[00:13] <micahg> is it a known issue that kdepim apps are being asked to be removed in oneiric?
[00:15] <shadeslayer> micahg: uh what?
[00:16] <micahg> I just tried upgrading and it wanted to remove akregator and friends, I'll verify later
[00:16]  * micahg still uses aptitude, so maybe that's it
[00:18] <shadeslayer> ah yes
[00:18] <shadeslayer> you need apt-get
[03:42] <ScottK> It would be nice if someone could have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports and write up a replacement for the Kubuntu (Adept) section.
[03:42] <ScottK> claydoh: ^^^ Would you be up for that?
[04:42] <micahg> shadeslayer: was just a mirror issue (wasn't caught up yet)
[06:45] <shadeslayer> micahg: ah :)
[06:46] <shadeslayer> morning everyone \o
[08:28] <shadeslayer> OMG moin moin upgrade \o/.
[08:29] <shadeslayer> Quintasan_: apachelogger yofel ^^
[08:35] <valorie> which wiki is that, shadeslayer?
[08:35] <valorie> the main Ubuntu one?
[08:51] <jussi> doe anyone else have that the dialogs in ark are unbeleivably small and need to be resized to see anything? 
[08:56] <Tm_T> valorie: main, yes
[08:57] <Tm_T> shadeslayer was too excited to provide any source, so https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2011-June/000859.html
[08:58] <valorie> awesome!
[09:16] <Quintasan_> Wiki.ubuntu.com Moin Upgrade 2011/06/16 @ 2300 UTC
[09:16] <Quintasan_> I'm not seeing things?
[09:32] <felimwhiteley> not exactly the place to ask but did kontact2/kdepim-4.6.4 or whatever it's called ever get packaged in the PPA? I've searched last few days looking for docs and am not finding anything.. it's my work machine so I don't fancy trying out the experimental PPA.. 
[09:32]  * felimwhiteley noticed caldav is finally in akonadi \\o/
[10:15] <yofel> morning
[10:15] <yofel> shadeslayer: WHUT o.O?
[10:17] <shadeslayer> yes
[10:17] <shadeslayer> i know
[10:17] <shadeslayer> yofel: i must be dreaming
[10:18]  * shadeslayer hates his new router
[10:20] <yofel> felimwhiteley: we do have packages, but we're still fixing bugs in them, hopefully should be done today
[10:22] <felimwhiteley> yofel: ah that makes sense.. I jsut thought I was missing something.. had checked my version.. online.. saw kdepimlibs5 and thought that might be it.. anyway thanks, clears it up some more
[12:43]  * Quintasan wonders why the hell he can't move slider in amarok
[12:55] <jussi> Quintasan: did you get your board? 
[12:55] <Quintasan> nope :S
[12:55] <jussi> Quintasan: what happened? 
[12:55] <Quintasan> Service request is pending~~
[12:55] <Quintasan> makes me want go and fuck that discount
[12:55] <jussi> from freescale? 
[12:56] <Quintasan> of course
[12:56] <jussi> thats insane
[13:36] <persia> Quintasan: Do you happen to remember the names of any of the Freescale folk with whom you spoke at UDS?  You might try to work around it that way.
[13:36] <persia> They might not be able to help, but it beats just being annoyed :)
[13:39] <Quintasan> persia: I tried asking Arwen (she was handling the voucher distribution) but I couldn't somehow get a hold of her
[13:40] <persia> Oh :(
[13:41] <Quintasan> Maybe it's the time zone difference but on weekends I'm usually not in bed until 4 in the morning
[13:42] <Quintasan> If that doesn't work out I can always do the procedure as if it was with no discount but I will probably have to pay something around $20
[13:43] <persia> In customs charges?
[13:43] <Quintasan> Something like this
[13:43] <jussi> Quintasan: just do that. We will find the cash if its an issue for you. 
[13:43] <Quintasan> What I learned is that Polish customs allow only 10% discount to go through without any problems
[13:44] <Quintasan> If it's more they start making problems.
[13:44]  * jussi thinks the dev time is more important than a few dollars here
[14:25] <Quintasan> jussi: Meh, I'll pay up, sending the no-discount papers
[18:28] <sheytan> yo!
