[01:23] <Pendulum> jcastro: nope, not me
[03:05] <cjohnston> maco2: ping
[03:05] <maco> cjohnston: whats up?
[03:05] <maco> what i break?
[03:05] <cjohnston> What's the story with two DC loco teams
[03:05] <cjohnston> LD
[03:05] <maco> there's only one
[03:06] <maco> i thought yall fixed that bug ages ago?
[03:06] <cjohnston> you can merge them
[03:06] <cjohnston> thats how its fixed
[03:06] <maco> merge them?
[03:07] <cjohnston> yup
[03:07] <cjohnston> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/dcteam
[03:07] <cjohnston> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-districtofcolumbia
[03:07] <maco> ok merged then
[03:08] <cjohnston> WDC LoCo is the newer?
[03:08] <cjohnston> now you screwed up where my team is on the list.. I've always looked for it on the right column.. now its the left
[03:08] <maco> yes
[03:08] <maco> ~dcteam doesnt exist on LP
[03:08] <maco> hasnt in a year
[03:09] <maco> where do those photos come from?
[03:09] <cjohnston> cool
[03:09] <maco> they're OLD
[03:09] <cjohnston> fixed
[03:09] <cjohnston> yay
[03:09] <maco> or at least some of them are...like 6 years old
[03:09] <maco> oh i see
[03:10] <maco> flickr id? hmm wonder if that's the group or if that's a user id
[03:10] <cjohnston> yes
[03:10] <maco> oooh ok nvm i see. didnt realise flint was still around...
[03:11] <maco> oh they are ancient photos. someone just got around to uploading them very recently
[03:48] <nigelb> paultag's probably finally happy this year :P
[03:48] <nigelb> Now that his team won
[03:49] <paultag> nigelb: :D
[03:49] <paultag> nigelb: Go B's!
[04:00] <nigelb> haha
[04:13]  * nhandler notes Chicago won last year
[04:13] <rrnwexec> greetings from Vancouver. it's quiet here :)
[04:14] <nigelb> Yeah, paultag is going to gloating
[04:14] <nigelb> Not sure if you want to listen to that :P
[04:14] <rrnwexec> no worries, i'm not a hockey fan ;)
[04:14] <paultag> Go B's!!!
[04:15] <paultag> :)
[04:15] <rrnwexec> grew up in a B's household though.
[04:15] <paultag> rrnwexec: ah, no way. That's awesome. I'm from B ;)
[04:15] <rrnwexec> ;)
[04:15] <rrnwexec> yes
[04:16] <paultag> man, I love Top Gear
[04:16] <paultag> what a great show
[04:16] <paultag> rrnwexec: How are things?
[04:16] <rrnwexec> paultag: pretty good thanks. UCW is starting to look great
[04:16] <paultag> rrnwexec: for sure!!
[04:16] <rrnwexec> got some rock stars lined up
[04:16] <rrnwexec> :)
[04:16] <paultag> big +1 there :)
[04:17] <rrnwexec> too bad you're so far from Vancouver. our big party is Friday night
[04:18] <rrnwexec> we're serving ubuntini's, spinning tunes. 3 DJ's. right sdowntown. lots of crazy stuff
[04:18] <paultag> rrnwexec: yeah, bummer! We could have some fun and get us some Ubutinis ;)
[04:18] <paultag> that was you guys, right?
[04:18] <rrnwexec> yes
[04:18] <paultag> :)
[04:18] <paultag> thought so :)
[04:18] <rrnwexec> next time you're headed this way just gimme a shout. we'll throw another party
[04:18] <rrnwexec> ;)
[04:18] <paultag> rrnwexec: oh for sure!
[04:19] <paultag> the Vancover LoCo rocks hard
[04:19] <rrnwexec> we try
[04:20] <nhandler> Hey, I placed dibs on meeting up with paultag. Get in line rrnwexec :)
[04:20] <paultag> nhandler: you'll be in chi-town for Uni, aye?
[04:20] <nigelb> chi-town?
[04:20] <rrnwexec> nhandler: we'll lure him here with a MASSIVE YOU-party ;)
[04:20] <paultag> nhandler: I have been seriously considering a trip to Chicago in the next yearish
[04:20] <rrnwexec> *U-party
[04:20] <paultag> rrnwexec: Oh you know I'd love that :)
[04:21] <paultag> I'd show up with Ubuntu war-paint on!
