[00:42] <philipballew> what would you guys recommend I put on a laptop with 256(i believe) on it?
[00:42] <philipballew> unless you think windows 2000 is good. haha
[00:43] <pleia2> could give lubuntu a try
[00:45] <philipballew> would that run with 256 you think? i was possibly gonna try that. if that doesn't work i might try puppy or bsd?
[00:45] <akk> 256 what? Mb RAM?
[00:46] <philipballew> yeah.
[00:46] <philipballew> rem
[00:46] <philipballew> *ram
[00:46] <akk> Ubuntu runs okay with 192Mb if you don't run a big desktop like gnome/kde
[00:46] <akk> and if you don't run two big apps at once, e.g. firefox and openoffice
[00:46] <philipballew> I am considering installing only cli
[00:47] <akk> It'll run fine with CLI only
[00:47] <philipballew> the laptops point will be to stream music from a music server i have in another room
[00:47] <akk> and fine with a lightweight window manager too (openbox, ratpoison, fvwm, etc.)
[00:47] <akk> oh, yeah, don't even need a wm then
[00:47] <philipballew> whats the best way then to install ubuntu cli
[00:48] <philipballew> i can install one if i want but configure it to not start up and i have to startx to bring it up
[00:48] <akk> The alternate install CD has an "install commandline only" option that works pretty well
[00:49] <akk> except in natty, it's messed up and won't give you a login prompt, so you have to press ctl-alt-F1 and then edit a couple files after install
[00:49] <philipballew> alright. that should be easy but if i install cli only would it come with apps i dont need?
[00:49] <philipballew> i could just install 10.04
[00:50] <akk> IIRC the cli install installs some server stuff, but there isn't a lot of it and it's easy to remove if you don't want it.
[00:50] <philipballew> apt-get can do it all for me
[00:51] <akk> 10.04 boots way slower on a slow machine than 11.04, but otherwise works okay (and has better power management, not that it matters for a media streaming machine)
[00:51] <philipballew> why does a older version run slower?
[00:51] <akk> Hmm, wait, strike that, I'm comparing against the wrong distro, 11.04 isn't all that fast to boot either (but doesn't matter much for you).
[00:51] <philipballew> i plan on never turning it off
[00:52] <akk> I currently like debian squeeze a lot for old/slow machines and laptops.
[00:52] <philipballew> i can do that as well
[00:55] <philipballew> if i install ubuntu or debian i wont have to figure out the differences between cli commands on different distros
[03:01] <iheartubuntu> seidos
[03:01] <iheartubuntu> the man, not the myth
[03:04] <seidos> hey, iheartubuntu, how are you?
[03:04] <iheartubuntu> not bad, how are you?
[03:04] <seidos> good and bad, same as always
[03:04] <seidos> i was in downtown L.A. today, @ the new "l.a. live"
[03:05] <iheartubuntu> ohh how was it? i still have not been there
[03:05] <seidos> i visited FIDM
[03:05] <seidos> the best thing there is the theater and a starbucks
[03:05] <iheartubuntu> i was at an ice skating event during the winter, but didnt go across the street
[03:05] <iheartubuntu> haha
[03:05] <seidos> unless you're into pricey restaurants
[03:05] <iheartubuntu> isnt there a bowling alley there too?
[03:05] <seidos> ah, maybe, at the ESPN place
[03:05] <seidos> i should've checked that out
[03:05] <iheartubuntu> i just went bowling for the first time in a while
[03:05] <iheartubuntu> it was a rip off
[03:06] <seidos> i ended up going to this park after lunch which was cool
[03:06] <iheartubuntu> i spent like $160 to go bowling ???!!!
[03:06] <seidos> there's a bowling alley in my old town that has $2 tuesdays
[03:06] <seidos> i used to have my own shoes...i gave them away though.  i prefer miniature golf
[03:06] <iheartubuntu> 4 people, bowling two games plus shoes, plus balls, plus some beers and nachos. rip off
[03:07] <iheartubuntu> this place was a trashy bowling alley that was totally revamped... looked nice inside, but for a friday night it was empty
[03:07] <seidos> 4 nerf dart tag guns: $80.  dart tag at the park:  priceless
[03:07] <iheartubuntu> $3 bottle of ketchup
[03:07] <iheartubuntu> :)
[03:08] <iheartubuntu> (for when you get hit by a nerf)
[03:08] <seidos> dude, stallman is good at spanish:  http://stallman.org/video/spain-protests-2011.ogv
[03:09] <iheartubuntu> ohh. i wanted ask u
[03:10] <iheartubuntu> i have access to a classroom... any size, to host some sort of ubuntu event at CSULA
[03:10] <iheartubuntu> would u want to work together on this?
