=== Y0Y0 is now known as yoyo === chalcedny is now known as chalcedony === nosrepa is now known as aperson [00:53] !netsplit [00:53] netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit [00:55] BATi: ready? :) [00:58] * uberfrau shakes BATi [00:58] ;D [01:03] uberfrau: here... fallen asleep [01:03] uberfrau: 2 AM here :) so, any luck? [01:03] BATi: i just put my computer together on the floor :) [01:05] BATi: `sudo tail -f /var/log/messages' doesn't show the product info >.< [01:05] uberfrau: oh, okay so let's continue... [01:06] ^_^ [01:06] uberfrau: in which stage you are? already compiled module? [01:06] lolno [01:06] you're overestimating my knowledge by a couple of orders of magnitude [01:08] uberfrau: oh, i see :) lsusb with wireless stick plugged in should give similiar result... [01:08] oh, i did that before, but did not record the results, will do again, sec [01:09] BATi: Bus 002 Device 002: ID 13b1:002f Linksys AE1000 v1 802.11n [Ralink RT2870] [01:11] uberfrau: great - same vendor and product id as in howto (13b1:002f) [01:11] BATi: mhmm [01:12] uberfrau: lets check if the module is not present already - "ifconfig ra0" [01:12] BATi: ra0: error fetching interface information: Device not found [01:14] uberfrau: right... so let's download driver sources - "?t=U0wyRnpjMlYwY3k4eU1ERXdMekV5THpNeEwyUnZkMjVzYjJGa05qVTFOREF6TURNME55NWllakk5UFQweU1ERXdYekV5TVRWZlVsUXpOVGN5WDB4cGJuVjRYMU5VUVY5Mk1pNDFMakF1TUM1RVVFOD1D'" [01:14] eh [01:15] uberfrau: wget -O ~/Download/RT3572_Linux_STA_v2.5.0.0.DPO.bz2 'http://www.ralinktech.com/download.php?t=U0wyRnpjMlYwY3k4eU1ERXdMekV5THpNeEwyUnZkMjVzYjJGa05qVTFOREF6TURNME55NWllakk5UFQweU1ERXdYekV5TVRWZlVsUXpOVGN5WDB4cGJuVjRYMU5VUVY5Mk1pNDFMakF1TUM1RVVFOD1D' [01:15] BATi: i already downloaded "Ralink_RT3572USB_drv2400.zip" earlier [01:15] should i do that command, or is what I downloaded okay? [01:15] uberfrau: you need THIS one... trust me... [01:15] okay [01:18] uberfrau: after it downloads, unpack it and enter directory - "tar -C ~/Download/ -xf ~/Download/RT3572_Linux_STA_v2.5.0.0.DPO.bz2" "cd ~/Download/2010_1215_RT3572_Linux_STA_v2.5.0.0.DPO/" [01:19] BATi: i entered the above above and it returned: /home/sophia/Download/RT3572_Linux_STA_v2.5.0.0.DPO.bz2: No such file or directory [01:20] uberfrau: did you execute "wget" commandline? [01:20] sophia@sophia-EP45-UD3R:~/Downloads$ wget -O ~/Download/RT3572_Linux_STA_v2.5.0.0.DPO.bz2 'http://www.ralinktech.com/download.php?t=U0wyRnpjMlYwY3k4eU1ERXdMekV5THpNeEwyUnZkMjVzYjJGa05qVTFOREF6TURNME55NWllakk5UFQweU1ERXdYekV5TVRWZlVsUXpOVGN5WDB4cGJuVjRYMU5VUVY5Mk1pNDFMakF1TUM1RVVFOD1D' [01:21] should i be doing it in home instead? >_> [01:21] i was already in Downloads because of the one driver file i downloaded [01:22] uberfrau: well it should not matter, but directory /home/sophia/Download (notice missing "s") should exist, or change it in wget commandline [01:23] o.O [01:23] add an s then, k, sec [01:24] BATi: okay, now.. unpacking_it == extraction with Ark? [01:25] uberfrau: better stay in commandline - "cd ~/Downloads" "tar -xf RT3572_Linux_STA_v2.5.0.0.DPO.bz2" [01:26] err [01:26] it does a readline prompt [01:26] oh [01:26] you meant to quote them to separate them as commands [01:27] uberfrau: I mean first cd into Downloads, then unpack with tar -xf .... [01:27] yes [01:27] but [01:28] tar: This does not look like a tar archive; bzip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file.;tar: Child returned status 2;tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now [01:30] uberfrau: uh... found the problem - ratech moved the file somewhere elsewhere, so