[04:21] <rrnwexec> awesome! do it!!
[04:21] <paultag> eggplant and orange war-paint
[04:21] <paultag> OMG
[04:21] <paultag> we should do that for code jams!!!!!
[04:22] <paultag> oh, brilliant
[04:23] <nhandler> paultag: I'm at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, so a few hours away from the city. I'm still hoping we can meet up when I am at the cape in july. Otherwise, we'll have to hope your chi town visit matches up to a long weekend or a break or something
[04:24] <paultag> nhandler: yeah, we'll figure something out. I'm planning to vacation in Cleveland once I get a big-boy job, so I'll take a few weeks to hang out in the area. If I fly back, Chicago is actually a sane stop-over
[04:25] <paultag> nhandler: depending on where I work, of course
[06:19] <czajkowski> Good morning
[06:20] <czajkowski> will not be online today, at the hospital wth the bf getting his tonsils out, anyone looking for me email me
[08:54] <dholbach> good morning
[08:56] <dholbach> AlanBell, Happy Birthday!
[08:56] <dholbach> hey dpm
[08:57] <dpm> moin dholbach
[09:00] <kim0> morning
[09:00] <kim0> dholbach: dpm o/
[09:01] <dholbach> hey kim0
[09:13]  * jussi cracks up... http://www.springerlink.com/content/x161246067q0h638/
[09:15] <dpm> hey kim0
[09:25] <akgraner> Good Morning!
[09:25] <akgraner> :-)
[09:35] <nigelb> ahoy
[09:42] <nigelb> ZOMG.
[09:42] <nigelb> Wiki update today!
[09:43] <nigelb> AlanBell: HAPPY BIRTHDAY! Looks like you have a birthday gift from IS ;)
[09:47] <Rhonda> I think someone should tell Mohamad that his screenshot in the Xlog blog post can be considered a bit off.  :/
[09:48]  * Rhonda . o O ( I hope this channel is proper for bringing that up )
[09:49] <dholbach> Rhonda, I think you can just drop him a friendly email about it
[09:51] <Rhonda> Usually I receive answers along the lines of "grow a thicker skin"
[09:51] <dholbach> did you get that reply in this case?
[09:52] <Rhonda> No, but such responses are too common that it starts to get demotivating to mention it at all …
[09:52] <dholbach> but it seems to bother you
[09:53] <Rhonda> If it only bothers me, I guess I'll suck it up
[09:53] <dholbach> sorry, that's not what I meant
[09:54] <dholbach> I just thought "if it bothers you, just send a friendly email about it"
[10:14] <akgraner> The official Ubuntu Book has started shipping to stores  - yay!!!
[10:15] <jussi> Happy Birthday AlanBell
[10:15] <akgraner> AlanBell, happy b-day!
[13:33] <mhall119> morning, and happy birthday AlanBell
[13:36] <nigelb> mhall119: IS is celebrating AlanBell's brithday with wiki update :D
[13:46] <mhall119> yay?
[14:27] <jcastro> AlanBell: ALRIGHT
[14:27] <jcastro> today is wiki day!
[14:32] <dholbach> jcastro, AlanBell's birthday present
[14:32] <jcastro> oh cool, happy birthday
[16:23] <paultag> mhall119: http://i.imgur.com/2cHHT.jpg
[16:24] <nigelb> paultag: YES!
[16:24] <paultag> mhall119: starting to prototype some cool stuff, it's looking sweet :)
[16:24] <paultag> nigelb: :)
[16:27] <Pendulum> paultag: thank you for the reminder that I (still) need to root my Nook Color
[16:28] <paultag> Pendulum: sheesh! I rooted my STR in 12 hours without a guide :)
[16:28] <paultag> get to it :)
[16:29] <Pici> Pendulum: http://nookdevs.com/Main_Page is quite helpful
[16:30] <Pendulum> paultag: well when I got the Nook Color I didn't have a microSD card. And then when I had one I was about to travel and I get nervous about messing with tech right before I travel because I have a history of stupid mistakes. And since I've been sick.
[16:30] <Pici> :/
[16:31] <paultag> Pendulum: yeah, I hear ya
[16:31] <paultag> Pendulum: no worries :)
[16:31] <Pici> I thought I bricked my nook yesterday if thats any consellation.
[16:31] <paultag> it's very hard to do Pici :)
[16:31] <paultag> Pici: which nook?
