| snap-l | Hello there | 00:20 |
|---|---|---|
| rick_h_ | party | 00:24 |
| brousch | found a work around for the Aptana Pydev issue. it basically disables the global menu thing before starting it up | 00:25 |
| brousch | are you guys representin' yet? | 00:25 |
| rick_h_ | yea, jcastro and snap-l and greg-g went | 00:26 |
| rick_h_ | rocking the house :) | 00:26 |
| greg-g | w00t! | 00:26 |
| greg-g | Gib is recording it | 00:26 |
| brousch | he will upload it somewhere afterwards? | 00:27 |
| brousch | make sure you send the link out over the ubuntu-michigan mailing list ;) | 00:28 |
| greg-g | I assume he is? | 00:28 |
| greg-g | oh, definitely, and a blog post, and a tweet/dent, and a... uhhh, an IM? | 00:29 |
| brousch | post it to the ubuntu michigan facebook page | 00:29 |
| brousch | i think snap-l | 00:29 |
| brousch | is the curator | 00:29 |
| greg-g | oh, I forgot about that | 00:30 |
| brousch | oooh, we could put it on diaspora! | 00:30 |
| greg-g | https://joindiaspora.com/status_messages/289156 | 00:33 |
| rick_h_ | You need to sign in or sign up before continuing. | 00:33 |
| rick_h_ | :( | 00:33 |
| rick_h_ | open I see :P | 00:33 |
| greg-g | hehe, "privacy" | 00:33 |
| snap-l | Gee, greg-g uses Diaspora. | 00:33 |
| greg-g | rarely/barely | 00:34 |
| snap-l | I just logged back in there. | 00:34 |
| === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse | ||
| brousch | Hm, I'm starting to get into natty | 00:52 |
| brousch | my problems on my big laptop are solved or worked around. the keyboard shortcuts are starting to grown on me | 00:53 |
| brousch | now if only they would release nvidia-96 drivers i could be a happy boy | 00:53 |
| snap-l | brousch: Yeah, same here | 00:54 |
| snap-l | still a few rough edges, but I'm liking it overall | 00:54 |
| brousch | working well for my son on the eeepc too | 00:54 |
| rick_h_ | coolio | 01:01 |
| jjesse | hrmm am i still here? | 01:01 |
| brousch | jjesse: sort of | 01:03 |
| jrwren | rick_h_: do you run your html through a validator. | 01:03 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: nope | 01:04 |
| rick_h_ | I'm bad | 01:04 |
| * rick_h_ loads up http://rick.bmark.us in the validator | 01:05 | |
| rick_h_ | nice, caught me in some wrong doing | 01:08 |
| brousch | hm, anyone know how i add a bash script to the launcher? | 01:18 |
| slestak_netbook | rick_h_: did you see my late post w what the problem was? | 01:52 |
| brousch | slestak_netbook: they're busy with a big ubuntu-themed linux meeting in detroit | 02:09 |
| slestak_netbook | ahh | 02:09 |
| slestak_netbook | how are you man | 02:09 |
| brousch | excellent | 02:09 |
| brousch | i'm using natty tonight | 02:09 |
| slestak_netbook | im not going to make it tomorrow. i am so broke till payday | 02:09 |
| jrwren | rick_h_ is my barometer for sane web programming | 02:09 |
| slestak_netbook | jrwren: im a web noob, so if its possible to do it wrong, i will stumble into it | 02:10 |
| brousch | slestak_netbook: i can buy you a $2 coffee | 02:11 |
| slestak_netbook | i'll try. i kinda committed to take kids to kdl too so i maybe should make next one | 02:12 |
| slestak_netbook | books due | 02:12 |
| brousch | up to you | 02:12 |
| brousch | is kdl open that late? | 02:12 |
| slestak_netbook | hey, with virtualenvwrapper, isnt there a keybinding to cd into your project dir? | 02:12 |
| slestak_netbook | good point | 02:13 |
| slestak_netbook | if there is not, there should be | 02:13 |
| brousch | i haven't used the wrapper | 02:14 |
| slestak_netbook | the wrapper is nice, you can just say workon projname | 02:14 |
| slestak_netbook | and it activates projname | 02:14 |
| slestak_netbook | ahh, here it is echo 'cd $VIRTUAL_ENV' >> $WORKON_HOME/postactivate | 02:16 |
| slestak_netbook | dhellman rocks | 02:17 |
| brousch | ug, found it. i had to create my own .desktop file in ~/.local/share/applications , drag it to the launcher, and then copy the icon to /usr/share/pixmaps/ | 02:43 |
| slestak_netbook | what were you trying to do? | 03:04 |
| brousch | add an icon to launch a script from unity's launcher | 03:14 |
| brousch | i need to start aptana from a bash script to work around menu issues, so i needed to add the script to the launcher instead of the regular aptana program | 03:15 |
