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[06:17] <ozysimpson> sorry for cross posting
[06:17] <ozysimpson>  I am not sure if somebody has already asked this question before, I can sucessfull connect my thunderbird to my work exchange server using IMAP, Could some one please advise me on how to get my calender working on thunderbird please
[06:18] <micahg> ozysimpson: if you have caldav support, you can use lightning
[06:20] <ozysimpson> micahg, could you please elaborate please, what do you mean by caldav and lightning?
[06:21] <micahg> caldav is a standard for calendaring, lightning is an extension for thunderbird
[06:24] <ozysimpson> micahg, thanks mate, i will some googling on the topic
[06:26] <micahg> ozysimpson: ah, check this out: https://addons.mozilla.org/af/thunderbird/addon/provider-for-microsoft-exchang/
[06:31] <ozysimpson> micahg, unfortunately i doesn't work on mine, because I am running thunderbird 2.0.0.24 it needs 3.01 :-(
[06:32] <micahg> ozysimpson: ah, that version of thunderbird is totally unsupported BTW
[06:33] <ozysimpson> I think you might shoot me in middle of the road, i am running CentOS and asking this question in semi Ubuntu channel sorry
[06:33] <micahg> heh, yeah, you probably want #thunderbird on irc.mozilla.org then
[06:34] <micahg> actually, they can't help much either, they don't support that version anymore
[06:34] <ozysimpson> thunderbird2.0.0.24 is the stardard centos ships with
[06:34] <micahg> well, I guess centos has to support it, our 2 releases with 2.0.0.24 went EOL about a month ago
[06:35] <micahg> you can try the #thunderbird channel for upstream support and see what they say though :)
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[07:12] <fta> micahg, OOM on radon, again
[07:13] <micahg> ugh :(
[07:14] <micahg> fta: I haven't heard back on my request yet
[07:15] <fta> ok
[07:18] <micahg> will try to poke tomorrow
[09:08] <dpm> hey chrisccoulson, good morning. It's me again nagging with bug 542046 ;) - do you think you'll have the chance to merge the Trad. Chinese translation for ubufox? Thanks!
[09:08] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 542046 in ubufox "Translation for zh_TW" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/542046
[09:08] <micahg> chrisccoulson: if you get a chance, can you look into bug 797533, I posted 2 crash ids, I haven't verified if it's a regression from 4 yet
[09:08] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 797533 in firefox "firefox 5.0 crashes on print" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/797533
[10:35] <fta> damn, OOM on americium too
[13:04] <chrisccoulson> m_conley_away, do you do releases of messagingmenu-extension, or should i just grab the latest trunk?
[13:05] <chrisccoulson> hmmm, if i run "thunderbird -addressbook", the menu appears inside the window :/
[13:06] <chrisccoulson> grrrr, compiz
[13:07] <fta> grrr compiz too: bug 795995
[13:07] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 795995 in compiz "flash ghost in the top left corner of the screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/795995
[13:09] <fta> why did we choose compiz in the 1st place? mutter seems way faster
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[14:01] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: #thunderbird-unity?
[14:01] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, there
[14:53] <fta> \o/ i fixed the html5 video regression in oneiric
[14:53] <chrisccoulson> fta - how?
[14:54] <fta> the hard way ;)
[14:54] <fta> i fixed it before discovering why it needed fixing in the 1st place
[15:00] <fta> chrisccoulson, ^^, described in bug 795171
[15:00] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 795171 in chromium-browser "<video> tag broken in oneiric only due to --as-needed in the toolchain" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/795171
[15:02] <chrisccoulson> fta - oh, nice catch
[15:38] <chrisccoulson> oh dear - http://www.browsomatic.com/2011/06/google-chrome-soon-to-replace-firefox.html
[15:39] <bhearsum> that headline seems a tad misleading
[15:39] <chrisccoulson> bhearsum, it is
[15:41] <chrisccoulson> i'm just going to stop reading these sites altogether :)
[15:41] <vish> hehe! no one told chrisccoulson Firefox was being replaced! smells like conspiracy!  ;p
[15:41] <chrisccoulson> heh
[15:50] <chrisccoulson> lol @ some of the comments on http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/06/adobe-air-for-linux-axed/
[15:50] <chrisccoulson> "I am trying to see why is this a bad news? It's like crying over cured syphilis"
[15:51] <chrisccoulson> it's an "interesting" crowd on there
[15:51]  * dpm can see the next headline: "Chris Coulson to become the new Google Chrome maintainer" :P
[15:52] <chrisccoulson> lol
[15:52] <chrisccoulson> i don't think so ;)
[15:52] <chrisccoulson> i don't mind looking after an open-source application
[15:53] <fta> chrisccoulson, you can take chromium if you want, that way i can at last retire
[15:54] <chrisccoulson> fta - 2 browsers + 1 e-mail client is a bit much ;)
[15:54] <chrisccoulson> actually, 3 browsers if you count seamonkey
[15:55] <chrisccoulson> fta - and you do such a good job with chromium, there's no need for you to retire
[15:59] <fta> chrisccoulson, well, not really, i suck at handling bugs, they keep piling up
[16:00] <chrisccoulson> fta - i know that feeling ;)
[16:00] <chrisccoulson> i need a way to filter out good quality bug reports really
[16:02] <chrisccoulson> i'd say that probably 90% of the bugs we get against firefox are either 1) a bug in another application (but the user happened to use the "Help -> Report a bug" menu entry in their browser), 2) contain so little information that they're useless, 3) user error or 4) a support request
[16:04] <fta> i have lots of crashers i'd like to go directly upstream
[16:04] <fta> but breakpad, well, you know the story
[16:05] <chrisccoulson> fta - have you seen https://launchpad.net/arsenal before?
