=== AndrewMC` is now known as AndrewMC [00:59] is there anything about grub (installed Ubuntu 8.01 server) that would prevent me from booting form a thumbstick or cd? [01:00] I'm trying to install 11.04 [01:00] hey Twizz2 [01:00] booting from a usb stick is something that's handled by the bios before grub loads [01:00] so it wouldn't be grub that's preventing it [01:03] hey holstein [01:03] you installed ubuntu server 8.04? [01:03] when? [01:03] on the order of years ago 2 maybe [01:03] AH, ok... anyways... whats the deal? [01:03] i never got it installed or working correctly and i move to an island for work for a year after installing ... so i just kind of left it [01:03] OK [01:03] I've got 11.04 on a thunmstick and I'm trying to get it to install, and its not booting from the stick [01:03] is your machine able to boot USB sticks? [01:03] can you burn a CD? [01:03] i think so, but i don't see a setting for it in the bios, i can yes [01:03] well, dont think [01:03] but currently it won't even boot a windows install cd [01:03] it either does or it doesnt, and you can waste a lot of time [01:03] I'll assume no since its not in the bios as an option [01:03] the computer was new in 2001 [01:04] yeah, i would unplug the hard drive so you dont ruin it accientally, then play around til you get a CD booting [01:04] alright I'll try burning a cd and see where that gets me [01:04] Twizz2: doesnt really matter when, some do USB boot, and some dont, but it wont magically do it, you'll have to sort it out in the bios, and ubuntu/linux can really help with that [01:05] Twizz2: for troubleshooting purposes, you can use *any* CD... that windows disc, whatever [01:05] you just want to see something boot [01:05] however, i would suggest making an ubuntu 10.04 live CD for this and other testing purposes [01:06] http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/ubuntu-10.04.2-desktop-i386.iso [01:07] right i'm aware of all that, i just didn't know if grub could be blocking it. I know how the bios works, and there isn't an option for botting thumb sticks ... since grub probably isn't blocking it, thats really what i was looking for ... at least until i'm able to get something booting from disk or whatever [01:08] I'll probably be around for a few days and if i run into another snag I'll ask, thank you for your help [01:08] well, theres no 'probably', grub is not in the loop yet, so it *cant* [01:08] sure, let us know :) === escott_ is now known as escott [01:09] trouble shooting old and unfamiliar hardware can be challenging... much better if its not your main machine that broken [01:10] it boots to a grub menu currently, which is why i was curious if that was kickstarting before the cd/thumbstick boot, but its set to boot from HD's last so it *shouldn't* be causing it [01:10] its not, i've got 6 machines here [01:10] nah... BUT, just unplug that drive, and you wont see that [01:11] it'll be in the bios... somthing about boot order or boot sequence, and you'll see the hard drive is before the optical drive [01:11] *more than likely* i should say... [01:13] right now i have it configured to boot 1 legacy floppy drives 2 atapi cd rom drive 3 bootable cards (not sure what that is and i've tried moving it first and last no change) 4 HD1 5 HD2 [01:13] yeah, and bioses are quite different, so i have no frame of referece to offer you much assistance [01:13] based on that i assume that there is no support for the thumb disk [01:14] can i make a live cd from 11.04? since i already have it? [01:15] Twizz2: sure, i suggest 10.04 becuase its the LTS - long term support, but 11.04 will work great :) [01:34] it appears to be booting from the disk [01:35] w00t Twizz2 :) thats good news.. === styx|out is now known as [styx] [01:36] i don't know what its doing and it looked a little strange, but now i have a redish/purple screend with the word ubuntu and some red dot progress bar [01:36] Twizz2: at some point, you'll just have to tell it what to do :) [01:37] before that i had an underlined + sign and an upside down U in the upper left corner on a blue background and the rest of the screen was black .... and it let me type jibberish in the black ... then it moved on [01:37] now i think i'm just waiting on it to load [01:37] which on this old pc may take longer than burnign the disk did [02:02] do i need to do anything to get it to detect my internet connection? eth 0 (wired) [02:02] Twizz2: that depends [02:03] usually, lan cards are well supported [02:03] i would just plug it in and see, and if not, we can look around [02:03] the installer says i'm not connected was the only reason i'm asking [02:03] its plugged in [02:04] Twizz2: you should run it live first [02:04] i mean, go ahead and install now, but thats a great way to tell how well hte hardware is supported before you install [02:05] i was only 1 step in, i went back to "try it" [02:06] sorry, i'm a little under the weather