[02:02] <cyberanger> sorry mate, crazy day
[02:02]  * cyberanger hates Charter (at least as an ISP)
[06:57] <ComputerChic> Hi all :) I am new to this irc channel.
[06:57] <ComputerChic> Is anyone in Nashville?
[06:57] <cyberanger> ComputerChic: welcom to the Ubuntu Tennessee Loco
[06:57] <ComputerChic> cyberanger: TY
[06:58] <cyberanger> there is indeed, however, I'm outside Chattanooga myself
[06:58] <cyberanger> while we do have some night owls, we used to have more of them
[06:58] <ComputerChic> I am in Nashville, I am looking for a loco in Nash.
[06:59] <Unit193> ComputerChic: Howdy! Welcome!
[06:59] <cyberanger> 0158 here, not as bad for Nashville and Memphis, 0058
[06:59] <cyberanger> ComputerChic: we cover the whole state, middle region's leader currently is pace_t_zulu out of nashville
[06:59] <cyberanger> likely asleep atm
[07:01] <ComputerChic> Unit193: Hi
[07:01] <cyberanger> ComputerChic: are you usually a night owl?
[07:02] <ComputerChic> Yes, My husband works a night shift at a IT company.
[07:02] <ComputerChic> So I keep his schedule so we can actually have some time together.
[07:03] <cyberanger> few seem to do night shifts nowadays, I preferred it
[07:03] <cyberanger> unfortunately, prefrence alone didn't keep that gig
[07:03] <Unit193> ComputerChic: What time do you normally get off?
[07:04] <ComputerChic> As do I. I am a night owl in general so the night shift helps.
[07:04] <ComputerChic> Oh I don't work. But my husband works an 11 to 7 shift.
[07:05] <Unit193> I was thinking getting off the computer/go to bed...
[07:06] <cyberanger> Unit193: sounds like a plan, cannot really strech it out tonight
[07:07] <ComputerChic> I wish I could take a nap but have house to do.
[07:07] <cyberanger> work beeper has yet to go off, and I got the 10 AM till 'whenever things get done' shift tommorow
[07:07] <Unit193> cyberanger: I'm doing goot to be off by ~3am...
[07:07] <cyberanger> so yeah, gotta sleep while I can
[07:07] <Unit193> I'm also doing good too
[07:08] <cyberanger> Unit193: with my sleep, never really gone gone, old habits, they die hard
[07:09] <cyberanger> so it's a nap, something gets me up, 2 hours sleep, putter around, 2 more sleep, repeat
[07:09] <Unit193> And I may be getting a 1st shift job...
[07:09] <Unit193> That can't be good for you..
[07:09] <cyberanger> ComputerChic: you'll catch some people in the morning, for sure, and maybe at the begining
[07:10] <cyberanger> Unit193: probally not, old habits though...
[07:10] <cyberanger> shift work, that's nice, never been that simple for me
[07:10] <ComputerChic> cyberanger: ok, thanks for the chatting. sleep well.
[07:11] <Unit193> I'll still be around for a while yet
[07:11] <cyberanger> ComputerChic: kinda sorry, we had night owls and idk, not tonight I guess, not like before at least
[07:14] <ComputerChic> cyberanger: It's alright.
[07:14] <cyberanger> if you happen to be on at (trying to think in central after thinking GMT for a few days, ugh) 7am, 8am or so, you'll see alot more of us on here, including at least one middle tn member
[07:14] <ComputerChic> OK
[07:15] <cyberanger> Unit193: I had a link here somewhere for you earlier today, an openbox mod that looked intresting, backtrack-ish
[07:16] <cyberanger> I'll have to dig that up in the morning
[07:16]  * cyberanger detaches GNU Screen
[07:17] <Unit193> He must be an irssi or weechat fan
[07:17] <Unit193> cyberanger: I don't always read up in the morning, but if you ping me, I'll se it
[08:01] <Unit193> ComputerChic: Still with us?
[08:02] <ComputerChic> Unit193: Yes, Just wating the little girl's murder trial on streaming video.
[08:04] <Unit193> I was going to ask what version/flavor of Ubuntu you use, but I guess there is nothing to say after that...
[08:06] <ComputerChic> Unit193: atm, I am using opensuse which is my main box. But I use ubuntu 10.04 on my laptop & unr on my netbook.
[08:07] <Unit193> Ah, early Unity, how do you like it?
[08:08] <ComputerChic> I love 10.4 but really could less about unity. I don't like 11.4.
[08:08] <ComputerChic> Unit193: What do you use?