[16:05] <fta> the rest is mostly feature requests => upstream, user errors. very few packaging related issues in fact
[16:06] <chrisccoulson> bryce uses it for X bugs
[16:06] <fta> nope, looking..
[16:07] <chrisccoulson> heh, bug 766787
[16:07] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 766787 in firefox "No" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/766787
[16:07] <chrisccoulson> i just close those sorts of bugs now, i don't even bother trying to waste time interacting with the reporter
[16:07] <chrisccoulson> i've got no idea what they expect to happen from a report like that :/
[16:08] <fta> lol
[16:08] <fta> "No": "IDK"
[16:09] <chrisccoulson> and that has been manually triggered either via apport-bug or the help menu entry
[16:09] <chrisccoulson> if it was a package upgrade failure, it would have dmesg output etc attached to it
[16:09] <chrisccoulson> and i could understand the "IDK" description in that case ;)
[16:09] <chrisccoulson> but that one is just weird, and we get quite a lot of those too
[16:12] <fta> chrisccoulson, you should add an apport hook with a triage question, like rhythmbox, totem..
[16:13] <chrisccoulson> fta - yeah, i've been thinking about that for ages now, i just never got around to it
[16:16] <fta> dpm, i've backported the lang variants fix for ca@valencia in the beta and stable ppas, should be ready in a few hours
[16:20] <fta> chrisccoulson, i'd love to just have an "upstream" button in lp/bugs :P
[16:20] <dpm> fta, awesome, thanks for the heads up!
[16:21] <chrisccoulson> fta - heh. that could be dangerous ;)
[16:21] <fta> chrisccoulson, reserved to maintainers of course
[16:21] <fta> or bugcontrol
[16:35] <fta> chrisccoulson, http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2386942,00.asp
[16:35] <fta> with a picture, and more text
[20:12] <fta> micahg, https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa/+build/2571072
[20:13] <micahg> ah, an enhancement to your script
[20:14] <fta> the idea is to expose more clearly the OOM
[20:15] <fta> some builders are done in ~1h, some need 5 or 6h :P
[20:18] <micahg> yeah, some have more resources than others
[20:27] <micahg> chrisccoulson: so, I can take dehydra and mongodb, but might not get to them until the end of the month, responding in IRC in case anyone else decides they want to take them
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[20:54] <fta> bug 795995
[20:54] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 795995 in compiz "flash ghost in the top left corner of the screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/795995
[21:00] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, i've been hacking on your messagingmenu extension tonight ;)
[21:00] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: everything ok with it?
[21:01] <chrisccoulson> it adds itself as a launcher in the menu when you start it now, so the Thunderbird entry persists even after you close it
[21:01] <chrisccoulson> yeah, it's good :)
[21:01] <chrisccoulson> you'll probably get a few merge proposals tomorrow
[21:01] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: absolutely, bring 'em on. :)
[21:02] <chrisccoulson> micahg, i've already been pinged about mongodb by someone else who needs it working
[21:03] <chrisccoulson> so i'll probably end up working on it before the end of the week anyway
[21:03] <chrisccoulson> i want all of my work items on that blueprint done by the end of the week so i can get on with more important work related to thunderbird ;)
[21:04] <micahg> chrisccoulson: k, feel free to leave the community items for me
[21:05] <chrisccoulson> micahg, sure. but don't waste too much time on them ;)
[21:05] <chrisccoulson> the fact that nobody else has picked them up is a good sign that nobody really cares about them
[21:05] <micahg> chrisccoulson: we only have 180 devs...
[21:05] <chrisccoulson> micahg, 180 in the team officially
[21:06] <chrisccoulson> but i sent my mail to ubuntu-motu and ubuntu-devel last month and didn't get a single reply, and i've spent a lot of time already preserving applications that i'm never going to use :)
[21:06] <micahg> anyways, not planning on spending too much time, but I think I can knock off a couple of them
[21:06] <chrisccoulson> eg, gxine, which was an absolute PITA
[21:07] <micahg> yeah, I want to see if I can get xul support in eclipse disabled, 3.6 doesn't even build properly ATM
[21:08] <micahg> bdrung: BTW, mozilla-devscripts still build-deps on python-support, can we move to dh_python2?