[18:29] <sheytan> ho do I upgrade from natty to oneric aplha now?
[18:32] <shadeslayer> !upgrade | sheytan
[18:32] <shadeslayer> sheytan: i can haz mockup?
[18:32] <sheytan> shadeslayer for? :)
[18:32] <shadeslayer> sheytan: for my GSoC project :)
[18:32] <sheytan> which is?
[18:33] <shadeslayer> sheytan: a KCM module to add/remove syncevolution configs
[18:33] <shadeslayer> sheytan: like what telepathy does
[18:33] <sheytan> sure, but not today. Need to finish my artwork for job. Propably tomorrow, k? :)
[18:34] <shadeslayer> sure
[18:34] <shadeslayer> np
[18:34] <shadeslayer> my ff is broken
[18:34] <shadeslayer> looks horrible
[18:35] <sheytan> shadeslayer no new releases found
[18:35] <sheytan> i want to upgrade my 11.04 to 11.10
[18:35] <shadeslayer> you need the -d flag
[18:36] <sheytan> in do-release-upgrade ?
[18:36] <sheytan> works ;d
[18:36] <shadeslayer> yes: do-release-upgrade -d
[18:36] <sheytan> thanks :)
[18:36] <shadeslayer> sure np :)
[18:36] <sheytan> is there the latest build of kde 4.7 too?
[18:38] <shadeslayer> nope
[18:38] <shadeslayer> being worked upon
[18:38] <sheytan> how about pim? ;d
[18:38] <shadeslayer> a couple of bugs are being ironed out iirc
[18:39] <sheytan> well, i want to follow oneiric changes ;)
[18:40] <sheytan> ok, 40 minuts of sleep until the dload is finished. Brb :D
[19:11] <Quintasan> yofel: Do we have the newest and latest KDEPIM to test?
[19:11] <yofel> is in staging
[19:12] <yofel> need to look at it again, but if he fixed what we found yesterday it should be ready
[19:12] <yofel> still, needs retest
[19:13] <Quintasan> yofel: please look I will test
[19:13] <Quintasan> any test cases or just upgrade from KMail1 and see if works?
[19:15] <yofel> no test case I'm aware of, other than getting someone to test it that uses kmail more than I do
[19:15] <yofel> hm, still not fixed
[19:19] <yofel> well, half fixed..
[20:54] <bambee> evening
[20:57] <shadeslayer> hey bambee
[20:57] <bambee> hey!
[20:57] <bambee> ;)
[21:03] <Quintasan_> bambee: \o
[21:03] <shadeslayer> yofel: where do i report results of upgrade for KDEPIM 4.6?
[21:03] <Quintasan> The package is half broken shadeslayer
[21:03] <shadeslayer> uh
[21:03] <shadeslayer> no
[21:04] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: installed fine
[21:04] <shadeslayer> i haz base packages
[21:04] <Quintasan> yofel: Said something is missing
[21:05] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: maybe for oneiric? i see a upload for oneiric
[21:05] <Quintasan> Why do you ask me? I didn't do that
[21:06] <shadeslayer> hahaha :D
[21:06] <shadeslayer> bbiab, need to test PIM
[21:07]  * Quintasan goes to read something and I think I'll do some 4.7 magic
[21:07] <Quintasan> voodoo magic :3
[21:07] <shadeslayer> hehe
[21:07] <yofel> Quintasan: what's missing?
[21:07] <Quintasan> [20:19:23] <yofel> well, half fixed..
[21:08] <yofel> ah, kdepim-dev was still broken, fix should've built now
[21:08] <yofel> checking
[21:08] <Quintasan> oh k
[21:08]  * Quintasan installs
[21:08] <Quintasan> staging?
[21:08] <yofel> k, kdepim-dev installable
[21:08] <yofel> right, staging
[21:10] <sheytan> apachelogger pingi
[21:11] <Quintasan> 40 removals
[21:11] <Quintasan> wtf
[21:12] <yofel> reason?
[21:12] <Quintasan> moment
[21:12] <Quintasan> removing every ppa
[21:13] <Quintasan> I'll just freaking remove KDEPIM and reinstall it
[21:13] <yofel> well, shouldn't be necessary...