| brousch | bedtime | 03:16 |
| greg-g | g'morn | 12:19 |
| rick_h_ | morning | 12:47 |
| brousch | yepyep | 12:47 |
| brousch | have a mug hangover? | 12:47 |
| rick_h_ | yea, sleepy | 13:01 |
| rick_h_ | I'm old, staying up until midnight is bad for me | 13:01 |
| greg-g | ditto | 13:01 |
| rick_h_ | and CHC tonight is a back to back later | 13:02 |
| greg-g | going to be a tough thursday mornig for rick_h_ | 13:02 |
| rick_h_ | yea, productivity will be dropping lol | 13:03 |
| brousch | midnight? that's a good meeting! | 13:05 |
| rick_h_ | well, that's post meeting dinner + drive home + getting ready for bed | 13:06 |
| brousch | i love the meetings where you stop talking for a minue, look at the clock, and it's 10pm | 13:07 |
| Wolfger | heh | 13:21 |
| Wolfger | now I'm glad I didn't go out. That's way past my bedtime | 13:21 |
| Wolfger | around 8:30 I was really wishing I'd gone. :-p | 13:21 |
| brousch | are you saying it wasn't worth 1 late night? | 13:23 |
| rick_h_ | naw it was good stuff, many jokes to be made, many questions/opinions to gather | 13:25 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g talking about his tour de greg was good stuff :) | 13:25 |
| greg-g | :) | 13:27 |
| greg-g | dinner was good convo, definitely. And the presentations I think went well | 13:27 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I think we filled and showed some good stuff | 13:28 |
| rick_h_ | sounded like snap-l's unity stuff went over well | 13:28 |
| rick_h_ | definitly think it might be good for the locos to help 'demo'/hands on the unity changes | 13:28 |
| greg-g | not a bad idea | 13:29 |
| rick_h_ | seems some people run away from that first hit of "what is this..." | 13:29 |
| rick_h_ | but once they get over it start to warm up...see snap-l himself | 13:29 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: dude, you should screencast that stuff | 13:29 |
| greg-g | ! | 13:29 |
| rick_h_ | "Coping with Unity, session 1: the dock" | 13:29 |
| greg-g | yes | 13:29 |
| rick_h_ | "session 2: wtf do you mean I have 'lenses'"? | 13:30 |
| Wolfger | You mean, not everybody in the world hates Unity? I'm shocked. Shocked, I tell you. That's not what the blogs all say.... | 13:30 |
| Wolfger | oh, I need session 2 | 13:30 |
| rick_h_ | wake up snap-l! we're creating work for you | 13:31 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 13:31 |
| Wolfger | the nerve of some people... sleeping through their work assignments. | 13:37 |
| jcastro | snap-l: rick_h_ July 16 | 13:37 |
| Wolfger | Hey there, Mr Ubuntu-US-FL.... ;-) | 13:38 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: ah, good to konw | 13:39 |
| greg-g | ah, I was a week off | 13:40 |
| Wolfger | ooh, it's a woot-off today | 13:41 |
| * greg-g gets the woot off song in his head | 13:41 | |
| brousch | nearly all of my issues with unity have been worked around, fixed, or i've learned the unity-way of doing it | 13:41 |
| snap-l | Hey, it's a compiz update. | 13:54 |
| brousch | snap-l: have you seen the jono version of the free software song? | 13:56 |
| brousch | http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/06/15/metal-free-software-song-2-this-time-its-personal/ | 13:57 |
| snap-l | Just downloaded it | 14:01 |
| snap-l | Haven't heard it yet. | 14:01 |
| brousch | not bad | 14:01 |
| brousch | good music, not my favorite vocals | 14:02 |
| brousch | sounds too much like modern hetfield vocals | 14:02 |
| snap-l | OK, I think I managed to goof up my system. | 14:05 |
| snap-l | (logged in remotely via ssh) | 14:05 |
| brousch | your nappy box? | 14:06 |
| snap-l | so, will be rebooting. :) | 14:06 |
| snap-l | Yeah, I stopped and restarted gdm | 14:06 |
| snap-l | and now I can't log in. ;) | 14:06 |
| snap-l | so, brb. | 14:06 |
| snap-l | And we're back. | 14:12 |
| jjesse | no we aren't | 14:42 |
| rick_h_ | man I had advertising | 14:52 |
| rick_h_ | that link jcastro is just evil | 14:52 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: Where's this link? | 14:56 |
| * snap-l really needs to stop subscribing to blabbermouths on twitter / identi.ca | 14:57 | |
| rick_h_ | http://goo.gl/egcLc | 14:57 |
| snap-l | Ah, I see it now | 14:57 |
| snap-l | Dude, this is what adblock was invented for | 14:57 |
