[00:07] <akagitsune> hello everybody, how to stop x server?
[02:27] <Shinka> New to xfce (love it), I'm just having a small issue. I use a USB logitech headset on my laptop. Unlike Ubuntu/Fedora, Xubuntu seems to see it but I can't get him to actually use it instead of the internal speakers.
[03:55] <RexDart> Hello...  I'm wondering how I can find out where exactly I've installed the GRUB bootloader
[03:56] <RexDart> Or at least I think I do
[03:56] <RexDart> I've got Xubuntu installed and now I want to install windows 7 alongside it on the same HDD (already partitioned)
[03:56] <GridCube> bad idea
[03:56] <RexDart> I know
[03:56] <GridCube> you should install 7 first and then xubu
[03:56] <RexDart> that's why I need help :(
[03:56] <RexDart> well too late
[03:57] <GridCube> do you have another hd?
[03:57] <RexDart> eh, someplace, why?
[03:57] <RexDart> I just want to copy the bootsector or wherever GRUB is, to a file so I can tell the windows bootloader to load that file
[03:57] <RexDart> I assume windows 7 can still do that....
[03:58] <GridCube> :D today i avoided that problem installin win into another harddrive, after removing the one that has grub and then repluged the grub drive and run >sudo update-grub         and done :D
[03:58] <RexDart> hmmm
[03:58] <RexDart> could I install win7, then boot a xubuntu cd & run that command?
[03:58] <GridCube> thats the fastest problemless way
[03:58] <GridCube> mmm
[03:59] <GridCube> i don't know if theres update-grub on the live cd
[03:59] <GridCube> !grub
[03:59] <RexDart> nice
[04:00] <GridCube> :)
[04:06] <RexDart> Thanks!  I'll probably be back once booting from cd :P
[04:07] <GridCube> :)
[08:46] <zruty> Hello... I have a laptop which loads the drivers for the WLAN card but  it is greyed out in the NetworkManager applet
[08:46] <zruty> What can I check?
[08:50] <TheSheep> !wifi
[08:52] <zruty> Thanks sheep, I did not realize the ubuntu docs also pertain to xubuntu....
[08:54] <TheSheep> everything under the hood is the same, just the desktop environment and default apps are different
[08:57] <Sysi> every *buntu* is the same OS with same repositories, default configs and installed software just  are different
[08:59] <zruty> Yes yes but so I kind of figured this network thingy is one of the apps that is on top, not under the hood. But no problem! I will just check the ubuntu docs as you specified
[09:26] <zruty> Well I am back where I started
[09:27] <zruty> The drivers are loaded but ifup wlan1 returns "Ignoring unknown interface wlan1=wlan1."
[09:33] <zruty> I am beginning to suspect a hardware issue even though I exchanged the WLAN card for a while with no change in issue
[09:34] <TheSheep> zruty: ifconfig -a shoudl list you all interfaces
[09:35] <TheSheep> zruty: sometimes they are called eth1 or somehting
[09:41] <zruty> TheSheep: Yes, I did those. I followed one of the manuals on your linked page. ifconfig does nto show the WLAN card, iwconfig does. But then still I get the error mentioned above when I try to ifup it
[09:41] <zruty> Perhaps the switch is broken...
[09:42] <zruty> That is my suspicion, right now
[09:42] <zruty> I will check that - but maybe not until tomorrow
[09:52] <zruty> I have to go now, I will be back later (my tomorrow) with update
[10:13] <cyrille37> Hi. (Xfce 4.8): how to create a url link in thunar from Chromium or Firefox drag & drop ? Thx
[13:55] <joeythesaint> Has anyone seen something like this?  <preface>My system may be a bit mangled since I "upgraded" from Ubu 11.04 to Xub 11.04.</preface>
[13:56] <joeythesaint> I'm running awn and when I do anything to the dock appearance or included applets nothing happens until I kill it and restart it.
[13:57] <joeythesaint> Example:  I open up the preferences window and change the icon size from 48 to 24.  Everything stays the same size, but if I kill it and restart it the new size is applied.
