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| Twizz2 | is there anything about grub (installed Ubuntu 8.01 server) that would prevent me from booting form a thumbstick or cd? | 00:59 |
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| Twizz2 | I'm trying to install 11.04 | 01:00 |
| holstein | hey Twizz2 | 01:00 |
| pleia2 | booting from a usb stick is something that's handled by the bios before grub loads | 01:00 |
| pleia2 | so it wouldn't be grub that's preventing it | 01:00 |
| Twizz2 | hey holstein | 01:03 |
| holstein | you installed ubuntu server 8.04? | 01:03 |
| holstein | when? | 01:03 |
| Twizz2 | on the order of years ago 2 maybe | 01:03 |
| holstein | AH, ok... anyways... whats the deal? | 01:03 |
| Twizz2 | i never got it installed or working correctly and i move to an island for work for a year after installing ... so i just kind of left it | 01:03 |
| holstein | OK | 01:03 |
| Twizz2 | I've got 11.04 on a thunmstick and I'm trying to get it to install, and its not booting from the stick | 01:03 |
| holstein | is your machine able to boot USB sticks? | 01:03 |
| holstein | can you burn a CD? | 01:03 |
| Twizz2 | i think so, but i don't see a setting for it in the bios, i can yes | 01:03 |
| holstein | well, dont think | 01:03 |
| Twizz2 | but currently it won't even boot a windows install cd | 01:03 |
| holstein | it either does or it doesnt, and you can waste a lot of time | 01:03 |
| Twizz2 | I'll assume no since its not in the bios as an option | 01:03 |
| Twizz2 | the computer was new in 2001 | 01:03 |
| holstein | yeah, i would unplug the hard drive so you dont ruin it accientally, then play around til you get a CD booting | 01:04 |
| Twizz2 | alright I'll try burning a cd and see where that gets me | 01:04 |
| holstein | Twizz2: doesnt really matter when, some do USB boot, and some dont, but it wont magically do it, you'll have to sort it out in the bios, and ubuntu/linux can really help with that | 01:04 |
| holstein | Twizz2: for troubleshooting purposes, you can use *any* CD... that windows disc, whatever | 01:05 |
| holstein | you just want to see something boot | 01:05 |
| holstein | however, i would suggest making an ubuntu 10.04 live CD for this and other testing purposes | 01:05 |
| holstein | http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/ubuntu-10.04.2-desktop-i386.iso | 01:06 |
| Twizz2 | right i'm aware of all that, i just didn't know if grub could be blocking it. I know how the bios works, and there isn't an option for botting thumb sticks ... since grub probably isn't blocking it, thats really what i was looking for ... at least until i'm able to get something booting from disk or whatever | 01:07 |
| Twizz2 | I'll probably be around for a few days and if i run into another snag I'll ask, thank you for your help | 01:08 |
| holstein | well, theres no 'probably', grub is not in the loop yet, so it *cant* | 01:08 |
| holstein | sure, let us know :) | 01:08 |
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| holstein | trouble shooting old and unfamiliar hardware can be challenging... much better if its not your main machine that broken | 01:09 |
| Twizz2 | it boots to a grub menu currently, which is why i was curious if that was kickstarting before the cd/thumbstick boot, but its set to boot from HD's last so it *shouldn't* be causing it | 01:10 |
| Twizz2 | its not, i've got 6 machines here | 01:10 |
| holstein | nah... BUT, just unplug that drive, and you wont see that | 01:10 |
| holstein | it'll be in the bios... somthing about boot order or boot sequence, and you'll see the hard drive is before the optical drive | 01:11 |
| holstein | *more than likely* i should say... | 01:11 |
| Twizz2 | right now i have it configured to boot 1 legacy floppy drives 2 atapi cd rom drive 3 bootable cards (not sure what that is and i've tried moving it first and last no change) 4 HD1 5 HD2 | 01:13 |
| holstein | yeah, and bioses are quite different, so i have no frame of referece to offer you much assistance | 01:13 |
| Twizz2 | based on that i assume that there is no support for the thumb disk | 01:13 |
| Twizz2 | can i make a live cd from 11.04? since i already have it? | 01:14 |