| rick_h_ | yea, since going to chrome I've not gone back to adblock | 15:02 |
| rick_h_ | I kind of wanted to try to be a good netizen | 15:02 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: so FF question, how are you guys handling the uptick in the FF release schedule? | 15:03 |
| rick_h_ | just going to skip releases of FF and going with whatever is out at time of release? | 15:04 |
| rick_h_ | bubble is here! http://techcrunch.com/2011/06/15/pandora-opens-at-20-per-share-with-a-market-cap-of-3-2-billion/ | 15:06 |
| rick_h_ | key words "yet to make a profit" | 15:06 |
| snap-l | shit shit shit shit shit: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTU3MA | 15:06 |
| jcastro | rick_h_: everyone will go FF5 at the same time | 15:06 |
| snap-l | Now we'll never get cool Twitter clients. | 15:06 |
| jcastro | snap-l: heh, same thing I thought | 15:06 |
| jcastro | rick_h_: and from then on we'll just follow the same FF release for everything, back to the LTSes too | 15:07 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: ah cool that's what I was wondering | 15:08 |
| rick_h_ | if it'd get updated mid-cycle if FF releases | 15:08 |
| jcastro | right | 15:08 |
| jcastro | we actually started doing that with FF4 | 15:08 |
| rick_h_ | seems that getting updates to old versions will start to get hard as they get 2-3-4 vversions ahead | 15:08 |
| jcastro | but we upgrade to 4 only when MoCo kills 3.6 | 15:08 |
| jcastro | and they haven't quite yet. | 15:08 |
| rick_h_ | cool, that's what I like to hear (as a web dev) | 15:08 |
| jcastro | but starting with 5 they're going to go more brutal like chrome | 15:09 |
| snap-l | jcastro: I don't think they've quite figured out how to kill 3.6 yet. | 15:09 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I know 5 is coming in july | 15:09 |
| jcastro | so like, we'll be as aggressive as they are. | 15:09 |
| rick_h_ | awesome! | 15:09 |
| rick_h_ | good to hear | 15:09 |
| jcastro | snap-l: well they still support it | 15:09 |
| snap-l | Right, that's what I'm saying | 15:09 |
| jcastro | what they're changing is saying "nope, no more version -1 support" | 15:09 |
| snap-l | since the 3.x series was pretty successful | 15:09 |
| rick_h_ | I don't know how | 15:09 |
| rick_h_ | even FF4 is painful here | 15:10 |
| rick_h_ | it must be the linux versions | 15:10 |
| rick_h_ | because people seem to love it and say it's all super fast | 15:10 |
| rick_h_ | but I've got a pretty bare FF4 that I just hate tring to use | 15:10 |
| rick_h_ | hangs, launches in forever, ugh | 15:10 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: http://net.tutsplus.com/articles/web-roundups/50-killer-chromebook-apps/ | 15:11 |
| rick_h_ | more web living | 15:11 |
| rick_h_ | https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/liglcienpnkhdajdfmnpbgmpjglonipe# seems nice | 15:12 |
| rick_h_ | https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/edebbhkhcaafmolanelponjjanocpacd# is handy as well | 15:12 |
| jcastro | ooh, looking | 15:13 |
| jcastro | I find FF4 to be much better, but the launch time is still not as quick as chrome | 15:13 |
| jcastro | oddly enough it's on android where FF is quite nice | 15:13 |
| snap-l | Oh, I like the timer. | 15:18 |
| rick_h_ | yea, that's handy. Was doing some timer stuff when testing the node.js url processor to check urls/s | 15:19 |
| rick_h_ | and I like that it shows in the tab up top as well | 15:19 |
| jrwren | jcastro: agreed. | 15:19 |
| jrwren | I still prefer FF for some strange reason. | 15:19 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I'm still primarily a FF user | 15:35 |
| snap-l | jcastro: I finally joined your little party. | 15:35 |
| jcastro | yeah ROCK out | 15:35 |
| snap-l | Too mellow. :) | 15:44 |
| brousch | i use both now that google messed with their multiple account switching crap | 15:56 |
| snap-l | ? | 15:57 |
| brousch | i have google apps for work and gmail for home. it used to be easy to have each account open in a seperate chrome window | 15:57 |
| brousch | recently google changed it so they both login the same way so only one works at a time | 15:58 |
| brousch | so i open work in FF and gmail in chrome | 15:58 |