[03:10] <seidos> maybe you could show the movie "Amistad"
[03:11] <seidos> sure, i'd just have to figure out how to get to CSULA
[03:11] <seidos> what did you have in mind?
[03:12] <seidos> did you hear about the homeowner that foreclosed on a bank in florida?
[03:12] <seidos> odd
[03:12] <iheartubuntu> ohh yah
[03:12] <iheartubuntu> great :)
[03:14] <seidos> btw, i <3 CSULA, i just don't have easy access right now since i don't have a car.
[03:14] <seidos> if it was a job interview it wouldn't be an issue, i could borrow the woman's
[03:14] <iheartubuntu> ok
[03:15] <iheartubuntu> dont know when i'll do it yet
[03:15] <seidos> i'll see what the bus route is in the meantime
[03:15] <iheartubuntu> maybe like a 20 minute intro, with some laptops, some CDs, some USBs, etc
[03:15] <seidos> my laptop isn't portable anymore
[03:15] <iheartubuntu> so in all like a 2 or 3 hour event
[03:15] <seidos> i have officially "grounded it", FAA, not in trouble
[03:15] <iheartubuntu> if it goes well, maybe try it monthly? or every other month? i dont know
[03:16] <seidos> yeah, hey, go for it
[03:16] <iheartubuntu> is there a way to pin tabs in chrome and have it saved for when i get home? or are pinned tabs exclusive to the computer im using
[03:16] <seidos> good luck, i mean, if you're enjoying yourself, why not?
[03:17] <seidos> i think it's exclusive
[03:17] <seidos> i'm not using chrome right now though
[03:17] <seidos> but, i mean, you'd have to save the configuration to "the cloud"
[03:18] <iheartubuntu> ok, i'll ask bob marley
[03:18] <seidos> let me know what he says
[03:18] <seidos> it'd be nice to hear from him in these troubling times
[03:19] <iheartubuntu> i will. right after i talk to the elves too.
[03:19] <iheartubuntu> Bob Marleys favorite version of Ubuntu is: 11.04 NATTY
[03:19] <seidos> don't talk to the elves, you could get thrown in jail
[03:19] <seidos> why's that?
[03:20] <iheartubuntu> natty?
[03:20] <seidos> ha
[03:20] <seidos> nappy
[03:20] <iheartubuntu> i was telling pirate jokes at a party on saturday night
[03:20] <seidos> it's a 1 hour bus ride to csula
[03:20] <iheartubuntu> it was going great until... about 2 minutes into it. then they got old real quick
[03:20] <seidos> bummer
[03:21] <iheartubuntu> you can do only so many AAAARRrrrrrr jokes
[03:21] <iheartubuntu> going to a Baaaarrrrrrr, driving a Caaaarrrrrr
[03:21] <iheartubuntu> etc
[03:21] <seidos> you should change it up, make it skull and bones jokes.  322
[03:21] <iheartubuntu> luckily no one had tomatoes
[03:21]  * seidos throws a tomato at iheartubuntu 
[03:22]  * iheartubuntu ouch! but well deserved
[03:22] <seidos> "down with the union!"
[03:22] <seidos> i just saw "gangs of New York"
[03:22] <seidos> there was tomato throwing (and lettuce) in it
[03:23] <iheartubuntu> i havent seen that in a while
[03:23] <iheartubuntu> midnight in paris was good
[03:24] <seidos> that butcher dude was creepy, creepier than "the butcher" demon in diablo
[03:24] <seidos> hey iheartubuntu have you considered having an ubuntu event at your house?
[03:24] <iheartubuntu> my sister still plays that... on ubuntu now
[03:24] <seidos> cool.  i played warcraft 2, like one scenario.