[13:58] <joeythesaint> I guess awn is expecting some interaction with, presumably, some Gnome components, but since I haven't found anyone else mentioning this on the web I'm wondering if it's just me.
[15:48] <draioch> hi i just reinstalled Xubuntu 11.04 from a linux format mag dvd using option to keep current files and folders with no disk refomatt, cause reboot prob (recovery msg came up), but now i cant find me files but think they are hidden anyone any ideas
[15:49] <charlie-tca> open a terminal, type ls and hit enter
[15:49] <charlie-tca> anything there?
[15:50] <draioch> thx charlie-tca trying now
[15:50] <charlie-tca> Did you use the same username as it already have?
[15:50] <draioch> yea
[15:51] <draioch> nothin comes up
[15:51] <draioch> ls
[15:51] <draioch> :\
[15:52] <charlie-tca> in the same terminal, cd /home
[15:52] <charlie-tca> ls
[15:52] <charlie-tca> see what is there
[15:53] <draioch> thx
[15:53] <draioch> just me username rabc comes up
[15:54] <charlie-tca> hm, sounds like it is time to get out the backup
[15:54] <draioch> shit no backup
[15:55] <charlie-tca> you can try ls -lA in terminal, it shows all hidden files
[15:55] <draioch> brb thx
[15:55] <charlie-tca> try it in both /home    and     hitting    cd   ENTER
[16:05] <draioch> http://pastebin.com/crLLxsud
[16:06] <draioch> were u think charlie-tca went wrong was it using the same username with the reinstall
[16:09] <charlie-tca> draioch: type    cd     and hit enter
[16:09] <charlie-tca> that puts you back in your /home/rabc directory
[16:10] <draioch> k thx done
[16:10] <charlie-tca> I think the dvd did something wrong, sinc the installer is supposed to leave /home alone if you tell it not to format it
[16:11] <charlie-tca> Unfortunately, we do not control how they build their dvd.
[16:11] <draioch> yea and big thanks for the help anyways might hang around and try learn somethings
[18:29] <Liv-> Hello. Anyone uses radiotray? I'm having problems with the tray icon not showing and it's driving me crazy.
[18:36] <GridCube> Liv-, never heard of it
[18:36] <GridCube> let me find out
[18:40] <Liv-> I have tried some things (like editing the config.xml file and deleting both config.xml and bookmarks.xml) but it's still the same
[18:41] <Liv-> actually, when I edited the config.xml file, it worked
[18:41] <Liv-> the icon loaded as usual and I managed to play at least one radio station
[18:41] <GridCube> Liv-, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1708109 and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1620059
[18:41] <Liv-> but then it's like it crashed, I don't know
[18:42] <Liv-> and I can't edit the bookmarks either while in that "mode"
[18:42] <Liv-> so I turned it back to its original state (the config file)
[18:45] <Liv-> the bookmark thing does not seem to be the problem either
[18:46] <Liv-> it is strange because it worked fine until yesterday :/
[18:47] <charlie-tca> !info radiotray
[19:02] <lrussell> I know you can access windows file sharing via linux. But can you share a folder on linux and access it on windows?
[19:04] <knome> lrussell, yes, by sharing the linux folder in a samba network
[19:04] <knome> dinner ->
[19:04] <lrussell> sorry, i missed the answer to my question if anyone answered
[19:04] <lrussell> oh, ok knome
[19:04] <Liv-> I did but I'm having issues with that too, lol
[19:05] <lrussell> how do i set it up?
[19:05] <lrussell> I need it to work flawless...
[19:06] <lrussell> I'm relying on what ever system is put in place
[19:06] <lrussell> it is windows xp vs. xubuntu
[19:07] <lrussell> is a computer with 512 mb of ram, a 40 gb hd with 20 gb extra and a 1.8 ghz processor good for free?
