[00:00] yup.. its not in the list [00:01] but this made afraid very much... [00:01] It will be fine [00:01] hope so... just switched over to xubuntu from that unity monster 2 weeks ago [00:02] and i was very happy with it until 2 hours ago [00:02] :) [00:02] You will be happy again. :) [00:02] allready am! [00:03] have a hand on workshop tomorrow... and an own laptop enviroment is must have [00:04] goin to bed now... thx from germany!! [08:45] Why nobody actually fixes bugs in LTS releases. [08:46] I just hit again that bug where, while setting and changing windows manager look, X just dies and user can not log in AT ALL to session afterwards [08:46] Why we have updates, when fixes only land to newest regular release or in testing? [08:47] Should not bug fixes be backported and presented to LTS and SUPPORTED releases? [08:48] nikolam: did you report the bug? they usually have a much better chance of being fixed when reported [08:48] YES AGES AGO [08:49] and I got quick fix last time on this channel [08:49] so i continued to work [08:51] Problem I think is that reported bugs do not necessary count in fixing it in release it was reported into. And that is the problem for all ubuntu distributions [08:53] I was repeatedly asked "does it works in newest release" when the problem is in previous release i use. Most of the time bugs get fixed but somehow it is forgotten to update also previous releases that are still supported. [08:53] I understand some things in lts and previous releases get updated and some do not. But.. [09:01] gtk-theme-name="Murrine-Sky" I think that is it, in .gtkrc-2.0 [09:02] I think that the bug needs to have high enough severity to get backported [09:03] I see. Like locking user from computer and never be able to log in again severity. [09:14] I would like to know, BTW, Why "Switch user" was removed from shutdown menu, anyway [09:20] I would like to delete that murine theme thing not to be sacked in it again === th0r is now known as Guest18202 === Guest18202 is now known as th0r [09:49] it is value="Wildbush" for theme in ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfwm4.xml that kills X and do not allow user to log in again. [09:53] nikolam: if you want it to be read by the developers, write it on the bugtracker and not here [09:53] I might report it again, if not reported before, against what should it reported, against xfwm4-themes I think. yes that is it. [09:53] oki [10:14] here it is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfwm4-themes/+bug/797587 Now just to confirm it and to rise its importance to be fixed. [10:14] Ubuntu bug 797587 in xfwm4-themes (Ubuntu) "Changing Window theme to "Wildbush" Kills X and stop user from logging in ever again." [Undecided,New] [10:14] Since it stops user from using account , I think it should be higher priority for LTS, too. [10:17] "best" thing is that after changing that setting and switching few times between users, now sound does not work anymore.. [10:23] Ah, there is a bug already reported, but someone marked it "low"?? .. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfwm4-themes/+bug/573516 [10:23] Ubuntu bug 573516 in xfwm4-themes (Ubuntu) "Xfce Crashes When Choosing Theme "Wildbush"" [Low,Fix released] [10:23] Also present on 10.10, hence NOT fixed, ue to "low" priority [10:29] And THIS is procedure to make it fixed in supported releases... : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Procedure [12:30] \o [12:30] which one is better way to do it and why? 1) find . -type f -iname '*name*' 2) find . -iname '*name*' -type f [12:41] jozefk: isn't it the same? [12:42] it seems by default find command will put -iname first even in case of example 1) [13:05] greetings to all xubuntu users [13:17] greetings to you too :) [13:18] was wondering if anyone was alive in here [13:20] we are still all alive :) [13:20] but I don't look at the channel all the time. especially if nobody speaks :D [13:26] yes fair enough jozefk [13:53] *GM [14:04] it's 5pm here. so good afternoon :) [15:09] *still on* needed a fix for compiz drawing no borders for windows and no top bar when upgraded from 10.10 with Emerald and Compiz installed [15:09] emerald is deprecated, set compiz to draw window borders with something else [15:09] and compiz saying during startup "No decorator found, trying all decorators" [15:10] Sysi: compiz settings has a check-box "borders" clicking it does not help [15:11] they have window borders in unity so itäs possible [15:11] what's unity ? [15:11] new ubuntu GUI [15:12] "thing people have complained about since start of this year" [15:12] i don't know more exactly because i hate compiz [15:13] Sysi: what do I install to have something draw the damn borders with compiz as the wm [15:14] gtw-border-decorations or such yielded only results in the software center for compiz oddly [15:15] double click on "window borders" in ccsm and replace "emerald" with "gtk-window-decorator" [15:16] I have to start it up. ( on a Mac now ) [15:16] evil Cupertino evil [15:17] Portland good [15:17] Redmond evil also regrdless of do you or don't you pirate it [15:17] you don't, on ubuntu channels [15:17] every OS sucks [15:20] Sysi: I double clicked.. now it shows that it runs command /usr/bin/compiz-decorator .. I change this ? [15:21] does that binary exist? put that /path/ to terminal [15:23] yeah.. exists [15:23] weird.. [15:24] you have decorator but no borders still [15:24] how do I totally reset all compiz settings ? [15:24] and configure it again [15:25] I removed it with software center and put it back but it had old defaults it used [15:26] some hidden file in ypur home folder [15:26] open thunar and press Ctrl H [15:26] maybe in .config [15:26] what does that do.. should I nuke ~/.config/compiz and reinstall ? [15:28] reinstall isn't needed [15:29] so it seems I need to remove some config file.. [15:29] or edit it [15:29] ... [15:29] If I nuke all compiz'es confs in ~/config/ does it rebuild em ? [15:29] i just told you how to find that file for deleting it, dunno if it helps [15:30] it copies the defsult there [15:30] hmm.. [15:33] There is Default.ini but that doesn't contain anything referring to external thingy to draw borders [15:50] I've never before seen an Linux installation ask "There is a new version available, would you like to upgrade to 11.04?" [15:50] It was too good to be true [16:14] I've been playing with Remote Desktop Viewer, and it appears I have Vinagre installed by default as the client, and no server installed? Is there a preference as to what server should be used? === stdin is now known as Guest80131 === Guest80131 is now known as ts2 [17:47] is anyone working on the freezing screen saver problems [17:47] ? [17:48] in xubuntu and ubuntu 11.04 [17:49] start up worked find i leave to go do something and its frozen in screen saver [17:50] Maybe it's your video card driver? [17:51] i have a nvidia gl 330 [17:51] with 1 gb ram [17:51] which driver are you using? [17:52] current [17:53] Current? [17:53] proprietary [17:54] happens always or with just some screensaver? [17:54] just the default screensaver [17:54] you couls try disabling screensaver or left it to blanc, anyway not needed on tft screen [17:55] Bug #762918 in gnome-screensaver (Ubuntu): “Natty Screensaver ... [17:55] Launchpad bug 762918 in gnome-screensaver (Ubuntu) "Natty Screensaver freezes system after some period of inactivity" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/762918 [17:56] xubuntu has xscreensaver [17:57] or i can say screw it better luck with 11.10 [17:57] xubuntu freezes the same way [17:58] No, you don't want to be using 11.10 for anything other than testing 11.10 [17:58] i ran that first i hate ubuntu i was thinking it was a flavor problem [17:58] Ubuntu and Xubuntu use different screensaver programs [17:59] setting it to blank would tell is spesific screensaver theme is buggy, it uses randomly chosen by default [17:59] well if you hate ubuntu then I guess nothing I say will change your mind [17:59] :( [17:59] no ill going back to 10.10 till its fixed [18:00] your system only crashes in screensaver mode? or does it crash in more situations? [18:00] does it crash everytime screensaver turns on? [18:00] Try playing a 3D game or something that uses opengl [18:00] and see if it crashes [18:00] when screen shutsdown [18:01] and screensaver is going [18:01] games run fine [18:02] are you using a CRT monitor? if not it's better to not even use a screensaver [18:02] yes im using a crt [18:02] you should also try if virtual consoles work after crash, Ctrl Alt F6 [18:02] * plantoschka didn't used screensavers for like > 10years :-D [18:03] why not set it to disable the screen after a few minutes? [18:03] or alt + sysrq + reisub [18:05] 10.10 work flawlessly with my computer [18:05] hm [18:06] maybe update the graphic drivers? [18:06] or try to use the noveau drivers? [18:07] i think ill try runing it in vm let it freeze will vm tell why it froze [18:09] think it won't freeze in the vm :-D [18:33] The screensaver issue in Xubuntu is caused by the gl xscreensavers. switch to a screensaver that is not gl and it quits freezing. [18:34] the screensaver issue in Ubuntu is not the same issue [19:18] hi [19:59] any way to make lyrics work in gmusicbrowser? [20:19] hello how i put icons Ex- firefox on bar [20:20] as: like Ubuntu? [20:21] We don't do that. [20:22] Anyone use cmus? Like it? Hate it? Meh? [20:23] Howsabout moc? [20:24] i want put icons on up bar i am new in xubuntu it s a new install i have firefox on bar i like to know how i put more icons like openoffice etc etc [20:25] as, Right+Click on your panel, select the panel option, and then click on Add New Items [20:26] on 11.04, drag from menu [20:26] as, Once there, you should be able to add whats called a "Launcher", from there simply input the path (probably /usr/bin/openoffice) and you should be able to launch your applications from there! [20:27] thanks i ggo try i use lts version [20:27] if it was 11.04, firefox won't be on the panel, though [20:30] it's work thanks very much celestica_ [20:44] another question how i access to my network in thunar [21:32] Ciao ragazzi.....posso chiedervi qualche cosettina????? [21:32] !it [21:32] Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette) [21:33] ah pardon....ho preso dal sito ok [21:34] eh ma per Xubuntu?? #xubuntu-it?? giusto???? [21:34] slake76: /join #ubuntu-it [21:38] Guess not... === IdleOne is now known as OneiricOne [23:14] I need help. The mouse pointer is gone, and X toke its place and windows are not working correctly, everything was ok, then I've updated Google Chrome and now xubuntu is "brocken", any help? , thanks in advance. [23:14] xubuntu 11.04