[00:40] are the going to put another irc client in next version of lubuntu since they are dropping xchat [00:43] anyone here [00:43] linuxman410: You can always install xchat and Pidgin is an IRC client [00:44] Unit193 why are they removing it using too much memory [01:01] linuxman410: IIRC, to free some space on the CD [01:16] Hi all [01:16] I was looking at doing a lubuntu 64-bit install [01:17] any way to do this? [01:17] yup [01:17] the topic as the links :) [01:18] oh yea [01:21] this might be a little newbish but is it easy to install next to a regular ubuntu install [01:22] so I would have Windows/Ubuntu/Lubuntu [01:41] Slick666: yes, it is... [01:43] Slick666: how well do you know ubuntu and the disk system? [01:43] A decent amount [01:43] I wasn't sure how well the install would play with the Grub that was already there [01:44] grub lives on the MBR area - when you install a new OS grub just needs telling to go and find it @:) [01:44] cool [01:45] the way I do it, is extended partitions - as you can only have 4 primary ones [02:38] have they decided on lxde or lightdm yet [02:38] for 11.10 [02:39] anyone here [02:40] phillw you here [02:44] linuxman410: Not quite yet [02:44] Unit193 they are not going to unity are they [02:47] Unit193 you here [02:47] linuxman410: Lubuntu = LXDE, not Unity [02:47] thanks [02:47] Unit193 i do not like unity or gnome 3 [02:48] linuxman410: I'm not going with Unity any time soon, nor do I plan to use Gnome (XFCE isn't bad though) [02:51] Unit193 i prefer lxde or openbox [12:50] I er...have a weird problem: my version dependencies for lxde in natty are all screwed up [12:57] lxde-core won't install because lxde-common won't install and lxde-common won't install because lxsession won't install. lxsession by itself installs fine. And all version numbers meet the dependency requirements. [12:57] and these are the latest lxde packages in natty, so I'm confused [12:58] lubuntu can't be broken [13:00] the whole reason I'm wanting to install btw, is so that I can get lxsession/settings/appearance to work with awesomewm [13:00] so far lxappearance isn't effecting my gtk settings at all [13:04] or rather...nevermind it is, its just not effecting synaptic [13:05] also lxinput crashes when I try and change the mouse settings but this is a known issue with no fix yet, so yey. [13:08] is there any way to sync files with ubuntu one? [14:45] hi [17:21] hi all [17:21] does anyone know how to connect to FTP server? [17:22] when i searched for it most of the solutions were for ubuntu [17:23] gumus: I use filezilla for my ftp stuff. I'm sure there are other ways, but I'm used to that one :) [17:24] gumus, you can just run filemanager and put ftp://user@server as a path [17:24] same thing for sftp or ssh [17:27] also chromium 'should' now support ftp... http://blog.chromium.org/2009/09/new-ftp-implementation-goes-live.html [17:27] make sure that gvfs-backends is installed [17:27] sudo apt-get install gvfs-backends [17:28] no one should support ftp [17:28] i'll take a look at it , thanks! [17:28] let's start from there ;) [17:28] lol [17:34] wow [17:34] i didn't know it was easy that much [17:40] guys, i got one more question about FTP [17:42] i managed to reach the server as i wrote the address, however i want to make that common folder stable. is just bookmarking enough? === Unit193 is now known as Unit193BeGone [19:52] installed 11.04 yesterday. so far i'm quite happy! [19:54] Hello [19:55] LXDE_menu -> Preferences -> Keyboard and Mouse exits when I try to change 'mouse sensitivity'... [19:55] amber@amberj-lubuntu:~$ lxinput [19:55] Segmentation fault [19:56] !dgb [19:56] noooo [19:56] !backtrace [19:56] To get a backtrace of a failing application please read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace [19:57] AmberJ: you on 11.04? [19:58] yes phillw [19:59] AmberJ: let me just fire it up.. [20:02] AmberJ: I can confirm that on my VM..... It's a little gremlin :( [20:02] make backtrace and send it to launchpad [20:02] bioterror, doing that. [20:04] bioterror, the application hanged when I tried reproducing the error...When I try to Ctrl+c in gdb nothing happens...Any idea as to how I get past this? [20:05] what :D [20:05] soz, just had to jump from 11-10 alpha1 back to 11-04 to confirm a bug. Jeez, these VM's are cute a s hell :D [20:05] bioterror, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace#Generation ....Step 4 [20:06] whoops... wrong channel :-[ [20:06] phillw, it still makes sense though :D [20:06] do you see lxinput process? [20:06] give it a kill witout -9 [20:07] without [20:07] if it doesnt take just plain kill, give it then -9 [20:08] didn't worked without -9... [20:08] Ok, got it killed with -9 [20:09] bioterror, damn...now though the cursor flashes at terminal, it doesnot allows me to type anything at (gdb) prompt [20:10] :D [20:10] rather difficult to solve what's the problem [20:10] phillw-virtual, do backtrace in your vm [20:11] bioterror: I do not know enough about the VM. The error should be logged somewhere. [20:11] if you can talk me through it - I will try. But am still 100% n00b at VM! [20:11] bioterror, http://codepad.org/zs458L5Q quickie look into current state of gdb log in case you are interested [20:12] phillw, using vbox? [20:12] AmberJ, doesnt tell much =D [20:13] yeah - the oracle one. I've never used VM's before so am really new to it all! [20:13] phillw, So, you see lubuntu desktop....right [20:13] ? [20:13] Just open lxterminal... [20:14] and install gdb... [20:14] bioterror: do you want me to follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace#Generation and install gdb? [20:14] da [20:14] okies - I've done that before for pcmanfm :) [20:16] installed... next? [20:18] continue guide [20:18] * phillw-virtual twiddles thumbs as awaits which you want ;) gdb 2>&1 | tee ~/gdb-.txt [20:19] bioterror: remember I'm admin / wiki - not a coder :P [20:20] 'phone... brb [20:22] phillw, is lxinput [20:22] phillw-virtual, then you should understand that your wiki stuff :D [20:23] lol [20:24] Isn't there a way to assign a shortcut to quickly switch from one keyboard layout to another? [20:24] lxkeymap doesnot seems to have one :( [20:25] AmberJ: there is - just let me sort this out 1st! [20:26] ok [20:26] bioterror: command done. do you want me to launch the program? [20:27] how else you would backtrace it?-) [20:29] lol - it's nearly 2 years since I last used gdb - give this old dog a little while :) [20:29] It has successfully crashed [20:29] Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. [20:29] 0x006f6300 in _XSend () from /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6 [20:29] now run rest of the commands [20:30] lol phillw over your reply: "It has successfully crashed" :D [20:31] That reminds me of http://amberj.devio.us/pub/funnie/lxde_error_msg.jpg ;) [20:31] :D [20:31] A debugging session is active. [20:31] Inferior 1 [process 1816] will be killed. [20:31] Quit anyway? (y or n) [20:31] (after 'quit') [20:33] I assume 'y' but I do not wish to make an "ass" out of "u" and "me" ... please advise. [20:34] bioterror: ?? [20:34] press y then [20:36] -rw-r--r-- 1 phillw phillw 8573 2011-06-17 20:31 gdb-lxinput.txt [20:36] you want this? [20:36] I dont want it, but lxinput developers might want ;) [20:45] AmberJ: can you pop onto https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxinput/+bug/798919 and confirm it (and say 'affects me) - thanks. [20:45] Ubuntu bug 798919 in lxinput (Ubuntu) "When adjusting mouse speed program seg-faults" [Undecided,New] [20:47] phillw-virtual, where's the gdb-lxinput.txt stuff? [20:48] I told it to attach? :( [20:48] y u launchpad no attachment!? [20:48] :D [20:52] gilir, hop [20:54] AmberJ: if you head over to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ you'll find multiple keyboards discussed at about https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ#Multiple keyboard layouts :) [20:55] bioterror: is it there? [20:55] confirmed the bug. [20:56] thanks. It will keep the devs out of the pub for a night :P [20:57] hurrrhhh... a link to forum discussion [21:00] bioterror: they had a good discussion on it. I think it is quite excellent and come 11-10 will be using it for the FAQ wiki side, as we do need to be able to support multiple languages. [21:01] My fun with the swede earlier is testament to the fact lubuntu 'can' do it, just needs some instructions :) [21:01] phillw, thanks for the link... [21:03] AmberJ: as you may tell, i'm a documenter - these guys on here are front line support. I will always do as requested to help the project, and they enjoy re-telling me stuff that I have not touched in over a year :) [21:08] phillw, these guys? [21:08] And, is lubuntu officially supported by canonical now? [21:08] Or, are you volunteer documenter? [21:09] AmberJ, we are all volunteered [21:09] and not yet, 11.10 will be "official" [21:09] I'm a volunteer, we all are. lubuntu is on track to be 'fully' canonical endorsed for 11-10 [21:10] Canonical has very few 'employees' and many thousands and thousands of volunteers. [21:15] well yea...'voluteer', this is what most of open source is all about :) [21:18] bug #1 [21:18] Launchpad bug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 [21:39] anyone here use xmonad? [21:39] i need help setting it up in such a way that it keeps a ?px margin [21:39] what does lxde and xmonad have in common? :D [21:40] x?