what you have is file with "ERROR: File not found." in it :) lemme find the right URL... [01:30] BATi: okay, thank you. sorry i'm so incompetent at linux stuff, i won't be soon, taking an intro to UNIX class starting in 5 days >_> [01:32] uberfrau: no problem... this one was my mistake, not checking file beforehand... [01:35] uberfrau: okay... URL is http://www.ralinktech.com/license_us.php?n=2&p=0&t=U0wyRnpjMlYwY3k4eU1ERXhMekEwTHpJM0wyUnZkMjVzYjJGa056RXhOamcyTXpRMk9DNWllakk5UFQweU1ERXhYekEwTWpkZlVsUXpOVGN5WDB4cGJuVjRYMU5VUVY5Mk1pNDFMakF1TUM1RVVFOD1D ... you need to download it manually into your "Downloads" folder 'cause ralinktech added a licence acceptance... [01:37] k, downloading [01:37] internet speeds here are not impressive lol, 80 kbps download [01:37] i'll have to download some music so i'm not streaming it [01:39] i immediately tried the same tar command as above but it returned the same error message [01:40] uberfrau: :))) nevermind... after it downloads, back to commandline, cd into Downloads na better verify if file is there by "ls -la"... you should have file 2011_0427_RT3572_Linux_STA_v2.5.0.0.DPO.bz2 there [01:40] na = and [01:41] 2011_0427_RT3572_Linux_STA_v2.5.0.0 yesh [01:41] uberfrau: hoooray! :) so "tar -xf 2011_0427_RT3572_Linux_STA_v2.5.0.0.DPO.bz2" [01:42] uberfrau: "cd 2011_0427_RT3572_Linux_STA_v2.5.0.0.DPO" [01:43] BATi: okay, now what, i'm in that directory [01:43] uberfrau: now the real work begins :) "sed -ir -e 's/^HAS_WPA_SUPPLICANT=n/HAS_WPA_SUPPLICANT=y/' -e 's/^HAS_NATIVE_WPA_SUPPLICANT_SUPPORT=n/HAS_NATIVE_WPA_SUPPLICANT_SUPPORT=y/' ./os/linux/config.mk" [01:44] i pasted that in and hit enter, no return message for me? ;o [01:45] uberfrau: nope, sed did the work, sed gets return message :))) [01:45] uberfrau: "sed -ir -e 's!^#endif // RT2870 //! {USB_DEVICE(0x13B1,0x002F)}, /* Linksys AE 1000 */\n#endif // RT2870 //!' ./common/rtusb_dev_id.c" [01:46] btw, in cmdline strings, do trailing spaces or spaces in between commands matter? [01:46] no [01:46] cool === ubott2 is now known as ubottu [01:47] lol BATi, still at it i see [01:47] Magnusson_: are you from like Norway? [01:47] uberfrau: we are gonna mess with function names: "sed -ir -e 's/\tusb_buffer_alloc/\tusb_alloc_coherent/' -e 's/\tusb_buffer_free/\tusb_free_coherent/' include/os/rt_linux.h" [01:47] uberfrau>lol i wish, i get that question an average of once every 5 mins :) [01:48] Magnusson_: oh yeah... almost 3AM here and still alive... well, half alive :) [01:48] Magnusson_: it's a very Norwegian name... [01:48] or NW Germany [01:48] but definitely more Scandinavian [01:48] uberfrau>yep so i was informed years ago after i'd created it hah [01:49] yep yep, i usually get asked if i'm from sweden [01:49] years O_O [01:49] no, Swedes have even stranger names ;D [01:49] so BATi, anything else? ;d [01:49] "son" rather points to Sweden; Danish and Norwegian names are more likely to end in "sen" [01:49] szal: good point [01:49] but "Magnus" is very Norwegian to my ears [01:50] uberfrau: sure - "make && sudo make install", if you pasted all sed cmdlines I sent ya :) [01:51] BATi: i prefer that, it gives me output ;) [01:52] uberfrau: well, that is sed - all quiet until sh*t happens :))) [01:52] okay, the make cmd is complete... [01:53] uberfrau: even the "sudo make install" part? no errors? [01:54] BATi: i didn't see any errors, would it be at the end of output? [01:55] uberfrau: yep... let's do a quick check - "ls -la /etc/Wireless/RT2870STA/" [01:56] i assume the radioactive green thing is what we want: RT2870STA.dat [01:57] uberfrau: yeah... :) let's make sure