[00:00] <SpamapS> Alan: ^5
[00:00] <Alan> SpamapS: :D
[00:01] <Alan> Note to others: if you enable IPv6, and you have a "hosts allow" restriction in your smb.conf, your clients might try and use IPv6 and act as if they've been denied access...
[00:01] <Alan> need to add the IPv6 prefix in !
[00:02] <SpamapS> Yeah thats the most common IPv6 fail
[00:06] <Alan> "that" being IPv4-based whitelists?
[00:50] <plm_> Hi all
[00:51] <warzauwynn> hello plm
[02:17] <RoyK> axisys: hi
[03:24] <twb> Due to the removal of CONFIG_NET_NS from the .32-32 kernel, I'm looking at enabling lucid-backports for its .37 (or whatever) kernel.
[03:25] <twb> Does anyone have a pinning config handy that'll allow the kernels from backports, but nothing else?
[03:25] <twb> I (obviously) don't want to upgrade EVERYTHING to the backports versions
[03:32] <Corey> twb: Take a look at the sample config on backports.org
[03:32] <Corey> It's the same in Ubuntu.
[03:36] <twb> Really?
[03:36] <twb> Because target release COMPLETELY fails on ubuntu
[03:37] <twb> Er, Apt::Default-Release
[03:38] <twb> I guess what I mean is that if you've seen it work reliably for you for years, that's great.  But if it's just "yeah that looks OK and it works at the moment", I can do that much verification myself.
[03:38] <ScottK> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports has an Ubuntu recommendation for pinning.
[03:54] <twb> ScottK: that doesn't appear to whitelist updates for the packages you ask for
[03:54] <ScottK> OK.
[03:54] <ScottK> Not sure for Lucid then.
[03:54] <twb> I can probably guess Package: linux-* with a normal priority (600?)
[03:54] <twb> ScottK: er, I mean that it has one stanza instead of two, not "I tested it and it failed"
[03:55] <ScottK> For Natty and later it automatically works the way you're asking for.  Manually install a package from backports and you get it as well as updates from backports, otherwise you just get the regular package.
[03:55] <ScottK> So for the next LTS this will be easy.
[03:56] <twb> Huh, interesting.  Do you have such a system you can show me the "apt-cache policy" output for?
[03:56] <twb> http://paste.debian.net/120015/ I think this is approximately what I want.
[03:56] <ScottK> I can, but I doubt it'll help you as it's not just using pinning.  There were apt changes too.
[03:56] <twb> Ah, OK
[03:56] <twb> Do you know if they are changes made in debian, or if they're ubuntu-specific?
[03:58] <ScottK> I know they were planned for Debian too.  I don't know if they've landed or not.
[03:58] <ScottK> Additionally they make stuff like dependency resolution when a package from experimental needs to get pulled in work right.
[04:01] <ScottK> Actually it does have pinning adjusted too.
[04:01] <twb> Yeah, I asked because I vaguely recall that getting better in sid in the last couple years
[04:02] <ScottK> http://paste.debian.net/120016/
[04:02] <twb> Hum.
[05:33] <twb> Lame, the .35 -virtual kernel wants wireless CRDA crap
[06:03] <twb> So I'm buying a four-port gigE PCI-E NIC
[06:03] <twb> Is e1000 support solid as at 2.6.32?
[06:03] <twb> (http://www.nextag.com/Intel-PRO-1000PT-4PORT-540119288/prices-html)
[06:10] <twb> kmuto.jp's HCL says
[06:10] <twb> PCI ID  Works?           Vendor                                  Device                          Driver      Kernel
[06:10] <twb> 808610bc Yes    Intel Corporation           82571EB Gigabit Ethernet Controller (Copper)       e1000e        v2.6.25-
[06:37] <overrider_> I am in need of this JDK i used under Suse Linux, which one is the Ubuntu equivalent package i can install via apt-get? jre-1_5_0_22-linux-i586.rpm
[06:38] <luite> do you need exactly that version?
[06:39] <overrider_> pretty much. Later versions seem to cause a few display issues with a custom software in use by a client.
[06:41] <luite> hmm, I don't know repositories with old jre packages. is that one provided by sun?
