[15:16] <tdr112> afternoon all
[15:17] <tdr112> irc meeting tonight
[15:22] <czajkowski> aloha
[15:23] <tdr112> hey cztab
[15:30] <czajkowski> week booked in ireland for July
[15:40] <slashtom> oh? when in july?
[15:41] <czajkowski> 4-8th
[15:41] <czajkowski> be in dublin one of the 5-8 days
[15:43] <slashtom> can we get together and steal cztab's ID to prevent her leaving?
[15:43] <czajkowski> heh
[15:49] <slashtom> should we arrange an ubuntu hour for when you're over?
[15:50] <czajkowski> I'll let you know closer to the date as it depends on an apointment in dublin what day I'm there if that's ok
[15:51] <slashtom> sure
[16:47] <czajkowski> ebel: http://www.kindle-maps.com/blog/yes-it-is-possible-to-cross-dublin-without-passing-a-pub.html
[16:47] <czajkowski> is making its way through ubuntu channels
[16:47] <ebel> indeed.
[16:47] <ebel> that in fact, would be me who did that
[16:48] <ebel> Was just talking to a journalist and getting photographed.
[16:48]  * ebel shall have to look in papers tomorrow
[16:51] <czajkowski> :D
[16:51] <czajkowski> so adding that bto the ubunut ie team report :D
[16:51] <ebel> sure :)
[16:51] <ebel> openstreetmap is open data.
[19:54] <tdr112> evening
[19:55] <airurando> evening tdr112
[19:55] <ebel> ello
[19:58] <infoturtle> how do guys
[20:02] <airurando> who is going to chair?
[20:03] <ebel> I could... if no-one else wants to
[20:03] <infoturtle> go for it!
[20:03] <tdr112> go for it
[20:03] <ebel> ok
[20:03] <ebel> #startmeeting
[20:03] <MootBot> Meeting started at 14:03. The chair is ebel.
[20:03] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[20:04] <ebel> [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrishTeam/IRCMeetings/2011-06-15
[20:04] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrishTeam/IRCMeetings/2011-06-15
[20:04] <ebel> our agenda
[20:04] <ebel> [topic] Review of previous action items
[20:04] <MootBot> New Topic:  Review of previous action items
[20:04] <ebel> who wants to talk on that?
[20:05] <airurando> there was only one from may
[20:06] <airurando> ebel    tog, dublin meetup 2pm saturday for hackathon to work on reapproval page
[20:06] <airurando> tdr112 and I did meet up at TOG with czajkowski online
[20:07] <airurando> progress was made.
[20:07] <tdr112> a lot of work done more to do
[20:07] <infoturtle> hooray for progress!
[20:07] <airurando> I know ebel did some fancy work also on the reapproval page
[20:07]  * tdr112 still has to do the work he said he would 
[20:07] <airurando> page is at:
[20:07] <airurando> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrishTeam/IrishTeamReApprovalApplication
[20:07] <ebel> cool
[20:08] <ebel> (re-approval is later on agenda, we can talk then)
[20:08] <airurando> exactly
[20:08] <airurando> just about to say that.
[20:09] <airurando> that ends it for the reviow of previous action items.
[20:09] <airurando> *review
[20:10] <airurando> shall we move on ebel?
[20:10] <ebel> [topic] June Geeknic: Post-event review
[20:10] <MootBot> New Topic:  June Geeknic: Post-event review
[20:10] <airurando> very quick.
[20:11] <tdr112> a few new faces , which was good
[20:11] <tdr112> airurando: has photos
[20:11] <infoturtle> :D
[20:11] <airurando> Geeknic took place during the lunch hour of 3DCamp in Limerick on Sat 11 Jun 11.
[20:11] <infoturtle> good to hear it went well
[20:11] <airurando> photos here: http://pix.ie/ubuntuie/album/412636
[20:12] <airurando> 3DCamp was very enjoyable and while the geeknic was short and small it was good fun.
[20:13] <airurando> I recommend this kind of regional event whenever the opportunity arises.
[20:13] <airurando> tdr112 gave a presentation at this barcamp and he was excellent.
[20:14] <airurando> details of the event can be found at  http://3dcamp.barcamp.ie/
[20:14] <airurando> that it for this one from me.
[20:14]  * airurando finishes dinner
[20:15] <ebel> airurando: can you take over?
[20:15]  * ebel phone call
[20:15] <airurando> ohis that possiblw?
[20:15] <airurando> we'll muddle through
[20:16] <airurando> new topic
[20:16] <tdr112> ebel: in the paper http://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/national-news/computer-solves-joyce-pubs-riddle-2676281.html
[20:16] <airurando> [TOPIC] August Geeknic: Initial discussion
[20:17] <airurando> thoughts on the August Geeknic anyone?