[03:24] <iheartubuntu> i have not. i guess i could. the living room is covered in dust right now
[03:24] <seidos> it was slightly laggy
[03:25] <seidos> i should see about getting duke nukem 3d
[03:25] <seidos> i wonder how it would run on my notebook
[03:25] <iheartubuntu> sanding the walls where i just put in windows
[03:25] <seidos> ah
[03:25] <iheartubuntu> go for the original duke nukem
[03:25] <seidos> how's that going?
[03:25] <iheartubuntu> its going. i just dont have time
[03:25] <iheartubuntu> im at work still
[03:25] <seidos> i was looking for a multiplayer game
[03:25] <seidos> single player games bore me
[03:26] <iheartubuntu> that reminds me. i need to present my findings for the CA team game night at the next meeting
[03:26] <seidos> k^2
[03:27] <iheartubuntu> need to reboot. brb.
[03:38] <seidos> RMS' rss feeds are dreary today, there was a silver lining.  apparently california's lower house voted to ban trade in shark fins
[03:38] <seidos> but Obama bombing libya for oil and this WTO stuff is a bummer
[03:39] <iheartubuntu> yah
[03:39] <iheartubuntu> i was reading an article about the mexican drug gangs in mexico.. that is one messed up situation too
[03:42] <seidos> yeah.  "el mas loco".
[03:42] <seidos> i read about him.
[03:42] <iheartubuntu> im surprised ubuntu one does not have a mobile site
[03:42] <iheartubuntu> i just want to access my notes and contacts, not stream music
[03:42] <seidos> i get by without using ubuntu one...
[03:43] <seidos> a usb drive should do the trick
[03:43] <seidos> i guess they're more expensive than ubuntu one
[03:44] <seidos> eh, i guess i'm just not a "bleeding edge type"
[03:44] <iheartubuntu> what font type are you
[03:46] <seidos> fixedsys :P
[03:46] <seidos> that's the only one i can think of, really
[03:47] <seidos> i'm rewatching star trek voyager, maybe the star trek font
[03:48] <iheartubuntu> did u like the star trek movie last year?
[03:48] <iheartubuntu> i thought it was pretty good
[03:49] <seidos> yeah, it was all right
[03:49] <seidos> i've been skydiving, so the skydiving scene was interesting
[03:52] <iheartubuntu> thats one thing i wont do
[03:52] <seidos> yeah, i won't do it again
[03:52] <seidos> i don't see the point
[03:52] <seidos> if i could do anything again, it would probably be surfing
[04:20] <nhaines> Did anyone hear about the two guys who robbed a calandar factory?  They each got 6 months.
[04:20] <pleia2> sigh :)
[04:21] <akk> *brick*
[04:22] <nhaines> haha
[04:22] <iheartubuntu> I stood there wondering, “Why is that Frisbee getting bigger?” Then it hit me.
[04:23] <seidos> ha
[04:23] <seidos> i like frisbee
[04:23] <seidos> they had frisbee golf at golden gate park
[04:23] <seidos> when i would walk through the park i'd have to watch out when walking
[04:23] <seidos> there was one time that i realized i was standing in line of fire
[04:24] <iheartubuntu> then it hit you?
[04:25] <seidos> actually, never hit me
[04:26] <seidos> i was also meditating under a tree once, and a frisbee landed near by
[04:26] <seidos> i remember it was raining
[04:26] <seidos> well, i guess it hit me figuratively
[04:27] <nigelb> akk: lol, poor jokes get hit with a brick? :P
[04:27] <akk> nigelb: yep :)
[04:27] <iheartubuntu> id better not tell any pirate jokes then
[04:28] <nigelb> heh
[04:28]  * akk has been bricked more than once on another channel where it's a common reaction to such jokes
[04:28] <nigelb> who here's a fan of broadway and plays and muscials?
[04:29] <akk> A while back, but been out of it for quite a while.
[04:29] <iheartubuntu> A guy walks into a shrink wearing only bicycle shorts. the shrink says "well, i can clearly see youre nuts"
[04:30] <pleia2> musicals are good
[04:30] <iheartubuntu> i saw fiddler on the roof in SF last year
[04:30] <iheartubuntu> was good!