[06:42] <overrider_> i am thinking it may be this one http://java.sun.com/products/archive/j2se/5.0_22/index.html
[06:45] <twb> overrider_: JRE is not JDK
[06:46] <luite> overrider_: you can try to use alien to convert the rpm to deb and use dpkg -i to install it
[06:46] <luite> if that doesn't work, then try the run version
[06:47] <twb> If you are running a third-party package you are fucked, no matter how you do it
[06:47] <luite> which is just a shell script that installs it, without package management
[06:47] <twb> This is also the case on SUSE and RHEL, but there the distro packages are so crap that you often don't notice
[06:48] <twb> hardy has sun-java5 in multiverse, I would try that first
[08:13] <sabgenton> LTS is 	2.6.32
[08:14] <twb> lucid is
[08:14] <twb> hardy isn't EOLd yet
[08:15] <sabgenton> if I upgrade to 10.04.2 do I get a higher kernel option?
[08:15] <sabgenton> or is that the latest kernel avalible
[08:16] <twb> sabgenton: released versions are stable
[08:16] <twb> sabgenton: stable means they don't change
[08:16] <sabgenton> ok so kernels don't chage either
[08:17] <sabgenton> not apt-get ing
[08:17] <sabgenton> able
[08:17] <sabgenton> twb: so I need 11.04 for a new kernel ?
[08:18] <twb> sabgenton: there is a "backports" repo that contains choice bits of instability
[08:18] <twb> You could use that
[08:18] <twb> Migrating to a newer release would also work
[08:18] <sabgenton> ok spose the backports it easyer to try and revert
[09:05] <_ruben> weird .. got a box that refuses to boo from hdd (no os found), but using alternate cd and them "boot from first hdd" works just fine :S
[09:06] <twb> That's because grub is retarded
[09:07] <twb> You should put syslinux on your HDD, the same as on your CD
[09:07] <twb> http://paste.debian.net/120032/ <-- notes as at hardy.  It's pretty much all automated as at sid.
[09:24] <jeeves_moss> how can I find out WTF is going on with my bind server?  I can't get it to resolve my domain names, and I'm soooo lost
[09:25] <twb> Dunno, I run nsd3 instead
[09:25] <twb> Much less baroque
[09:27] <twb> After adding "AllowAgentForwarding no" to sshd_config and restarting sshd, "ssh -vA foo" does not indicate that agent forwarding is disabled.  How can I check?
[09:31] <jmarsden> twb: Try doing something that would auto-authenticate if you had agent forwarding... if it works, it is still forwarding.  So... set up an agent on your workstation, ssh -vA foo, then on that machine ssh -v someotherplace.com which your agent would grant you access to, and see what happens?
[09:32] <twb> It's OK, the problem was simply that if your .profile is smart enough to automatically start ssh-agent, that "hides" the one that was forwarded
[09:32] <twb> Confirmed wth "ssh-add -l"
[09:33] <jeeves_moss> twb, how can I find out why my BIND server isn't updating external DNS servers?  I can dig internally, and it resolved external domains from the local box, but it won't update upstream servers
[09:34] <twb> jeeves_moss: are you using bind as a resolver, or for serving your own zone(s)?
[09:34] <twb> It sounds like the latter
[09:34] <jmarsden> jeeves_moss: Sounds like it is not authoritative for the domains you want it to "update" ?
[09:34] <jeeves_moss> twb, yes.
[09:34] <twb> jeeves_moss: ok, does the internet actually check your machine for your zone?
[09:35] <jeeves_moss> everything was working well untill the my ISP switched us over to a block of addresses from a single IP.  and when I scan the "router's IP", the port scan shows port 53 is open and responding
[09:35] <twb> jeeves_moss: that is, is your bind's IP listed in the SOA (or NS, I guess) of the current version of that zone (or the glue in the parent zone)?
[09:35] <jeeves_moss> I host the root of the zone
[09:35] <twb> Maybe you're still NATting accidentally?
[09:36] <_ruben> grmbl .. both grub and extlinux now do the same: reboot right away before even showing anything :/
[09:36] <jeeves_moss> there are port forwards.  nothing internal changed on my network.  the only thing that changed was the ISP (going from a single static IP to a blockof 10)
[09:36] <twb> _ruben: wot?
[09:36] <twb> _ruben: that is not normal, paste your syslinux.cfg
[09:37] <twb> If the disk is partitioned, did you install mbr.bin in the MBR, and did you flag the /boot partition (and ONLY it) as bootable?