[20:17] <airurando> Dublin I suppose?
[20:18] <airurando> leaving out the bank holiday leaves:
[20:18] <airurando> 12,13,14th
[20:18] <airurando> 19,20,21st
[20:18] <airurando> 26,27,28th
[20:19] <infoturtle> just starting the ball here, I'm down for any of those and will make this one
[20:19] <slashtom> poll it?
[20:19] <infoturtle> not picky on the date
[20:19] <slashtom> doodle
[20:19] <infoturtle> poll might be best
[20:19] <airurando> yeah we can doodle.
[20:19] <slashtom> location?
[20:20] <airurando> do we agree to leave the bank holiday off the list?
[20:20] <slashtom> aye
[20:20] <infoturtle> sure
[20:20] <airurando> slashtom: location suggestion?
[20:20] <infoturtle> I've always been a fan of easter island, but it's a bit away
[20:21] <airurando> tdr112 any ideas?
[20:21] <slashtom> how about walk then geeknic?
[20:21] <slashtom> greystones to bray?
[20:21] <airurando> how far is that?
[20:21] <slashtom> iirc tdr112 has done that walk
[20:22] <ebel> 1 or 2 hr walk iirc
[20:22]  * ebel off phone
[20:22] <airurando> and geeknic in Bray?
[20:22] <airurando> back to you ebel
[20:22] <slashtom> or greystones, both have dart stations
[20:22] <tdr112> gtg
[20:23] <airurando> I'm happy with whatever is decided
[20:23] <infoturtle> sounds like a class plan!
[20:23] <ebel> [agreed] poll for date of august geeknic
[20:23] <MootBot> AGREED received:  poll for date of august geeknic
[20:23]  * airurando only has small chance of making this one anyway)
[20:24] <airurando> I'll set up the poll (assuming it is easy) I'll chat to slashtom if I get stuck
[20:24] <ebel> location as a poll? people might add new ones?
[20:24] <ebel> doodle is very easy to use and set up
[20:25] <airurando> weather was ebel will you do it so please
[20:25] <ebel> i'll do the poll(s)
[20:25] <ebel> next topic?
[20:25] <airurando> yeah
[20:25] <ebel> [topic] LoCo Reapproval Application update
[20:25] <MootBot> New Topic:  LoCo Reapproval Application update
[20:25] <airurando> some discussion earlier.
[20:25] <airurando> now to the nitty gritty
[20:26] <airurando> I reckon the experience section is good as is.
[20:26] <airurando> I believe we need to fleash out the roadmap section as much as we are comfortable with.
[20:27] <airurando> I suggest keeping it very high level
[20:27] <airurando> tdr112 has this on his to do list but I think we should all chip in
[20:28] <czajkowski> aloha
[20:28] <airurando> czajkowski chatted to me on this recently
[20:28] <ebel> FYI I got an email from launchpad saying ubuntu-ie will expire from approved-team group in a few days
[20:29] <ebel> on 2011-06-22. i'm guessing that's 2 years after we approved
[20:29] <airurando> I reckon we should complete the roadmap and submit shortly
[20:29] <czajkowski> yes
[20:29] <ebel> i wouldn't worry about it too much
[20:29] <czajkowski> well ye will expire on the 22nd
[20:29] <infoturtle> oh no
[20:29] <czajkowski> but the meeting is the day before so we can go before re approval then
[20:29] <infoturtle> all of us?
[20:30] <czajkowski> or we can give ye a months grace
[20:30] <czajkowski> infoturtle: the team.....
[20:30] <airurando> should we try to get the submission in for next Tuesdays meeting?
[20:30] <czajkowski> tbh the wiki is in great shape and I say yes
[20:30] <airurando> great stuff.
[20:30] <airurando> ebel?
[20:30] <airurando> slashtom?
[20:31] <airurando> infoturtle?
[20:31] <airurando> I'd be +1 for the next meeting also.
[20:31] <infoturtle> meeting where?
[20:31] <czajkowski> infoturtle: on irc
[20:31] <ebel> re-approval meeting next tuesday? possibly.... what time? I don't have time to do much work on wiki page betwen now and then...
[20:31] <infoturtle> can do!
[20:32] <czajkowski> in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/Agenda
[20:32] <czajkowski> the wiki is in great shape folks
[20:32] <czajkowski> a little road map
[20:32] <czajkowski> and tis fine
[20:32] <airurando> ebel: all that's needed is a bit of work on the roadmap
[20:32] <czajkowski> TRUST ME
[20:32] <czajkowski> I do have one massive question for folks though so when we;re on AOB stab me please
[20:34] <airurando> ebel? slashtom?
