[16:19] <wasabi1> Anybody have any links to an overview of Fedoras decision process to go to systemd?
[16:24] <ion> wasabi1: Here you go: http://i.imgur.com/vFeQt.jpg
[16:28] <wasabi1> haha
[16:52] <wasabi1> So I notice the Upstart.ubuntu.com page is pretty unmaintained.
[16:52] <wasabi1> Latest release 0.6.7?
[20:24] <cjbottaro> Hello.  I'm trying to use upstart to control a python program that daemonizes itself.
[20:25] <cjbottaro> The problem (apparently) the python script starts a new process that thus upstart isn't aware of.  How to remedy?
[20:29] <cjbottaro> got it:  expect daemon
[21:09] <cjbottaro> Is there a way to have to restart succeed even if the job isn't already running (i.e. behave like start if job isn't running)?
[21:21] <Keybuk> no
[21:21] <Keybuk> stop job; start job
[23:39] <bhuga> can anyone tell me how i might start a screen via upstart so i can attach to something that starts at boot later?
[23:39] <bhuga> 'exec screen -dm bash', for example, fails in upstart but works from the shell
[23:47] <cipher> "fails?"
[23:48] <bhuga> 'terminated with status 1' in the log files, followed by auto-respawns until it stops for going too quickly
[23:48] <cipher> what's your start on stanza
[23:48] <cipher> actually can you paste your conf?
[23:49] <bhuga> http://pastie.org/private/wfzagb0p8wieak9ce20aea
[23:49] <bhuga> after lots of playing with the real thing (which is a wordy attempt to get a lisp image running that i can get into and debug), i cannot even get that to work
[23:50] <bhuga> it has not pasted correctly
[23:50] <bhuga> it seems
[23:50] <bhuga> there is a newline before the end script :)
[23:51] <cipher> try playing with the start on being rc
[23:52] <bhuga> this is with 'service spocq start'
[23:53] <bhuga> running at boot isn't the trick, it just errors when it runs