=== omichalek is now known as cecko === cecko is now known as omichalek === omichalek is now known as bng [00:33] BUGabundo, you do not need smartmontools to get smart data [00:34] ok [00:37] udisks --ata-smart-refresh /dev/sdx [00:37] for sata [00:38] that's what palimpsest uses, and really that's all you need [00:38] didn't know that [00:40] that means you can remove smartmontools and its dependencies [00:41] meh [00:41] I like them [00:41] used to use them [00:41] will eventually stop [00:41] its like aptitude [00:41] its the 1st thing I install [00:44] what's the widget that tells me if my disk is about to break? [00:46] do we have one ? [00:50] there's no "widget", but the palimpsest disk utility handles the task if you launch it [00:50] it's actually called palimpsest, so if you search for that in unity or gnome-shell it will find it [00:51] but smart data is not totally accurate, and the disk might be ready to fail even if the smart data says it's healthy [01:05] bjsnider: thanks [01:05] something pops up a dialog every so often "your disk is about to break " [01:08] I hope not [01:08] I disabled that two cycles ago [01:08] it was madness [02:19] nite [02:55] hey all [02:56] i just did a fresh install of 11.04 the other day, and i got the Addition Drivers dialog, and thought maybe oneiric that maybe we could start including driver versions for drivers, ie the ati/nvidia/broadcom drivers... [02:57] it would just be nice for a new user to see what driver they're getting, and maybe a bit more info on the driver aswell [02:57] is this being considered/implemented already? [03:04] 'apt-cache policy nvidia-*' will tell you the version of your nvidia driver or you can check via Software Center or Synaptic [03:05] apt-cache policy nvidia* | grep Installed [03:09] IdleOne, i know this [03:10] haha im not new [03:10] i'm just saying doing a fresh install opened my eyes to the fact that maybe new users want to know more of what they're installing [03:10] ok, well "regular" users can use one of the package managers to see what they have installed and what version [03:11] not if your using additional drivers [03:11] ie restricted drivers [03:11] it is a scientific fact that a more verbose installer is scary! [03:11] I made that up ^ [03:12] the restricted drivers dialog is the first step to installing any closed-source video driver... [03:12] yeah [03:12] there is no previous driver to find a version from...nor is there a version viewable anywhere [03:12] that's scary [03:12] there has to be some sort of video driver [03:13] isn't it vesa? [03:13] yeah xorg-server-video-ati [03:13] im talking the restricted drivers dialog that wants you to install propriatery ati driver [03:13] most " normal " users don' t really care what any version of anything is. They just want the computer to work. [03:13] there's no version or "More Info" tab anywhere, it sucks [03:14] there is a version and info available...in the package managers [03:14] maybe a more info tab would be good. [03:14] I suppose. get working on it :) [03:14] im not a dev [03:15] neither am I. brainstorm.ubuntu.com [03:16] how about the progress bar when extracting an archive in nautilus [03:17] it goes from 0 - %50 on the bar, and sits there until the archive is extracted, then jumps to %100 when it's all done [03:17] it's been like that since i hoary...no plans to fix this either? an actual "working" progress bar would be nice [03:18] IdleOne, any opinions on this? :P [03:18] hehe jk man [03:18] haha I never really paid attention to that [03:21] its been broken for years [03:22] usually I hit install and switch window [03:22] I don't look at the progress. report a bug perhaps, not sure what package you would report against === F3ar is now known as F3ar|ZNC [03:33] file roller i assume [03:33] it happens when your extracting a .rar volume [05:02] pulseaudio should not depend on consolekit [05:03] use dbus if needed === F3ar|ZNC is now known as F3ar === F3ar is now known as F3ar|ZNC === F3ar|ZNC is now known as F3ar === F3ar is now known as F3ar|ZNC === F3ar|ZNC is now known as F3ar === shadeslayer_ is now known as shadeslayer === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang === SudoKing is now known as PseudoOne === PseudoOne is now known as SudoKing [18:40] does the new 3.0-1 kernel fix the graphics screwups that came with 3.0-0 ? [18:45] not sure, I've nvidia running with 275 and 3.0-0, haven't rebooted with 3.0-1 yet [18:48] yofel, I have nvidia 8400gs and 3.0-0 totally screwed my setup... had to revert to 11.04 , that new nvidia current driver wasn't working for my card [18:49] :/ [18:49] yeah the 275 [18:51] no harm done tho , I didn't lose any data ...did a nice clean install to / [19:24] nvidia "works" on 3.0.1-pae now [19:27] which nvidia, Ian_Corne ? [19:27] 275 [19:27] which card ? [19:28] but i'm saying "works" [19:28] because glxinfo errors [19:28] and I'm being thrown back to unity2D [19:28] 425M [19:30] * BluesKaj decides to stick with what I have til at least beta ..my other box has "O" working ok with 7600gt card, but the 8400gs here is iffy [19:46] When trying to update atm: i get that mesa wants to uninstall the nvidia driver and gnome-panel wants to unistall gnome-panel [19:53] yup Ian_Corne , that happened to me yesterday [19:53] Ian_Corne: mesa breaks on nvidia-current for now until lp 798049 is fixed [19:54] Launchpad bug 798049 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu) "nvidia-* and fglrx need to be migrated to per-architecture gl_conf alternative" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/798049 [19:59] still looks messy to me [20:03] Ian_Corne, in my case mesa wanted to remove most of the kde apps [20:04] mesa does not want legacy 173.14.xx nvidia driver too [20:05] * BluesKaj doesn't regret reverting to 11.04 [20:05] :o) === yofel_ is now known as yofel === Mkaysi is now known as UG1 === UG1 is now known as Mkaysi [21:52] hi, is anybody having problems in empathy (opening a chat window)?.. the chat window just "hangs" and empathy-chat process has 100% cpu usage [21:52] since 3 or 4 days ago [21:53] already deleted the config folders from my home, purged/reinstalled the packages.. [21:56] yes afv [22:00] ah, as i didn't see any post about this on the forums.. is the cause known? any workaround? [22:06] afv: see bug 798377 [22:06] Launchpad bug 798377 in empathy (Ubuntu) "empathy is using lot of cpu when opening the window chat" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/798377 [22:07] (no workaround though) [22:08] natty loaded snd-hda-intel - todays oneiric 3.0-1 does not, so no sound. should I bug this on lp? [22:08] Ampelbein, thanks! === KNUBBIG_ is now known as KNUBBIG === KNUBBIG is now known as KNUBBIG_