[09:37] <twb> (extlinux installs into the PBR)
[09:38] <_ruben> yes to all, but will double check .. unless extlinux doesn't like root-on-lvm like lilo
[09:39] <_ruben> hmm .. boot from first hdd (alt cd) now does show extlinux kciking in
[09:39] <jeeves_moss> twb, any other ideas?
[09:40] <twb> _ruben: extlinux doesn't know or care about the root filesystem
[09:40] <_ruben> k
[09:41] <twb> _ruben: it only cares about /boot (at least, as long as you have a ramdisk)
[09:42] <_ruben> http://pastebin.com/FZf3wwQb
[09:42] <_ruben> took some effort to make that paste :)
[09:43] <twb> And you did "extlinux --install /boot" ?  Is /boot a separate filesystem?  If so, do the symlinks vmlinuz and initrd.img exist in *it*, or in the root filesystem?
[09:44] <_ruben> yes, yes, in /boot
[09:44] <twb> Not sure then
[09:44] <twb> If you take quiet and PROMPT 0 out will help
[09:45] <twb> Oh, and "default menu.c32" is wrong
[09:46] <_ruben> it's what your paste says too
[09:46] <_ruben> or should lucid do UI already too ?
[09:46] <twb> Oh, actually I dunno about lucid
[09:46] <twb> The change was in 4.0 IIRC
[09:47] <twb> That happened way before lucid, but because of stupidness, ubuntu continued to run 3.7x for ages
[09:47] <_ruben> this is syslinux 3.63
[09:47] <twb> Yuk
[09:48] <twb> Unfortunately I don't have a system like that.  I have a router running lucid with no separate /boot, but running 4.x
[09:48] <twb> And I have my netboot with a separate /boot, but it's running 4.x too.
[09:48] <twb> *my netbook
[09:49] <twb> You can pretty much just grab syslinux from anywhere, the only real caveat is that menu.c32 and syslinux must be the same major version
[09:49] <twb> Once it's installed you never have to run it again, either
[09:50] <_ruben> seems to me the only problem is the mbr, as chainloading through cd does work
[09:50] <twb> mbr should be static mbr.bin
[09:50] <twb> Strictly speaking that isn't even syslinux
[09:54] <_ruben> now instad of just "DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT..." i get a "missing oepration system" prior to it .. sigh
[09:56] <_ruben> guess i'll have to write instructions for remote hands on how to boot this thing when a reboot is required :/
[09:56] <_ruben> running out of time to fix this here onsit
[09:56] <_ruben> e
[09:57] <twb> You could just make a USB key that defaults to chainloading
[09:57] <twb> So most of the time a reboot won't require remote hands
[09:57] <twb> (I mean, I would've liked to fix your problem properly, but I think you're right to give up at this point.)
[09:57] <_ruben> yeah, thought of that too, but dont have a spare usb stick with me :)
[09:58] <twb> _ruben: could do a CD, tho that's a PITA
[09:58] <_ruben> i'd have to take this alt cd iso, alter its config, bun it again .. dont ahve to the time for that now :/
[10:14] <speakman> Hi folks! I'm trying to log MCE's but no matter what I do none of the failures are logged.
[10:17] <RoyK> speakman: use syslog and set it to report errors to a remote host
[10:18] <RoyK> speakman: that way, if an MCE happens, and the machine for some reason can't write to disk, you should find the info on the remote syslog machine
[10:21] <speakman> I've set up netconsole to another machine, but it does not recieve the actual error
[10:24] <speakman> the mcelog --daemon doesn't start at boot either
[10:26] <speakman> should it run as trigger or daemon?
[10:32] <twb> speakman: does your system generate MCEs?
[10:32] <twb> speakman: I looked into it for mine, and AMD64 boxes don't generate MCE or something
[10:32] <twb> I can't remember the details
[10:33] <speakman> twb: it does. I've been able to catch some of them before through netconsole
[10:33] <twb> OK
[10:34] <twb> So netconsole is working enough for you to get other (non-MCE) output?
[10:34] <speakman> yep
[10:34] <speakman> and earlier on it did report MCE's as well
[10:34] <twb> Not sure what else you can do, then
[10:35] <speakman> I've upgraded  mcelog from upstream now
[10:35] <speakman> but what "cpu type" to use for Xeon W3680?