[19:07] <lrussell> i think so... lol
[19:08] <charlie-tca> yes, it sounds good to me
[19:08] <charlie-tca> I accept any free systems
[19:12] <lrussell> lol, that is really my only good pc... the free one, lol
[19:18] <xubuntu583> Hello world!
[19:19] <knome> hello
[19:19] <GridCube> hello
[19:19] <GridCube> :D
[19:19] <knome> lrussell, sounds like something i'd dump in the garbage ;)
[19:19] <xubuntu583> Installing Xubuntu. I'm very impressed, is the first time I see a linux installer with the "browse internet while you install the system" feature :-O
[19:20] <knome> xubuntu583, that's actually available in most installers, but we wanted to make it more visible
[19:21] <xubuntu583> It's cool :-D
[19:21] <lrussell> lol
[19:21] <GridCube> :D
[19:21] <Liv-> how come I've never noticed that?
[19:22] <lrussell> actually knome, I'm using it right now. the computer is pretty fast
[19:22] <charlie-tca> Liv-: you have to watch the slideshow during the install, it tells you about it.
[19:22] <knome> lrussell, well congrats :) if you are coming to helsinki, i can give you a better pc on pickup ;)
[19:23] <lrussell> lol
[19:23] <xubuntu583> Last time I installed some linux was about 3 years ago. Is easy to get me impressed :-P   I love the "download updates while install proccess is running" too. The entire installer is pretty cool
[19:23] <GridCube> :D
[19:23] <GridCube> awesome
[19:23] <dudicus> how can I map alt + left mouse to be alt+middle mouse instead?
[19:23] <GridCube> if you have any question or problem do no hessitate on asking here
[19:23] <dudicus> :)
[19:24] <dudicus> ill try everywhere :)
[19:24] <GridCube> mmm
[19:24] <GridCube> let me see
[19:24] <knome> dudicus, is that a global shortcut, or a shortcut in an application (eg. firefox?)
[19:25] <dudicus> global
[19:25] <GridCube> dudicus, run >alt-f2 >xfce4-mouse-settings >run         and edit there
[19:25] <charlie-tca> dudicus: tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto#Remapping%20buttons ?
[19:25] <xubuntu583> dudicus, do you mean the alt+left (drag&drop a window)?
[19:25] <dudicus> GridCube: that doesn't have anything for me to set those modifiers
[19:26] <dudicus> xubuntu583: no I mean alt-right mouse for resizing windows
[19:26] <dudicus> charlie-tca: looking..
[19:26] <dudicus> charlie-tca: nah that is for remapping the actual mouse buttons I just want to modify the "activator" keys to resize windows frmo anywhere
[19:26] <knome> bbl
[19:26] <dudicus> in gnome it is alt + middle mouse and I am too used to that
[19:27] <dudicus> so I want it in xfce
[19:27] <charlie-tca> I would read the whole page then
[19:27] <xubuntu583> reboot after installation time, cya people!! Have fun :P
[19:28] <Sysi> dudicus: alt + right click is too different?
[19:28] <charlie-tca> I have you asking this several times, I would think it worth your time to read a little bit
[19:30] <dudicus> Sysi: that's right I want alt + middle click
[19:31] <dudicus> charlie-tca: I did, what you are missing is that it is referring to remapping the actual buttons on the mouse not the modifier that enables resize from anywhere in the window manager
[19:31] <charlie-tca> did any of the links at the bottom of the page help?
[19:31] <dudicus> no they are all referring to the same initial idea of remapping + adding more mappings for button on the mouse
[19:32] <Sysi> i'm not sure if xfwm offers that possibility, it might be hardcoded
[19:32] <dudicus> this is a window manager specific configuration
[19:32] <dudicus> if I launch gnome right now it will work fine
[19:32] <dudicus> well metacity/compiz/whatever
[19:32] <Sysi> you can use metacity/compiz on xfce too
[19:32] <Sysi> alt+F2 NEWWM --replace
[19:32] <dudicus> yeah ill just do that then :)
[19:33] <dudicus> and here we go I hav emy mapping back
[19:33] <dudicus> hurray
[19:33] <dudicus> I assume I can set that in the session for good?