| brousch | they have a half-assed switching thing, but that is stupid | 15:58 |
| snap-l | jcastro: I'm not sure if I'm sharing tracks, or poisoning the well. ;) | 15:58 |
| brousch | and sometimes i can get them both in chrome, but only about half the time | 15:58 |
| greg-g | what is that pdf hosting site that uses flash? | 16:23 |
| snap-l | scribd | 16:23 |
| greg-g | thats it! | 16:23 |
| greg-g | thanks | 16:23 |
| snap-l | I have it tattooed in my brain with rage. | 16:23 |
| snap-l | You're not going to put your slides on there? | 16:23 |
| greg-g | yeah, I have the rage part, but I think my mind block out the name | 16:24 |
| greg-g | hellz no | 16:24 |
| snap-l | Thank you. | 16:24 |
| Wolfger | why all the hate? | 16:59 |
| snap-l | Wolfger: Because it sucks | 17:00 |
| brousch | scribd eats baby monkeys and poops radioactive waste | 17:00 |
| snap-l | It sucks with the force of a thousand black holes | 17:00 |
| snap-l | It sucks so hard, even the suck can't escape the gravitational pull of suck | 17:00 |
| snap-l | Making people have to upload a file so they can download a file is suck | 17:01 |
| snap-l | Locking down the reader so you have to use flash is sucl | 17:01 |
| greg-g | we (Open.Michigan) were considering uploading some docs to scribd, I was vehemently against it. "We have servers, we can host effing pdfs, why do we need scribd?" | 17:07 |
| brousch | use archive.org | 17:08 |
| rick_h_ | <3 open source...forking github and making changes so damn useful | 17:10 |
| snap-l | greg-g: Exactly | 17:11 |
| Blazeix | I'm a fan of using the embeddable google docs viewer for PDFs | 17:14 |
| rick_h_ | +1 | 17:14 |
| rick_h_ | I actually really like the chrome pdf viewing | 17:14 |
| Blazeix | you still host the PDF on your site, but it provides a nice inline render | 17:14 |
| rick_h_ | I don't think I ahve a pdf reader installed currently tbh | 17:14 |
| greg-g | that thing that jrwren and I retweeted looks nice, could be the base of a great web-based pdf reader | 17:15 |
| Blazeix | oh, sweet | 17:16 |
| greg-g | yeah, I get excited about that kind of stuff, I'm weird | 17:16 |
| Blazeix | the docs viewer renders the pdf as images, but still manages to hide selectable text in there somehow | 17:18 |
| Blazeix | so it kind of cheats, but it works well | 17:18 |
| greg-g | yeah, that is killer. OCR behind an image | 17:19 |
| snap-l | I think I've found my new calling... acting as radio station for jcastro | 17:19 |
| snap-l | ;) | 17:19 |
| jcastro | yeah! | 17:23 |
| * snap-l is filling up the outloud.fm room with CC music. ;) | 17:26 | |
| greg-g | I have to log in using twitter or facebook? | 17:26 |
| greg-g | how can I join with you guys?!?!?! | 17:27 |
| snap-l | Yeah, I held my nose. | 17:27 |
| Wolfger | snap-l sold out! | 17:27 |
| greg-g | what room? | 17:27 |
| snap-l | http://outloud.fm/UbuntuAllstars | 17:28 |
| greg-g | this is. amazing. | 17:30 |
| snap-l | Yes, yes it is. | 17:30 |
| snap-l | I'm starting to consider making an icecast station | 17:31 |
| snap-l | save for my upload bandwidth sucks | 17:32 |
| greg-g | damn no ogg support | 17:32 |
| jcastro | they're working on it | 17:33 |
| greg-g | so, what's the theme here? | 17:34 |
| greg-g | in UbuntuAllstars | 17:34 |
| jrwren | snap-l: you logged into outloud.fm ? | 17:35 |
| jcastro | greg-g: free for all I guess | 17:35 |
| jcastro | we've been going through moods depending on what the guy in front of you plays | 17:36 |
| snap-l | jrwren: yes, yes I did | 17:39 |
| snap-l | <- shameface. | 17:39 |
| rick_h_ | any RT <3 appreciated: https://twitter.com/#!/BookieBmarks/status/81040163366645760 | 17:48 |
| binbrain | jrwren: that humpty dance recap is hilarious | 17:54 |
| smoser | rick_h_, so, the person i asked regarding "how do i buy an ubuntu server" said "HP in my mind" | 18:11 |
| rick_h_ | smoser: ok, I've heard that as well | 18:11 |
| rick_h_ | just disappointed I couldn't price/build on their site | 18:11 |
| smoser | i do not recal if you have issues finding exactly what on the hp site was "supported' or not | 18:11 |
| smoser | ah. | 18:11 |
| greg-g | jcastro: quit slacking and queue up some songs :) | 18:11 |
| rick_h_ | but good to know I should go ahead and put the extra work into contacting for a quote | 18:11 |