[08:09] <Unit193> I'm on 11.04, but I have yet to use Unity
[08:09] <Unit193> I use Lubuntu 10.10 and Xubuntu 11.04
[08:10] <ComputerChic> Unit193: Cool, I have used them on a vm and I liked them. But I am stuck in my ways of what distros I like.
[08:10] <ComputerChic> :)
[08:11] <ComputerChic> brb
[08:12] <Unit193> I understand that. Last time I had a real install of "Ubuntu" was 6.10 (And I still have the install disk)
[08:14] <ComputerChic> K
[08:14] <ComputerChic> lol
[08:15] <ComputerChic> Unit193: Where are you located if you mind my asking?
[08:16] <Unit193> Heh, yeah... I'm just hanging out with the Tennessee team, I'm not really in Tennessee
[08:16] <ComputerChic> Unit193: oh ok
[08:18] <Unit193> They haven't kicked me out yet! And another person is from Florida
[08:19] <ComputerChic> Unit193: :P I wouldn't think it would be that big of an isses.
[08:20] <Unit193> I'm from Ohio anyway (Not a bad team) I first came here looking for a bot they used to use/created
[08:20] <ComputerChic> Oh ok
[08:21] <ComputerChic> How did you come learn anout Linux¿
[08:21] <ComputerChic> ?
[08:22] <Unit193> I think it was a friend... It's been some time (I'm not really that old though)
[08:22] <ComputerChic> Cool
[08:23] <Unit193> How about you?
[08:24] <ComputerChic> when my husband and I were dating he installed opensuse on my laptop at the time.
[08:26] <Unit193> What's the package manager for Suse?
[08:27] <ComputerChic> Software management/rpm
[08:27] <ComputerChic> and rpm
[08:28] <ComputerChic> or do you mean Yast2?
[08:29] <Unit193> That works!
[08:30] <Unit193> I'm more of a deb/apt fan (Launchpad/GetDeb is a plus for that too)
[08:31] <ComputerChic> Ok
[08:32] <Unit193> I'm not really past trying any distro though
[08:32] <ComputerChic> Nor am I.... I'll try any distro at least once.
[08:34] <Unit193> I'm more in need of lightweight distros like AntiX (Mostly debian based) and kinda Lubuntu
[08:35] <ComputerChic> Oh ok
[08:39] <Unit193> With a celeron 500MHz, you kinda need something lightweight ;)
[08:46] <ComputerChic> Yeah
[14:26] <pace_t_zulu> morning y'all
[14:28] <vychune> o/
[14:34] <pace_t_zulu> Xpistos: i reckon your team membership expired
[14:35] <Xpistos> Oh, what do I need to do?
[14:37] <Xpistos> hey do we have someone hosting ubuntu-tennessee.org yet?
[14:40] <wrst> yes Xpistos we do
[14:41] <Xpistos> good
[14:41] <Xpistos> when I went looking to renew my membership, i say the letter from rich
[14:42] <wrst> have you renewed Xpistos?
[14:43] <Xpistos> I am trying to get logged into launchpad now
[14:45] <Xpistos> How do I renew?
[14:46] <Xpistos> Do I just join the team?
[14:57] <wrst> Xpistos: let me renew you that way you won't be there twice ;)
[14:57] <Xpistos> cool
[14:57] <Xpistos> I knew there was a reason why I love you
[14:59] <wrst_> hmm I lost me connection!
[15:03]  * wrst really needs a battery backup
[15:04] <vychune> lol
[15:15]  * pace_t_zulu thinks wrst really needs an ec2 deployment
[15:16] <pace_t_zulu> good hustle on Xpistos wrst
[15:16] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: is the king of approving new members
[15:16] <pace_t_zulu> all hail king wrst
[15:16] <pace_t_zulu> ;)
[15:17] <pace_t_zulu> anyone else here get solicited to contribute to "Linux Identity Magazine" ?
[15:17] <wrst> thank you my servants :P
[15:21] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: did Linux Identity magazine contact you?
[15:25] <wrst> nope not that I know of
[15:51] <jfenn2199> Morning all
[16:01] <vychune> o/
[16:09] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: an email from "Caroline Torner"
[16:09] <pace_t_zulu> i wonder how she got my name ... i would expect if it's via ubuntu-tennessee - then at least cyberanger would have been solicited as well
[16:10] <pace_t_zulu> or perhaps mhall ... he is connected in these ways
[16:11] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Kg4csWSw
[16:12] <wrst> interesting pace_t_zulu
[16:32] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: who
[16:32] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: who what?