| holstein | Twizz2: sure, i suggest 10.04 becuase its the LTS - long term support, but 11.04 will work great :) | 01:15 |
| Twizz2 | it appears to be booting from the disk | 01:34 |
| holstein | w00t Twizz2 :) thats good news.. | 01:35 |
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| Twizz2 | i don't know what its doing and it looked a little strange, but now i have a redish/purple screend with the word ubuntu and some red dot progress bar | 01:36 |
| holstein | Twizz2: at some point, you'll just have to tell it what to do :) | 01:36 |
| Twizz2 | before that i had an underlined + sign and an upside down U in the upper left corner on a blue background and the rest of the screen was black .... and it let me type jibberish in the black ... then it moved on | 01:37 |
| Twizz2 | now i think i'm just waiting on it to load | 01:37 |
| Twizz2 | which on this old pc may take longer than burnign the disk did | 01:37 |
| Twizz2 | do i need to do anything to get it to detect my internet connection? eth 0 (wired) | 02:02 |
| holstein | Twizz2: that depends | 02:02 |
| holstein | usually, lan cards are well supported | 02:03 |
| holstein | i would just plug it in and see, and if not, we can look around | 02:03 |
| Twizz2 | the installer says i'm not connected was the only reason i'm asking | 02:03 |
| Twizz2 | its plugged in | 02:03 |
| holstein | Twizz2: you should run it live first | 02:04 |
| holstein | i mean, go ahead and install now, but thats a great way to tell how well hte hardware is supported before you install | 02:04 |
| Twizz2 | i was only 1 step in, i went back to "try it" | 02:05 |
| Twizz2 | sorry, i'm a little under the weather today too ... I'm not opperating at full capacity | 02:06 |
| holstein | Twizz2: no worries... hope you feel better soon | 02:06 |
| runamuck | moin | 02:36 |
| runamuck | I have a problem with a python program I compiled. I can't find anything wrong with it. I have ubuntu 11.04 | 02:36 |
| holstein | runamuck: you have any output?... its not something thats in the repos? | 02:36 |
| runamuck | when the program tries to run I get several of these messages from what looks like the menu system: libglade-WARNING **: could not look up stock id | 02:37 |
| runamuck | not in repos no | 02:37 |
| runamuck | but libglade2.0 is installed | 02:37 |
| runamuck | and of course none of the menus work in the app | 02:38 |
| runamuck | ;) | 02:38 |
| runamuck | anyone see something like that? | 02:39 |
| runamuck | i found this in google and it scares me though https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptitude/+bug/604666 | 02:39 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 604666 in aptitude "aptitude-gtk menus do not work (many errors dumped to stdout)" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 02:39 |
| holstein | hmm, yeah | 02:40 |
| holstein | probably have to try going to whoever is maintaining the app | 02:40 |
| runamuck | okay, no worries | 02:40 |
| runamuck | thanks for the help | 02:40 |
| holstein | runamuck: hang here as long as you like though | 02:41 |
| holstein | its a good bet someone will know something | 02:41 |
| runamuck | i will be on for a while | 02:41 |
| runamuck | no worries | 02:41 |
| runamuck | i saw this on another page but I can't figure out how moving this to /root would help anything. After this they run a sudo apt-get update and magically it works.... | 02:46 |
| runamuck | sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list.d/local-repository.list /root | 02:46 |
| runamuck | are they just getting a whole new lists? why not rm it then..... | 02:46 |
| holstein | hmmm... do you need a new list? | 02:47 |
| holstein | that doest sound right | 02:47 |
| runamuck | don't know, found it here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1656847 | 02:47 |
| holstein | if sudo apt-get update has no errors, id say all is well | 02:47 |
| runamuck | still don't get why they are mv that list to roots home directory..... | 02:51 |
| runamuck | seems like that does nothing | 02:52 |
| runamuck | brb | 02:55 |
| Twizz2 | holstein: will 11.04 run on a pentium 4 1500 mhz? | 03:05 |
| holstein | Twizz2: should be fine | 03:07 |
| holstein | i might look at one of the lighter ones though | 03:07 |
