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cyberangersorry mate, crazy day02:02
* cyberanger hates Charter (at least as an ISP)02:02
ComputerChicHi all :) I am new to this irc channel.06:57
ComputerChicIs anyone in Nashville?06:57
cyberangerComputerChic: welcom to the Ubuntu Tennessee Loco06:57
ComputerChiccyberanger: TY06:57
cyberangerthere is indeed, however, I'm outside Chattanooga myself06:58
cyberangerwhile we do have some night owls, we used to have more of them06:58
ComputerChicI am in Nashville, I am looking for a loco in Nash.06:58
Unit193ComputerChic: Howdy! Welcome!06:59
cyberanger0158 here, not as bad for Nashville and Memphis, 005806:59
cyberangerComputerChic: we cover the whole state, middle region's leader currently is pace_t_zulu out of nashville06:59
cyberangerlikely asleep atm06:59
ComputerChicUnit193: Hi07:01
cyberangerComputerChic: are you usually a night owl?07:01
ComputerChicYes, My husband works a night shift at a IT company.07:02
ComputerChicSo I keep his schedule so we can actually have some time together.07:02
cyberangerfew seem to do night shifts nowadays, I preferred it07:03
cyberangerunfortunately, prefrence alone didn't keep that gig07:03
Unit193ComputerChic: What time do you normally get off?07:03
ComputerChicAs do I. I am a night owl in general so the night shift helps.07:04
ComputerChicOh I don't work. But my husband works an 11 to 7 shift.07:04
Unit193I was thinking getting off the computer/go to bed...07:05
cyberangerUnit193: sounds like a plan, cannot really strech it out tonight07:06
ComputerChicI wish I could take a nap but have house to do.07:07
cyberangerwork beeper has yet to go off, and I got the 10 AM till 'whenever things get done' shift tommorow07:07
Unit193cyberanger: I'm doing goot to be off by ~3am...07:07
cyberangerso yeah, gotta sleep while I can07:07
Unit193I'm also doing good too07:07
cyberangerUnit193: with my sleep, never really gone gone, old habits, they die hard07:08
cyberangerso it's a nap, something gets me up, 2 hours sleep, putter around, 2 more sleep, repeat07:09
Unit193And I may be getting a 1st shift job...07:09
Unit193That can't be good for you..07:09
cyberangerComputerChic: you'll catch some people in the morning, for sure, and maybe at the begining07:09
cyberangerUnit193: probally not, old habits though...07:10
cyberangershift work, that's nice, never been that simple for me07:10
ComputerChiccyberanger: ok, thanks for the chatting. sleep well.07:10
Unit193I'll still be around for a while yet07:11
cyberangerComputerChic: kinda sorry, we had night owls and idk, not tonight I guess, not like before at least07:11
ComputerChiccyberanger: It's alright.07:14
cyberangerif you happen to be on at (trying to think in central after thinking GMT for a few days, ugh) 7am, 8am or so, you'll see alot more of us on here, including at least one middle tn member07:14
ComputerChicOK07:14
cyberangerUnit193: I had a link here somewhere for you earlier today, an openbox mod that looked intresting, backtrack-ish07:15
cyberangerI'll have to dig that up in the morning07:16
* cyberanger detaches GNU Screen07:16
Unit193He must be an irssi or weechat fan07:17
Unit193cyberanger: I don't always read up in the morning, but if you ping me, I'll se it07:17
Unit193ComputerChic: Still with us?08:01
ComputerChicUnit193: Yes, Just wating the little girl's murder trial on streaming video.08:02
Unit193I was going to ask what version/flavor of Ubuntu you use, but I guess there is nothing to say after that...08:04
ComputerChicUnit193: atm, I am using opensuse which is my main box. But I use ubuntu 10.04 on my laptop & unr on my netbook.08:06
Unit193Ah, early Unity, how do you like it?08:07
ComputerChicI love 10.4 but really could less about unity. I don't like 11.4.08:08
ComputerChicUnit193: What do you use?08:08
Unit193I'm on 11.04, but I have yet to use Unity08:09
Unit193I use Lubuntu 10.10 and Xubuntu 11.0408:09
ComputerChicUnit193: Cool, I have used them on a vm and I liked them. But I am stuck in my ways of what distros I like.08:10
ComputerChic:)08:10
ComputerChicbrb08:11
Unit193I understand that. Last time I had a real install of "Ubuntu" was 6.10 (And I still have the install disk)08:12
