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| bjsnider | BUGabundo, you do not need smartmontools to get smart data | 00:33 |
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| BUGabundo | ok | 00:34 |
| bjsnider | udisks --ata-smart-refresh /dev/sdx | 00:37 |
| bjsnider | for sata | 00:37 |
| bjsnider | that's what palimpsest uses, and really that's all you need | 00:38 |
| BUGabundo | didn't know that | 00:38 |
| bjsnider | that means you can remove smartmontools and its dependencies | 00:40 |
| BUGabundo | meh | 00:41 |
| BUGabundo | I like them | 00:41 |
| BUGabundo | used to use them | 00:41 |
| BUGabundo | will eventually stop | 00:41 |
| BUGabundo | its like aptitude | 00:41 |
| BUGabundo | its the 1st thing I install | 00:41 |
| alex_mayorga | what's the widget that tells me if my disk is about to break? | 00:44 |
| BUGabundo | do we have one ? | 00:46 |
| bjsnider | there's no "widget", but the palimpsest disk utility handles the task if you launch it | 00:50 |
| bjsnider | it's actually called palimpsest, so if you search for that in unity or gnome-shell it will find it | 00:50 |
| bjsnider | but smart data is not totally accurate, and the disk might be ready to fail even if the smart data says it's healthy | 00:51 |
| alex_mayorga | bjsnider: thanks | 01:05 |
| CarlFK | something pops up a dialog every so often "your disk is about to break " | 01:05 |
| BUGabundo | I hope not | 01:08 |
| BUGabundo | I disabled that two cycles ago | 01:08 |
| BUGabundo | it was madness | 01:08 |
| BUGabundo | nite | 02:19 |
| billybigrigger | hey all | 02:55 |
| billybigrigger | i just did a fresh install of 11.04 the other day, and i got the Addition Drivers dialog, and thought maybe oneiric that maybe we could start including driver versions for drivers, ie the ati/nvidia/broadcom drivers... | 02:56 |
| billybigrigger | it would just be nice for a new user to see what driver they're getting, and maybe a bit more info on the driver aswell | 02:57 |
| billybigrigger | is this being considered/implemented already? | 02:57 |
| IdleOne | 'apt-cache policy nvidia-*' will tell you the version of your nvidia driver or you can check via Software Center or Synaptic | 03:04 |
| IdleOne | apt-cache policy nvidia* | grep Installed | 03:05 |
| billybigrigger | IdleOne, i know this | 03:09 |
| billybigrigger | haha im not new | 03:10 |
| billybigrigger | i'm just saying doing a fresh install opened my eyes to the fact that maybe new users want to know more of what they're installing | 03:10 |
| IdleOne | ok, well "regular" users can use one of the package managers to see what they have installed and what version | 03:10 |
| billybigrigger | not if your using additional drivers | 03:11 |
| billybigrigger | ie restricted drivers | 03:11 |
| IdleOne | it is a scientific fact that a more verbose installer is scary! | 03:11 |
| IdleOne | I made that up ^ | 03:11 |
| billybigrigger | the restricted drivers dialog is the first step to installing any closed-source video driver... | 03:12 |
| IdleOne | yeah | 03:12 |
| billybigrigger | there is no previous driver to find a version from...nor is there a version viewable anywhere | 03:12 |
| billybigrigger | that's scary | 03:12 |
| IdleOne | there has to be some sort of video driver | 03:12 |
| IdleOne | isn't it vesa? | 03:13 |
| billybigrigger | yeah xorg-server-video-ati | 03:13 |
| billybigrigger | im talking the restricted drivers dialog that wants you to install propriatery ati driver | 03:13 |
| charlie-tca | most " normal " users don' t really care what any version of anything is. They just want the computer to work. | 03:13 |
| billybigrigger | there's no version or "More Info" tab anywhere, it sucks | 03:13 |
| IdleOne | there is a version and info available...in the package managers | 03:14 |
| IdleOne | maybe a more info tab would be good. | 03:14 |
| IdleOne | I suppose. get working on it :) | 03:14 |
| billybigrigger | im not a dev | 03:14 |
| IdleOne | neither am I. brainstorm.ubuntu.com | 03:15 |