[21:14] <Quintasan> no freaking idea
[21:14] <Quintasan> apt-get upgrade
[21:14] <Quintasan> held
[21:14] <Quintasan>   akregator kdepim-kresources kdepim-runtime korganizer libkdepim4
[21:15] <Quintasan> what the...
[21:16] <Quintasan> yofel: libkmbox and libakonadi-calendar4 look like resons
[21:17] <Quintasan> libakonadi-calendar4: libakonadi-kde4  (= 4:4.6.2-0ubuntu1) and libkcalcore4 (= 4:4.6.2-0ubuntu1) (UNSATISFIED)
[21:17] <Quintasan> and libkmbox libkmime4 (= 4:4.6.2-0ubuntu1) (UNSATISFIED)   
[21:18] <yofel> what akonadi do you have installed, if it's the versions you probably removed a PPA
[21:19] <yofel> wtf...
[21:19] <Quintasan> 4:4.6.4-0ubuntu1~natty1~ppa1 installed
[21:19] <Quintasan> oh wait
[21:19] <Quintasan> works
[21:20] <Quintasan> I must have disable kubuntu-ppa
[21:21]  * Quintasan got a new HDD
[21:21] <Quintasan> gotta backup stuff
[21:21] <yofel> ^^
[21:22] <Quintasan> My IMAP inbox is no longer there :S
[21:22] <yofel> so much for conversion works...
[21:23] <sheytan> http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/930/login22.png
[21:23] <sheytan> lookie :D
[21:24] <shadeslayer> ok so
[21:24] <shadeslayer> Akonadi is now sync'ing 3 years worth of mail
[21:24] <shadeslayer> lets see :>
[21:24] <shadeslayer> not  ... imageshack again :'(
[21:24] <yofel> I wonder rather how to get kmail to show my mails, for some folder I have thousands of mails in there and it only shows a few
[21:25] <Quintasan> IMHO it should sync headers only
[21:25] <shadeslayer> scratch that, 5 years of mail
[21:25] <yofel> and the offline mode is junk
[21:26] <shadeslayer> yofel: offline mode is junk?
[21:26] <shadeslayer> why so?
[21:26] <yofel> it shows my mails, but if I'm without a network connection I can't actually read anything
[21:26] <yofel> sure, this is IMAP, but then it should store a copy of the mail for offline usage
[21:27] <shadeslayer> uhm, you need to enable disconnected mode
[21:27] <shadeslayer> its under the advanced tab of the akonadi IMAP resource
[21:27] <sheytan> shadeslayer here you are. Your quality breaker :D http://i.imgur.com/pS1A4.jpg
[21:28] <yofel> I did, then I told it to check for mail, waited a bit, and since it didn't seem to do anything I tried again and still couldn't read them
[21:28] <yofel> let's try again...
[21:28] <shadeslayer> sheytan:  <3
[21:28] <Quintasan> Last messages in Kubuntu Devel ML are from march
[21:28] <Quintasan> wtf
[21:28] <shadeslayer> someone plz implement that
[21:28] <sheytan> shadeslayer put it on the ML please :)
[21:29] <shadeslayer> sure
[21:29] <shadeslayer> as soon as the Label gets sync'd :P
[21:29] <sheytan> btw, i found out a cool text. it says "crApple" :D
[21:29] <sheytan> and please someone show it to appachelogger :D
[21:30] <sheytan> it's time for me now
[21:30] <sheytan> so bye all :)
[21:30] <yofel> ok, works for NEW mails
[21:30] <Quintasan> oy sheytan it's not even midnight :P
[21:30] <Quintasan> oh wait
[21:30] <sheytan> Quintasan i'm kinda tired from few days
[21:30] <sheytan> need  to sleep that
[21:30] <Quintasan> school <-- I was like skipping this whole week :P
[21:31]  * sheytan remembers the times he skipped school. <3!
[21:31] <yofel> but it still only shows me a waiting circle for my bugmail folder with no mails
[21:31] <yofel> :(
[21:31] <Quintasan> I fcking hate that mail I get from Launchpad
[21:31] <sheytan> ok, Gnight all :)
[21:32] <yofel> sigh, maybe I purge my kmail setting
[21:32] <yofel> settings
[21:32] <yofel> this isn't usable...