[19:44] <Wizard> hi!
[19:49] <Wizard> keycode 248 (keysym 0x0, NoSymbol)
[19:49] <Wizard> that's what my monitor rotate key sends, i cannot assign it to keyboard shortcut in xfce
[19:49] <Wizard> any possible solutions?
[19:52] <Wizard> .Xmodmap
[19:52] <Wizard> thanks, Wizard
[22:18] <Jaded> Hi
[22:18] <Jaded> Just installed xubuntu, what are some ways I can free up resources?
[22:31] <Wizard> hi
[22:31] <Wizard> where can i send suggestions?
[22:31] <Sysi> xfce or xubuntu bugsilla should take feature requests too
[22:31] <Sysi> what you'd like to change/add?
[22:32] <Wizard> hmm, i think gnome-screensaver would be better for xubuntu than xscreensaver
[22:32] <charlie-tca> Actually, it won't happen
[22:32] <Wizard> it does not introduce many (if any) new dependencies
[22:32] <Wizard> why?
[22:33] <Jaded> holy smokes
[22:33] <Sysi> gnome-screensaver is somewhat broken on gnome3
[22:33] <charlie-tca> gnome-screensaver has been replaced in Xubuntu by xscreensaver because of the issues caused by it
[22:33] <Wizard> :S
[22:33] <Jaded> xubuntu is hammering my 1ghz duron and 768MB ram
[22:34] <charlie-tca> Wizard: as a user, you are free to replace xscreensaver on your own computer.
[22:34] <charlie-tca> It is easy to do, just install gnome-screensaver and remove xscreensaver
[22:34] <Wizard> of course i do this everywhere
[22:34] <Wizard> gnome-screensaver integrates nicely with gdm
[22:35] <Wizard> so for example my wife comes, clicks login as new user when i'm away, she does what she wants, then i switch user and so on
[22:36] <charlie-tca> choice is always nice
[22:36] <Wizard> :)
[22:36] <Wizard> k, never mind, i've just ran on new issue ;P
[22:37] <Wizard> my screen get deem
[22:37] <Wizard> while battery metter says 22%, 1h more
[23:12] <Jaded> is it possible to enable acceleration on xubuntu?
[23:14] <rotura> Hi all! Can anybody help me,please? How can I change desktop icons so partitions use DIFFERENT icon when they are mounted or dissmounted (one icon for mounted and a different one for unmounted state)
[23:17] <rotura> hello?
[23:20] <charlie-tca> If you right-click the icon, is properties clickable?
[23:21] <charlie-tca> well, since you cross-posted, I guess the other channel is helping you.
[23:22] <rotura> I asked on the xfce chan because nobody answered here.. even my "hello?"...
[23:22] <rotura> thanks :-/
[23:22] <charlie-tca> Jaded: Is that video acceleration?
[23:22] <charlie-tca> check in menu -> System -> Additional Drivers for a propietary video driver
[23:23] <charlie-tca> too bad my fingers are slow, huh?
[23:27] <Jaded> I just want me desktop as snappy as possible
[23:28] <Jaded> and yes I've installed drivers for my nvidia geforce 5200 FX
[23:28] <Jaded> using a propietary driver
[23:32] <rotura> Can anybody help me,please? How can I change desktop icons so partitions use DIFFERENT icon when they are mounted or dissmounted (one icon for mounted and a different one for unmounted state)
[23:50] <Jaded> charlie-tca, does it make sense that windows XP feels snappier than Xubuntu?
[23:51] <Sysi> how much RAM?
[23:51] <Sysi> xubuntu is way more modern than XP
[23:52] <Sysi> if you want something really light, try lubuntu-desktop
[23:56] <Jaded> 768
[23:57] <Jaded> actually 512, i'm just about to put the 128MB chip in
[23:58] <rotura> Can anybody help me,please? How can I change desktop icons so partitions use DIFFERENT icon when they are mounted or dissmounted (one icon for mounted and a different one for unmounted state)