everything works after reboot - "sudo su -c "echo -e 'alias ra0 rt3572sta\nblacklist rt2800usb' > /etc/modprobe.d/rt3572sta.conf"" [01:58] BATi: it gave no return value [01:59] uberfrau: good... now check output of "lsmod", if it contains any names like rt2870sta, rt2800usb, rt2860sta, rt2x00usb, rt2x00lib, rt2870sta === roger_ is now known as BitOperator [02:01] sudo lsmod | grep -i rt2 [02:01] BATi: http://www.pastie.org/private/zzclgpculp0pvt1qldrrfa [02:02] szal: that cmd returned nothing [02:02] uberfrau: iow, no such modules loaded [02:03] uberfrau: okay... so try to load the module you've built - "sudo modprobe ra0" [02:03] k, sec [02:04] k, now? [02:04] it gave no return value or anything, also [02:04] uberfrau: I hope you did have the usb stick plugged in during all that messing with lsmod, did you? [02:04] BATi: it's been plugged in the whole time o.o [02:05] uberfrau: that's ok, now we can try "ifconfig ra0" again [02:05] device not found -___- [02:06] uberfrau: ok.. "sudo lsmod | grep -i rt2" [02:06] i hope it's okay that i have it plugged into a USB on the front of my comp, i don't think it matters though, as the lsmod cmds and such show all USB slots [02:06] sure, sec [02:06] no return value [02:07] uberfrau: ok.. "sudo lsmod | grep -i ra" [02:08] snd_rawmidi 22207 1 snd_seq_midi [02:08] snd_seq_device 6912 3 snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq [02:08] snd 64181 11 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device [02:08] should have stuck that in pastie, sorry [02:08] uberfrau: right... try to unplug the stick and plug it back in... [02:09] BATi: and? [02:10] it gave the same return value [02:10] ;s [02:10] uberfrau: and check lsmod again... [02:10] for a 'ra' item? [02:11] uberfrau: ra and rt2 [02:11] ra returns the same as before, rt2 returns nothing [02:11] did i do something wrong? maybe the usb was too loose? D: [02:12] uberfrau: well, check output of dmesg if kernel sees the stick [02:14] http://www.pastie.org/private/zzclgpculp0pvt1qldrrfa [02:14] hopefully that is the relevant part of the message [02:16] uberfrau: ok... now check /var/log/kern.log [02:17] just input that? [02:17] because when i did...'permission denied' >.> [02:18] test [02:18] uberfrau: eh... better with "less /var/log/kern.log" and after it loads, press "shift+g" to go to end of that file.... or use "tail /var/log/kern.log" [02:19] BATi: the End key will do for that [02:19] and i'm looking for? >.< [02:21] uberfrau: anything which contain ra0, ralinktech or rt3xxxx [02:22] szal: jeebus, nitpicker :) [02:25] http://www.pastie.org/private/zzclgpculp0pvt1qldrrfa bash errors? o.o [02:28] uberfrau: eh, you've pasted part of that log into shell :) [02:28] uberfrau: tail should be safer [02:28] BATi: o.o? [02:29] unexpected token: \n [02:29] why would it care if it strips spaces and stuff, it doesn't strip \n? [02:30] uberfrau: because for some reason you are trying to interpret a line from logfile in shell, which is generally not a good idea :) [02:30] BATi: i don't understand what error i made ;s [02:31] uberfrau: nevermind... close konsole and open a new one... [02:31] k :X [02:33] uberfrau: in clean new console do "tail /var/log/kern.log" [02:34] and? >.