| smoser | rick_h_, http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/make/HP/servers | 18:14 |
| smoser | http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF25a/15351-15351-3328412-241644-241475-4091408.html | 18:14 |
| rick_h_ | nice, ty | 18:14 |
| rick_h_ | yea, that's the model I was checking out | 18:15 |
| jrwren | HILARIOUS | 18:16 |
| jrwren | its super funny day today. | 18:16 |
| jrwren | humpty dance | 18:16 |
| jrwren | and Y! Question about techno | 18:16 |
| jrwren | and | 18:16 |
| rick_h_ | oh actually no, these are 1u versions | 18:16 |
| jrwren | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFuyE_VBeO8&feature=share | 18:16 |
| brousch | dell ships servers with red hat or drdos | 18:16 |
| brousch | my 3 servers are dell over the last 10 years and i've not had any problems | 18:17 |
| rick_h_ | yea, Jim runs dells for his pgsql server as well | 18:18 |
| rick_h_ | but heard a lot of good about HP boxes lately, but you can't build/order online so ugh | 18:18 |
| rick_h_ | and system76 has a nice box | 18:18 |
| rick_h_ | oh well, have time yet before I have to bring it up to the wife | 18:19 |
| jrwren | for home? | 18:19 |
| brousch | you need a server at home? | 18:19 |
| jrwren | for home build a nice desktop | 18:19 |
| jrwren | call it a server. | 18:19 |
| brousch | i use a crusty old laptop with a broken screen | 18:19 |
| rick_h_ | once I get bookie multi user going, I might look at a big box for it end of year, next year | 18:19 |
| rick_h_ | my colo box now won't hold up to web serving, background processing, and db load | 18:20 |
| rick_h_ | it's 4yr old + | 18:20 |
| brousch | EC2? | 18:20 |
| rick_h_ | no, disk throughput isn't good enough imo for a good postgres install | 18:20 |
| rick_h_ | I might have ec2 web front ends, and I'll definitely use it for the readable parsing back end scripts | 18:20 |
| brousch | but what about your bandwidth? | 18:20 |
| rick_h_ | but not for the main site | 18:20 |
| rick_h_ | we'll see | 18:21 |
| rick_h_ | I'll run the alpha and start on the current colo box | 18:21 |
| rick_h_ | but trying to setup some goals/things to work towards | 18:21 |
| rick_h_ | server hardware pron :) | 18:22 |
| brousch | ug, i hate hardware | 18:22 |
| jrwren | _1 | 18:23 |
| rick_h_ | yea, but trying to scale a db on EC2 isn't fun from what I can tell | 18:23 |
| rick_h_ | people doing crap like raid'ing 6+ EBS volumes to get throughput on there | 18:23 |
| jrwren | you don't. | 18:23 |
| jrwren | you design apps to run on EC2 | 18:23 |
| jrwren | that don't use relational DB | 18:23 |
| rick_h_ | http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/2009/08/06/ec2ebs-single-and-raid-volumes-io-bencmark/ | 18:23 |
| rick_h_ | right, but that's the fun of bookie, it's meant to work with sqlite in a single user install | 18:24 |
| rick_h_ | yet I want to grow things to be able to run a large multi-user install with tons of links/content I can build cool 'big data' services/tools on | 18:24 |
| brousch | doesn't amazon have a DB thing? | 18:25 |
| jrwren | http://aws.amazon.com/rds/ | 18:25 |
| rick_h_ | yea, mysql only | 18:25 |
| smoser | oracle | 18:26 |
| rick_h_ | lol, oh got me there | 18:26 |
| rick_h_ | or oracle | 18:26 |
| brousch | who all is going to pyohio? | 18:27 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g! | 18:27 |
| brousch | really? | 18:28 |
| rick_h_ | he's not aware of it yet, but we're kidnapping him | 18:28 |
| brousch | excellent | 18:28 |
| brousch | i'm gonna have to beat some commitments out of grpuggers on monday | 18:42 |
| * greg-g hides | 18:42 | |
| brousch | it looks like the holiday inn is full up | 18:42 |
| rick_h_ | http://vimeo.com/25023898 kind of cool | 18:43 |
| rick_h_ | loud music in there work warning | 18:43 |
| binbrain | Pandora is worth 4.2 billion according to the IPO, wholly bubble | 18:43 |
| rick_h_ | yea, gotta love it... *sigh* | 18:43 |
| brousch | crazy | 18:43 |
| rick_h_ | who's next? I know there were some more coming | 18:43 |
| brousch | FB | 18:44 |
| brousch | probably worth the US national debt | 18:44 |
| greg-g | binbrain: wasn't there a good post about how pandora actaully loses more money the more users they have? | 18:44 |
| rick_h_ | don't get me wrong, <3 pandora and I am a paying member | 18:44 |