[10:35] <speakman> Valid CPUs: generic p6old core2 k8 p4 dunnington xeon74xx xeon7400 xeon5500 xeon5200 xeon5000 xeon5100 xeon3100 xeon3200 core_i7 core_i5 core_i3 nehalem westmere xeon71xx xeon7100 tulsa intel xeon75xx xeon7500 xeon7200 xeon7100 sandybridge sandybridge-ep
[10:35] <RoyK> speakman: have you configured mcelog to do syslogging?
[10:35] <twb> speakman: /proc/cpuinfo?
[10:36] <twb> Is there a README.Debian?
[10:37] <speakman> README.Debian don't say very much
[10:37] <speakman> RoyK: Not sure - how do I check?
[10:38] <RoyK> speakman: in /etc/mcelog/mcelog.conf, is syslog = yes?
[10:39] <RoyK> IIRC the default is no
[10:39] <twb> syslog's only going to go out via UDP anyway
[10:39] <twb> And it requires more userspace (i.e. any) than netconsole
[10:40] <twb> If the system is frying before netconsole, I don't see how he's gonna catch it any other way
[10:40] <RoyK> true - it's handy, though
[10:40] <speakman> I've set up /etc/mcelog/mcelog.conf now
[10:41] <speakman> Havn't even seen it before - was it there all the time?
[10:41] <speakman> [ 1045.753011] [Hardware Error]: No human readable MCE decoding support on this CPU type.
[10:41] <speakman> [ 1045.753020] [Hardware Error]: Run the message through 'mcelog --ascii' to decode.
[10:41] <speakman> [ 1045.753028] [Hardware Error]: Machine check events logged
[10:41] <RoyK> speakman: and started mcelog?
[10:41] <RoyK> hm...
[10:41] <speakman> Jun 16 11:40:04 sylpheed mcelog: failed to prefill DIMM database from DMI data
[10:41] <speakman> Jun 16 11:40:04 sylpheed mcelog: Kernel does not support page offline interface
[10:42] <RoyK> !pastebin
[10:42] <speakman> sorry
[10:43] <speakman> Jun 16 11:42:00 192.168.0.103 mcelog: Cannot open logfile /var/log/mcelog: Permission denied
[10:43] <speakman> it's running as root...
[10:43] <RoyK> speakman: whoops - can you touch that file manually?
[10:44] <RoyK> anyway - that shouldn't matter if using syslog
[10:44] <speakman> made it world writable
[10:44] <speakman> I think I just catched something; w8
[10:44] <twb> apparmor?
[10:44] <speakman> http://pastebin.com/UUzc9EFX
[10:45] <speakman> that's through netconsole ;)
[10:45] <RoyK> ...or caught :P
[10:45] <twb> speakman: time to buy a new box
[10:45] <speakman> twb: the problem is, it's completely new :(
[10:46] <RoyK> speakman: run memtest86+
[10:46] <twb> Time to buy a new box with the refund money
[10:46] <speakman> w3680, 24GB Kingston ECC 1333MHz
[10:46] <twb> Nice, ECC
[10:46] <speakman> RoyK: I've been doing it for a couple of hours, but no errors found
[10:46] <twb> Don't see that much in my market segment :-(
[10:46]  * twb home time
[10:46] <speakman> RoyK: it went through one full cycle
[10:46] <RoyK> speakman: I'd return the mobo with that error report
[10:47] <RoyK> MCA: MEMORY CONTROLLER RD_CHANNELunspecified_ERR <--- != good
[10:47] <speakman> RoyK: the mobo and memory is deveilvered from the same supplier
[10:47] <RoyK> speakman: well, return it
[10:47] <RoyK> get something that works (tm)
[10:47] <speakman> RoyK: I could easily get that changed, but don't know if they will replace both of it?
[10:48] <speakman> it's 6 modules of 4GB ram...
[10:48] <RoyK> my guess is it's the mobo
[10:48] <speakman> ok
[10:48] <speakman> that's the most non-pro thing I've got
[10:48] <speakman> Asus Revolution
[10:48] <RoyK> if it was a single memory module, you should have gotten an ECC error
[10:48] <speakman> P6T6 WS Revolution
[10:48] <RoyK> not a memory controller error
[10:48] <speakman> RoyK: pint!
[10:48] <speakman> point even ;D
[10:49] <RoyK> that is, isn't the memory controller in the cpu on xeons?
[10:49] <jamespage> Daviey: around?
[10:49] <speakman> No idea?