| billybigrigger | how about the progress bar when extracting an archive in nautilus | 03:16 |
| billybigrigger | it goes from 0 - %50 on the bar, and sits there until the archive is extracted, then jumps to %100 when it's all done | 03:17 |
| billybigrigger | it's been like that since i hoary...no plans to fix this either? an actual "working" progress bar would be nice | 03:17 |
| billybigrigger | IdleOne, any opinions on this? :P | 03:18 |
| billybigrigger | hehe jk man | 03:18 |
| IdleOne | haha I never really paid attention to that | 03:18 |
| billybigrigger | its been broken for years | 03:21 |
| IdleOne | usually I hit install and switch window | 03:22 |
| IdleOne | I don't look at the progress. report a bug perhaps, not sure what package you would report against | 03:22 |
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| billybigrigger | file roller i assume | 03:33 |
| billybigrigger | it happens when your extracting a .rar volume | 03:33 |
| ircrob | pulseaudio should not depend on consolekit | 05:02 |
| ircrob | use dbus if needed | 05:03 |
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| BluesKaj | does the new 3.0-1 kernel fix the graphics screwups that came with 3.0-0 ? | 18:40 |
| yofel | not sure, I've nvidia running with 275 and 3.0-0, haven't rebooted with 3.0-1 yet | 18:45 |
| BluesKaj | yofel, I have nvidia 8400gs and 3.0-0 totally screwed my setup... had to revert to 11.04 , that new nvidia current driver wasn't working for my card | 18:48 |
| yofel | :/ | 18:49 |
| BluesKaj | yeah the 275 | 18:49 |
| BluesKaj | no harm done tho , I didn't lose any data ...did a nice clean install to / | 18:51 |
| Ian_Corne | nvidia "works" on 3.0.1-pae now | 19:24 |
| BluesKaj | which nvidia, Ian_Corne ? | 19:27 |
| Ian_Corne | 275 | 19:27 |
| BluesKaj | which card ? | 19:27 |
| Ian_Corne | but i'm saying "works" | 19:28 |
| Ian_Corne | because glxinfo errors | 19:28 |
| Ian_Corne | and I'm being thrown back to unity2D | 19:28 |
| Ian_Corne | 425M | 19:28 |
| * BluesKaj decides to stick with what I have til at least beta ..my other box has "O" working ok with 7600gt card, but the 8400gs here is iffy | 19:30 | |
| Ian_Corne | When trying to update atm: i get that mesa wants to uninstall the nvidia driver and gnome-panel wants to unistall gnome-panel | 19:46 |
| BluesKaj | yup Ian_Corne , that happened to me yesterday | 19:53 |
| trism | Ian_Corne: mesa breaks on nvidia-current for now until lp 798049 is fixed | 19:53 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 798049 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu) "nvidia-* and fglrx need to be migrated to per-architecture gl_conf alternative" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/798049 | 19:54 |
| BluesKaj | still looks messy to me | 19:59 |
| BluesKaj | Ian_Corne, in my case mesa wanted to remove most of the kde apps | 20:03 |
| zniavre | mesa does not want legacy 173.14.xx nvidia driver too | 20:04 |
| * BluesKaj doesn't regret reverting to 11.04 | 20:05 | |
| zniavre | :o) | 20:05 |
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| afv | hi, is anybody having problems in empathy (opening a chat window)?.. the chat window just "hangs" and empathy-chat process has 100% cpu usage | 21:52 |
| afv | since 3 or 4 days ago | 21:52 |
| afv | already deleted the config folders from my home, purged/reinstalled the packages.. | 21:53 |
| Ian_Corne | yes afv | 21:56 |
| afv | ah, as i didn't see any post about this on the forums.. is the cause known? any workaround? | 22:00 |
| Ampelbein | afv: see bug 798377 | 22:06 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 798377 in empathy (Ubuntu) "empathy is using lot of cpu when opening the window chat" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/798377 | 22:06 |
| Ampelbein | (no workaround though) | 22:07 |
| CarlFK | natty loaded snd-hda-intel - todays oneiric 3.0-1 does not, so no sound. should I bug this on lp? | 22:08 |
| afv | Ampelbein, thanks! | 22:08 |
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