today too ... I'm not opperating at full capacity [02:06] Twizz2: no worries... hope you feel better soon [02:36] moin [02:36] I have a problem with a python program I compiled. I can't find anything wrong with it. I have ubuntu 11.04 [02:36] runamuck: you have any output?... its not something thats in the repos? [02:37] when the program tries to run I get several of these messages from what looks like the menu system: libglade-WARNING **: could not look up stock id [02:37] not in repos no [02:37] but libglade2.0 is installed [02:38] and of course none of the menus work in the app [02:38] ;) [02:39] anyone see something like that? [02:39] i found this in google and it scares me though https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptitude/+bug/604666 [02:39] Ubuntu bug 604666 in aptitude "aptitude-gtk menus do not work (many errors dumped to stdout)" [Undecided,Confirmed] [02:40] hmm, yeah [02:40] probably have to try going to whoever is maintaining the app [02:40] okay, no worries [02:40] thanks for the help [02:41] runamuck: hang here as long as you like though [02:41] its a good bet someone will know something [02:41] i will be on for a while [02:41] no worries [02:46] i saw this on another page but I can't figure out how moving this to /root would help anything. After this they run a sudo apt-get update and magically it works.... [02:46] sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list.d/local-repository.list /root [02:46] are they just getting a whole new lists? why not rm it then..... [02:47] hmmm... do you need a new list? [02:47] that doest sound right [02:47] don't know, found it here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1656847 [02:47] if sudo apt-get update has no errors, id say all is well [02:51] still don't get why they are mv that list to roots home directory..... [02:52] seems like that does nothing [02:55] brb [03:05] holstein: will 11.04 run on a pentium 4 1500 mhz? [03:07] Twizz2: should be fine [03:07] i might look at one of the lighter ones though [03:08] !xubuntu [03:08] Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels [03:08] i'm running it live ... and it seems to be so slow that the mouse even lags and i can't get FF to open [03:09] I can give that a try, I'm not opposed to trial and reject/succeed [03:09] it'll run faster after you install [03:09] I'm not doign anything time sensitive .. jsut wnat a linux environment to play around with and learn on in my free time [03:09] i usually go to a tty and run some commands [03:10] or open a terimal [03:10] none of the ap windows even open [03:11] you suggest xubuntu as a lighter weight option then? I'll just try that from cd tomorrow [03:11] Twizz2: or just try installing what you got [03:11] goign to take some asprin and head to bed and try to kick this head cold [03:11] see if it runs faster, which it will [03:12] theres a classic desktop option that will be faster probably === celthunder1 is now known as celthunder [03:12] sounds good, thanks again [03:13] sure, anytime === Twizz2 is now known as Twizz_away [06:27] I need help installing the .run amd drivers === Corey is now known as KB1JWQ === KB1JWQ is now known as Corey [06:27] I executed the file in terminal but i dont think it has been installed [06:28] it says it needs e.org [06:28] x.org sorry [06:28] i tried to download x.org in synaptic update manager [06:34] edie_: if you have synaptic you probably have x [06:34] edie_: open a terminal window within x and sudo sh [06:38] i just need to type in sudo sh and then my file name? [06:38] but cant I just run the .run file with the terminal by adjusting the property? === AndrewMC is now known as Guest65795 === Guest65795 is now known as AndrewMC === AndrewMC is now known as Guest8756 === Guest8756 is now known as AndrewMC === AndrewMC is now known as Guest95893 [10:04] Hello. === Guest95893 is now known as AndrewMC [10:05] hi === AndrewMC is now known as Guest63456 [10:39] is there a way to use curl with grep? to get a certain line in a webpage? [10:42] coalwater, Use a pipe [10:43] i know, try it and you'll know why i'm asking [10:45] curl http://www.google.com | grep title [10:45] try this for example [10:54] Must use grep? [10:54] Can do it with sed [10:55] curl http://www.google.com | sed -n 2p [10:55] @ coalwater [10:58] s-fox, i never used sed before, but it seems to be working [10:59] hi everyone [10:59] (: [10:59] Only issue I am having is that it is also picking up close head and body tags [10:59] Hello Puck`. [10:59] does anyone have knowledge of a command or lib that could help me output the lenght of any mp3 file? [10:59] Got that postcard yet? lol [10:59] what does '2p' mean [11:00] s-fox: still no postcard, I'm quite amazed. You didn't get them back? [11:01] Puck`, mp3info -p "%m:s\n" filename.mp3 [11:01] Or something like that anyway ;) [11:01] so i need mp3info? [11:01] thank you (: [11:02] Might be mp3info -p "%S" filename.mp3 [11:03] coalwater, returns certain line of output. in this case line 2 [11:03] s-fox: %S outputs the total time in seconds, "%m:%s" it is [11:03] thank you very much (: [11:04] No issue Puck`, glad to help you. [11:05] Puck`, Out of interest... what does mp3info -x filename.mp3 return? === Guest63456 is now known as AndrewMC === AndrewMC is now known as Guest7644 [11:26] s-fox: http://pastebin.com/00TF0w5q [11:29] Thanks Puck`, looks like you could just grep the length if you wanted. [11:35] s-fox: I can simply output it with the -p "%m:%s" command, then get it in a db, that's enough === Guest7644 is now known as AndrewMC === AndrewMC is now known as Guest49732 === Guest49732 is now known as AndrewMC === AndrewMC is now known as Guest31865 === Guest31865 is now known as AndrewMC === AndrewMC is now known as Guest12810 [14:54] BloodyMind, :P [14:55] #ubuntu-beginners-team === Guest12810 is now known as AndrewMC === AndrewMC is now known as Guest78670 === Guest78670 is now known as AndrewMC === AndrewMC is now known as Guest62338 [16:39] hi [16:40] skype freeze after 1min [16:40] any skype users here? using the current skype from the repos and 11.04 ?? [16:40] try to use skype [16:41] ty [16:41] holstein my translater !! [16:41] :) [16:41] :) [16:43] artzra_, not sure what people are going to be able to tell you. it works for me... but its a closed source program and i can't offer you many suggestions except to try using LD_PRELOAD to trick it into using v4l2 if you think your problems might be camera related [16:45] ld_preaload ? [16:45] i dont use camera [16:45] artzra_, well then LD_PRELOAD won't be helpful [16:45] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=966882 === easwar is now known as meindian523 [16:58] hello, i had changed the default theme of Edubuntu 10.04LTS to Ambiance and I wonder how i could revert it back to the default? :D [16:59] kidsodateless: i would just go where you changed it to ambiance, and look for 'defalt' or try some that look like the default [17:00] you can always make another new user temporarily... that user should have the default settings.. login, and look and see, and learn what theme to apply [17:02] holstein: i just did, but i there is no default them in there, :D the closes them was radiance but it [17:03] is not totally looks like the default one. [17:03] I [17:05] kidsodateless: the new user didnt have the default theme? [17:06] you didnt remove the edubuntu-desktop meta pacakge right? [17:06] ah see.. i guess, i have to make a new user then. [17:06] yeah did not. [17:09] hey, everyone. i'm will. i'm fairly new to ubuntu and the ubuntu user community. i hope to become a more active member in the coming months. [17:10] disassembler: welcome === Guest62338 is now known as AndrewMC === AndrewMC is now known as Guest29241 [17:19] holstein: i made a new user and it works. thanks :D [17:22] kidsodateless: can you see the theme name? [17:22] if not, you should be able to save that current theme as something you can find and apply as the other user [17:31] holstein: yeah, custom :D much pretty cool to see all computers that have same theme. i'm currently converting school's computer lab to Edubuntu and i already installed on 5 computers, 11 remaining to be finish. happy :D [17:35] How can I delete my account on Ubuntu Forums? [17:35] without it becoming "burnt beans"? [17:36] anyone? [17:36] meindian523: this might be relavant [17:36] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1243366 [17:36] and bodhi_zazen might be around to reiterate [17:37] ah, ty holstein [17:37] I looked around settings to see somewhere I could do it independently === IAmNotThatGuy is now known as M0hi === Guest29241 is now known as AndrewMC === AndrewMC is now known as Guest1706 === Guest1706 is now known as AndrewMC === AndrewMC is now known as Guest70836 === Guest70836 is now known as AndrewMC === AndrewMC is now known as Guest80193 [20:21] would someone be able to help me with a wireless adapter issue i'm having? i've been trying to get my belkin n wireless adapter to work for ages now, and i've searched a number of threads and documentation, and have had no luck. [20:24] here's a blog post i've made listing a few of the resources i've checked and a few commands that will hopefully help you to better understand the issue. http://tumblr.sect7.net/post/6591822553/belkin === yofel_ is now known as yofel [20:36] disassembler: how about nidisgtk ?? [21:09] Hey all...new here so just lookin for some neat stuff to get into...:) === meindian523 is now known as easwar [21:10] anyone know of a good place for torrent invites??? === Guest80193 is now known as AndrewMC === AndrewMC is now known as Guest76011 === [styx] is now known as styx|away === Guest76011 is now known as AndrewMC === AndrewMC is now known as Guest56790 === Guest56790 is now known as AndrewMC === AndrewMC is now known as Guest47879 === Guest47879 is now known as AndrewMC