directhex | i need a no-change rebuild of antlr for the current mono transition. i lack upload powers for it, since it's only marginally monoish | 00:01 |
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Viper550 | Does anyone know how exactly to change the gtk theme on lightdm? | 00:04 |
Rioting_Pacifist | am i right in thinking pre-up and pre-down are no longer called in 11.04? | 00:25 |
Laney | directhex: ajmitch can do such! | 00:25 |
directhex | Laney: why hasn't he done it already? >8\/ | 00:26 |
TheMuso | directhex: I'll take care of it for you. | 00:27 |
directhex | TheMuso: thanks | 00:27 |
directhex | TheMuso: i've test-built it, so it should be fine & dandy with just a rebuild | 00:27 |
TheMuso | directhex: What should I be mentioning in the changelog? You said its for the mono transition, but do you want anything more specific? | 00:27 |
TheMuso | I'll test build again to be sure. | 00:28 |
directhex | TheMuso: the Mono CLR 4.0 class library, more specifically. or something along those lines. just make sure it has "4.0" in it somewhere | 00:29 |
TheMuso | urm ok. I'm trying to parse that with lttle success. | 00:29 |
TheMuso | little | 00:29 |
ajmitch | Laney: eh what? | 00:29 |
Laney | ajmitch: just trolling you | 00:31 |
Laney | carry on :) | 00:31 |
ajmitch | :( | 00:31 |
* Laney cuddles you | 00:31 | |
ajmitch | directhex: sorry I'm too slow to help you | 00:31 |
directhex | clearly! | 00:32 |
Laney | what in the world is going on | 00:32 |
Laney | a huge crowd of people have descended upon the street | 00:32 |
Laney | they appear to be filming something | 00:33 |
TheMuso | directhex: Ok, I see what change with the rebuild, and your message makes sense now. Will upload. | 00:34 |
TheMuso | directhex: Done. | 00:43 |
Laney | cd .. | 00:47 |
Laney | oops | 00:47 |
directhex | TheMuso: thanks | 00:47 |
directhex | TheMuso: that should make a dent on the transition | 00:48 |
TheMuso | Cool. | 00:48 |
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pitti_ | Good morning | 05:38 |
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maco | ev: can you re-review that merge proposal? i made the requested changes. users in bug report are getting all smart-alecky *sigh* | 05:45 |
ScottK | Is smart alecky users going to slow him down or speed him up? | 05:47 |
maco | ScottK: not sure. they're being smart alecky at me not him though | 05:50 |
maco | "fix it or find someone smart enough to do so" they say | 05:50 |
maco | zomg its been two whole weeks | 05:51 |
maco | yeah yeah i closed a 4-digit bug 2 weeks ago | 05:51 |
ubottu | Error: Launchpad bug 2 could not be found | 05:51 |
maco | sheesh, a bit of perspective... | 05:51 |
ScottK | Right, so I'm confused how he's supposed to find that motivational? He might just get popcorn and enjoy the show. | 05:58 |
micahg | can I get an AA to reject the rdscli in the queue, smoser has made some changes that I asked for and I'm waiting for one more before uploading | 06:00 |
micahg | it's in NEW for oneiric | 06:01 |
ScottK | Looking. | 06:02 |
ScottK | micahg: Done. | 06:03 |
micahg | ScottK: thanks | 06:03 |
ScottK | You're welcome. | 06:03 |
RoAkSoAx | is the archive admin that rejected rdscli around? | 06:08 |
RoAkSoAx | micahg: ideas.. you commented on it | 06:09 |
ScottK | RoAkSoAx: Read the backscroll. | 06:09 |
RoAkSoAx | ahh i just read | 06:09 |
RoAkSoAx | micahg: well I reviewed it and IMHO it could have been accepted with the warnings | 06:10 |
RoAkSoAx | ScottK: od you have time to review resource-agents and fence-agents | 06:10 |
RoAkSoAx | please | 06:10 |
RoAkSoAx | :) | 06:10 |
ScottK | No. Just about to go to bed. | 06:10 |
RoAkSoAx | ScottK: no worries then, thanks ;) | 06:10 |
micahg | RoAkSoAx: I didn't see a second ACK, so I thought I'd review it since you uploaded it already, it needed some fixing and we weren't near a freeze, so I thought fixing before hitting the archive was a good idea | 06:11 |
