! [13:32] hey jcastro, good morning! === jcastro changed the topic of #ubuntu-community-team to: Work Items: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/canonical-community.html || Things to work on (in order): Blueprints and Work Items|| dholbach's channel: http://goo.gl/9xNTd || dpm's channel: http://goo.gl/o2lR5" || Our Soundtrack: http://outloud.fm/UbuntuAllstars [13:35] * dholbach hugs kim0 [13:35] hehe [13:36] * dholbach hugs dpm [13:36] you guys rock! :) [13:36] * dpm hugs dholbach ;) [13:37] gah [13:37] dholbach: jcastro dpm ye have mail can one of you forward it to kim0 I forgot his address [13:37] thanks [13:37] sorry kim0 [13:37] yeah :) [13:38] I thought .. I'm right here :) [13:39] czajkowski, kim0, done [13:39] dpm: thank you [13:40] czajkowski, same as his nick + @ ubuntu.com [13:40] kim0: sorry I didn't have your address in my address book [13:40] will know for future [13:40] czajkowski: oh np [13:40] czajkowski, btw, thanks for the tips! [13:40] dpm: np [13:42] czajkowski: thanks for that, that's awesome [13:42] no worries just some small snippets [13:43] thaks a lot czajkowski! :) [13:43] I've forwarded the tea part to mvo [13:44] :) [13:44] forward it onto anyone [13:44] I am debating just forwarding it to -platform internally [13:44] I know some folks liek TEa and those 2 places are great [13:45] jcastro: can do I've sent it to some lp folks and others I know but didnt want to spam folks [13:45] and may want to take out the slapper face jacks bit :s [13:46] I'll just put it on the wiki later [13:48] :) [14:20] paultag: http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/15/starbucks-rolls-out-mobile-payment-app-for-android-users-java-j/ [14:33] If anyone wants to rock out today: http://outloud.fm/UbuntuAllstars [15:05] jcastro: someone should compile a UDS Greatest Hits album [15:05] and put it up on the U1 Music Store [15:06] mhall119: This will top the list of UDS hits http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E2j-YS_yeo [15:06] Or alternatively, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Rq29cqNv0U [15:07] someone should really make Rock'n'Roll Nerd CoC-friendly and sing that at the next UDS Allstars [15:07] oh god [15:08] times I wish YT had deletion [15:08] heh [15:08] * vish thinks jcastro is in "DELETE the web" mode ;) [15:09] jcastro: Bribe scott, that might work. [15:09] Forums delete, LP delete, YT delete ;p [15:09] :D [15:10] wiki delete [15:42] mhall119: buhahaha [15:59] hey so [15:59] how do I get write access to the fridge calendar? [15:59] can someone make me food ! [16:00] mhall119: can I have your wife please [16:00] jcastro: talk nicely to pleia2 :) [16:00] oh I get it [16:00] need to be signed in with a U or C account [16:01] your c account is the one that's on there [16:02] (I think - akgraner and nhandler are admins, they can chcek for sure) [16:02] I'm in, ta [16:02] :) [16:07] czajkowski: I'm kind of fond of her, not sure I'll give her up [16:08] ^^ that is getting pasted to her :P [16:08] czajkowski: but come visit and she'll feed you [16:08] cheese grits! [16:09] heh the grits broke Riddell's brain. i told him it's like porridge from corn [16:09] we had that a couple nights ago [16:09] lol [16:09] haha [16:09] minus the cheese yes grits please [16:09] grits without cheese? [16:09] and some of the bbq ribs that just fell off the bone [16:09] apparently when he hears "porridge" he thinks "muesli" so he goes "my family makes artisan porridge. this is NOT porridge!" [16:09] mhall119: czajkowski doesn't like cheese. she's a bit odd like that. [16:09] jcastro: But you should still be able to add events even without having direct access [16:10] Pendulum: except on pasta [16:10] thenn I agree i need it [16:10] with a normal jorge.castro@gmail account? [16:10] jcastro: invite the calender to your event. [16:10] something like that [16:10] its documented somewhere [16:10] grits without cheese is like tea without ice [16:10] But I don't have the ability to manage charing on that calendar pleia2, jcastro [16:11] but, tea with ice sounds blasphemous [16:11] s/blasphemous/delicious/ [16:11] czajkowski: spam, buhahaha [16:12] paultag: so help me tagg I am gonna go there and kick your behind! [16:12] czajkowski: enjoy your 20 emails >:D [16:12] czajkowski: I make my own chili powder now, so the ribs are even better [16:12] whoever has doubts about bbq should hereforth be refered to zack pfeffer [16:12] all I've had all day is tea and toast and emails want nice food [16:12] nigelb / jcastro: is this what you're looking for https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fridge/Calendar ? [16:12] I'm sure mhall119 and zach taught me all about bbq now. [16:13] yeah I followed that [16:13] Pendulum: YES! [16:13] but whatever, logging in with my canonical account worked [16:13] mhall119: or iced tea without sugar! [16:13] (grumble grumble wish google had better multiaccount support) [16:13] mhall119: but actually...i cant much say that...as i like grits just fine on their own [16:13] maco: I drink mine without sugar [16:13]