| perelin | yup.. its not in the list | 00:00 |
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| perelin | but this made afraid very much... | 00:01 |
| charlie-tca | It will be fine | 00:01 |
| perelin | hope so... just switched over to xubuntu from that unity monster 2 weeks ago | 00:01 |
| perelin | and i was very happy with it until 2 hours ago | 00:02 |
| perelin | :) | 00:02 |
| charlie-tca | You will be happy again. :) | 00:02 |
| perelin | allready am! | 00:02 |
| perelin | have a hand on workshop tomorrow... and an own laptop enviroment is must have | 00:03 |
| perelin | goin to bed now... thx from germany!! | 00:04 |
| nikolam | Why nobody actually fixes bugs in LTS releases. | 08:45 |
| nikolam | I just hit again that bug where, while setting and changing windows manager look, X just dies and user can not log in AT ALL to session afterwards | 08:46 |
| nikolam | Why we have updates, when fixes only land to newest regular release or in testing? | 08:46 |
| nikolam | Should not bug fixes be backported and presented to LTS and SUPPORTED releases? | 08:47 |
| TheSheep | nikolam: did you report the bug? they usually have a much better chance of being fixed when reported | 08:48 |
| nikolam | YES AGES AGO | 08:48 |
| nikolam | and I got quick fix last time on this channel | 08:49 |
| nikolam | so i continued to work | 08:49 |
| nikolam | Problem I think is that reported bugs do not necessary count in fixing it in release it was reported into. And that is the problem for all ubuntu distributions | 08:51 |
| nikolam | I was repeatedly asked "does it works in newest release" when the problem is in previous release i use. Most of the time bugs get fixed but somehow it is forgotten to update also previous releases that are still supported. | 08:53 |
| nikolam | I understand some things in lts and previous releases get updated and some do not. But.. | 08:53 |
| nikolam | gtk-theme-name="Murrine-Sky" I think that is it, in .gtkrc-2.0 | 09:01 |
| TheSheep | I think that the bug needs to have high enough severity to get backported | 09:02 |
| nikolam | I see. Like locking user from computer and never be able to log in again severity. | 09:03 |
| nikolam | I would like to know, BTW, Why "Switch user" was removed from shutdown menu, anyway | 09:14 |
| nikolam | I would like to delete that murine theme thing not to be sacked in it again | 09:20 |
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| nikolam | it is value="Wildbush" for theme in ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfwm4.xml that kills X and do not allow user to log in again. | 09:49 |
| TheSheep | nikolam: if you want it to be read by the developers, write it on the bugtracker and not here | 09:53 |
| nikolam | I might report it again, if not reported before, against what should it reported, against xfwm4-themes I think. yes that is it. | 09:53 |
| nikolam | oki | 09:53 |
| nikolam | here it is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfwm4-themes/+bug/797587 Now just to confirm it and to rise its importance to be fixed. | 10:14 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 797587 in xfwm4-themes (Ubuntu) "Changing Window theme to "Wildbush" Kills X and stop user from logging in ever again." [Undecided,New] | 10:14 |
| nikolam | Since it stops user from using account , I think it should be higher priority for LTS, too. | 10:14 |
| nikolam | "best" thing is that after changing that setting and switching few times between users, now sound does not work anymore.. | 10:17 |
| nikolam | Ah, there is a bug already reported, but someone marked it "low"?? .. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfwm4-themes/+bug/573516 | 10:23 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 573516 in xfwm4-themes (Ubuntu) "Xfce Crashes When Choosing Theme "Wildbush"" [Low,Fix released] | 10:23 |
| nikolam | Also present on 10.10, hence NOT fixed, ue to "low" priority | 10:23 |
| nikolam | And THIS is procedure to make it fixed in supported releases... : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Procedure | 10:29 |
| jozefk | \o | 12:30 |
| jozefk | which one is better way to do it and why? 1) find . -type f -iname '*name*' 2) find . -iname '*name*' -type f | 12:30 |
| TheSheep | jozefk: isn't it the same? | 12:41 |
| jozefk | it seems by default find command will put -iname first even in case of example 1) | 12:42 |