RoAkSoAx | micahg: yeah well warnings are not a big of a deal atm .. I'm not in my main computer but they were only manpages and few spelling errors that seemed to not being fixable | 06:13 |
RoAkSoAx | but from my point of view no reason to reject the upload | 06:13 |
micahg | RoAkSoAx: right, some were debian/control fixes, also, no instructions on how to update the package | 06:13 |
RoAkSoAx | micahg: yeah 1 spelling one description might be too short which I thought that the description couldn't get any bigger | 06:14 |
RoAkSoAx | because there was nothing more to say | 06:15 |
RoAkSoAx | but no deal breaker IMHO | 06:15 |
RoAkSoAx | :) | 06:15 |
micahg | RoAkSoAx: yeah, I wasn't worried about that one, more the duplicate depends fields, build-dep on quilt, and various other things, if we were near a freeze, I would agree, but it's good practice for the packager to learn these things :) | 06:15 |
RoAkSoAx | micahg: the source format is 3.0 quilt, it doesn't need quilt as a dependency :) | 06:17 |
micahg | RoAkSoAx: right, but it had one before :) | 06:18 |
micahg | also, apparently the depends list was short, his second version has a lot more | 06:19 |
RoAkSoAx | micahg: i guess the weird thing is that I dind't see all those warnings that were showed to you :S | 06:21 |
micahg | RoAkSoAx: I have an alias called super_lintian that I run for new packages: lintian -iIEv --pedantic | 06:22 |
micahg | I run it on the source and binary packages | 06:22 |
RoAkSoAx | micahg: k, will recheck that tomorrow | 06:23 |
micahg | RoAkSoAx: could you get it to build in a clean env on i386 oneiric? | 06:23 |
micahg | that was the one thing troubling me, I got it to build on my amd64 machine, but in my oneiric i386 sbuild I get JavaVM initialization errors | 06:23 |
RoAkSoAx | micahg: yeah it was working fine for me | 06:28 |
micahg | k, I figured as much | 06:28 |
RoAkSoAx | micahg: i'll recheck everything tomorrow on clean pbuilders | 06:28 |
micahg | RoAkSoAx: k, ACK from me once it has README.source | 06:28 |
RoAkSoAx | micahg: thanks for reviweing it btw... :) | 06:28 |
micahg | RoAkSoAx: no problem | 06:29 |
micahg | RoAkSoAx: and sorry, I should have subscribed you to the bug so you knew what was going on | 06:31 |
RoAkSoAx | micahg: no worries :) | 06:32 |
RoAkSoAx | micahg: i was just surprised of all those lintian warnings that you saw which i didn't | 06:33 |
micahg | I also ran it with oneiric's lintian since that's where I built it, normally would've been on natty | 06:34 |
RoAkSoAx | micahg: maybe that's the difference cause I did it in natty | 06:35 |
RoAkSoAx | my external screens are kind amessed up with oneiric | 06:35 |
RoAkSoAx | since I work from external monitors | 06:36 |
micahg | ah, I'm on laptops at the moment | 06:36 |
RoAkSoAx | micahg: yeah me too, one running natty and one oneiric | 06:36 |
RoAkSoAx | and a thjird one as a oneiric home server | 06:36 |
micahg | yep, that's what I have | 06:36 |
RoAkSoAx | I usually work remotely since the oneiric one external display ability is broekn | 06:37 |
RoAkSoAx | micahg: but anyways, im off to bed | 06:39 |
RoAkSoAx | have a good one | 06:39 |
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diwic | doko_, apw asked me to ping you about bug 789031 | 08:33 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 789031 in gcc-4.5 (Ubuntu) "Built-in ASM constraint "rm" does not work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/789031 | 08:33 |
apw | doko_, i have this odd feeling we've seen this either a fix in the kernel to work round it, or i saw it on a gcc upload, can you remember | 08:34 |
apw | diwic, does the code work ok on the 4.6 compiler ? | 08:34 |
diwic | apw, let me check | 08:34 |
diwic | hmm, 4.6 does not ship with natty it seems | 08:35 |
apw | diwic, sadly not, there are onieiric chroots on tangerine | 08:35 |
diwic | apw, perhaps you could give it a shot quicker than I, there is a test.c in the bug | 08:36 |