[16:32] <Pici> paultag: nook color.
[16:32] <paultag> Pici: Oh, humm. How do you like it?
[16:33] <Pici> paultag: I tried to do a cm7 rom upgrade and it just wouldn't power on afterwards.  Somehow mashing on the power button in frustration got it to work, after about an hour of trying different methods.
[16:33] <Pendulum> Pici: B&N once deleted all my info off my NC :(
[16:33] <nigelb> Pendulum: why?
[16:33] <paultag> Pici: pang
[16:33] <paultag> dang *
[16:34] <Pici> Pendulum: I actually don't even have the B&N software installed here.
[16:34] <Pici> paultag: Its very nice. I bought it specifically to root it and use as a tablet.
[16:34] <Pici> I wish it had a camera or microphone, but for $200 (on sale!) I'm willing to let a few features go.
[16:35] <Pendulum> nigelb: they had a server bug and in fixing it accidentally deleted a bunch of userdata from being able to sync with Nooks (essentially wiping those Nooks back to factory presets). I was unlucky enough to connect to wifi while things were down and to be one of the people whose data got screwed
[16:35] <Pendulum> it was very odd
[16:35] <Pendulum> it wasn't horrible because everything did still actually exist in the cloud
[16:36] <Pendulum> just meant re-setting up things
[16:36] <nigelb> ah
[16:36] <Pendulum> (and this was 3 days before I left for Europe and things were down about 6 hours so I did get nervous)
[16:38] <Pendulum> it's the one negative thing I can say about my Nook and if I'd rooted it beforehand, wouldn't have been an issue
[16:38] <Pendulum> otherwise even with the B&N software I love it and I expect to love it even more when I root it
[16:44] <nigelb> woooooaaahhh
[16:44] <nigelb> paultag:
[16:44] <nigelb> https://github.com/MrMEEE/bumblebee/commit/a047be85247755cdbe0acce6f1dafc8beb84f2ac
[16:54] <paultag> nigelb: hahahahahahaha wtf
[16:56] <paultag> I made the same mistake when I was first learning bash. I ran "sudo rm -rf ~/*". Turns out I ran "sudo rm -rf ~ /*"
[16:56] <paultag> d'oh
[16:56] <paultag> it was chugging along till it hit proc and I freaked out
[16:57] <nigelb> when 'm in sudo, I always use autocomplete
[16:57] <paultag> (since it won't delete those guys)
[16:57] <paultag> nigelb: erm, autocomplete won't work with sudo
[16:57] <maco> sudo on ~?
[16:57] <paultag> maco: I was learning, I know, I know, I know
[16:57] <pleia2> yikes, code review is good
[16:57] <paultag> maco: this was in 2003-4
[16:57] <paultag> and it might have been an su -c, but I can't remember
[16:58] <paultag> I think I had debian, so it'd have been su -c, but same idea
[16:58] <nigelb> I like what I think most of canonical does. Work in another branch, everything gets 1 or 2 reviews before getting in.
[16:58] <popey> YOU MUST REMEMBER YOUR ANECDOTE PAUL!
[16:58] <popey> DO BETTER!
[16:58] <pleia2> nigelb: s/canonical/every sane project and company anywhere :)
[16:58]  * paultag cries at popey's dissapoint :(
[16:58] <paultag> +1 Pendulum
[16:58] <paultag> erm, pleia2
[16:58] <nigelb> pleia2: except the ones I've ever worked for :)
[16:58] <paultag> nigelb: fail
[16:58] <pleia2> nigelb: not sane!
[16:58] <nigelb> I know!
[16:58] <paultag> github supports that workflow really really well
[16:59] <nigelb> Most places are "we have to release, not write tests"
[16:59] <paultag> nigelb: sed s/Most\ places/Most\ two-bit\ places//g
[16:59] <nigelb> haha
[16:59] <nigelb> +1 there too
[16:59] <paultag> not having code review = fail
[17:00] <paultag> nigelb: even tenach and myself when we work on projects together. One will push to the local branch, then someone reviews it and commits. It's bad to push your own commits live
[17:02] <nigelb> paultag: I know, but hey, ubuntu projects are all great with tarmac, etc
[17:03] <nigelb> Well, tarmac doesn't help review, but it helps the review workflow
[17:03] <nigelb> No reason to be lazy to land
[17:07] <nigelb> dholbach: You want to hand hold the person in #ubuntu-devel? :)
[17:14] <dholbach> nigelb, hm?