> [02:34] Jun 15 18:03:55 sophia-EP45-UD3R kernel: [ 4256.533354] rtusb init rt2870 ---> [02:36] uberfrau: hmm and lsmod still does not mention anything about rt2870? [02:37] BATi: no D: [02:37] * BATi is stumped... and using only half of brain doesn't help it... [02:39] uberfrau: type "ls -la /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/", does it mention rt3572sta.ko? [02:40] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1034411 2011-06-15 17:52 rt3572sta.ko [02:41] uberfrau: ok... "cat /etc/modprobe.d/rt3572sta.conf", does it have a line with alias and blacklist? [02:41] BATi: yesh [02:42] uberfrau: I mean two lines, one with alias other with blacklist... [02:43] BATi: i know, and yes [02:46] o______o [02:46] uberfrau: right... can you add lines with blacklist for rt2870sta, rt2800usb, rt2860sta, rt2x00usb and rt2x00lib? [02:46] what, put "blacklist rtXXXXxxx" for each of them? [02:47] uberfrau: yep [02:47] blacklist is not a cmd, so i hope that isn't what you mean ;x [02:48] uberfrau: that .conf file is a config file for command "modprobe", which accepts blacklist as it's internal command... [02:49] o_o [02:49] * uberfrau is just getting confused, so 'blacklist rtXXXXxxx' is *not* what i'm supposed to enter? [02:51] * uberfrau swears she isn't trolling :S [02:52] uberfrau: okay this will be better "sudo su -c "echo -e 'alias ra0 rt3572sta\nblacklist rt2800usb\nblacklist rt2870sta\nblacklist rt2800usb\nblacklist rt2860sta\nblacklist rt2x00usb\nblacklist rt2x00lib' > /etc/modprobe.d/rt3572sta.conf"" [02:53] okay, now? [02:54] uberfrau: moment, checking something... [02:55] sure :o [03:00] hmmm [03:01] uberfrau: just for a test, try "sudo modprobe rt3572sta" [03:01] BATi: no return value [03:02] uberfrau: and something changed in lsmod? like line with rt3572sta appeared? [03:03] BATi: no such line appeared when i just tried lsmod === maco2 is now known as maco [03:07] uberfrau: well... can you try to reboot, just for sake of completness? [03:08] BATi: i can, should i check to see if it works without a reboot first? ;D [03:10] uberfrau: well it obviously does not work :) and a quick check with "sudo ifconfig ra0 up" should prove it :) [03:17] BATi: nope D: [03:19] uberfrau: not even "sudo ifconfig ra0 up"? [03:19] ra0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device [03:19] what did i do wrong? :( [03:21] uberfrau: well, in fact you did everything perfect - which can be proven by existence of rt3572.ko and the .dat files... [03:21] so what now? :s [03:22] uberfrau: okay, try "sudo depmod -a" and then "sudo modprobe ra0" [03:23] was the 2nd cmd supposed to return something? :x [03:23] uberfrau: nope [03:23] oh, okay then :) [03:23] now what? [03:24] uberfrau: "ifconfig ra0" :) [03:24] device not found :x [03:26] uberfrau: "cd /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/" and then "sudo /sbin/insmod rt3572sta.ko" [03:26] BATi: insmod: error inserting 'rt3572sta.ko': -1 File exists [03:27] aha! [03:27] uberfrau: "lsmod" check, please :) [03:28] BATi: i'm not seeing anything new >.< [03:29] WAIT [03:29] BATi: rt3572sta 644684 0 [03:29] o_o? [03:30] uberfrau: and "ifconfig ra0"? [03:30] ra0: error fetching interface information: Device not found [03:30] :| [03:30] AAAAAAAAARGH [03:32] what can we do to troubleshoot? >.> [03:33] BATi: do you have Teamviewer? [03:33] may be quicker if you want to mess around x.x [03:33] uberfrau: nope, no teamviewer here... [03:34] x.x [03:34] so troubleshooting? >.