| snail | on ubuntu, what's the best way to find out (a) all the subdomains of a domain and (b) all of the names being mapped to an ip address? | 01:42 |
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| snail | ideally without a ping-storm... | 01:42 |
| mwhudson | host -t axfr $domain? | 01:43 |
| mwhudson | lots of servers refuse to give you that though | 01:43 |
| ojwb | in general, it's not easy to do either AFAIK | 01:44 |
| snail | nice. my dns for freenode has been flaky, I file a bug and get told "No changes have been made but the firewall has a problem with looking up irc.freenode.net at the moment so I've added all individual IP addresses to the rule allowing xchat" i don't want to know how they're messing with dns that's breaking dns pooling, but hardcoding them doesn't seem like the right approach... | 02:00 |
| ojwb | hmm, it's not a great plan | 02:07 |
| ojwb | someone needs to remember to remove the hack or else they'll be returning the wrong answers when freenode dns changes | 02:08 |
| ojwb | unless they firewall DNS traffic, you could just stick "nameserver 8.8.8.8" and "nameserver 8.8.4.4" in /etc/resolv.conf | 02:08 |
| ojwb | those are google's public dns servers | 02:08 |
| ojwb | downside is you're giving google data, which some may not like | 02:09 |
| mwhudson | doesn't that make CDNs rather less useful too? | 02:13 |
| mwhudson | oh, they're anycast | 02:14 |
| snail | ojwb: i would try that, but opting out of our organisational infrastructure just means that i discover the problems for the first time on one of my users computers... | 02:15 |
| mwhudson | although ping is 171ms so they can't be that close | 02:15 |
| ojwb | mwhudson: yeah, they're mostly handy to know for when you have problems getting the local DNS to work | 02:16 |
| ibeardslee | morning | 20:21 |
| ajmitch | morning | 20:51 |
| ajmitch | ibeardslee: you either get into work far too early, or are on irc from home | 20:51 |
| ibeardslee | ajmitch: at work | 20:51 |
| ibeardslee | travel time is easier earlier | 20:52 |
| ajmitch | very true | 20:52 |
| ibeardslee | less time sitting in a bus or the car | 20:52 |
| ajmitch | partly why I'm in at work before 8 most days | 20:52 |
| ajmitch | being in a crowded bus isn't fun | 20:52 |
| ibeardslee | even if it is harder to get up earlier | 20:52 |
| ibeardslee | it does mean that I can also get away earlier .. but I think I need more practise at that | 20:53 |
| * ajmitch is usually awake more than early enough | 20:53 | |
| ajmitch | I'm often away just after 5, which is nice | 20:53 |
| ibeardslee | I've deliberately arranged the personal trainer sessions at the gym for 5pm | 20:54 |
| * ajmitch can get stuff done early in the morning before those pesky clients start calling | 20:54 | |
| ibeardslee | so I HAVE to get away earlier | 20:54 |
| ibeardslee | but the days I don't have the sessions I get carried away | 20:54 |
| ajmitch | staying until 6 or 7? | 20:54 |
| ibeardslee | hardly ever 7, sometimes 6, often after 5 | 20:56 |
| ajmitch | darn, looks like air new zealand has been cancelling flights for the lower south island | 20:57 |
| ibeardslee | 7:30 -> 5pm = 9.5 hours - 1/2 for lunch .. I really should timesheet a bit more time | 20:57 |
| ajmitch | makes for a long day at times :) | 21:00 |
| snail | morning | 21:01 |
| mwhudson | morning | 21:32 |
| ibeardslee | so the big news of the day is MS withdrawing their XML document patent in NZ | 22:08 |
| ajmitch | interesting | 22:08 |
| ajmitch | was this a patent that had not yet been granted? | 22:09 |
| ibeardslee | they were filed and the NZOSS had opposed the first one and it seems were preparing to oppose the 2nd | 22:11 |
| ibeardslee | no had opposed, and were heading towards a hearing | 22:12 |
| ajmitch | I wonder what prompted the withdrawal | 22:12 |
| ibeardslee | nto sure of the exact details, but NZOSS and others (especially Matthew Holloway) must have had some clear objections | 22:13 |
| snail | ajmitch: as i understand it, a withdrawl is infinitely better than a negative ruling, since rulings join the body of case law | 22:20 |
| ajmitch | snail: right, I'm unfamiliar with how legal precedents should work in NZ :) | 22:21 |
| chilts | morning | 22:30 |
| Atamira | moring | 22:32 |
| Atamira | morning | 22:32 |
| thumper | morning | 23:36 |
| * thumper needs coffee | 23:36 | |
| * Atamira needs breakfast | 23:56 | |
| * ibeardslee needs a whisky and a lie down | 23:59 | |
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