| binbrain | didn't read it, but it would make sense | 18:44 |
| rick_h_ | but no way they're a $B company | 18:44 |
| brousch | sucker. you can listen for free! | 18:44 |
| rick_h_ | yea, but goold ole "if I give them money maybe they won't go away" | 18:45 |
| rick_h_ | and no ads...did I mention I hate the world we live in with ads? | 18:45 |
| rick_h_ | charge me a small fee kthx | 18:45 |
| brousch | snap-l is my dj | 18:45 |
| binbrain | My wife is already paying member, I think I will be soon, they are getting more aggressive with there ads | 18:45 |
| binbrain | including interrupting in the middle of songs | 18:45 |
| brousch | binbrain: my wife is hinting at it too | 18:45 |
| rick_h_ | ouch | 18:45 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I've got that grace internet radio and my wife and I love pandora on it | 18:46 |
| rick_h_ | parties, friends over playing cards, hanging out with the boy, nice to have some music background | 18:46 |
| brousch | my boy has his own computer. he is our dj at home | 18:46 |
| brousch | which might explain why my wife walks around with headphones most of the time ... | 18:47 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 18:48 |
| brousch | i should spam the outloud room with his music | 18:49 |
| rick_h_ | http://vimeo.com/12112529 ok that is just awesome | 18:50 |
| rick_h_ | damn I wish I was artistic sometimes | 18:51 |
| brousch | you make the platforms the artists can distribute through | 18:51 |
| brousch | but i know what you mean | 18:52 |
| snap-l | OK, have to say that outloud.fm was awesome | 18:54 |
| greg-g | indeed, I'm just getting ready for a call, so had to dip out | 18:55 |
| snap-l | Yeah, me too | 18:55 |
| brousch | yeah, i got on just as i hit phone duty | 18:55 |
| Wolfger | PyOhio hotel is booked? | 18:57 |
| Wolfger | Hmm. | 18:57 |
| brousch | one of them, others seem ok | 18:57 |
| rick_h_ | what did I see? they only have something like 5 rooms, but the price keeps going or something | 18:57 |
| rick_h_ | or was that the blackwell | 18:57 |
| Wolfger | Oh well... not like it's a Perl conference or anything cool ;-) | 18:58 |
| brousch | i think the blackwell is the only walkable one. others need busses or driving | 18:58 |
| rick_h_ | yea, <3 blackwell once you get past some light sticker shock | 18:58 |
| rick_h_ | at least for breakfast | 18:58 |
| brousch | i have started skipping breakfast | 18:59 |
| Wolfger | Some day I will plunge into Python, and then I will have to go experience the awesomeness. | 18:59 |
| brousch | Wolfger: by the time you get to python the world will have moved on | 18:59 |
| brousch | javascript is the next hotness | 18:59 |
| Wolfger | brousch: likely so | 18:59 |
| rick_h_ | naw, you need both | 18:59 |
| brousch | for now you do | 18:59 |
| snap-l | I'm going to have to buy Jono some drum sounds for Christmas | 19:00 |
| rick_h_ | my latest code (from the bookie weekly report) is part node.js/javascript and part python | 19:00 |
| snap-l | that snare sound he has sounds like a bossanova rim shot | 19:00 |
| Wolfger | and O'Reilly says we can't live without Javascript now. They wouldn't lie just to sell books, would they? | 19:00 |
| brousch | javascript is in everything | 19:00 |
| rick_h_ | bah, they sell books all over | 19:00 |
| rick_h_ | but yea, hard to escape it these days in a lot of app worlds | 19:00 |
| brousch | even your desktop if you run win8 or gnome3 | 19:00 |
| snap-l | Oh no, you got Javascript all over me | 19:00 |
| Wolfger | money shot! | 19:01 |
| Blazeix | My new TV runs javascript | 19:02 |
| Blazeix | that's how you make apps for it | 19:02 |
| Blazeix | I was pretty excited when I found out | 19:02 |
| rick_h_ | Blazeix: yea, I was going to ask what tv that was | 19:02 |
| brousch | see, it's even in your tv | 19:02 |
| rick_h_ | I wasn't sure if that was part of your work project or just for fun | 19:02 |
| snap-l | Better get the 409 | 19:02 |
| Wolfger | .... javascript in a TV? | 19:02 |
| snap-l | maybe even the Bissell | 19:02 |
| rick_h_ | Blazeix: CHC? | 19:02 |
| brousch | cross-platform mobile apps? javascript | 19:02 |
| rick_h_ | I might seriously get a pre3 when it comes out later this year | 19:03 |
| Blazeix | just for fun. samsung un46d7000 | 19:03 |