apw | diwic, i cannot trigger the error on any version of the compiler right now | 08:41 |
apw | diwic, can you confirm you gcc-4.5 version for me ? | 08:43 |
apw | Package: gcc 4:4.5.2-1ubuntu3 | 08:43 |
diwic | apw, really? It triggers here with gcc 4.5.2-8ubuntu4 | 08:43 |
apw | diwic, 64 or 32 bit ? | 08:44 |
diwic | 32 bit | 08:44 |
diwic | works fine on amd64 | 08:44 |
apw | diwic, better, ok | 08:44 |
diwic | at least this example (amd64 has more registers) | 08:44 |
diwic | apw, yeah, that's the same package version as I have here | 08:45 |
apw | diwic, ok 4.6 shows the same behaviour | 08:45 |
diwic | ok | 08:46 |
apw | diwic, and gcc-4.4 in lucid too | 08:47 |
diwic | seems doko_ is not around atm | 08:48 |
diwic | doko_, actually in pulseaudio the problem was worse, it allocated one "r" and one "rm" into the same register, so it compiled it but generated faulty code :-( | 08:49 |
diwic | apw, ok but I guess I've done what I can now? Just want to make sure that someone looks at the bug at some not too distant point in the future | 08:52 |
apw | diwic, yep | 08:52 |
dholbach | good morning | 08:54 |
dholbach | RoAkSoAx, Happy Birthday! :) | 08:56 |
seb128 | slangasek, hi, could you copy the xerror message you get with that g-s-d issue? | 09:16 |
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seb128 | oh, it's in the gtk bug you opened yesterday | 09:17 |
ev | maco: sure thing, on it now | 09:49 |
ev | maco: done. It'll go out with the next ubiqutiy | 09:54 |
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brendand_ | does anyone know what NetworkManager state 'locally connected' 50 means | 11:25 |
brendand_ | i guessed at local ip available but no global ip | 11:25 |
brendand_ | but if i connect to my router when it has no internet connection i still get 70 back | 11:25 |
brendand_ | global connection | 11:25 |
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doko | jhunt_: libnih now built on armel. not sure if you want to build upstart with standard compiler flags too | 12:39 |
* ogra_ hugs doko for that | 12:50 | |
mr_pouit | cjwatson: looking at *.manifest files, xfce packages are here, so I guess your fix worked. Thanks! | 13:08 |
aditya | hi there | 13:09 |
aditya | e | 13:09 |
aditya | unity geeks ther? | 13:09 |
abhinav- | aditya: may be #ayatana will be a better place | 13:12 |
aditya | no problems | 13:12 |
aditya | thanx | 13:13 |
cjwatson | mr_pouit: good good | 13:21 |
aditya | any new issues guys? | 13:23 |
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abhinav- | aditya: what are you looking for ? | 13:27 |
aditya | am new to this group , just want to get into ubuntu development | 13:28 |
abhinav- | ah ok. Welcome :) | 13:28 |
aditya | thanks | 13:29 |
aditya | any group talks going on presently? | 13:29 |
abhinav- | aditya: there will be Ubuntu Developer Week in July, that is very helpful for new comers to Ubuntu development | 13:30 |
aditya | ok | 13:30 |
aditya | are you abhinav upadhyay by any chance? | 13:31 |
abhinav- | yes | 13:31 |
aditya | k | 13:31 |
abhinav- | aditya: you might want to go through this to set up your development environment. dholbach even did a video on ustream for this, you may search for it. It's a good place to start with | 13:35 |
abhinav- | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/devweek1007/GetStarted | 13:36 |
aditya | thanx | 13:36 |
vish | !development | aditya | 13:37 |
ubottu | aditya: Interested in becoming an Ubuntu Developer? Get started here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | 13:37 |
smoser | micahg, i'll add a README.source file. | 13:37 |
aditya | thanx ubottu | 13:38 |
smoser | if you, or anyone, can write a uscan that parses output of http://s3.amazonaws.com/rds-downloads/ that would be what needs to be done. | 13:38 |
smoser | i think the issue i ran into before was that there are no line breaks. | 13:39 |
bdrung | whom should i ask to get a proposed package accepted? | 13:41 |