| holstein | !xubuntu | 03:08 |
| ubot2 | Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels | 03:08 |
| Twizz2 | i'm running it live ... and it seems to be so slow that the mouse even lags and i can't get FF to open | 03:08 |
| Twizz2 | I can give that a try, I'm not opposed to trial and reject/succeed | 03:09 |
| holstein | it'll run faster after you install | 03:09 |
| Twizz2 | I'm not doign anything time sensitive .. jsut wnat a linux environment to play around with and learn on in my free time | 03:09 |
| holstein | i usually go to a tty and run some commands | 03:09 |
| holstein | or open a terimal | 03:10 |
| Twizz2 | none of the ap windows even open | 03:10 |
| Twizz2 | you suggest xubuntu as a lighter weight option then? I'll just try that from cd tomorrow | 03:11 |
| holstein | Twizz2: or just try installing what you got | 03:11 |
| Twizz2 | goign to take some asprin and head to bed and try to kick this head cold | 03:11 |
| holstein | see if it runs faster, which it will | 03:11 |
| holstein | theres a classic desktop option that will be faster probably | 03:12 |
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| Twizz2 | sounds good, thanks again | 03:12 |
| holstein | sure, anytime | 03:13 |
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| edie_ | I need help installing the .run amd drivers | 06:27 |
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| edie_ | I executed the file in terminal but i dont think it has been installed | 06:27 |
| edie_ | it says it needs e.org | 06:28 |
| edie_ | x.org sorry | 06:28 |
| edie_ | i tried to download x.org in synaptic update manager | 06:28 |
| celthunder | edie_: if you have synaptic you probably have x | 06:34 |
| celthunder | edie_: open a terminal window within x and sudo sh <file> | 06:34 |
| edie_ | i just need to type in sudo sh and then my file name? | 06:38 |
| edie_ | but cant I just run the .run file with the terminal by adjusting the property? | 06:38 |
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| s-fox | Hello. | 10:04 |
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| celthunder | hi | 10:05 |
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| coalwater | is there a way to use curl with grep? to get a certain line in a webpage? | 10:39 |
| s-fox | coalwater, Use a pipe | 10:42 |
| coalwater | i know, try it and you'll know why i'm asking | 10:43 |
| coalwater | curl http://www.google.com | grep title | 10:45 |
| coalwater | try this for example | 10:45 |
| s-fox | Must use grep? | 10:54 |
| s-fox | Can do it with sed | 10:54 |
| s-fox | curl http://www.google.com | sed -n 2p | 10:55 |
| s-fox | @ coalwater | 10:55 |
| coalwater | s-fox, i never used sed before, but it seems to be working | 10:58 |
| Puck` | hi everyone | 10:59 |
| Puck` | (: | 10:59 |
| s-fox | Only issue I am having is that it is also picking up close head and body tags | 10:59 |
| s-fox | Hello Puck`. | 10:59 |
| Puck` | does anyone have knowledge of a command or lib that could help me output the lenght of any mp3 file? | 10:59 |
| s-fox | Got that postcard yet? lol | 10:59 |
| coalwater | what does '2p' mean | 10:59 |
| Puck` | s-fox: still no postcard, I'm quite amazed. You didn't get them back? | 11:00 |
| s-fox | Puck`, mp3info -p "%m:s\n" filename.mp3 | 11:01 |
| s-fox | Or something like that anyway ;) | 11:01 |
| Puck` | so i need mp3info? | 11:01 |
| Puck` | thank you (: | 11:01 |
| s-fox | Might be mp3info -p "%S" filename.mp3 | 11:02 |
| s-fox | coalwater, returns certain line of output. in this case line 2 | 11:03 |
| Puck` | s-fox: %S outputs the total time in seconds, "%m:%s" it is | 11:03 |
| Puck` | thank you very much (: | 11:03 |
| s-fox | No issue Puck`, glad to help you. | 11:04 |
| s-fox | Puck`, Out of interest... what does mp3info -x filename.mp3 return? | 11:05 |
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| Puck` | s-fox: http://pastebin.com/00TF0w5q | 11:26 |
| s-fox | Thanks Puck`, looks like you could just grep the length if you wanted. | 11:29 |
| Puck` | s-fox: I can simply output it with the -p "%m:%s" command, then get it in a db, that's enough | 11:35 |
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| coalwater | BloodyMind, :P | 14:54 |