[10:49]  * RoyK would rather take a pint
[10:49] <RoyK> speakman: on Xeon and Opteron, it is, on i[357], it's on the mobo
[10:49] <Daviey> jamespage: always.
[10:50] <RoyK> speakman: meaning, on Intel, you'll need a Xeon to use ECC (i[357] doesn't support ECC)
[10:50] <speakman> RoyK: that's correct. I'm on Xeon w3680
[10:50] <speakman> http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=47917
[10:51] <jamespage> Daviey: coolio - so I have a merge proposal that has stalled - its to support MIR requirements for the version of erlang in oneiric
[10:51] <RoyK> possibly the CPU, then - if it's a good supplier, they may take both the mobo and cpu in return
[10:51] <cemc> hi. is there an mxtoolbox-style script/tool that I can install on ubuntu and check if my ip address is in a RBL (periodically from cron for example) ?
[10:51] <jamespage> fancy taking a look?
[10:52] <speakman> RoyK: the CPU is from another supplier. The other one (where I got the rest of the computer) didn't stock it.
[10:53] <RoyK> speakman: it can be either cpu or mobo, but my guess is the cpu, but then, don't sue me if I'm wrong :P
[10:53] <RoyK> that is, just return both and complain there's an error
[10:53] <RoyK> :)
[10:54] <RoyK> give them the MCE log and they'll probably take it as an answer to whatever error - lol
[10:54] <speakman> The problem is I need my computer.. :D
[10:55] <RoyK> imho you don't really need a broken computer...
[10:55] <Daviey> jamespage: url?
[10:55] <speakman> RoyK: that's one good ho...
[10:56] <RoyK> I had a freak MCE error - first we replaced the memory - still problems - then the CPUs - still issues - then the supplier replaced the whole box :)
[10:57] <RoyK> problem solved ...
[10:57]  * RoyK likes supermicro
[10:57] <jamespage> Daviey: https://code.launchpad.net/~james-page/ubuntu/oneiric/fop/mir/+merge/63231
[10:58] <jamespage> the original idea was to wait for fop 1.0 from debian; however it now has a serious bug raised against it (the one I raised originally - see the bug report)
[11:00] <Daviey> jamespage: ta
[11:02] <Daviey> jamespage: Is the new patch all your own work?
[11:04] <jamespage> Daviey: yes - and its throwaway once we move to 1.0
[11:09] <Daviey> jamespage: ok, thanks
[11:16] <Daviey> jamespage: Are you MIR'ing it's deps aswell?
[11:17] <Daviey> jamespage: libbatik-java,libxmlgraphics-commons-java, libxml-commons-external-java, libsaxon-java
[11:17] <jamespage> Daviey: all of the required deps are in the MIR bug 778216
[11:18] <Daviey> so they are
[11:18] <Daviey> :)
[11:18] <jamespage> not sure about libsaxon-java - I think that is in main already
[11:18] <jamespage> this merge prepares fop ready for MIR review
[11:18] <Daviey> jamespage: libsaxon-java binary and source package is in universe
[11:19]  * jamespage goes to look
[11:19] <Daviey> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libsaxon-java
[11:24] <jamespage> Daviey: good spot - I'd missed that one (and thanks for introducing me to check-mir :-))
[11:24] <jamespage> I'll add it to the bug
[11:25] <LinSkyrate> no java support in firefox.. howto install that? ive installed openjdk but firefox xomplains still
[11:25] <LinSkyrate> ohh thats a new word
[11:30] <Daviey> jamespage: :)
[11:30] <jamespage> Daviey: np - thanks for sponsoring that upload
[11:31] <Daviey> jamespage: I'm getting bored sponsoring your stuff.  You need that upload foo.
[11:31] <Daviey> :)
[11:31] <jamespage> fingers crossed....
[11:32] <jamespage> LinSkyrate: hey - you might want to ask that question in #ubuntu
[11:32] <jamespage> bah - he's gone
[11:32] <Daviey> jamespage: start putting in some eastereggs to see if your sponsors are trusting you, or sponsoring blind :)
[11:32] <jamespage> that would just be evil....
[11:32] <Daviey> heh
[12:25] <speakman> RoyK: got some new catches in /var/log/mcelog finally! http://paste.ubuntu.com/627909/
[12:28] <speakman> RoyK: it's always DIMM ID 1
[13:06] <soren> Daviey: openvswitch doesn't work with linux 3.0?