[17:14] <nigelb> dholbach: There was someone who came into #ubuntu-devel wanting to know where to start. if I weren't busy, I'd have helped him out right away.
[17:15] <maco> cjwatson sent him to #ubuntu-app-devel
[17:15] <dholbach> I need to rush out the office in a bit
[17:19] <nhandler> I still think we should close #ubuntu-app-devel and merge it into another channel. Most of the time, someone joins, asks a questions, gets 0 responses, and quiets. I see very few people actually get help in there.
[17:26] <Pici> nhandler: What would be a good candidate for the merging though?
[17:29] <nhandler> Pici: Depends on what part of the process they are on. If they are programming it, send them to one of the python, perl, c, etc channels. If they are trying to add an indicator or something else like that, send them to an ayatana channel. If they are ready to get it into the repositories, #ubuntu-packaging will help them.
[17:32] <nigelb> nhandler: The problem is, people who are not sure what they wwant to do.
[17:32] <nigelb> Yeah, things brings up ubuntu-wanted
[17:32] <nigelb> or probably openhatch.
[17:33] <nigelb> Actually, hrm, openhatch is a potentially good place.
[17:34] <nhandler> nigelb: Well, in its current state, they won't get much help with that problem (or any problem) in #ubuntu-app-devel .
[17:34] <nigelb> nhandler: I know.
[17:36] <nigelb> Trying to figure out how to fix that.
[17:36] <nigelb> My things to do tonight is too long. Laters.
[17:38] <dholbach> alright my friends
[17:38] <dholbach> I call it a day
[17:38] <dholbach> see you all tomorrow
[19:02] <nigelb> jcastro: So, there's a game engine.  Guess what its called? Unity3D.
[19:03] <jcastro> yeah
[19:03] <jcastro> it's been around for a while
[19:03] <nigelb> I was wondering why the blog post about Unity 3D I was reading had a totally different logo and the post was confusing :)
[19:08] <Pendulum> nigelb: one of my mates programs things on it. He also was one of the first people to introduce me to linux. I've had some very confused moments due to that
[19:08] <nigelb> heh
[19:29] <jcastro> heya popey
[19:29] <jcastro> what HP server do you have?
[19:30] <jcastro> pleia2: did you get a preshipment or did all the earrings go out?
[19:31] <nhandler> jcastro: You ordered a pair?
[19:32] <jcastro> yeah for my wife
[19:32] <pleia2> jcastro: I ordered them along with everyone else :) but the company is like 15 miles from me
[19:32] <jcastro> oh
[19:32] <jcastro> so maybe I'll get them tommorrow or monday
[19:33] <pleia2> I used google checkout and it gave me a shipment notification when they shipped
[20:21] <popey> jcastro: HP Microserver
[20:21] <popey> jcastro: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/253305
[20:21] <popey> tis small
[20:27] <jcastro> oh man
[20:28] <jcastro> that looks awesome
[20:28] <jcastro> oh dude
[20:28] <jcastro> and an esata port
[20:29] <jcastro> pretty cheap too
[20:30] <popey> yeah, and you get cashback
[20:30] <popey> I've had mine 6 months and the offer has been on all that time
[20:31] <popey> we're giving one away on the podcast soon :D
[20:31] <jcastro> I am surprised there aren't tons of little low power servers like this
[20:31] <jcastro> with atoms and stuff
[20:31] <popey> yeah
[20:31] <jcastro> of course, I don't mean the dumb WHS ones without VGA ports (stooooooopid)
[20:31] <popey> the fact that it has room for 4 drives is handy
[20:31] <popey> well, 5 drives
[20:31] <popey> I moved the boot disk to the optical bay
[20:32] <jcastro> right, I have a 5 drive external esata enclosure and this old P4 desktop acting as a "server"
[20:32] <jcastro> when that dies I can put the 6TB external array on something like this and also get another 4 bays, brilliant.