[04:30] <pleia2> nice
[04:30] <nigelb> I've been wwatching this one again and again, its from the opening of the Toney awards
[04:30] <nigelb> *Tony
[04:30] <nigelb> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6S5caRGpK4
[04:30] <iheartubuntu> just saw a play here in pasadena a couple weeks ago
[04:30] <nhaines> The last musical I saw was Lion King, which was great.
[04:31] <pleia2> I want to see that, it's playing at mandalay bay in vegas
[04:31] <iheartubuntu> i went to a seafood disco last week... and pulled a muscle.
[04:32] <pleia2> nigelb: speaking of neil patrick harris, seen dr horrible's sing along blog?
[04:32] <nigelb> pleia2: No, link me :)
[04:32] <nigelb> pleia2: Also, Lion King musical sounds awesome
[04:32]  * nigelb <3 Disney Movies of the old
[04:32] <pleia2> nigelb: http://doctorhorrible.net/watch/
[04:33] <nhaines> pleia2: Lion King is worth it.  Also nigelb go watch Dr. Horrible.  It's 3 parts in 15 minutes each and it's great.
[04:33] <iheartubuntu> i went to the butchers the other day and bet him 50 bucks that he couldnt reach the meat on the top shelf. he said "no the steaks are too high"
[04:33] <akk> haha, this is great (only halfway through)
[04:34] <nigelb> oh bah, Hulu.
[04:36] <pleia2> yeah, I have it on dvd
[04:37] <seidos> iheartubuntu: mussels
[04:38] <seidos> i have big mussels, my name is russel
[04:38] <iheartubuntu> you have to tell it out loud i think.
[04:38] <seidos> i saw Dr. Horrible at the Egyptian Theater
[04:38] <seidos> along with some D&D thing, forget what it was called
[04:38] <iheartubuntu> in hollywood?
[04:38] <seidos> yeah, Hollywood
[04:39] <akk> Wow, that brings back memories
[04:39] <iheartubuntu> nice place
[04:39] <akk> used to love the Egyptian
[04:39] <seidos> by the same director, it was about these people that play MMORPGs
[04:39] <seidos> i was never in love with the Egyptian
[04:39] <seidos> gf won tickets
[04:40] <akk> When I was a kid I liked it because of the Anubis statues in the lobby. :)
[04:40] <seidos> i mean i didn't *hate it*
[04:40] <seidos> oh nevermind
[04:40]  * seidos throws his hands in the air
[04:41] <iheartubuntu> i saw a 3D film festival there a few years back
[04:42] <nhaines> pleia2: Dr Horrible's DVD commentary track was great.  :)
[04:42] <nhaines> Great Tony opening.  NPH is awesome but that kind of singing is extremely hard to do without a monitor.
[04:42] <nhaines> (Which makes him more awesome.)
[04:42] <iheartubuntu> wow, 2006 it was
[04:43] <seidos> what i meant to say were "the anubis statues were neat"
[04:43] <seidos> *was
[04:43]  * seidos laughs
[04:44] <iheartubuntu> list of the movies... http://www.3dfilmpf.org/3d-film-expo/trailers.html
[04:46] <seidos> i'm going to see 8 movies at the LA film festival this year
[04:46] <seidos> i'm looking forward to winnie the pooh :x
[04:47] <iheartubuntu> there is a french film festival coming soon to LA not sure when tho but soon.
[04:48] <seidos> oh great, Felicia Day's character's name in "Dr. Horrible..." is "penny"
[04:48] <seidos> her name might as well be "fiat currency" in this day and age
[04:48] <seidos> i decided to list out the 7 seals of revelation, apparently the 6th one is the most important
[04:49] <pleia2> one of my friends called MJ captain hammer, I laughed for like 2 days
[04:49] <pleia2> then asked him not to kill me
[04:49] <pleia2> ;)
[04:49] <seidos> pleia2: MJ is your man-friend?