[21:32] <shadeslayer> yofel: yeah i had to purge everything
[21:32] <yofel> *should purge
[21:32] <shadeslayer> only then did it work
[21:32] <shadeslayer> kmail kept quitting
[21:33] <yofel> nah, it's running, but it doesn't list the mails in the folders :(
[21:33] <yofel> seem to wait for something, forever
[21:33] <yofel> *seems
[21:33]  * yofel is somewhat tired today -.-
[21:35] <Quintasan> It should die with fire
[21:35] <shadeslayer> only 2.5 years more to go
[21:35] <Quintasan> so much for backwards compatibility
[21:35] <yofel> well, I've mysqld using like ~15% CPU, so it seem to do *something*
[21:35] <shadeslayer> yeah
[21:35] <shadeslayer> heh virtuoso is going crazy
[21:37]  * Quintasan leaves it running
[21:38] <yofel> fooey, I can't tell it to put deleted mails into my IMAP accounts Trash, they all go to LocalFolders/Trash, and the settings just say 'Trash' as location
[21:38] <Quintasan> I loathe the Trash handling i KMail
[21:39] <yofel> well, I remembered again why I'm using thunderbird...
[21:39] <yofel> and I'm still waiting it to show any of the mails in my bugmail folder (rotating circle...)
[21:39] <shadeslayer> i just use the browser :P
[21:40] <yofel> then gmail has a usable software I guess, I don't like the old nor the new GMX online app
[21:40] <shadeslayer> uh
[21:41] <shadeslayer> ok i think this is a bug
[21:41] <shadeslayer> open a message in the view below the list of emails
[21:41] <shadeslayer> and try to drag the scrollbar
[21:41] <shadeslayer> undraggable
[21:41] <yofel> I don't have that preview pane enabled, sec
[21:41] <Quintasan> I never understood one thing
[21:42] <Quintasan> Why the hell are Local Folders necessary?
[21:42] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: system mail ?
[21:42] <Quintasan> Can't say I have ever used that
[21:42] <shadeslayer> people also have system generated mail, so that gets dropped into local mail iirc
[21:42] <shadeslayer> me neither
[21:43] <yofel> actually I manage to drag it every now and then, but right, this is broken
[21:43] <shadeslayer> but thats the only logical explanation for that folder to be there
[21:43] <yofel> wasn't POP3 downloaded into the local folder?
[21:43]  * shadeslayer reports
[21:43] <yofel> or I'm mixing something
[21:44] <shadeslayer> idk
[21:44] <shadeslayer> never used POP3
[21:44] <shadeslayer> deprecated tech is deprecated
[21:44] <Quintasan> way better than imap
[21:44] <Quintasan> lol wut
[21:44] <yofel> lol, not only the preview, if I open the mail in another window the scrollbar isn't draggable either
[21:44] <Quintasan> tell me that when imap works as someone expects it to
[21:45] <yofel> works fine in thunderbird :P
[21:45] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: IMAP works in thunderbird
[21:45] <tsimpson> which IMAP? there's like 5 of them now
[21:45] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Thunderbird is not an application
[21:45] <Quintasan> it's a resource eater
[21:45] <shadeslayer> what is it then? :P
[21:45] <shadeslayer> ah
[21:45] <shadeslayer> so is virtuoso and akonadi
[21:45] <yofel> right
[21:46] <Quintasan> As I said on UDS
[21:46] <Quintasan> The concept is great and all
[21:46] <yofel> actually I think that kmail + akonadi + virtuoso + mysqld uses more memory than thunderbird
[21:46] <Quintasan> but the execution of this sucks big time
[21:46]  * Quintasan purges kmail
[21:46] <yofel> I forgot nepomuk
[21:46] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: do you know what my GSoC project is?
[21:46] <shadeslayer> hmm
[21:47] <Quintasan> Nope, and TBH most of GSoC projects end up nowhere imo
[21:47] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: basically deals with sync'ing PIM data onto a anything running Syncevolution 
[21:47] <Quintasan> ...
[21:48] <Quintasan> Syncevolution?
[21:48] <Quintasan> What the hell is that?