< [03:35] uberfrau: downloading teamviewer... [03:35] BATi: me too o.o [03:35] i just figure it would be way faster [03:35] uberfrau: certainly :) [03:36] i'm at 15percent [03:36] internet is slowwww [03:36] uberfrau: heh, you should be on my side - CDMA connection only... [03:37] going to kitchen, may be a while ;x [03:38] uberfrau: installed... [03:43] i'm only at 66% BATi [03:44] uberfrau: ok, poke me when ready :) [03:54] BATi: okay, they gave wine, WINE updated, and the download is complete [03:54] :) [03:55] uberfrau: and your id is? === Keshl_ is now known as Keshl [04:56] * KhanFused is live-CD testing kubuntu 11.04 pending blowing away v9.10 ... the 'additional drivers' control in v11 says 'no proprietary drivers in use' -- when every version before has detected an NVidia graphics card... has an open-source driver been merged into (k)ubuntu v11.04? [04:57] I think a graphics card issue was why the 10.10 live CDs would freeze on my after a few minutes of use [05:06] uberfrau: so? does it work? [05:06] BATi: i'm retarded and can't get it to work :| [05:07] uberfrau: what is the problem? system cannot find wireless again? [05:07] BATi: it sees the network, but i simply can't get it to work [05:07] i've never done wireless stuff in Linux before, can you try it? :\ [05:07] uberfrau: sure [05:08] where do i find official help channel [05:09] Andreas_: For what? [05:10] general help --more specific with my network [05:10] http://askubuntu.com/questions/38327/broadcom-bcm4311-wireless-not-working [05:10] Andreas_: For Windows? [05:10] ubuntu [05:11] Andreas_: You want #ubuntu [05:17] I'm still upset that Vancouver lost [05:38] ok, time for bed, good night [05:39] loving the KDE life [05:56] okay guys, BATi helped me get my driver installed, can someone else help me get the connection to work? :3 [06:06] hello,everybody.could I reinstal ubuntuand keep my home directory?I lost the sound and I thought the simplest method would be to reinstal ubuntu [06:14] anyone? >.< [06:22] hello,everybody.could I reinstal ubuntuand keep my home directory?I lost the sound and I thought the simplest method would be to reinstal ubuntu [06:23] did u reformat ur whole drive? [06:24] and lost sound? [06:25] but the answer is no [06:25] u can install a doul boot and run ur other partition to retrieve ur stuff [06:30] My HDD was full and the I lost sound.I deleted some stuff,but the sound did not come back [06:30] then* [06:31] that don't make sence [06:31] were u playn with other things? [06:32] no,not at all [06:32] full hdd don't= dead sound [06:32] hmm [06:32] but some error mesages appeared on the screen [06:32] oh? [06:32] what does it read? [06:33] ok,so you are saying the two things have nothing to do with each other [06:33] ok [06:33] usually no [06:33] thanks [06:33] full hdd's don 't make failures in operations [06:34] just in operations of hdd needed apps [06:35] then,what could I check to make the sound come back? [07:30] morning [07:33] wireless help? :) [07:38] normaly in konsole or everywhere you can select a text, single klick and then with left/right klick paste the selected text anywhere.. but on my kubuntu this won't work.. any idea to enable it? [07:38] uberfrau: wlan help.. aks so we see if we canhelp :) [07:40] noaXess: just trying to get wireless connection to work, BATi helped me install driver for my wireless network adapter (Linksys AE1000), but idk how to make it work from here :/ [07:40] ubso the wlan card works but no connection? [07:44] DarkwingDuck: Greetings... [07:50] noaXess: i don't know how to connect to the network :| [07:51] uberfrau: you work on kubuntu, right? what about trying with networkmanager applet? [07:52] noaXess: that's what i've been doing, but it's somewhat complicated by the fact that i cannot see the whole applet because my monitor is defective and part of the screen is non-visible [07:57] uberfrau: aha... more problem than only wlan ;) [07:57] noaXess: my problem is at the 'waiting for authorization' stage [07:59] uberfrau: i normally use wicd app for wlan... you can install it and need to remove this packages: network-manager [07:59] http://i.imgur.com/IihXc.png [07:59] uberfrau: i do it always like this: sudo apt-get purge network-manager and after that if all is done > sudo apt-get install wicd [07:59] noaXess: o_O? elaborate please [08:00] uberfrau: your wlan accesspoint uses WEP? [08:00] uberfrau: I like your backgrounds in that screenshot. [08:00] noaXess: idk, how do i check [08:00] so wait with my info about wicd [08:00] LINKSWORD2: thanks [08:01] uberfrau: see the screenshot [08:01] How did you get it like that? [08:01] o_O like what [08:01] i just downloaded it, it's a really good screenshot [08:01] not sure where it's from, but if i didn't rename it i can give the name to you so you can look for it [08:02] Yeah, sure. [08:02] Or you could upload it and I can download it... Of course, when you have time. [08:03] neaXess: my roomies would have no idea what WEP or any of these acronyms are, so idk [08:03] uber check your wlan settings.. i see on your screenshot that security is WEP... check your accesspoint settings [08:03] with what cmd? [08:03] uberfrau: directly on the access point... [08:03] uberfrau: it's your acess point? [08:03] noaXess: do you mean the physical modem? [08:04] uberfrau: maybe.. if this is also used for wlan [08:04] * uberfrau has no idea [08:04] wlan == wireless? >_> [08:04] uberfrau: you have to check the "what ever" modem/router where the wlan is configured... [08:05] uberfrau: yes.. wlan = wireless lan [08:05] i see [08:05] what should i be looking for? :) [08:06] uberfrau: how are you connected now? [08:07] over cable/lan? [08:09] i'm like 2 feet from the modem, yes [08:09] so cable [08:09] trying to get wireless adapter to work so i can move machine into my room, instead of middle of living room on the floor [08:10] uberfrau: go into konsole and enter this command: route [08:10] and then press enter.. [08:10] screenshot please ;) [08:13] noaXess: here, faster than SS: http://www.pastie.org/private/odaxsumtdhg6pvkq3owog [08:13] uberfrau: ok your router is 192.168.0.1.. now try to connect to that IP over your browser/firefox.. [08:13] uberfrau: what brand is your router? [08:14] noaXess, sec [08:16] noaXess: motorola, and idk how to connect to that address through firefox o_O like what do you mean? [08:16] just copy+paste it in to the address bar? [08:16] uberfrau: http://192.168.0.1 [08:16] yes [08:16] or klick ^ [08:17] it has Qwest modem setup page [08:17] wat do [08:17] uberfrau: puh... hm... don't need a password? [08:18] nope, just took me to modem configuration page with some icons [08:18] xD [08:18] uberfrau: so search anything about wlan/wireless or like that [08:21] noaXess: wow, i have access to change the key and stuff, i better tell them not to let anyone they don't trust use a laptop here -_- [08:21] lol Macusers [08:23] Hehe... [08:23] noaXess: i think i'm connected now; how do i check to make sure without disconnecting my wired connection? [08:24] uberfrau: hm... what settings now? screenshot of your kubuntu wlan settings [08:24] noaXess: do route again, or what? :\ [08:25] or do you just want 'network connections' open [08:25] uberfrau: jep [08:25] the latter? -_- [08:25] jep [08:26] if it says 'wlan interface' in the top left corner, does that mean i'm connected wirelessly? [08:27] uber not really [08:27] uberfrau: to test.. just unplug your lan cable :)... [08:27] lol... [08:27] fine, sec [08:27] if wlan is connected you chouls see something like a wlan symbol in systray.. near your clock [08:28] should ^ [08:38] problem fixed [08:39] except for the uberfrau1 part D: [08:46] has Kubuntu stopped shipping a netbook