Laney | how long has it been? | 13:42 |
persia | smoser: You could create a small AWS service that did XSLT on that to make it standard uscan input format :) | 13:42 |
bdrung | Laney: a few days | 13:42 |
bdrung | two to be precise | 13:43 |
smoser | indeed. i would think i could probably add support to uscan, but it would be very limited in use (other than the half a dozen or so packages from amazon that do this). | 13:43 |
* mok0 is damned annoyed that installing drupal6 forces mysql to be installed. I use postgresql | 13:44 | |
persia | For sourceforge, I think the conclusion was that it was easier to create a translation service than to add parsing to uscan, but you may find the converse to be true. | 13:45 |
doko | jamespage: just to clarify, were the fop dependencies included in the MIR review? | 13:55 |
seb128 | cjwatson, bug #797669, I'm just pointing it in case you didn't notice it, should probably be milestoned for the next alpha? | 14:01 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 797669 in casper (Ubuntu Oneiric) "No autologin on live session with lightdm" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/797669 | 14:01 |
jamespage | doko: I've not reviewed the additional dependencies added to the MIR since SpamapS raised the original bug report | 14:13 |
jamespage | thats batik, libsaxon-java and xmlgraphics-commons | 14:14 |
doko | yes, set to incomplete for now | 14:15 |
cjwatson | seb128: ok | 14:23 |
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ntr0py | I am trying to get proftpd to authenticate users against a postgresql db and i am missing "mod_sql_passwd.c" for "SQLPasswordEngine" directive... Does somebody know where it did go? | 14:33 |
directhex | ntr0py, you have proftpd-mod-pgsql installed? | 14:34 |
ntr0py | yes | 14:35 |
directhex | mod_sql_passwd.so is in the proftpd-basic package | 14:36 |
ntr0py | directhex: for maverick it is not in there... | 14:38 |
directhex | this isn't an end-user support channel, and maverick isn't really something anyone's thinking about anymore in development terms | 14:39 |
ntr0py | directhex: ok thanks i found it in natty package, i will try to compile it for maverick | 14:40 |
maco | ev: thanks | 14:49 |
RoAkSoAx | dholbach thank you!!! | 14:49 |
bdrung | cjwatson: can you have a look at the vlc sru upload? | 14:52 |
bdrung | cjwatson: and set this branch to merged: https://code.launchpad.net/~druke/ubuntu/natty/g15daemon/bug-657598/+merge/64168 ? | 14:52 |
ubottu | Ubuntu bug 64168 in kdebase (Ubuntu) "KDE clipboard used with Openoffice does not support Umlauts" [Low,Fix released] | 14:52 |
cjwatson | both will have to wait until this CD has synced so I have bearable bandwidth again | 14:53 |
cjwatson | I'm doing minimal-bandwidth things in the meantime ... | 14:54 |
bdrung | cjwatson: even for setting a merge proposal status? | 14:54 |
cjwatson | bdrung: well, the page ain't loading, so apparently so | 15:02 |
goof2092 | pitti: when you have the please review Language Pack bug report #796591 for Bemba | 15:03 |
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mterry | poolie, heyo, are you still involved with librsync at all? | 15:15 |
pitti | hello goof2092 | 15:16 |
pitti | goof2092: I replied in the bug | 15:18 |
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jcastro | ev: any chance you have screenshots the screens that come after each of the choices in the installer? Basically a step by step for each available choice a user can pic? | 15:37 |
mterry | barry, to port a package to dh_python2, all packages that put files into the same toplevel module need to be ported at the same time? | 16:04 |
barry | mterry: yep, all subpackages of the same namespace package must be ported at the same time. e.g. all lazr.* or zope.* | 16:05 |
mterry | barry, ok. Then I need to do futz with the dependencies to make sure that a user doesn't only get half the upgrade? | 16:06 |