ComputerChicK08:14
ComputerChiclol08:14
ComputerChicUnit193: Where are you located if you mind my asking?08:15
Unit193Heh, yeah... I'm just hanging out with the Tennessee team, I'm not really in Tennessee08:16
ComputerChicUnit193: oh ok08:16
Unit193They haven't kicked me out yet! And another person is from Florida08:18
ComputerChicUnit193: :P I wouldn't think it would be that big of an isses.08:19
Unit193I'm from Ohio anyway (Not a bad team) I first came here looking for a bot they used to use/created08:20
ComputerChicOh ok08:20
ComputerChicHow did you come learn anout Linux¿08:21
ComputerChic?08:21
Unit193I think it was a friend... It's been some time (I'm not really that old though)08:22
ComputerChicCool08:22
Unit193How about you?08:23
ComputerChicwhen my husband and I were dating he installed opensuse on my laptop at the time.08:24
Unit193What's the package manager for Suse?08:26
ComputerChicSoftware management/rpm08:27
ComputerChicand rpm08:27
ComputerChicor do you mean Yast2?08:28
Unit193That works!08:29
Unit193I'm more of a deb/apt fan (Launchpad/GetDeb is a plus for that too)08:30
ComputerChicOk08:31
Unit193I'm not really past trying any distro though08:32
ComputerChicNor am I.... I'll try any distro at least once.08:32
Unit193I'm more in need of lightweight distros like AntiX (Mostly debian based) and kinda Lubuntu08:34
ComputerChicOh ok08:35
Unit193With a celeron 500MHz, you kinda need something lightweight ;)08:39
ComputerChicYeah08:46
pace_t_zulumorning y'all14:26
vychuneo/14:28
pace_t_zuluXpistos: i reckon your team membership expired14:34
XpistosOh, what do I need to do?14:35
Xpistoshey do we have someone hosting ubuntu-tennessee.org yet?14:37
wrstyes Xpistos we do14:40
Xpistosgood14:41
Xpistoswhen I went looking to renew my membership, i say the letter from rich14:41
wrsthave you renewed Xpistos?14:42
XpistosI am trying to get logged into launchpad now14:43
XpistosHow do I renew?14:45
XpistosDo I just join the team?14:46
wrstXpistos: let me renew you that way you won't be there twice ;)14:57
Xpistoscool14:57
XpistosI knew there was a reason why I love you14:57
wrst_hmm I lost me connection!14:59
* wrst really needs a battery backup15:03
vychunelol15:04
* pace_t_zulu thinks wrst really needs an ec2 deployment15:15
pace_t_zulugood hustle on Xpistos wrst15:16
pace_t_zuluwrst: is the king of approving new members15:16
pace_t_zuluall hail king wrst15:16
pace_t_zulu;)15:16
pace_t_zuluanyone else here get solicited to contribute to "Linux Identity Magazine" ?15:17
wrstthank you my servants :P15:17
pace_t_zuluwrst: did Linux Identity magazine contact you?15:21
wrstnope not that I know of15:25
jfenn2199Morning all15:51
vychuneo/16:01
pace_t_zuluwrst: an email from "Caroline Torner"16:09
pace_t_zului wonder how she got my name ... i would expect if it's via ubuntu-tennessee - then at least cyberanger would have been solicited as well16:09
pace_t_zuluor perhaps mhall ... he is connected in these ways16:10
pace_t_zuluwrst: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Kg4csWSw16:11
wrstinteresting pace_t_zulu16:12
=== Juzzy- is now known as Juzzy
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: who16:32
pace_t_zulucyberanger: who what?16:32
cyberangerthe solicitation, "Caroline Torner"16:33
pace_t_zulucyberanger: did you read that pastebin that I alerted wrst to ^16:34
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: oh, sorry, reading16:37
wrstcyberanger: get to it ;)16:38
pace_t_zului guess i'm just wondering how she came upon me16:38
pace_t_zulu^ poor choice of words16:39
pace_t_zului don't know how she would identify me other than through this group16:39
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: I am the trustee, your a leader in Middle TN, but you head the LinkedIN acct and FB Acct16:40
cyberangerperhaps that is why you were selected16:40
pace_t_zuluperhaps ... but as far as i know the facebook account doesn't indicate that i'm the head of that account16:41
pace_t_zuluand i'm not too familiar with linkedin16:41
pace_t_zulujust maintain a presence there16:41
cyberangeryour ties with Vanderbuilt?16:42
cyberangeridk, that's intresting, afaik, that about summs up why it'd be just you16:43