edition? [08:53] \s, [09:00] Привет [09:01] Нужен хелп. никак не хочет подключаться к скрытому ssid kubuntu 11.04 [09:02] переход на wicd не помогает [09:03] !ru [09:03] Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke [09:05] #ubuntu [09:14] does kubuntu use the ubuntu fonts by default on a clean installation? === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [09:28] Hmm.... I may need help.... [09:29] DarkwingDuck: I don't suppose you're awake... [09:48] hi everyone!! [09:48] i need some help, could you please help me? [09:48] DEPENDS [09:49] the thing is that i'm using kubuntu and ubuntu on my laptop (acer aspire 4740g) and not so long ago i found out that it kills my hdd... [09:49] the thing is that if i don't touch any hdparm -B param - the temperature rizes till 60 celsium... [09:50] if i set hdparm -B 252 or lower - the load cycle grows like hell [09:50] in 2 minutes on 40 points [09:50] is there any way not to kill my hdd and not to overheat it? [09:56] Shut down the computer when you're not using it. [09:56] :P [09:57] damn you are guru of iT :) [09:58] but u know it's not that funny...my previous laptop burned to hell )) i don't wanna get the same thing with this one [09:59] artlaber: if you use laptop just at home, maybe one of those cooling fan platforms? :3 [10:02] Well, I'm signing off and shutting down for the night. [10:02] Later! [10:04] artlaber, Does the cooling fan kick on? === mohamed is now known as mamo [10:04] salut a tous [10:05] sure it does... i've got bios that can't disable the fan and no software controll available... the notebook is fresh only 2 month old [10:05] je cherche d'executer un script a la fermeture d'une session [10:07] mamo, #ubuntu-fr [10:07] wildgoose: does that chan have many users? :P [10:08] uberfrau, ~200, not too bad [10:08] i see ^_^ [10:08] i was expecting like [10:08] 11 ;D [10:09] me too, so I checked before I sent mamo [10:09] ^_^ [10:10] so, are IRC people super nice, or is it just linux IRC people o.O [10:17] anybody... please :)... what is the normal value of hdd temperature in working state on laptop in Summer? what are optimal borders of load cycle change per day? thanks in advance [10:22] Hi to all!!Can I change between diferent desktop in kubuntu natty as I do in ubuntu natty?How can I do this? [10:24] artlaber: dunno about laptops in the summer, but my desktop hdds are usually somewhere between 35-48 deg celsius or so === mohamed is now known as mamo === mamo is now known as mohamed === off__ is now known as off [12:32] Hello. What is the "kde-native" application (or applet) to manage ( wireless) connections on KDE? Is it the network-manager-kde package in Ubuntu? [12:35] network manager is "kde-native" :) it's fully integrated [12:42] je cherche de lancer un script a la fermeture d'une session, Merci [12:42] je cherche de lancer un script a la fermeture d'une session, Merci [12:46] Thank you, PiotrN. Is it installed by default? Or in what package is it included? I installed Ubuntu first, then did a apt-get install kde-plasma-desktop to install just the bare minimum. [12:46] !fr | mohamed [12:46] mohamed: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci. [12:47] iolo: i'm not sure if it would be installed like that, but you can add it, just make sure to add related comonents (like plasma widgets ect) === armin_ is now known as ||apriori|| [12:55] je cherche de lancer un script a la fermeture d'une session, Merci [12:56] je cherche de lancer un script a la fermeture d'une session, Merci [12:59] mohamed: -> #ubuntu-fr [12:59] for the 2nd time [12:59] and don't repeat yourself [14:22]