| rick_h_ | dev for that thing is just too good | 19:03 |
| Blazeix | I'll be at CHC tonight | 19:03 |
| rick_h_ | oh, one of the nice new fancy ones | 19:03 |
| brousch | rick_h_: have you tried phonegap? it's nice | 19:03 |
| rick_h_ | 3g right? | 19:03 |
| Blazeix | it looks like all the new samsung tvs have javascript/html5 apps | 19:03 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: no, it's on my todo to test out what it would take to get bookie's mobile into there | 19:04 |
| rick_h_ | and see how performance compares | 19:04 |
| rick_h_ | but not there yet | 19:04 |
| snap-l | Yo Dawg, I got your Javascript in your TV so you can Javascript while you TV. | 19:04 |
| rick_h_ | woot woot | 19:04 |
| brousch | it's really simple. you just make a webapp and it offers you some native access through simple APIs | 19:05 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: yea, I'd have to see how much work there is to port/move things over | 19:06 |
| rick_h_ | right now the mobile site is one page of html and 4 js libraries of apis/jquery/etc | 19:06 |
| brousch | but the html comes from a genshi template or something | 19:07 |
| rick_h_ | yea, mako template, but it's one file. nothing too dynamic in the page load | 19:07 |
| rick_h_ | it all comes down via an initial onload api call | 19:07 |
| rick_h_ | anyway, yea I'll peek at that sometime | 19:08 |
| rick_h_ | would be cool to see if the work to build into native pays off for some better performance | 19:08 |
| rick_h_ | and eventually offline potential/etc | 19:08 |
| brousch | i don't think you'll see a performance increase | 19:08 |
| brousch | phonegap is just a wrapper around webkit | 19:09 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I'm not sure. Some of it is the jquery slowness which I figured might get a boost | 19:09 |
| rick_h_ | but not sure | 19:09 |
| brousch | all you'll save is download time | 19:09 |
| rick_h_ | meh, then not worried about that part | 19:09 |
| Wolfger | Hey, PyOhio is a <30 minute walk from a campground... | 19:10 |
| brousch | ew | 19:10 |
| Wolfger | doesn't really look like a campground, though. Looks like an RV park | 19:12 |
| brousch | rick_h_: does offline even make sense for a bookmark sharing program? | 19:12 |
| Wolfger | from the Google maps satellite view | 19:12 |
| snap-l | OK, I just need a little reality check here | 20:00 |
| snap-l | http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2011/06/14/oss-contribution-and-consumption | 20:00 |
| snap-l | This is a survey from the Eclipse Foundation | 20:00 |
| snap-l | Survey of organizations who employ OSS in some capacity | 20:01 |
| snap-l | If you're using Eclipse, that's OSS | 20:01 |
| snap-l | I guess there's people who don't use Eclipse at work | 20:01 |
| brousch | i use it everywhere possible because it is awesome | 20:02 |
| snap-l | n/m, maybe I'm just reading something into it that isn't there. | 20:02 |
| jrwren | what are you talking about? | 20:33 |
| snap-l | jrwren: Don't mind me. | 20:42 |
| snap-l | jrwren: I was inferring that some Eclipse developers don't know that they're using OSS | 20:42 |
| snap-l | but that's not an inference that I can make | 20:42 |
| jrwren | not all eclipse is OSS too. | 20:45 |
| jrwren | e.g. FlexBuilder from adobe. | 20:45 |
| jrwren | and WebSphere Studio from IBM | 20:45 |
| jrwren | both eclipse... but not OSS | 20:45 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: what?! Milosz Tanski has an updated current title: Senior iCloud Software | 21:06 |
| rick_h_ | +Engineer at Apple Inc. | 21:06 |
| rick_h_ | that's kind of crazy | 21:06 |
| jcastro | hah | 21:06 |
| jcastro | no wonder he has mad at me for making fun of apple | 21:07 |
| jcastro | I thought he was still at Facebook | 21:07 |
| jrwren | senior is the craziest part, lol. | 21:13 |
| snap-l | For those of us who have been living under a rock, who is Milosz? | 21:15 |
| jrwren | was a local linux guy. | 21:16 |
| jrwren | went to OU while jorge worked there. | 21:16 |
| jrwren | smart guy. | 21:16 |
| snap-l | Ah, OK | 21:16 |
| rick_h_ | He was an ann arbor-ite with a nice ruski accent that started moving around and working at the big places | 21:16 |
| rick_h_ | I missed the time at facebook I guess | 21:16 |