[04:49] <pleia2> yes
[04:49] <seidos> ah, right, "The Guild"
[04:49] <seidos> that's what it was
[04:50] <seidos> maybe i would have remembered it if i had ever been in a "guild", or ever had played "guild wars"
[04:50] <seidos> Captain Hammer must be a Mason
[04:50] <nigelb> pleia2: haha, you should just call him "captain" hereforth :P
[04:51] <pleia2> MJ hasn't actually seen it
[04:51] <pleia2> I ruined my movie cred at home by making him watch too many horrible old movies I think :)
[04:52] <iheartubuntu> haha
[04:52] <pleia2> "we should watch 'dr horrible'" "eh.. maybe some other time..."
[04:52] <seidos> pleia2: like what?
[04:52] <pleia2> seidos: the brain that wouldn't die!
[04:52] <pleia2> the the like
[04:52] <seidos> pleia2: sounds horrible
[04:52] <pleia2> s/the the/and the
[04:52] <akk> pleia2: d is why I haven't seen many musicals lately.
[04:52] <akk> Men!
[04:52] <akk> :)
[04:52] <pleia2> haha
[04:52] <pleia2> +1
[04:52] <iheartubuntu> my sis has horrible movie tastes. i know better now if she recommends a movie not to see it. if she hates a movie i know i'll like it
[04:52] <seidos> i tried watching Rent when it came on t.v...
[04:52] <seidos> i failed
[04:53] <seidos> i liked that Tuscany movie...man, my memory is terrible
[04:53] <akk> He did sit through Evita a few years ago, but when I rented Sweeney Todd I had to watch during the day while he was doing other things.
[04:53] <pleia2> to be fair, he did go with me to see Tangled, and disney cartoons are all musicals :)
[04:53] <iheartubuntu> tuscany?
[04:53] <iheartubuntu> my wife likes under the tuscan sun
[04:54] <pleia2> I loved sweeney todd
[04:54] <seidos> iheartubuntu: it's like the best fem movie i've seen that comes to mind
[04:54] <pleia2> but johnny depp is dreamy :) even when crazy
[04:54] <iheartubuntu> what is
[04:54] <akk> I was so excited when there was finally a DVD of Sweeney -- I saw it as a teenager and loved it.
[04:54] <iheartubuntu> actually i like it too :)
[04:54] <seidos> pleia2: i saw the old sweeney todd in high school.  horrific
[04:54] <iheartubuntu> once you go tuscan you never go back
[04:54] <pleia2> seidos: old movie?
[04:54] <seidos> iheartubuntu: under the tuscan sun, thanks
[04:55] <akk> and yeah, johnny depp++
[04:55] <seidos> pleia2: yeah, along with metamorphosis
[04:55] <nigelb> iheartubuntu: Under the tuscan sun++
[04:55] <seidos> tim roth is in that one
[04:55] <iheartubuntu> i liked depps new movie in venice
[04:55] <seidos> pleia2: i think this is it:  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084747/
[04:56] <pleia2> iheartubuntu: but so predictable! (I saw it on a plane recently)
[04:56] <seidos> i think "under the tuscan sun" inspired me to quit my job, move to australia, and write a novel
[04:56] <akk> I think Benny & Joon is still my favorite Depp movie.
[04:56] <iheartubuntu> a friend of mine just opened a new cafe in south pas. great food. he owns a couple of villas in italy about 50 min north of rome
[04:56] <seidos> it contributed like 15% to the decision
[04:56] <pleia2> Chocolat is a good Depp movie
[04:56] <seidos> ah, yeah Chocolat was good
[04:56] <akk> yes, it was
[04:57] <iheartubuntu> are u still working on the novel?
[04:57] <akk> Don Juan de Marco was good too (that was him, wasn't it?)
[04:57] <akk> I should rent that again
[04:57] <seidos> iheartubuntu: nah, finished it.  working on 2nd
[04:57] <seidos> haven't got it published yet
[04:57] <iheartubuntu> publish!!!!
[04:57] <seidos> probably need to get rejected 200 more times
[04:57] <pleia2> akk: ooh, I haven't seen it
[04:57] <iheartubuntu> use lulu.com or something
[04:57] <seidos> it was published, but http://thewebsiteisdown.com
[04:57] <iheartubuntu> self publish
[04:57] <seidos> i used feedbooks, i didn't like it
[04:58] <seidos> no $, or B for that matter
[04:58] <pleia2> nice, Don Juan DeMarco is on instant netflix
[04:58] <seidos> i could probably print out a copy
[04:58] <pleia2> so is benny and joon!