[20:36] <ebel> well if i don't have to do anything....
[20:37] <czajkowski> nope
[20:37] <airurando> I'll hook up with tdr112 before the weekend
[20:37] <czajkowski> the wiki is a really good aplication
[20:38] <airurando> ebel if you could review and submit on Monday
[20:38] <ebel> though if we can wait, we might get more people at the IRC meeting....
[20:38] <ebel> more to time to organise people to get them there
[20:38] <czajkowski> as long as it's in the hour before the meeting tis fine
[20:39] <airurando> we can start plugging it tonight
[20:39] <airurando> 6 days left
[20:39] <czajkowski> aye
[20:39] <airurando> surely thats enough time no?
[20:39]  * ebel is 50/50 so will go with consenseue
[20:39] <czajkowski> I'll also be there and not voting as council
[20:40] <ebel> vote?
[20:40] <airurando> yeah
[20:40] <ebel> [vote] Should we submit our re-approval for next tuesday?
[20:40] <MootBot> Please vote on:  Should we submit our re-approval for next tuesday?.
[20:40] <MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0  to MootBot
[20:40] <MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-ie
[20:40] <czajkowski> +1
[20:40] <MootBot> +1 received from czajkowski. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1
[20:40] <ebel> 0
[20:40] <ebel> +0
[20:40] <MootBot> Abstention received from ebel. 1 for, 0 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 1
[20:40] <tdr112> -1
[20:40] <MootBot> -1 received from tdr112. 1 for, 1 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 0
[20:40] <airurando> +1
[20:40] <MootBot> +1 received from airurando. 2 for, 1 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 1
[20:41] <airurando> infoturtle?
[20:41] <infoturtle> +1
[20:41] <MootBot> +1 received from infoturtle. 3 for, 1 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 2
[20:42] <czajkowski> tdr112: what's your reasonsing do you think it's not ready ? or you won't be there
[20:42] <ebel> czajkowski: we can re-apply the month after right? or what?
[20:42] <czajkowski> well we have 2 options.
[20:42] <tdr112> i think we need more time
[20:42] <czajkowski> 1) add the wiki application to the bug
[20:42] <czajkowski> 2) we extend the time by a month or so
[20:43] <czajkowski> so up to ye really
[20:43] <czajkowski> honestly
[20:43] <airurando> tdr112: what do you think is lacking
[20:43] <czajkowski> given I look at these the whole time, the wiki page is in fantastic shape
[20:43] <czajkowski> tis clear
[20:43] <czajkowski> details all th work
[20:44] <ebel> majority seems to be in favour...
[20:44] <airurando> tdr112: more time for what?
[20:44] <tdr112> i wont hold it up
[20:45] <tdr112> go for it
[20:45] <czajkowski> oki dokie
[20:46] <airurando> is it agreed so?
[20:46] <czajkowski> count is 2 so yeah seems so
[20:46] <czajkowski> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrishTeam/IrishTeamReApprovalApplication
[20:46] <airurando> tdr112, if something is niggling at you speak now.
[20:47] <czajkowski> only issue as far as I can see is the flicker images missing which I dont know why they are
[20:47] <tdr112> nope i will fix it over the next few days
[20:47] <czajkowski> okie
[20:47] <czajkowski> tdr112: I'm doing nothing all weekend hollar
[20:47] <airurando> does ebel have to submit it?
[20:47] <airurando> say on Monday?
[20:47] <czajkowski> tuesday is fine
[20:47] <ebel> [agreed] re-approval on tues
[20:47] <MootBot> AGREED received:  re-approval on tues
[20:47] <czajkowski> just add it to the wiki the hr before
[20:48] <airurando> right oh
[20:48] <airurando> fingers and toes crossed.
[20:50] <czajkowski> stop over thinking
[20:50] <ebel> cool
[20:50] <ebel> so who is doing the nitty gritty submission stuff?
[20:51] <czajkowski> whatcha mean
[20:51] <czajkowski> nitty gritty ?
[20:51] <airurando> ebel: czajkowski said we just need to add it to the wiki
[20:51] <ebel> who's submitting it
[20:51] <czajkowski> anyone can add it to the wiki
[20:52] <ebel> ok
[20:52] <czajkowski> so if yer finsihed over the weekend just add it
[20:52] <ebel> ok, who ever is the last to finish on the wiki adds it to the agenda for the loco council
[20:52] <ebel> ?
[20:52] <czajkowski> yeah
[20:53] <ebel> cool
[20:53] <ebel> next topic?