cyberanger(that and my spam box being more selective)16:43
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: an alert from when you switched us to an open group on LinkedIn "On May 10, the group owner (John Haitas) switched Ubuntu Tennessee Local Community Group to be open. Previous discussions are stored in a read-only archive for members only. All new discussions can be seen by non-LinkedIn members, shared on Twitter and Facebook, and indexed by search engines."16:44
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: it's clear your the group owner16:47
pace_t_zulucyberanger: thanks for the heads up on that ... i wonder if i can delete that16:49
pace_t_zulucyberanger: on that note - we should be spreading admin rights for these groups around ... i think i've already got several guys approved as admins to the facebook account (i would think you would be one of them)16:50
cyberangernot realistically, nature of LinkedIN being a social resmue16:50
cyberangerafaik I'm not on facebook, but I am on LinkedIN16:50
pace_t_zulucyberanger: i can delete that switch to an open group message ... but i don't see it as a problem being there ... reminds people that we're around16:52
cyberangeryeah, it's not the message, elsewhere will have that too, listing group owner John Haitas :-/16:53
cyberangerI thought we were spread out, just a matter of leadership vanishing16:54
pace_t_zulucyberanger: you are a "manager" ... as are binarymutant and ericG ... i should probably retract that status from them - not that i am concerned they would do anything malicious ... just that it isn't reflective of their participation...16:54
cyberangerwell, as <strike>benevolent dictator</strike>trustee I'm fine with distrubing things out some more16:54
pace_t_zulucyberanger: i think its generally a good thing16:55
cyberangeryeah, I overlooked it on the last transition16:55
pace_t_zulucyberanger: any ideas as to how to change the "owner" of the linkedin group?16:55
pace_t_zulucyberanger: i don't think we can do it without giving ownership to an individual ....16:56
pace_t_zulucyberanger: on that basis - do you have any objections to me retaining the "owner" role?16:56
pace_t_zuluwrst: are you on linkedin ?17:01
wrsthave been dont' know now or not never really used it pace_t_zulu17:01
cyberangerwrst: you are17:02
cyberangerI recall you often enough on it17:02
cyberangeror at least you were17:02
wrsti was at one time cyberanger, just never used it17:02
pace_t_zuluwrst: go ahead and join our group if you can17:03
pace_t_zuluwrst http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Ubuntu-Tennessee-Local-Community-Group-2081103?17:03
cyberangerah17:04
jfenn2199pace_t_zulu I was solicited as well18:04
pace_t_zulujfenn2199: interesting... that may give us some insight ...18:04
pace_t_zulujfenn2199: i wonder what you and i have in common that we don't have in common with wrst and cyberanger18:05
jfenn2199That I don't know I'm considering emailing back and inquiring if nothing more to figure it out I'm highly skeptical of cold emails18:06
jfenn2199Especially since I've been out of the loop so long18:07
wrstjfenn2199: hello18:14
pace_t_zulujfenn2199: i'd be curious if they compensate contributors18:16
jfenn2199Hey wrst I'll talk more in a bit smoke break is over18:16
jfenn2199And pace_t_zulu as would I18:16
wrstcool see you around jfenn219918:17
pace_t_zulujfenn2199: let me know if you find out anything18:19
pace_t_zulufyi ... very interesting article about adobe and flash ... "Abobe: No more cornering the market" http://www.itworld.com/it-managementstrategy/174123/abobe-no-more-cornering-market18:26
pace_t_zulu^ article points to the failure to produce 64-bit flash for linux as well as apple's snub of flash with iOS and major catalysts in the decline of flash18:29
wrstpace_t_zulu: may it die quickly and painfully if that's what it takes18:32
pace_t_zuluwrst: amen18:33
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: maybe they just haven't gotten to me yet, idk?18:34
cyberangeror spam filters18:34
wrstpace_t_zulu: I've been using the alpha/beta 64bit flash however for a while and its as ok as any18:35