[21:48] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: ah yes, but the ultimate goal of my project is to have a shippable GUI at the end of the program
[21:48] <Quintasan> More like, why would a normal user care about that?
[21:48] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: care about what?
[21:48] <shadeslayer> syncevolution?
[21:48] <yofel> rather implement SecretService spec in kwallet so we can have a working ubuntuone-kde
[21:48] <Quintasan> syncevolution or whatever it is called
[21:48] <shadeslayer> he wont
[21:49] <shadeslayer> syncevolution doesn't have a GUI 
[21:49] <shadeslayer> it has a GTK GUI , not a Qt/KDE one i mean
[21:49] <Quintasan> Then WHY do we want it?
[21:49] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: http://syncevolution.org/ 
[21:49] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: because it would be really usefull for plasma active
[21:49] <shadeslayer> for tablet devices and such
[21:50] <Quintasan> Useful for Plasma Active bleh bleh bleh insert more semantic crap talk
[21:50] <Quintasan> I don't like it
[21:50] <Quintasan> No, let me rephrase it
[21:50] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: notice how you can sync google contacts gets sync'd to your phone?
[21:50] <Quintasan> I don't like what I am seeing at the moment
[21:50] <shadeslayer> pretty much the same thing for active
[21:50] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: which is?
[21:50] <yofel> do we have an offline google reader app for KDE yet? implement that
[21:51] <Quintasan> the whole semantic magic stuff
[21:51] <Quintasan> NEVER worked for me
[21:51] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: ok, one sec, lemme get that video
[21:51] <Quintasan> Like that stupid Nepomuk Search
[21:51] <Quintasan> Look, I have one directory indexed there
[21:51] <Quintasan> http://i.imgur.com/GhyeE.png
[21:51] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: you haven't looked at anything what nepomuk can do till now :P
[21:51] <Quintasan> just one
[21:51] <Quintasan> but nope, it still says it's indexing the contents
[21:52] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d41bmTSogA4&feature=player_embedded
[21:53] <shadeslayer> Nepomuk isn't all about data indexing/searching
[21:53] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: you're coming to DS right?
[21:54] <Quintasan> No idea ATM
[21:54] <Quintasan> wow cool, look nice but what's this? file searching doesnt work?
[21:54] <Quintasan> That's the basic functionality, isnt it?
[21:54] <shadeslayer> nope
[21:54] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: its searching inside videos
[21:55] <yofel> I get the feeling kmail needs to wait 1 minute / 1000 mails on mysqld to show me the folder contents
[21:55] <shadeslayer> but what its actually doing is interpolating subtitle files that were added to the indexing
[21:55] <shadeslayer> and when it does not find a subtitle file it scraps a list of website for subtitle files
[21:55] <Quintasan> I am not interested in that whilst File searching is not working as expected
[21:56] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: i played with this app for an entire 2 days at conf.kde.in xD
[21:56] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: nepomuk is not about file searching
[21:56] <Quintasan> Then let me tell you one thing
[21:56] <Quintasan> We don't have a search utility that works like a normal search utility
[21:57] <Quintasan> inb4 find
[21:57] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: https://desktopsummit.org/program/sessions/think-semantically-nepomuk-and-social-semantic-desktop << attend this in case you come to DS
[21:58] <Quintasan> Cool stuff, but make it work instead of eating my resources
[21:58]  * Quintasan is in grumble mode
[21:58] <Quintasan> look, if I enter D&D into search
[21:58] <shadeslayer> heh, that i agree with
[21:58] <shadeslayer> takes up too many resources
[21:58] <Quintasan> why does Baccano light novel full text showing up in the results?