| buff27 | greetings to all xubuntu users | 13:05 |
| jozefk | greetings to you too :) | 13:17 |
| buff27 | was wondering if anyone was alive in here | 13:18 |
| jozefk | we are still all alive :) | 13:20 |
| jozefk | but I don't look at the channel all the time. especially if nobody speaks :D | 13:20 |
| buff27 | yes fair enough jozefk | 13:26 |
| charlie-tca | *GM | 13:53 |
| jozefk | it's 5pm here. so good afternoon :) | 14:04 |
| Fenix2 | *still on* needed a fix for compiz drawing no borders for windows and no top bar when upgraded from 10.10 with Emerald and Compiz installed | 15:09 |
| Sysi | emerald is deprecated, set compiz to draw window borders with something else | 15:09 |
| Fenix2 | and compiz saying during startup "No decorator found, trying all decorators" | 15:09 |
| Fenix2 | Sysi: compiz settings has a check-box "borders" clicking it does not help | 15:10 |
| Sysi | they have window borders in unity so itäs possible | 15:11 |
| Fenix2 | what's unity ? | 15:11 |
| Sysi | new ubuntu GUI | 15:11 |
| Sysi | "thing people have complained about since start of this year" | 15:12 |
| Sysi | i don't know more exactly because i hate compiz | 15:12 |
| Fenix2 | Sysi: what do I install to have something draw the damn borders with compiz as the wm | 15:13 |
| Fenix2 | gtw-border-decorations or such yielded only results in the software center for compiz oddly | 15:14 |
| Sysi | double click on "window borders" in ccsm and replace "emerald" with "gtk-window-decorator" | 15:15 |
| Fenix2 | I have to start it up. ( on a Mac now ) | 15:16 |
| Fenix2 | evil Cupertino evil | 15:16 |
| Fenix2 | Portland good | 15:17 |
| Fenix2 | Redmond evil also regrdless of do you or don't you pirate it | 15:17 |
| Sysi | you don't, on ubuntu channels | 15:17 |
| Sysi | every OS sucks | 15:17 |
| Fenix2 | Sysi: I double clicked.. now it shows that it runs command /usr/bin/compiz-decorator .. I change this ? | 15:20 |
| Sysi | does that binary exist? put that /path/ to terminal | 15:21 |
| Fenix2 | yeah.. exists | 15:23 |
| Sysi | weird.. | 15:23 |
| Sysi | you have decorator but no borders still | 15:24 |
| Fenix2 | how do I totally reset all compiz settings ? | 15:24 |
| Fenix2 | and configure it again | 15:24 |
| Fenix2 | I removed it with software center and put it back but it had old defaults it used | 15:25 |
| Sysi | some hidden file in ypur home folder | 15:26 |
| Sysi | open thunar and press Ctrl H | 15:26 |
| Sysi | maybe in .config | 15:26 |
| Fenix2 | what does that do.. should I nuke ~/.config/compiz and reinstall ? | 15:26 |
| Sysi | reinstall isn't needed | 15:28 |
| Fenix2 | so it seems I need to remove some config file.. | 15:29 |
| Fenix2 | or edit it | 15:29 |
| Fenix2 | ... | 15:29 |
| Fenix2 | If I nuke all compiz'es confs in ~/config/ does it rebuild em ? | 15:29 |
| Sysi | i just told you how to find that file for deleting it, dunno if it helps | 15:29 |
| Sysi | it copies the defsult there | 15:30 |
| Fenix2 | hmm.. | 15:30 |
| Fenix2 | There is Default.ini but that doesn't contain anything referring to external thingy to draw borders | 15:33 |
| Fenix2 | I've never before seen an Linux installation ask "There is a new version available, would you like to upgrade to 11.04?" | 15:50 |
| Fenix2 | It was too good to be true | 15:50 |
| n2diy | I've been playing with Remote Desktop Viewer, and it appears I have Vinagre installed by default as the client, and no server installed? Is there a preference as to what server should be used? | 16:14 |
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| uofm49426 | is anyone working on the freezing screen saver problems | 17:47 |
| xrdodrx | ? | 17:47 |
| uofm49426 | in xubuntu and ubuntu 11.04 | 17:48 |
| uofm49426 | start up worked find i leave to go do something and its frozen in screen saver | 17:49 |
| xrdodrx | Maybe it's your video card driver? | 17:50 |
| uofm49426 | i have a nvidia gl 330 | 17:51 |
| uofm49426 | with 1 gb ram | 17:51 |
| xrdodrx | which driver are you using? | 17:51 |
| uofm49426 | current | 17:52 |
| xrdodrx | Current? | 17:53 |
| uofm49426 | proprietary | 17:53 |
| Sysi | happens always or with just some screensaver? | 17:54 |
| uofm49426 | just the default screensaver | 17:54 |
| Sysi | you couls try disabling screensaver or left it to blanc, anyway not needed on tft screen | 17:54 |