[13:06] <Daviey> soren: doesn't build.
[13:06] <soren> due to build system things (like stuff depending on a set number of elements to the version string) or something else?
[13:06] <Daviey> soren: build process does a check to see if kernel == 2.6
[13:06] <soren> Ah.
[13:07] <soren> Ok.
[13:07] <soren> Good.
[13:07] <Daviey> soren: I am so glad we are on 3.0
[13:07] <Daviey> Have you felt the speed of the thing?
[13:07] <Daviey> So many exciting improvements.
[13:07] <soren> It's way faster because it's not wasting time keeping track of its microversion.
[13:08] <Daviey> heh
[13:09] <ogra_> Daviey, wait for the 3.0GTS then !
[13:09] <soren> I don't mind the change, really. It's about time and the timing was very much in our favour (so early in the dev cycle).
[13:19] <Daviey> soren: yah
[14:07] <Daviey> ogra_: I have go-faster stripes.
[14:09] <Daviey> RAID-0
[14:14] <cloakable> RAID-0, for how much data you'll get back if one drive fails x3
[14:15] <patdk-wk> heh?
[14:15] <patdk-wk> if one drive fails, your unlikely to get any data back
[14:15] <patdk-wk> unless you recover that failed drive
[14:17] <ppetraki> cloakable, yeah, you're data is all gone, sorry
[14:18] <cloakable> Heh
[14:18] <cloakable> No, I use 5 :)
[14:18] <cloakable> Talking about Daviey
[14:18] <patdk-wk> I am using raid0 also
[14:18] <patdk-wk> I could care less if I never recover any data
[14:19] <cloakable> I keep stuff on there I'd rather not spend time re-ripping
[14:21] <Daviey> cloakable: It was a pun...
[14:21] <cloakable> Heh :P
[14:32] <ntr0py> I am trying to get proftpd to authenticate users against a postgresql db and i am missing "mod_sql_passwd.c" for "SQLPasswordEngine" directive... Does somebody know where it did go?
[14:42] <slyboots_>  
[15:09] <noecc> if a user is created via adduser --system --disabled-password --shell /bin/sh should this user be able to login via ssh?
[15:58] <pythonirc101> Is anyone sharing machine storage space redundantly here on ubuntu servers? I've looking into lustre, hdfs, pvfs, mogilefs and few others, but would like to hear from someone who has actually deployed/used a shared storage system.
[16:05] <ravachol> in the process of setting up vhosts for my websites on 10.04 want them to be found at /home/usr/public_html how do i link a user to this
[16:24] <cloakable> point a vhost at that directory? o.o
[16:25] <cloakable> You're being rather vague
[16:26] <ravachol> so if i create a user i can then point say blah.com to that user?
[16:27] <ravachol> via  creating the site documentroot in /etc/apache2/sites-available
[16:29] <ravachol> sry yes bit vague always used cpanel setup before
[16:30] <Pici> Hrm.  tasksel isn't installed by default anymore? Even on server installs?
[16:59] <nxvl> Daviey, zul: just uploaded augeas .8.1-2 i think you can sync now
[16:59] <zul> nxvl: cool
[17:14] <RoAkSoAx> nxvl: are you a DD already or DM?
[17:33] <Daviey> nxvl: What was the issue from yesterday?
[17:37] <nxvl> RoAkSoAx: DM
[17:37] <nxvl> Daviey: my VM i assume
[17:37] <nxvl> Daviey: on the chroot it builded
[17:37] <nxvl> Daviey: REALLY weird
[17:38] <Daviey> Coolio
[17:38] <RoAkSoAx> nxvl: cool
[17:38] <RoAkSoAx> nxvl: and where ytou using sbuild?
[17:38] <RoAkSoAx> i've seen that before
[17:38] <RoAkSoAx> not building there but building in pbuilders
[17:39] <nxvl> RoAkSoAx: on sbuild worked, on sid VM didn't
[17:42] <SpamapS> jamespage: ping!
[17:42] <jamespage> SpamapS: pong
[17:43] <jamespage> SpamapS: wassup?
[17:45] <SpamapS> jamespage: So, Zookeeper needs a maintainer..
[17:45] <SpamapS> jamespage: You seem to have a good working relationship with the debian-java team..
[17:45] <jamespage> SpamapS: it most certainly does; guess you have been watching the thread on debian-devel?