[16:33] <cyberanger> the solicitation, "Caroline Torner"
[16:34] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: did you read that pastebin that I alerted wrst to ^
[16:37] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: oh, sorry, reading
[16:38] <wrst> cyberanger: get to it ;)
[16:38] <pace_t_zulu> i guess i'm just wondering how she came upon me
[16:39] <pace_t_zulu> ^ poor choice of words
[16:39] <pace_t_zulu> i don't know how she would identify me other than through this group
[16:40] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: I am the trustee, your a leader in Middle TN, but you head the LinkedIN acct and FB Acct
[16:40] <cyberanger> perhaps that is why you were selected
[16:41] <pace_t_zulu> perhaps ... but as far as i know the facebook account doesn't indicate that i'm the head of that account
[16:41] <pace_t_zulu> and i'm not too familiar with linkedin
[16:41] <pace_t_zulu> just maintain a presence there
[16:42] <cyberanger> your ties with Vanderbuilt?
[16:43] <cyberanger> idk, that's intresting, afaik, that about summs up why it'd be just you
[16:43] <cyberanger> (that and my spam box being more selective)
[16:44] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: an alert from when you switched us to an open group on LinkedIn "On May 10, the group owner (John Haitas) switched Ubuntu Tennessee Local Community Group to be open. Previous discussions are stored in a read-only archive for members only. All new discussions can be seen by non-LinkedIn members, shared on Twitter and Facebook, and indexed by search engines."
[16:47] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: it's clear your the group owner
[16:49] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: thanks for the heads up on that ... i wonder if i can delete that
[16:50] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: on that note - we should be spreading admin rights for these groups around ... i think i've already got several guys approved as admins to the facebook account (i would think you would be one of them)
[16:50] <cyberanger> not realistically, nature of LinkedIN being a social resmue
[16:50] <cyberanger> afaik I'm not on facebook, but I am on LinkedIN
[16:52] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: i can delete that switch to an open group message ... but i don't see it as a problem being there ... reminds people that we're around
[16:53] <cyberanger> yeah, it's not the message, elsewhere will have that too, listing group owner John Haitas :-/
[16:54] <cyberanger> I thought we were spread out, just a matter of leadership vanishing
[16:54] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: you are a "manager" ... as are binarymutant and ericG ... i should probably retract that status from them - not that i am concerned they would do anything malicious ... just that it isn't reflective of their participation...
[16:54] <cyberanger> well, as <strike>benevolent dictator</strike>trustee I'm fine with distrubing things out some more
[16:55] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: i think its generally a good thing
[16:55] <cyberanger> yeah, I overlooked it on the last transition
[16:55] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: any ideas as to how to change the "owner" of the linkedin group?
[16:56] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: i don't think we can do it without giving ownership to an individual ....
[16:56] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: on that basis - do you have any objections to me retaining the "owner" role?
[17:01] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: are you on linkedin ?
[17:01] <wrst> have been dont' know now or not never really used it pace_t_zulu
[17:02] <cyberanger> wrst: you are
[17:02] <cyberanger> I recall you often enough on it
[17:02] <cyberanger> or at least you were
[17:02] <wrst> i was at one time cyberanger, just never used it
[17:03] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: go ahead and join our group if you can
[17:03] <pace_t_zulu> wrst http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Ubuntu-Tennessee-Local-Community-Group-2081103?
[17:04] <cyberanger> ah
[18:04] <jfenn2199> pace_t_zulu I was solicited as well
[18:04] <pace_t_zulu> jfenn2199: interesting... that may give us some insight ...
[18:05] <pace_t_zulu> jfenn2199: i wonder what you and i have in common that we don't have in common with wrst and cyberanger
[18:06] <jfenn2199> That I don't know I'm considering emailing back and inquiring if nothing more to figure it out I'm highly skeptical of cold emails
[18:07] <jfenn2199> Especially since I've been out of the loop so long
[18:14] <wrst> jfenn2199: hello
[18:16] <pace_t_zulu> jfenn2199: i'd be curious if they compensate contributors
[18:16] <jfenn2199> Hey wrst I'll talk more in a bit smoke break is over
[18:16] <jfenn2199> And pace_t_zulu as would I
[18:17] <wrst> cool see you around jfenn2199
[18:19] <pace_t_zulu> jfenn2199: let me know if you find out anything
[18:26] <pace_t_zulu> fyi ... very interesting article about adobe and flash ... "Abobe: No more cornering the market" http://www.itworld.com/it-managementstrategy/174123/abobe-no-more-cornering-market
[18:29] <pace_t_zulu> ^ article points to the failure to produce 64-bit flash for linux as well as apple's snub of flash with iOS and major catalysts in the decline of flash
[18:32] <wrst> pace_t_zulu: may it die quickly and painfully if that's what it takes
[18:33] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: amen
[18:34] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: maybe they just haven't gotten to me yet, idk?