| uofm49426 | Bug #762918 in gnome-screensaver (Ubuntu): “Natty Screensaver ... | 17:55 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 762918 in gnome-screensaver (Ubuntu) "Natty Screensaver freezes system after some period of inactivity" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/762918 | 17:55 |
| Sysi | xubuntu has xscreensaver | 17:56 |
| uofm49426 | or i can say screw it better luck with 11.10 | 17:57 |
| uofm49426 | xubuntu freezes the same way | 17:57 |
| xrdodrx | No, you don't want to be using 11.10 for anything other than testing 11.10 | 17:58 |
| uofm49426 | i ran that first i hate ubuntu i was thinking it was a flavor problem | 17:58 |
| xrdodrx | Ubuntu and Xubuntu use different screensaver programs | 17:58 |
| Sysi | setting it to blank would tell is spesific screensaver theme is buggy, it uses randomly chosen by default | 17:59 |
| xrdodrx | well if you hate ubuntu then I guess nothing I say will change your mind | 17:59 |
| xrdodrx | :( | 17:59 |
| uofm49426 | no ill going back to 10.10 till its fixed | 17:59 |
| plantoschka | your system only crashes in screensaver mode? or does it crash in more situations? | 18:00 |
| Sysi | does it crash everytime screensaver turns on? | 18:00 |
| xrdodrx | Try playing a 3D game or something that uses opengl | 18:00 |
| xrdodrx | and see if it crashes | 18:00 |
| uofm49426 | when screen shutsdown | 18:00 |
| uofm49426 | and screensaver is going | 18:01 |
| uofm49426 | games run fine | 18:01 |
| xrdodrx | are you using a CRT monitor? if not it's better to not even use a screensaver | 18:02 |
| uofm49426 | yes im using a crt | 18:02 |
| Sysi | you should also try if virtual consoles work after crash, Ctrl Alt F6 | 18:02 |
| * plantoschka didn't used screensavers for like > 10years :-D | 18:02 | |
| plantoschka | why not set it to disable the screen after a few minutes? | 18:03 |
| xrdodrx | or alt + sysrq + reisub | 18:03 |
| uofm49426 | 10.10 work flawlessly with my computer | 18:05 |
| plantoschka | hm | 18:05 |
| plantoschka | maybe update the graphic drivers? | 18:06 |
| plantoschka | or try to use the noveau drivers? | 18:06 |
| uofm49426 | i think ill try runing it in vm let it freeze will vm tell why it froze | 18:07 |
| plantoschka | think it won't freeze in the vm :-D | 18:09 |
| charlie-tca | The screensaver issue in Xubuntu is caused by the gl xscreensavers. switch to a screensaver that is not gl and it quits freezing. | 18:33 |
| charlie-tca | the screensaver issue in Ubuntu is not the same issue | 18:34 |
| Wizard | hi | 19:18 |
| plantoschka | any way to make lyrics work in gmusicbrowser? | 19:59 |
| as | hello how i put icons Ex- firefox on bar | 20:19 |
| charlie-tca | as: like Ubuntu? | 20:20 |
| charlie-tca | We don't do that. | 20:21 |
| likemindead | Anyone use cmus? Like it? Hate it? Meh? | 20:22 |
| likemindead | Howsabout moc? | 20:23 |
| as | i want put icons on up bar i am new in xubuntu it s a new install i have firefox on bar i like to know how i put more icons like openoffice etc etc | 20:24 |
| celestica_- | as, Right+Click on your panel, select the panel option, and then click on Add New Items | 20:25 |
| Sysi | on 11.04, drag from menu | 20:26 |
| celestica_- | as, Once there, you should be able to add whats called a "Launcher", from there simply input the path (probably /usr/bin/openoffice) and you should be able to launch your applications from there! | 20:26 |
| as | thanks i ggo try i use lts version | 20:27 |
| charlie-tca | if it was 11.04, firefox won't be on the panel, though | 20:27 |
| as | it's work thanks very much celestica_ | 20:30 |
| as | another question how i access to my network in thunar | 20:44 |
| slake76 | Ciao ragazzi.....posso chiedervi qualche cosettina????? | 21:32 |
| Sysi | !it | 21:32 |
| ubottu | Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette) | 21:32 |
| slake76 | ah pardon....ho preso dal sito ok | 21:33 |
| slake76 | eh ma per Xubuntu?? #xubuntu-it?? giusto???? | 21:34 |
| likemindead | slake76: /join #ubuntu-it | 21:34 |
| Unit193 | Guess not... | 21:38 |
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| kuatoAR | I need help. The mouse pointer is gone, and X toke its place and windows are not working correctly, everything was ok, then I've updated Google Chrome and now xubuntu is "brocken", any help? , thanks in advance. | 23:14 |
| kuatoAR | xubuntu 11.04 | 23:14 |
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