| coalwater | #ubuntu-beginners-team | 14:55 |
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| artzra_ | hi | 16:39 |
| artzra_ | skype freeze after 1min | 16:40 |
| holstein | any skype users here? using the current skype from the repos and 11.04 ?? | 16:40 |
| artzra_ | try to use skype | 16:40 |
| artzra_ | ty | 16:41 |
| artzra_ | holstein my translater !! | 16:41 |
| holstein | :) | 16:41 |
| artzra_ | :) | 16:41 |
| escott | artzra_, not sure what people are going to be able to tell you. it works for me... but its a closed source program and i can't offer you many suggestions except to try using LD_PRELOAD to trick it into using v4l2 if you think your problems might be camera related | 16:43 |
| artzra_ | ld_preaload ? | 16:45 |
| artzra_ | i dont use camera | 16:45 |
| escott | artzra_, well then LD_PRELOAD won't be helpful | 16:45 |
| holstein | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=966882 | 16:45 |
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| kidsodateless | hello, i had changed the default theme of Edubuntu 10.04LTS to Ambiance and I wonder how i could revert it back to the default? :D | 16:58 |
| holstein | kidsodateless: i would just go where you changed it to ambiance, and look for 'defalt' or try some that look like the default | 16:59 |
| holstein | you can always make another new user temporarily... that user should have the default settings.. login, and look and see, and learn what theme to apply | 17:00 |
| kidsodateless | holstein: i just did, but i there is no default them in there, :D the closes them was radiance but it | 17:02 |
| kidsodateless | is not totally looks like the default one. | 17:03 |
| kidsodateless | I | 17:03 |
| holstein | kidsodateless: the new user didnt have the default theme? | 17:05 |
| holstein | you didnt remove the edubuntu-desktop meta pacakge right? | 17:06 |
| kidsodateless | ah see.. i guess, i have to make a new user then. | 17:06 |
| kidsodateless | yeah did not. | 17:06 |
| disassembler | hey, everyone. i'm will. i'm fairly new to ubuntu and the ubuntu user community. i hope to become a more active member in the coming months. | 17:09 |
| holstein | disassembler: welcome | 17:10 |
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| kidsodateless | holstein: i made a new user and it works. thanks :D | 17:19 |
| holstein | kidsodateless: can you see the theme name? | 17:22 |
| holstein | if not, you should be able to save that current theme as something you can find and apply as the other user | 17:22 |
| kidsodateless | holstein: yeah, custom :D much pretty cool to see all computers that have same theme. i'm currently converting school's computer lab to Edubuntu and i already installed on 5 computers, 11 remaining to be finish. happy :D | 17:31 |
| meindian523 | How can I delete my account on Ubuntu Forums? | 17:35 |
| meindian523 | without it becoming "burnt beans"? | 17:35 |
| meindian523 | anyone? | 17:36 |
| holstein | meindian523: this might be relavant | 17:36 |
| holstein | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1243366 | 17:36 |
| holstein | and bodhi_zazen might be around to reiterate | 17:36 |
| meindian523 | ah, ty holstein | 17:37 |
| meindian523 | I looked around settings to see somewhere I could do it independently | 17:37 |
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| disassembler | would someone be able to help me with a wireless adapter issue i'm having? i've been trying to get my belkin n wireless adapter to work for ages now, and i've searched a number of threads and documentation, and have had no luck. | 20:21 |
| disassembler | here's a blog post i've made listing a few of the resources i've checked and a few commands that will hopefully help you to better understand the issue. http://tumblr.sect7.net/post/6591822553/belkin | 20:24 |
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| holstein | disassembler: how about nidisgtk ?? | 20:36 |
| tommy_gunz | Hey all...new here so just lookin for some neat stuff to get into...:) | 21:09 |
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| tommy_gunz | anyone know of a good place for torrent invites??? | 21:10 |
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