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: the mag itself checks out, gonna see about the name too though18:36
cyberangerjfenn2199: the mag itself checks out, gonna see about the name too though18:36
pace_t_zulucyberanger: yea... the magazine seems to be real ...18:41
pace_t_zulucyberanger: one MAJOR red flag was headlining "OpenOffice.org 3.3: Excellent Office Suite for Everyone"18:42
pace_t_zulucyberanger: i reckon that show a fundamental disconnect with the community18:43
pace_t_zulus/show/shows/18:47
cyberangerwell, question is, are they wrong, in terms of facts (vs opinions)18:48
cyberangerUnity may be the greatest thing since sliced bread, but that's only an opinion (and not my opinion)18:49
cyberangerbut on top of that, seems the name may check out (and also may explain why that openoffice article was what it was, I've found emails to openoffice community from "her" and other signs of hearing from people, vs trying yourself or asking outside the fanboy forums)18:51
cyberangerI mean, asking somebody on an oo.o mailing list if they hate oo.o, that's not going to be likely18:52
cyberangerstill doing some digging18:52
jfenn2199Yeah cyberanger  I know of the magazine (flipped through a few times when I worked at a book store years ago)19:47
cyberangerjfenn2199: the name might too19:48
cyberangergonna make a call or two later on it19:49
jfenn2199Yeah I'm researching it in my spare time myself19:49
cyberangerseems already fairly good, but contacting us before an approved loco, or the council, or jono19:50
cyberangerand not even contacting the contact person (trustee)19:51
cyberangeridk, seems a poor way to operate19:51
jfenn2199So have we confirmed others haven't been contacted?19:52
jfenn2199(I know you haven't but other loco's and Jono?)19:52
jfenn2199And pace_t_zulu how was the persons last name spelled in your email cause mine has "Torner"19:54
jfenn2199Also how goes wrst?19:55
jfenn2199And cyberanger my another concern is why are they distributing a non-LTS as marketing toward new users?20:03
cyberangerjfenn2199: that's everyone20:05
cyberangerI started following a MaximumPC article metioning it20:06
cyberangerwell, started ubuntu at least20:06
pace_t_zulujfenn2199: "Caroline Torner"20:06
jfenn2199Ok at least there's consistancy20:07
pace_t_zulumy first recollection of booting ubuntu from a live cd was when one of my classmates in electrical engineering brought a boot disk into one of the computer labs20:07
Xpistoshey ppes20:09
Xpistosor peeps20:09
jfenn2199How goes Xpistos?20:09
Xpistoscrappy but hey, I am alive so...20:11
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: that's nice, I just sorta ran into it head first, still have that bump, but it's a minor injury than winDOS20:11
cyberangerXpistos: better than crappy and dead, yeah, hope it gets less crappy20:11
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: knoppix was my first disc, just sorta did it and done20:11
cyberangerplaying KAsteroids was nice on that junk rig20:12
cyberangerand it was nicer than the school's machines with XP on 95 era hardware, and Net Nanny wasn't making that simplier20:13
cyberanger(wasn't intrested in bypassing net nanny, but loved bypassing windows)20:13
jfenn2199Back to the grind catch up with everyone later20:14
pace_t_zulumy first experience with linux was redhat 5.x or 6.x20:16
pace_t_zulupre-fedora pre-RHEL20:16
pace_t_zuluactually i take that back20:16
pace_t_zulumy first experience with linux was in the mid nineties when i interened at an ISP here in nashville ... there was a linux box called 'intern' ... i am pretty sure that would have been running linux - but i couldn't say which distro20:17
pace_t_zuluback then the most likely one would probably have been debian20:17
vychuneo/22:32
vychuneany ipod lovers?22:37
vychunehave on acting an axx22:37
vychuneanybody home23:15
cyberangervychune: my boss loves fixing them23:16
cyberangerI love android myself however23:16
vychuneoh realllllllly23:16
vychuneme too but someone gave me one23:16
Unit193I would love to have an android. I think I would like to have a rooted nook better though...23:58

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