barry | mterry: good question. i think if you upload all the ported packages at the same time, there'll be only a small window where they could get screwed, which probably isn't enough to worry about. but maybe i'm missing something | 16:07 |
seb128 | barry, yeah, you miss partial upgrades | 16:07 |
mterry | seb128, you're saying we don't worry about those? | 16:07 |
seb128 | like users doing an apt-get install binary and not a dist-upgrade | 16:07 |
barry | seb128: ah, yeah thanks | 16:08 |
seb128 | mterry, I'm not saying that ;-) | 16:08 |
barry | seb128: how do you suggest we handle these upgrade dependencies? | 16:08 |
seb128 | well ideally you would Breaks:.... on all the things you actually break | 16:08 |
mterry | seb128, that sounds more like you :) | 16:08 |
seb128 | not sure how practical it is for that python transition | 16:09 |
barry | mterry: i guess it's a good question to ask on ubuntu-devel and see what people think. i'm working on a critical bug atm so don't have time to do that. could you? | 16:09 |
mterry | barry, sure | 16:10 |
barry | mterry: thanks! | 16:10 |
mterry | doko, the ubuntuone python package set is a big, lockstep upgrade to dh_python2. How about I trade you 2 other packages for ubuntuone-couch? :) | 16:18 |
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doko | mterry: I don't mind if it's now. just be aware that it stays on your radar | 16:25 |
doko | barry, seb128: well, we don't support partial upgrades, or did that change? | 16:26 |
seb128 | I don't know if we have an official position on that | 16:26 |
seb128 | I usually try to get things to not break in partial upgrades for desktop but I'm not sure if we say that we support those or not | 16:27 |
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cjwatson | doko: I've never heard any official statement that we don't support partial upgrades. IMO it's silly *not* to support partial upgrades to at least some extent because somebody's bound to run into it and file a bug and why wouldn't we want to avoid that? | 16:44 |
cjwatson | not supporting systems that are half karmic and half maverick or something is a different matter, but that's a much weaker statement | 16:45 |
cjwatson | bdrung: marked that g15daemon branch as merged now | 16:46 |
bdrung | thanks | 16:46 |
mterry | pitti, thanks for the awesome dh_python2 tip | 16:46 |
cjwatson | bdrung: looks like somebody dealt with the vlc SRUs? | 16:46 |
pitti | mterry: glad that I could recycle it :) | 16:46 |
bdrung | cjwatson: no, i was talking about 1.1.9-1ubuntu1.2 | 16:48 |
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cjwatson | bdrung: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html isn't showing any vlc package in -proposed and nothing in any of the upload queues, so you're going to need to give me more detail if you want me to do something, I think | 16:51 |
cjwatson | pitti: I'm reviewing the status of the grub2/lupin SRUs | 16:52 |
bdrung | cjwatson: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text= | 16:52 |
cjwatson | pitti: bug 610898 has now been verified on both lucid and maverick, and I've marked it v-done | 16:53 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 610898 in Wubi "grub-pc upgrade renders computer unbootable when Wubi is installed to partition other than Windows" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/610898 | 16:53 |
cjwatson | pitti: I think the testing there is almost certainly sufficient to cover bug 695290 and bug 742967 as well; do you agree? | 16:53 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 695290 in grub2 (Ubuntu Maverick) "10_lupin case problem with ntfs UUIDs" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/695290 | 16:53 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 742967 in Wubi "Wubi grub prompt on install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/742967 | 16:53 |