[21:20] <bdrung> micahg: what build dependency do i need for dh_python2?
[21:21] <micahg> bdrung: http://wiki.debian.org/Python/PythonSupportToDHPython2
[21:22] <chrisccoulson> hi bdrung, how are you?
[21:22] <bdrung> fine
[21:22] <bdrung> chrisccoulson: are you asking because of vlc and eclipse?
[21:23] <chrisccoulson> bdrung, heh, not this time ;)
[21:23] <bdrung> :)
[21:23] <chrisccoulson> did you want me to ask about those? :)
[21:23] <bdrung> no
[21:23] <bdrung> chrisccoulson: i am busy with other stuff
[21:24] <chrisccoulson> sure, that's ok. no rush ;)
[21:34] <bdrung> micahg: pushed. can you check it?
[21:35] <bdrung> micahg: i think it would be good to add a setup.py file
[21:42] <micahg> bdrung: X-Python-Version shouldn't be all per the wiki, should be >= the minimum version supported
[21:42] <fta> grrr, too cloudy here, i can't see the eclipse
[21:43] <bdrung> fta: where should i see the moon?
[21:43] <bdrung> micahg: do you know the lowest version that we support?
[21:44] <micahg> at least 2.6 :)
[21:44] <fta> depends where you are. in europe: south east
[21:44] <chrisccoulson> fta - it's cloudy here too
[21:44] <chrisccoulson> but every day is cloudy in birmingham
[21:44] <micahg> bdrung: that takes care of Lucid+ and stable+
[21:44] <bdrung> fta: germany, but probably too cloudy
[21:45] <bdrung> micahg: feel free to change that
[21:45] <micahg> k, will have to do a little later
[21:45] <fta> bdrung, it's a long full moon eclipse, like 1 every 11y, worth it if you can
[21:46] <fta> it's supposed to be red
[21:48] <bdrung> i see a little bit red in the sky, but no moon. just clouds.
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[22:27] <fta> nada, peanuts
[22:50] <bdrung> micahg: uploaded to unstable
[22:50] <BUGabundo> fta: listen to this http://p.bugabundo.net/where-is-the-noise-that-my-wall-charger-makes
[22:53] <micahg> bdrung: thanks!
[22:53] <bdrung> np
[23:11] <fta> BUGabundo, through it away, or it will burn your house, and your brain cells
[23:11] <BUGabundo> :(
[23:12] <BUGabundo> fta: full story http://p.bugabundo.net/faulty-wall-charger-from-asus-transformer-tf1
[23:12] <fta> it should emit a lot of EM stuff in all directions
[23:12] <fta> bad bad bad
[23:13] <BUGabundo> I need to charge my tablet
[23:13] <BUGabundo> and Asus aint doing squat
[23:13] <BUGabundo> amazon want to refund
[23:13] <BUGabundo> but I want it :(
[23:13] <BUGabundo> until its available in store here
[23:16] <fta> what kind of connector is it? a proprietary dock like samsung?
[23:17] <BUGabundo> a 50 pin
[23:17] <BUGabundo> but that's not the prob
[23:17] <BUGabundo> its on the other extermity
[23:17] <BUGabundo> on the socket
[23:17] <BUGabundo> darn UK
[23:17] <BUGabundo> and their stupid sockets
[23:17] <fta> that big thing?
[23:17] <BUGabundo> its very small
[23:17] <BUGabundo> there are a few pics of it, on the blog
[23:19] <fta> return it, it's faulty
[23:20] <BUGabundo> I got a new one from amazon
[23:20] <BUGabundo> SAME problem
[23:20] <BUGabundo> http://p.bugabundo.net/faulty-wall-charger-from-asus-transformer-tf1
[23:20] <BUGabundo> its all there
[23:20] <BUGabundo> and Asus Iberia has no stock to replace it
[23:20] <fta> yep, i read it, return it and take something else
[23:21] <fta> a xoom or a gtab 2
[23:21] <BUGabundo> LOL
[23:22] <BUGabundo> those are inferior
[23:22] <BUGabundo> :)
[23:22] <BUGabundo> ill try to buy one here
[23:22] <BUGabundo> waiting to see stock in store
[23:22] <BUGabundo> they came out today, on a few
[23:22] <fta> i hate asus, it's expensive and it's crap
[23:24] <fta> or take a chromebook :)
[23:24] <fta> http://chrome.blogspot.com/2011/06/chromebooks-now-available-for-sale.html
[23:24] <BUGabundo> 10 y ago they were a top branch
[23:26] <fta> maybe, but not anymore
[23:26] <BUGabundo> not for a while now
[23:35] <fta> or wait for the amazon tablets
[23:37] <BUGabundo> they won't send me another one
[23:38] <BUGabundo> since the RMA one was faulty too
[23:38] <BUGabundo> they want to investigate the lote
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