[18:34] <cyberanger> or spam filters
[18:35] <wrst> pace_t_zulu: I've been using the alpha/beta 64bit flash however for a while and its as ok as any
[18:36] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: the mag itself checks out, gonna see about the name too though
[18:36] <cyberanger> jfenn2199: the mag itself checks out, gonna see about the name too though
[18:41] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: yea... the magazine seems to be real ...
[18:42] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: one MAJOR red flag was headlining "OpenOffice.org 3.3: Excellent Office Suite for Everyone"
[18:43] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: i reckon that show a fundamental disconnect with the community
[18:47] <pace_t_zulu> s/show/shows/
[18:48] <cyberanger> well, question is, are they wrong, in terms of facts (vs opinions)
[18:49] <cyberanger> Unity may be the greatest thing since sliced bread, but that's only an opinion (and not my opinion)
[18:51] <cyberanger> but on top of that, seems the name may check out (and also may explain why that openoffice article was what it was, I've found emails to openoffice community from "her" and other signs of hearing from people, vs trying yourself or asking outside the fanboy forums)
[18:52] <cyberanger> I mean, asking somebody on an oo.o mailing list if they hate oo.o, that's not going to be likely
[18:52] <cyberanger> still doing some digging
[19:47] <jfenn2199> Yeah cyberanger  I know of the magazine (flipped through a few times when I worked at a book store years ago)
[19:48] <cyberanger> jfenn2199: the name might too
[19:49] <cyberanger> gonna make a call or two later on it
[19:49] <jfenn2199> Yeah I'm researching it in my spare time myself
[19:50] <cyberanger> seems already fairly good, but contacting us before an approved loco, or the council, or jono
[19:51] <cyberanger> and not even contacting the contact person (trustee)
[19:51] <cyberanger> idk, seems a poor way to operate
[19:52] <jfenn2199> So have we confirmed others haven't been contacted?
[19:52] <jfenn2199> (I know you haven't but other loco's and Jono?)
[19:54] <jfenn2199> And pace_t_zulu how was the persons last name spelled in your email cause mine has "Torner"
[19:55] <jfenn2199> Also how goes wrst?
[20:03] <jfenn2199> And cyberanger my another concern is why are they distributing a non-LTS as marketing toward new users?
[20:05] <cyberanger> jfenn2199: that's everyone
[20:06] <cyberanger> I started following a MaximumPC article metioning it
[20:06] <cyberanger> well, started ubuntu at least
[20:06] <pace_t_zulu> jfenn2199: "Caroline Torner"
[20:07] <jfenn2199> Ok at least there's consistancy
[20:07] <pace_t_zulu> my first recollection of booting ubuntu from a live cd was when one of my classmates in electrical engineering brought a boot disk into one of the computer labs
[20:09] <Xpistos> hey ppes
[20:09] <Xpistos> or peeps
[20:09] <jfenn2199> How goes Xpistos?
[20:11] <Xpistos> crappy but hey, I am alive so...
[20:11] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: that's nice, I just sorta ran into it head first, still have that bump, but it's a minor injury than winDOS
[20:11] <cyberanger> Xpistos: better than crappy and dead, yeah, hope it gets less crappy
[20:11] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: knoppix was my first disc, just sorta did it and done
[20:12] <cyberanger> playing KAsteroids was nice on that junk rig
[20:13] <cyberanger> and it was nicer than the school's machines with XP on 95 era hardware, and Net Nanny wasn't making that simplier
[20:13] <cyberanger> (wasn't intrested in bypassing net nanny, but loved bypassing windows)
[20:14] <jfenn2199> Back to the grind catch up with everyone later
[20:16] <pace_t_zulu> my first experience with linux was redhat 5.x or 6.x
[20:16] <pace_t_zulu> pre-fedora pre-RHEL
[20:16] <pace_t_zulu> actually i take that back
[20:17] <pace_t_zulu> my first experience with linux was in the mid nineties when i interened at an ISP here in nashville ... there was a linux box called 'intern' ... i am pretty sure that would have been running linux - but i couldn't say which distro
[20:17] <pace_t_zulu> back then the most likely one would probably have been debian
[22:32] <vychune> o/
[22:37] <vychune> any ipod lovers?
[22:37] <vychune> have on acting an axx
[23:15] <vychune> anybody home
[23:16] <cyberanger> vychune: my boss loves fixing them
[23:16] <cyberanger> I love android myself however
[23:16] <vychune> oh realllllllly
[23:16] <vychune> me too but someone gave me one
[23:58] <Unit193> I would love to have an android. I think I would like to have a rooted nook better though...