[17:45] <SpamapS> jamespage: I'm wondering if they would be interested in adopting it.
[17:46] <SpamapS> jamespage: not super closely, but I did get CC'd on a few of the emails because I've submitted txzookeeper for upload.
[17:47] <jamespage> SpamapS: so its already maintained by Debian Java Maintainers <pkg-java-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org>
[17:47] <SpamapS> jamespage: OH
[17:47] <SpamapS> cool, yeah I'm behind the times. ;)
[17:48] <jamespage> SpamapS: however Thomas has been the primary maintainer within that team of zookeeper
[17:48] <SpamapS> Got it
[17:48] <SpamapS> jamespage: so we can just step up as Uploaders then?
[17:48] <jamespage> So I am a member myself; I could offer to pick it up
[17:49] <jamespage> (by policy I am allowed to change it but would not out of courtesy)
[17:49] <SpamapS> jamespage: Its a big part of Ensemble, and Hadoop, so I think it would make sense for us to do that.
[17:49] <jamespage> but I lack experience; so I would look to lean on the ensemble team to help with testing etc...
[17:50] <jamespage> sounds like its a key part (and it does fit with the overall big data strategy)
[17:50] <jamespage> so reckon we should
[17:51] <SpamapS> jamespage: Yeah we're going to be all over testing it. :)
[17:52] <SpamapS> doh
[18:17] <Daviey> SpamapS: Were you planning to do the mysql merge?
[18:17] <Daviey> (5.1)
[18:18] <adam_g> any squid-deb-proxy users know a proper fix or good workaround for constant hash sum mismatches?
[18:19] <patdk-wk> replace squid-deb-proxy with apt-cacher-ng?
[18:21] <Daviey> adam_g: during install, or normal usage?
[18:21] <patdk-wk> if it's like me, any apt-update that uses a squid cache, goes bad
[18:22] <SpamapS> Daviey: we haven't resolved whether we can transition to 5.5 yet
[18:22] <SpamapS> Daviey: there's little point in merging 5.1 until that is decided
[18:22] <patdk-wk> for me, I have to rm /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/*
[18:22] <Daviey> adam_g: sudo apt-get update -o Acquire::http::No-Cache=True
[18:23] <Daviey> SpamapS: ok
[18:41] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: ping
[18:44] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: pong
[18:50] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: ping
[19:01] <Xago> Hi guys...I'm facing some strange behavior on my server. This is when I try to connect via RDP, this not connect all the time. When this happen, I must reboot the server and I can connect again...but this is not a good thing to working in production mode. What could be wrong?
[19:02] <Xago> I have a desktop version running a Web service and no problem with this machine.
[19:02] <warzauwynn> can't you just restart the service instead of rebooting?
[19:02] <warzauwynn> i mean... not that you should need to restart the service, but rebooting is a little drastic.
[19:03] <warzauwynn> did you check the logs? do you get an error message?
[19:06] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx: o/
[19:07] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: howdy! I was wondering what kernel are we gonna be shipping in Oneiric?
[19:08] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx: 3.0 baby!
[19:08] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: coolio
[19:09] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx: Are you on oneiric yet?
[19:09] <patdk-wk> not 3.2? :)
[19:09] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: yeah that's why I was asking cause I was surprised to see 3.0 :)
[19:10] <RoAkSoAx> U thgough it was gonna be 2.6.39 or somehting
[19:10] <RoAkSoAx> s/U/I
[19:11] <Xago> nobody can give a tip at least? :(
[19:12] <Pici> Xago: Most people using Ubuntu Server here have no graphical environments installed, we just connect via ssh.
[19:15] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx: it was, but i assumed shiney numbers :)
[19:15] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: hehe
[20:03] <zul> Daviey: ping
[20:18] <Daviey> zul:
[20:20] <zul> Daviey:  did you subscribe ubuntu-server to the  dahdi-dkms
[20:31] <Daviey> zul: I did.. wondering if it was a mistake now. :)
[20:34]  * RoAkSoAx off to lunch
[20:34] <zul> Daviey: i think so
[20:36] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: today's your bday?
[20:38] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: yes
[20:38] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: happy birthday man!
[20:38] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: thanks man!
[20:47] <Daviey> ooo, RoAkSoAx - you are naughty
[20:48] <Daviey> Happy Birthday :)
[21:01] <RudyValencia> My server/router can't keep a PPPoE connection up, why?