| jcastro | http://www.crunchbase.com/person/milosz-tanski | 21:16 |
| jcastro | oh, forgue just told me he never went to FB, just interviewed there | 21:17 |
| snap-l | Holy fuck, he has a crunchbase profile? :) | 21:17 |
| rick_h_ | ah ok, yea didn't remember that part | 21:17 |
| jcastro | http://www.crunchbase.com/person/jorge-castro | 21:17 |
| jcastro | !!!!! | 21:17 |
| snap-l | http://www.crunchbase.com/person/jorge-castro | 21:17 |
| brousch | that says he's polish | 21:17 |
| snap-l | He work on the Ubuntu Community Team for Canonical Ltd. | 21:17 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: yea, I didn't recall where he was actually from | 21:18 |
| snap-l | He work-a like a man | 21:18 |
| jcastro | he is polish | 21:18 |
| brousch | jcastro: nice ingrish in your profile there | 21:18 |
| snap-l | I changed it | 21:18 |
| snap-l | "He works as part of the Ubuntu..." | 21:18 |
| jcastro | I didn't even know I had a profile | 21:19 |
| rick_h_ | I didn't even know wtf crunchbase was | 21:19 |
| snap-l | jcastro: You famous | 21:19 |
| snap-l | you work | 21:19 |
| brousch | i still don't | 21:19 |
| brousch | you can change other people's profiles? | 21:19 |
| jcastro | it's like the company/people database for techcrunch | 21:20 |
| snap-l | Yep. I changed Mark Zuckerberg's to say that he owns the internet's first taco truck | 21:20 |
| jcastro | it must mean I've graduated to valley-level douchebaggery | 21:20 |
| snap-l | jcastro: Congratulations? | 21:20 |
| jcastro | heh | 21:21 |
| jcastro | snap-l: did you see the thing where Jason Calacanis said blogging is over and stupid people should just stop blogging because there are too many stupid people on the internet | 21:21 |
| jcastro | it's like, hello, pot, kettle. | 21:21 |
| snap-l | jcastro: I think Jason Calacanis should shoot off his dick so he stops propagating stupid. | 21:22 |
| brousch | wow | 21:22 |
| jrwren | i feel dirty for even knowing who 16:22 snap-l| jcastro: I think Jason Calacanis should shoot off his dick so he stops propagating | 21:22 |
| snap-l | Well, he has these ideas that start off nice, and then turn into MLM shit. | 21:22 |
| rick_h_ | hold on...I'll fix it " because there are too many stupid people | 21:22 |
| rick_h_ | " | 21:22 |
| jrwren | i feel dirty for even knowing who Calacanis is | 21:22 |
| snap-l | There was a short period where I thought that calacanis was reforming | 21:23 |
| snap-l | but frankly, he's an idiot that thinks there's brilliance in appropriating other people's ideas. | 21:23 |
| jcastro | I think what he really wants is for people to stop blogging so they can content farm their garbage on mahalo | 21:23 |
| snap-l | Again, Mahalo was a neat idea, but turned into a shitpile | 21:24 |
| snap-l | And his "This week in [douche]" douchebaggery was the final straw. | 21:25 |
| snap-l | Calacanis and Arrington should just go bowling sometime | 21:25 |
| snap-l | With C4 bowling balls | 21:25 |
| jjesse | wow lots of hate | 21:26 |
| jjesse | i thought he just disappeared, hadn't heard anything from him in a long time | 21:26 |
| snap-l | He's a grumpy man, like Rupert Murdock | 21:26 |
| snap-l | Sorry, but that blogging remark really irritates me | 21:27 |
| snap-l | Also, if blogging is dead, then why does he still have an RSS feed and pictures of his bulldogs? | 21:28 |
| snap-l | "You have to have a deep understanding to be a blogger," Calacanis said. | 21:28 |
| jjesse | wow snap-l you have lots of hate :) | 21:29 |
| snap-l | Apparently jcastro found a sort spot | 21:29 |
| snap-l | http://decafbad.net/2011/06/15/jason-calacanis-stop-pissing-in-the-internet-pool/ | 21:35 |
| greg-g | did anyone take photos last night? rick_h_ snap-l jcastro widox smoser | 23:53 |
| greg-g | I failed at that | 23:53 |
| snap-l | I took one photo of you | 23:53 |
| snap-l | I think gib recorded it, but I'll be damned if I know what he does with them | 23:54 |
| snap-l | Or, more likely, I shudder to think what might be done with them | 23:54 |
| brousch | he must post it somewhere | 23:56 |
| snap-l | I have NFC | 23:58 |
| greg-g | he said he usually did youtube, but this'll be a bit big for that, so I suggested archive.org | 23:59 |
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