[21:59] <Quintasan> the only connection between those two is that they are under Documents/
[21:59] <shadeslayer> well .. it probably had some relation to D&D
[21:59] <shadeslayer> maybe you opened them on the same day, one after the another or sth
[21:59] <shadeslayer> same rating
[21:59] <Quintasan> Let me show it to you
[21:59] <shadeslayer> could be anything
[22:00] <Quintasan> I didnt do any tagging at all
[22:00] <Quintasan> IDC about that because it doesnt work in a proper fashion for me
[22:00] <Quintasan> Baccano <----------------distance of relevance between those two --------------------------------------> D&D
[22:01] <Quintasan> - == 1km in real life
[22:01] <Quintasan> :P
[22:01] <shadeslayer> heh
[22:02] <shadeslayer> *shrug*
[22:02] <Quintasan> *shrug*
[22:02] <shadeslayer> ok kde Bug 275854  reported
[22:02] <Quintasan> Best description for my attitude towards Nepomuk and Co ATM
[22:03] <shadeslayer> heh :D
[22:03] <shadeslayer> imap hogging up my entire bandwidth :(
[22:03]  * debfx would already be happy if dolphin supported proper file searching without indexing
[22:03] <debfx> like filter filename and content at the same time
[22:04] <debfx> that would be so much easier to implement and so much more useful than all the semantic desktop blah
[22:04] <Quintasan> Exactly.
[22:05] <JontheEchidna> alt + f2, kfind
[22:05] <JontheEchidna> :P
[22:06] <shadeslayer> ^^^ :P
[22:06] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: http://i.imgur.com/3QhC0.png
[22:06] <Quintasan> http://i.imgur.com/iXMwn.png
[22:06] <Quintasan> That's what you call working?
[22:06] <shadeslayer> i don't see what the issue is
[22:06] <shadeslayer> the files all contain Detroit 
[22:06] <Quintasan> Detroid - oh lawd awesome, all episodes
[22:07] <debfx> JontheEchidna: + copy'n'paste the path from dolphin
[22:07] <Quintasan> I want to look for the Ep 02 directly
[22:07] <debfx> *very* user friendly
[22:07] <Quintasan> LOL NO U CAN'T
[22:07] <JontheEchidna> crtl + f used to launch it in dolphin
[22:07] <Quintasan> I IZ NOT SUPPORTING THAT
[22:07] <JontheEchidna> but that went away when the nepomuk search was put it
[22:07] <JontheEchidna> *in
[22:07] <shadeslayer> Adding Ep 02 doesn't work?
[22:07] <Quintasan> http://i.imgur.com/HgYff.png
[22:07] <Quintasan> sup
[22:08]  * shadeslayer wonders why he just ssh'd into his own machine
[22:08] <Quintasan> it doesnt even work with full name
[22:08] <shadeslayer> 0.o
[22:09]  * Quintasan takes a few deep breaths
[22:09] <Quintasan> Okay it sucks, I can somehow live without it thanks to keeping stuff organised
[22:09] <shadeslayer> lol
[22:10]  * Quintasan wishes ppl stopped making new,useless stuff and improve the BASIC functionality
[22:10] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: coming to the desktop summit by any chance?
[22:10] <JontheEchidna> nop
[22:10] <shadeslayer> fooey
[22:11] <Quintasan> IT'S IN AUGUST?
[22:11] <Quintasan> lol k
[22:11] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: I will be there most likely
[22:11] <shadeslayer> yep
[22:11] <shadeslayer> great! :D
[22:11] <Quintasan> Are there any sponsorship stuff or I'm on my own there?
[22:12] <shadeslayer> iirc they closed sponsorship , might be worth sending a email to claudia / KDE e.V. 
[22:13] <Quintasan> oh well
[22:13] <Quintasan> whateverf
[22:13] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Did you book your room already?
[22:13] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: yeah, i got a room in the hostel
[22:14] <shadeslayer> along with other KDE Participants and gnomies :P
[22:14]  * Quintasan gotta look at his calendar and stuff
[22:15] <shadeslayer> ooooh .. its in 2010 now \o/
[22:17] <Quintasan> I'll make up my mind regarding DS next week
[22:18] <shadeslayer> ok :)
[22:23] <shadeslayer> heh ... just noticed this : http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/16/indias-oft-delayed-35-tablet-ready-to-ship-unicorns-shed-tear/
[22:43] <shadeslayer> yofel:  Quintasan i think we should mention that it would be a good idea to take a backup of PIM Data before upgrading
[22:43] <shadeslayer> apart from that, everything else seems fine
[22:50] <shadeslayer> night guys
[22:52] <Quintasan> nn
[22:52]  * Quintasan goes to bed too
[23:15] <valorie> unicorns shed tears of joy!
[23:15] <valorie> love it