[20:32] <popey> heh
[20:33] <popey> the only gotcha with these cheap servers is that the esata port is usually incapable of doing port multipliers
[20:33] <popey> so your external array presents 4 drives over one esata cable
[20:33] <jcastro> PCI card there
[20:33] <popey> the server only sees the first disk
[20:33] <popey> yeah, thats what I did
[20:33] <popey> room for two in fact
[20:33] <jcastro> right
[20:33] <popey> which is surprising
[20:33] <jcastro> so you'd think they'd have a line of these
[20:33] <jcastro> from 3 bays, up to 8 bays
[20:33] <popey> yeah, discontinued apparently
[20:33] <popey> hence the low price
[20:34] <jcastro> with nothing but ports, drives, and a low power Atom chip
[20:34] <jcastro> yeah
[20:34] <popey> but I think because a bunch of geeks went nuts for them, they extended the offer
[20:34] <jcastro> they are discontinuing all their home server stuff and redoing it apparently
[20:34] <popey> ahh
[20:34] <popey> its also got an internal usb port which is neat
[20:34] <jcastro> the mediaserver line or whatever
[20:34] <popey> so you can put the boot disk on usb :D
[20:34] <jcastro> they got totally screwed by microsoft
[20:34] <jcastro> windows home server has this awesome feature
[20:34] <jcastro> that lets you put in whatever size drives you have
[20:34] <jcastro> and makes it all magical drobo style
[20:35] <popey> oh, yeah, and they removed it?
[20:35] <jcastro> and then for the next version they said "oh that's enterprise level, sorry, removing that."
[20:35] <popey> that sucks
[20:35] <popey> looking forward to btrfs :D
[20:35] <popey> which does that
[20:35] <jcastro> but iirc I read hp is redoing the entire line built on webos
[20:35] <popey> blimey
[20:35] <jcastro> which means .... easy ubuntu server
[20:35] <popey> yeah
[20:36] <jcastro> I love their reason for removing the feature, "enterprise level"
[20:36] <jcastro> you know, for pro sysadmins building raid arrays out of different size disks they have laying around
[20:36] <jcastro> *rolleyes*
[20:36] <popey> haha
[20:36] <jcastro> but hey, gives btrfs time to finish up
[20:37] <jcastro> and then I hope to see tons of these cheap home things coming out
[20:37] <popey> yeah, I'd love a fully free software drobo-like
[20:38] <jcastro> btrfs gives us all that beautifulness afaict
[20:38] <popey> yeah
[20:38] <popey> a friend of mine is involved in it and speaks highly of it
[20:38] <popey> except for the fact that it's kinda missing a fsck tool ☺
[20:38] <popey> well, a working fsck tool
[20:38] <jcastro> heh
[20:39] <jcastro> what I did for my last enclosure is just max out the disks in it
[20:39] <jcastro> and I'll leave it ext4 until it dies
[20:39] <popey> smart
[20:39] <jcastro> but the new stuff I'll btrfs when I need the room
[21:06] <paultag> ← using btrfs
[21:06] <paultag> works fine now, at least for me :)
[22:17] <paultag> mhall119: do you have an interface for status.ubuntu?
[22:17] <paultag> erm, that might be cjohnston
[22:18] <mhall119> you mean an API?
[22:19] <paultag> mhall119: an API would work great
[22:19] <paultag> mhall119: bindings would be better, but an API would be great
[22:30] <cjohnston> paultag: not really, no.. why
[22:31] <paultag> cjohnston: I'm slowly putting together an android app for my Nook that fetches all sorts of data on projects linked to the instance. I want good Ubuntu connections so I don't have to go to websites to see data at a glance
[22:31] <cjohnston> gotcha..
[22:31] <paultag> cjohnston: I'd like some of the data from status.ubuntu (the graphs, in particular) to be gotable
[22:31] <cjohnston> no, there is no API.. you can file a bug if you wish
[22:32] <paultag> cjohnston: it's OK. I'll wait until I flesh this out more
[22:32] <paultag> cjohnston: just wondering and planning. I don't even have LP hookups yet
[23:46] <akgraner> popey, did you ever get that gadget for recording screencasts working?
[23:46] <popey> not brilliantly no
[23:46] <popey> very disappointed
[23:47] <akgraner> ahhh ok
[23:47] <popey> so I use a script instead now
[23:47] <popey> which is still not great
[23:47] <popey> ☹
[23:47] <akgraner> I was just trying to find some better solutions for me and was wondering
[23:47] <akgraner> and didn't want to spend the money if it as not worth the investment
[23:48] <popey> yea, I wouldn't
[23:48] <akgraner> thanks that's good info to know
[23:48] <popey> np