[20:53] <airurando> ok
[20:53] <ebel> [topic] ubuntu-ie.org hosting options
[20:53] <MootBot> Vote is in progress. Finishing now.
[20:53] <MootBot> Final result is 3 for, 1 against. 1 abstained. Total: 2
[20:53] <MootBot> New Topic:  ubuntu-ie.org hosting options
[20:54] <airurando> I put this up after ebel's mail
[20:54] <czajkowski> well I can ask BK to do it again if we like
[20:54] <ebel> we can
[20:54] <czajkowski> I know thethomaseffect asked about domains names to be pointed but we needed to confirm the hosting
[20:54] <ebel> cause our BK sponsored hosting is due to expire soon
[20:54] <czajkowski> and then a mail to be sent to RT@ubuntu.com which I'll sort
[20:55] <infoturtle> I was working on that too and then got stuck with it
[20:55] <ebel> a few people (on the mailing list) have offered hosting
[20:55] <czajkowski> nods
[20:55] <airurando> yeah
[20:55] <airurando> appreciated for sure
[20:55] <ebel> However we need a webmaster/webmistriss not a host....
[20:55] <czajkowski> well we have 2 people working on a site
[20:55] <thethomaseffect> Apologies, I'm here
[20:55] <czajkowski> :s
[20:55] <czajkowski> ah ha
[20:55] <czajkowski> :)
[20:55] <czajkowski> thethomaseffect: aloha
[20:56] <ebel> i have forgotten what was going on with the web hosting...
[20:56] <thethomaseffect> Hallo :)
[20:56] <czajkowski> I need someone to tell me what dns to point to where so I can resolve that issue
[20:56] <ebel> what's the problem with DNS?
[20:57] <czajkowski> ebel: I dont know it was mentoned in here by thethomaseffect
[20:57] <czajkowski> I assumed to point to new hosting
[20:58] <ebel> thethomaseffect: can you give an update on the new hosting?
[20:58] <thethomaseffect> The address needed is somewhere in the blacknight CP I'm quite positive, but since I've no experience in repointing domains I wouldn't be entirely certain
[20:58] <thethomaseffect> ebel:  Sure, any parts in particular?
[20:59] <airurando> All well above my head.
[20:59] <ebel> well, i dunno... eh is it ready to go live? what have you done with it? how does it compare to the old hosting?
[21:00] <czajkowski> thethomaseffect: have you seen http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-community-webthemes
[21:00] <ebel> should we contact BK and ask if they can renew the hosting? or what?
[21:00] <thethomaseffect> I seen mention yesterday that ubuntu uk use wordpress instead of drupal. Wordpress is a lot easier to maintain and would fit the site better, since it's mostly used for news. I think since it's not an issue to archive the old site at archive.ubuntu-ie.org it would be a good move to use it.
[21:01] <thethomaseffect> czajkowski:  Had a quick look, though design isn't an issue as soon as domain is repointed
[21:01] <czajkowski> the only reason I would chose BK is well we have some of them on here and on the ML
[21:01] <ebel> you don't *need* to change DNS / repoint domains to test. You can edit /etc/hosts (if that's what's blocking you)
[21:01] <czajkowski> and it's nice to support irish
[21:02] <thethomaseffect> ebel:  I've done a theme, I'm cautious of installing any CMS unless it's on the domain that'll be the one used in the live version
[21:02] <ebel> once we have it ready, we can repoint the DNS to the new server
[21:02] <ebel> do/did you have access to the blacknight hosting to set things up?
[21:02] <thethomaseffect> couldn't I just put up an under consturuction page and link back to old site?
[21:03] <airurando> czajkowski: will you ask BK as you offered?
[21:03] <czajkowski> yup
[21:03] <czajkowski> can do
[21:03] <airurando> great stuff.
[21:03] <airurando> ebel action for czajkowski
[21:03] <ebel> [agreed] ask BK for more hosting
[21:03] <MootBot> AGREED received:  ask BK for more hosting
[21:03] <ebel> [action]
[21:03] <MootBot> ACTION received:
[21:03] <ebel> [action] czajkowski to ask BK
[21:03] <MootBot> ACTION received:  czajkowski to ask BK
[21:04] <ebel> thethomaseffect: well we /could/, but that's not very user freindly, and you can install any CMS on the BK hosting and then we can send users over when it's ready?
[21:06] <thethomaseffect> ebel:  In the installation, all the links will be pointing at the wrong address. It'll be the absolute one rather than the one that'll be used. It's not good from a security perspective. It's possible there'll be no issue but what can go wrong, will
[21:06] <thethomaseffect> once the domain is repointed, unless i have personal stuff, i'm confident i can have most stuff migrated in just 48 hours
[21:07] <czajkowski> ok so atm, don;t we have access to the hosting
[21:07] <czajkowski> so can we try it out
[21:07] <ebel> yeah
[21:07] <tdr112> Kill all Zombies
[21:08] <ebel> we ourselves can't change the DNS, we need canonical to do that.