cjwatson | pitti: then we can unblock bug 687501 and we're good to go | 16:54 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 687501 in OEM Priority Project "when installer is multipath aware, grub fails to install" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/687501 | 16:54 |
pitti | cjwatson: yes, for regression testing that's certainly more than we usually get, so I'm fine with moving this to -updates | 16:56 |
cjwatson | excellent, I'll mark those bugs then | 16:57 |
cjwatson | lupin has to move at the same time | 16:57 |
cjwatson | bdrung: looking now, then | 17:00 |
cyrildz | hi all | 17:01 |
cyrildz | I'm new here | 17:01 |
cyrildz | I'm an ubuntu user and I want to start programming | 17:01 |
cyrildz | I don't know where nor how to start | 17:02 |
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cyrildz | If I am on the wrong place , please let me know | 17:02 |
cyrildz | I 'm very interested in C/C++ | 17:03 |
cjwatson | bdrung: OK, approved, thanks | 17:04 |
cyrildz | I have learnt stuff on C/C++ , I like the Object Oriented approche of C++ and now I want to jump ahead a do something real | 17:04 |
cyrildz | a bit of help to where to look would be welcome | 17:05 |
cjwatson | cyrildz: this isn't really a help-you-get-started-programming channel - perhaps try #ubuntu-app-devel, or a specialist C or C++ channel (though I can't recommend one)? | 17:07 |
cyrildz | thanks , I will have a look a this | 17:08 |
bdrung | cjwatson: thanks | 17:10 |
jibel | cjwatson, latest alternate build failed to install see bug 798306. I filed it against debian-installer but from the error it looks more like debconf. It is reproducible. | 17:20 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 798306 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "unable to install the selected kernel with oneiric-alternate-i386 20110616.1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/798306 | 17:20 |
smoser | persia, https://code.launchpad.net/~smoser/ubuntu/oneiric/devscripts/lp-798293/+merge/64857 is to add S3 bucket listing support to uscan | 17:21 |
cjwatson | jibel: thanks, I'll have a look. I think I probably need to seed debconf-i18n | 17:21 |
persia | smoser, Heh. That was fast. Nice! | 17:21 |
Daviey | ls | 17:40 |
Quintasan | :D | 17:40 |
* Quintasan does that way too often | 17:41 | |
jdstrand | Daviey: fyi, I am finalizing the patch to fix bug #795800. I should be uploading it to Ubuntu today (tomorrow at the latest) as well as submitting the patch upstream | 18:23 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 795800 in libvirt (Ubuntu Oneiric) "virsh save fails on oneiric when the apparmor security driver is enabled" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/795800 | 18:23 |
Daviey | jdstrand: Ah super.. I understand zul was looking at the libvirt merge, but wanted you to peer review it? :) | 18:24 |
jdstrand | Daviey: last I heard, I reviewed hallyn's merge, uploaded it and then zul was asked to test said merge against Ubuntu Cloud | 18:25 |
zul | jdstrand: yeah there is a newer version in debian now though | 18:26 |
jdstrand | Daviey: if he is doing an 0.9.2 merge, I can review it and add my patch to fix the bug to it during the review | 18:26 |
Daviey | sounds like a plan! | 18:26 |
zul | jdstrand: ill talk about it to you later, im kind of in a buffer overflow situation right now :) | 18:26 |
* Daviey cycles zul | 18:26 | |
jdstrand | zul: it is unlikely I could put real review time in until monday anyway, so no worries | 18:27 |
zul | jdstrand: ack :) | 18:27 |
Daviey | peer reviews rock my world. | 18:27 |
jdstrand | I'll still get my upload in though | 18:27 |
micahg | jdstrand: is there a reason why linux-any is dropped from the merge? AFAIK launchpad understands that now | 18:35 |
jdstrand | micahg: all I see in the merge from hallyn is 'remove [linux-any] from all dependencies' | 18:50 |
jdstrand | zul: fyi ^ | 18:50 |
zul | no idea | 18:50 |
pitti | cjwatson, kees, sabdfl, Keybuk: TB meeting reminder in 10 mins | 18:51 |