[21:07] <SpamapS> lifeless: how did your lxc experience turn out?
[21:07] <RoyK> norwegian state television is broadcasting "Hurtigruten, minute by minute, live, from Bergen to Kirkenes", some 2000km by boat - probably the longes live broadcasting ever... http://www.nrk.no/hurtigruten/
[21:07] <lifeless> SpamapS: nothing yet
[21:08] <lifeless> SpamapS: still on todo
[21:08] <lifeless> SpamapS: my 128GB SSD is chokers, so I need to do some fancy footwork to bring it up
[21:08] <lifeless> chockers
[21:09] <RoyK> lifeless: most SSDs should work without issues
[21:09] <SpamapS> lifeless: bummer
[21:09] <SpamapS> RoyK: until they get to the write limit. :)
[21:09] <lifeless> RoyK: uhm, I think you misunderstood me :>
[21:09] <lifeless> RoyK: SSD's still have a size limit :)
[21:10] <RoyK> heh
[21:10] <RoyK> yeah
[21:10]  * RoyK only uses SSDs for storage for a single backup machine, otherwise only for caching
[21:11] <RoyK> erm, a database box, that is
[21:11] <SpamapS> I'm still SSD-less .. just haven't had much occasion to play with them.
[21:11] <RoyK> postgresql running on a pair of mirrored SSDs
[21:12] <RoyK> but it seems like the bacula db isn't very well optimised - it takes 5-10 seconds to even update a view of the backup history
[21:16] <SpamapS> The table design in bacula could probably use partitioning quite effectively.
[21:22] <RudyValencia> My server/router can't keep a PPPoE connection up, when it goes down I get a dmesg that says Jun 16 13:59:07 gxysrv01 kernel: [218309.773881] 0000:04:01.0: tulip_stop_rxtx() failed (CSR5 0xfc664010 CSR6 0xff972117)
[21:22] <RudyValencia> Does this mean I need to get a different Ethernet card for whichever line is failing?
[21:26] <warzauwynn> RudyValencia: looks like it might be a kernel bug.
[21:26] <warzauwynn> there's an ubuntu bug about it, and a post from somebody with a similar problem who says it's specific to a certain kernel.
[21:26] <RudyValencia> I'm using two tulip cards.
[21:27] <RudyValencia> Both Linksys-brand.
[21:27] <warzauwynn> problem is happening on both?
[21:27] <RudyValencia> No, just whichever is 04:01:0
[21:28] <RudyValencia> I can't tell which because they both have the same PCI ID
[21:28] <warzauwynn> huh.  same software versions?
[21:28] <warzauwynn> same system?
[21:28] <RudyValencia> They're both in my server.
[21:28] <warzauwynn> haha, so obviously the same software version
[21:29] <lifeless> SpamapS: if you want a play on my laptop at some point just say so
[21:29] <lifeless> SpamapS: i7 + SSD + 8GB ram == fun
[21:29] <RudyValencia> I'll just take them out, turn on onboard NIC and add a NIC that uses the rtl8139 driver
[21:29] <RudyValencia> bbiab reconfiguring net
[22:49] <lcb> SpamapS: hi. just out of curiosity, this is exactly what i was looking for yesterday -> eyeOS ;)
[22:52] <SpamapS> lcb: cool!~
[22:52] <lcb> SpamapS: looks nice. i'm installing it now
[22:54] <lcb> SpamapS: clouding only for the purpose i need might be to heavy, comparing with this.
[22:54] <lcb> to/too
[22:54] <SpamapS> lcb: you should package it for Ubuntu. :)
[22:54] <lcb> SpamapS: for the steps i see in the installation manual, it pretty simple
[22:55] <lcb> installation info, i mean
[23:50] <paranoidi> hi, seems like latest kernels try to put out 1024x768 resolution which my small lcd cannot handle, how can I stop that? Tried to put "defoptions=vga=normal" in grub menu.lst ...
[23:53] <RoyK> imho using framebuffer for servers is outright stupid
[23:54] <paranoidi> RoyK: I may be way off, but I presume that is what is putting it into non-text mode
[23:54] <paranoidi> hmm, maybe nofb value then ..
[23:55] <paranoidi> and I agree, text mode is what it should be ...
[23:57] <RoyK> paranoidi: sec
[23:59] <RoyK> paranoidi: vga16fb.modeset=0
[23:59] <RoyK> try that