[04:58] <seidos> i'll repost it as soon as i get my old server over here
[04:58] <iheartubuntu> u need to make it available everywhere seidos. not just on one site
[04:58] <seidos> i'm not sure that i saw Benny and Joon
[04:59] <seidos> iheartubuntu: that's actually a brilliant idea
[04:59] <iheartubuntu> example for music is cdbaby. u upload your music there and they put it for sale on like 15 sites
[04:59] <seidos> i'll do that as soon as i get the data.  should be done on the 11th
[04:59] <seidos> i'm working on a 2nd novel, i have 2 chapters to go i think
[04:59] <akk> pleia2: Both of those were great roles for him (though "great role for johnny depp" is a pretty broad category)
[04:59] <pleia2> cool
[04:59] <seidos> a good old movie is "the tin drum"
[04:59] <pleia2> ok, dinnertime, later all
[04:59] <seidos> just as weird as the novel
[05:00] <seidos> salut pleia2
[05:00] <iheartubuntu> bye bye
[05:00] <iheartubuntu> ciao!
[05:00] <seidos> i watched the star wars clone wars cartoon in italian
[05:00] <iheartubuntu> are there screen adaptations of any of hemingways books?
[05:01] <seidos> farewell to arms was on the other day
[05:01] <seidos> not sure if you could sit through it, though
[05:01] <seidos> i couldn't
[05:01] <seidos> i couldn't suspend my disbelief during the xplosions
[05:02] <nhaines> I read an excerpt from Die Blechtrommel in class.  Wasn't sure I cared to keep going in German.  :)
[05:05] <seidos> i liked the movie better than the book
[05:05] <seidos> we read it in english class
[05:05] <seidos> i watched "the letter m" in german
[05:05] <seidos> it kind of was self-explanatory though
[05:05] <seidos> like spring,summer,fall,winter,and spring
[05:11] <akk> does that star Big Bird?
[05:12] <seidos> haha no, i wish it had
[05:12] <seidos> snuffalupagus even better
[05:13] <seidos> i think i have the title wrong, one moment
[05:13] <seidos> ah, yeah, it was just "M"
[05:13] <seidos> em, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0022100/
[06:58] <nhaines> this: http://xkcd.com/912/
[06:59] <sn9> what about it?
[07:00] <nhaines> sn9: I'm glad I don't run into that more these days.
[07:00] <sn9> i kind do
[10:33] <iheartubuntu> ok
[16:17] <ryaxnb> so duke nukem forever scored 3.0
[16:17] <ryaxnb> :(
[19:26] <nhaines> You can watch the in progress lunar eclipse live here http://eclipse.slooh.com/ or here http://www.youtube.com/google
[19:28] <pleia2> cyprus has been doing a better job at keeping it centered (rather than default of dubai)
[19:28] <nhaines> I found that Dubai was a bit hazy, although they both appear better now.
[21:12] <nhaines> pleia2: Cyprus isn't doing so well at keeping the moon centered now.  :(
[21:12] <pleia2> yeah, where is the moon!
[21:18] <nhaines> Oh, it's back.  :)
[21:46] <nhaines> Here comes the moon again!
[21:49] <akk> shining on my head like a melody
[22:45] <yantrashilpi> hello all or whoever's in the room. does anybody here use ibus for multi-language input?
[22:46] <sn9> it tends to be crashy in maverick
[22:47] <sn9> i try not to use it
[22:48] <nhaines> I'm lucky (lazy?) enough that all my written language is done in Latin script.
[22:50] <yantrashilpi> hmm, i've used it in maverick flawlessly, in fact pretty much I think from 9.10 I've been using it successfully
[22:50] <yantrashilpi> except now I can't get it to work on natty
[22:50] <yantrashilpi> i don't see any input methods and I can't seem to select different input methods on the menu bar
[22:50] <yantrashilpi> seems like a unity related bug.
[22:51] <yantrashilpi> or just maybe the language box is not installing all the necessary files.
[22:51] <yantrashilpi> do any of you know where the unity/ibus people hang out?
[22:51] <yantrashilpi> which room?