[21:08] <thethomaseffect> myself and infoturtle ran into PHP issues while trying to set things up on the absolute url also. We could reach a index.htl but not a drupal/install.php
[21:08] <czajkowski> ebel: see that there is the info I need
[21:08] <czajkowski> if you tell me what you need changed
[21:08] <czajkowski> I'll do the mail and go talk to IS to get it done
[21:08] <ebel> thethomaseffect: you have access to the BK hosting, right? can you start looking at installing things?
[21:08] <thethomaseffect> once the somain is sorted out I'm sure it won't be an issue, my own hosting is blacknight and it was smooth sailing installing drupal and wordpress
[21:08] <czajkowski> but I am cluseless as to what you want DNS changed to
[21:09] <ebel> (I'm trying to make sure I'm not blocking anything)
[21:09] <thethomaseffect> ebel:  like i said, i did, and can't until there's a domain
[21:09]  * czajkowski is lost 
[21:10] <ebel> right, so ubunut-ie.org and www.ubuntu-ie.org need to point to the new blacknight host then?
[21:10] <ebel> (any other domains)
[21:10] <thethomaseffect> aye
[21:10] <czajkowski> ok
[21:10] <thethomaseffect> and afaik no
[21:10] <ebel> I'll figure out the details fromk BK, then send them to czajkowski. who can pass that email onto canonical/whoever (since they know who)
[21:10] <ebel> then we'll tell ye and ye should be good to go?
[21:11] <czajkowski> ebel: thanks
[21:11] <czajkowski> if you tell me what I'll email it and then get it done ASAP
[21:11] <ebel> kewl
[21:12] <ebel> sorted
[21:12] <ebel> next topic?
[21:12] <airurando> yip
[21:12] <ebel> [topic] Launchpad team are sprinting in Dublin (from tdr112)
[21:12] <MootBot> New Topic:  Launchpad team are sprinting in Dublin (from tdr112)
[21:12] <czajkowski> :D
[21:14] <ebel> tdr112 around?
[21:14] <czajkowski> as far as I know there is a pub picked
[21:14] <czajkowski> possible the barge
[21:14] <czajkowski> close to the hotel where they are staying lower leason st
[21:16] <ebel> ok. what dates is this? we could have an ubuntu hour? or similar?
[21:17] <czajkowski> cant find the emails :s
[21:17] <czajkowski> early july
[21:17] <czajkowski> as far as I can tell
[21:18] <ebel> ok
[21:18] <ebel> so while away...
[21:18] <ebel> unless tdr112 had anything special to say.... (or anyone else)?
[21:19] <czajkowski> it;s a laucpad
[21:19] <czajkowski> *launchpad
[21:19] <czajkowski> Canonical platform team and linaro over here
[21:19] <czajkowski> over 300 of them
[21:20] <ebel> lots
[21:20] <czajkowski> yup
[21:20] <czajkowski> pretty much as big as a UDS
[21:21] <ebel> cool
[21:21] <airurando> when is this happening?
[21:22] <czajkowski> begining of July
[21:22] <ebel> we should try to meet up?
[21:22] <czajkowski> aye tdr112 has contacted mat revell
[21:22] <czajkowski> from the laucnhpad team
[21:22] <tdr112> i will send the details about the meet up when i know
[21:22] <ebel> cool
[21:22] <czajkowski> and the arangement is for a night in a pub
[21:22] <czajkowski> ah there he is
[21:24] <ebel> cool
[21:24] <ebel> so tdr112 you'll keep us informed?
[21:24] <tdr112> yep
[21:25] <ebel> next topic? (AOB?)
[21:26] <ebel> czajkowski: you wanted to say something?
[21:26] <czajkowski> nope covered above
[21:27] <ebel> cool
[21:27] <ebel> AOB?
[21:27] <ebel> #endmeeting
[21:27] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 15:27.
[21:27] <ebel> thanks everyone for coming
[21:27] <airurando> thanks ebel
[22:04] <czajkowski> ebel: breaking news headingline
[22:05] <czajkowski> http://breakingnews.ie/ireland/computer-solves-joyce-pubs-riddle-509122.html
[22:50] <ebel> yeah tis craxy
[22:51] <ebel> it's all from Press Association. they do stories, then newspapers print them
[22:51] <ebel> (hence why it's the same story everywhere)