micahg | jdstrand: right, was just wondering if you knew why, I guess I should talk to hallyn about it | 18:51 |
jdstrand | zul: no I meant you may want to leave it in next time :) | 18:52 |
zul | jdstrand: heh ok | 18:52 |
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micahg | zul: another thing to keep in mind is that we still have python2.6 in oneiric, even if not though, if the python-dev-all package doesn't have a python version, I don't think you need to worry about X-Python-Version being older | 18:54 |
hrw | I have small C code which compiles on amd64 but fails on armel | 19:17 |
ev | jcastro: Apols, somehow I didn't see your message until now | 19:24 |
jcastro | no worries, it's not urgent or anything | 19:24 |
ev | I don't have up to date ones, sadly. There are olds ones on people.c.c/~Evans | 19:24 |
ev | Evand | 19:24 |
ev | Damn iOS | 19:24 |
jcastro | ta, that should put me on the right track | 19:25 |
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jdstrand | zul: what is happening with libxen-dev-- has it been approved in the MIR? your libvirt upload won't build cause it isn't available | 20:14 |
zul | jdstrand: ill go check | 20:14 |
zul | jdstrand: MIR has been aproved | 20:17 |
zul | so i guess they need to be promoted | 20:17 |
jdstrand | zul: ok, then I'll promote it. what is the bug number? | 20:17 |
zul | 790854 | 20:18 |
jdstrand | zul: the bug states that the server team will do security support-- can Daviey or someone else comment in the bug that that will happen? | 20:20 |
zul | jdstrand: sure | 20:20 |
zul | Daviey: ^^^ | 20:20 |
jdstrand | support really means testing here, as I read it | 20:20 |
zul | jdstrand: but that will probably end being me anyways | 20:20 |
jdstrand | (like euca, iscsi, etc where we don't have the testing infrastructure for it) | 20:20 |
zul | jdstrand: wha? you guys dont want to use xen? :) | 20:21 |
bdmurray | slangasek: I've about 24 open bug reports where update-initramfs has failed due to lack of space and plan to open a new bug suggesting that update-initramfs should deal with this better (make the existing ones duplicates of that new one) and write a bug pattern to prevent further reports. Does that seem reasonable? | 20:30 |
* Daviey looks | 20:31 | |
* Daviey is not having with oneiric desktop atm | 20:32 | |
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Daviey | zul: is xenstore needed as a build dep? | 20:34 |
zul | Daviey: yeah it pulls it in when you install libxen-dev | 20:34 |
Daviey | ah | 20:34 |
* micahg thought libxenX was renamed libxenstoreX | 20:34 | |
nxvl | cjwatson: ping | 20:41 |
cjwatson | nxvl: yes? | 20:41 |
nxvl | cjwatson: did you have somewhere a magic regexp that will match a valid ubuntu version? | 20:42 |
cjwatson | nxvl: define "valid ubuntu version"? | 20:43 |
nxvl | cjwatson: 0.8.4-1ubuntu2stuff4 will facil | 20:43 |
nxvl | cjwatson: however 0.8.4-1ubuntu2 or 0.8.4-1 will pass | 20:44 |
cjwatson | I don't understand why the first should fail | 20:44 |
nxvl | cjwatson: because the use case i need, should fail | 20:44 |
cjwatson | I do not have a magic regexp that matches requirements I do not have. :-) | 20:44 |
nxvl | cjwatson: ok, thanks! | 20:44 |
cjwatson | from Ubuntu's point of view, valid version numbers are those defined in policy 5.6.12, and version numbers with the substring 'ubuntu' inhibit autosync from Debian; that'sal | 20:46 |
cjwatson | *that's all | 20:46 |
nxvl | cjwatson: that will help, you surely have that on a regexp in a script somewhere, right? | 20:48 |
cjwatson | buried in the archive somewhere, I can't remember when I last had to care | 20:50 |
Daviey | the secret sauce. :) | 20:50 |
cjwatson | re_valid_version = re.compile(r"^([0-9]+:)?[0-9A-Za-z\.\-\+~:]+$") | 20:50 |
cjwatson | says Launchpad | 20:50 |
nxvl | cjwatson: awesome!, thank you! | 20:52 |
cjwatson | (that's in lib/lp/archiveuploader/utils.py) | 20:52 |
slangasek | bdmurray: sounds great to me! | 20:53 |
* nxvl HUGS cjwatson | 20:53 | |
bdmurray | cjwatson: I found an announcement about not ps3 isos for natty was there a similar one for powerpc isos? | 20:57 |
cjwatson | powerpc ISOs were never stopped | 20:57 |
cjwatson | they weren't *released* because they didn't get tested, but the daily builds are still going | 20:57 |
bdmurray | ah, thanks! | 20:58 |
jdstrand | zul, Daviey: fyi, libxen-dev and libxenstore3.0 (and 'xen' source) have been promoted and I uploaded libvirt 0.9.1-1ubuntu4 | 21:00 |
zul | jdstrand: cool thanks | 21:00 |
jdstrand | zul: fyi, one of the two patches can be dropped in 0.9.2, but the other not until 0.9.3 (see the cahngelog) | 21:00 |
jdstrand | zul: ie, of the 2 I just uploaded | 21:01 |
zul | jdstrand: gotya | 21:01 |
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Daviey | jdstrand: rocking! | 21:15 |
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poolie | mterry, hi, i haven't touched librsync for a long time | 22:43 |
poolie | idon't know if it's very active at all | 22:44 |
mterry | poolie, that's what I've gathered. Last comment by an ex-maintainer was 2006 | 22:44 |
mterry | poolie, was in reference to a MIR (deja-dup->duplicity->librsync) | 22:45 |
mterry | poolie, seems stable, just unmaintained | 22:45 |
poolie | yeah, pretty much stable | 23:09 |
poolie | i'd kind oflike to do something on it | 23:09 |
poolie | i'm sure there is room for improvement, but not many bugs | 23:09 |
poolie | remarkably few actually | 23:09 |
bdmurray | slangasek: so there are a lot of dist-upgrades with this error too but update-manager has its own free space calculator for /boot. I think those should probably be a separate bug. Do you agree? | 23:29 |
slangasek | bdmurray: the two bugs being 1) poor error message when you're out of space, 2) update-manager's free space calculator needing help? | 23:32 |
bdmurray | slangasek: right - it looks to like update-manager just uses the following | 23:32 |
bdmurray | KERNEL_INITRD_SIZE = 19 * 1024 * 1024 | 23:33 |
bdmurray | 19 seems kind of random to me | 23:33 |
slangasek | heh, yes | 23:34 |
broder | i don't know... | 23:36 |
broder | ebroder@warwick:~$ ls -lh /boot/initrd.img-2.6.38-8-generic | awk '{print $5}' | 23:36 |
broder | 20M | 23:36 |
broder | though i've thrown a bunch of random crap into my initrd | 23:37 |
broder | looks like stock natty is 13M or so | 23:37 |
slangasek | well, a much better predictor would be to check the size of the initrd for the current kernel | 23:40 |
broder | yeah, sure. i was just surprised how close mine was to the magic number :) | 23:41 |
directhex | how frequent is the pull from debian unstable? | 23:49 |
cjwatson | daily | 23:49 |
cjwatson | assuming I'm around anyway | 23:50 |
cjwatson | (it's a cron.cjwatson kind of thing) | 23:50 |
cjwatson | why, are you looking for something in particular? | 23:50 |
directhex | cjwatson: i've been uploading fixes to sid which ought to also apply to the mono transition in oneiric | 23:51 |
directhex | i wondered what time the cronjob runs, so i can check the ben page for added green ticks | 23:51 |
cjwatson | right, it's not a cron job, it's "Colin usually runs this when he starts work in the morning" | 23:51 |
cjwatson | I can run it now if you'd like | 23:51 |
directhex | no, don't do it on my account. that's close enough to a number | 23:52 |
directhex | i'm busy migrating from ejabberd to prosody tomorrow anyway, hopefully it means i won't have time to look at non-work things in work hours | 23:52 |
cjwatson | actually, I think I'll do one now anyway - with the exception of powerpc, the buildds are fairly quiet and it's good to space things out so that they're more responsive when people need them | 23:53 |
cjwatson | typing screen commands into firefox is not helpful | 23:55 |
directhex | note to self: do packagecraft after less wine. | 23:57 |
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