| Laney | directhex: hmmmmmm | 00:00 |
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| Laney | probably ought to go | 00:00 |
| directhex | it's the law. | 00:01 |
| directhex | enrico will be there an' ev erything | 00:01 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 07:55 |
| kklimonda^ | shadeslayer: hey, can you tell my why did we change oauth id for choqok? It is now supposedly identifying itself as "Kubuntu Choqok". | 09:04 |
| shadeslayer_ | kklimonda^: sure, it was because Choqok ships its own Auth ID *inside* the source code and twitter discourages that, so in general it was suggested that we use our own auth id instead of choqok's auth id | 09:54 |
| shadeslayer_ | let me get the article | 09:54 |
| shadeslayer_ | kklimonda^: http://arstechnica.com/security/guides/2010/09/twitter-a-case-study-on-how-to-do-oauth-wrong.ars | 09:57 |
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| shadeslayer | kklimonda^: so there's a good chance that twitter will block choqok's key in the future, so our key is a workaround for that | 09:59 |
| kklimonda^ | shadeslayer: thanks | 10:14 |
| hrw | hi kklimonda^ | 10:31 |
| kklimonda^ | hey hrw | 10:32 |
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| Amoz | hi, what's the usual waiting time before a merge proposal gets reviewed? | 15:01 |
| tumbleweed | Amoz: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring-stats/ | 15:02 |
| Amoz | tumbleweed, wow, thanks! | 15:06 |
| DorianJaminais | Hello everybody ! | 15:21 |
| DorianJaminais | I am trying to package ogrenewt, an addon for ogre | 15:22 |
| DorianJaminais | my problem is that when building with pbuilder, it fails because it does not find the newton library | 15:23 |
| DorianJaminais | this library is in the package folder | 15:23 |
| DorianJaminais | but i don't know how to tell pbuilder where to find it | 15:23 |
| DorianJaminais | here is the end of the buildlog : http://paste.ubuntu.com/628432 | 15:25 |
| DorianJaminais | Does anybody knows how to fix my problem ? | 15:26 |
| tumbleweed | DorianJaminais: it's not about telling pbuilder where to find it, it's about tessing this package's build system where to find it | 15:32 |
| DorianJaminais | This package uses Cmake | 15:33 |
| * tumbleweed wonders why newton isn't packaged for debian. Does it not provide a stable ABI? | 15:33 | |
| DorianJaminais | newton is not package on its own for debian because of the license | 15:34 |
| DorianJaminais | we can only package it as part of another project | 15:34 |
| DorianJaminais | that's why i try to package ogrenewt | 15:34 |
| tumbleweed | right | 15:34 |
| DorianJaminais | so, i have added a variable in the cmakelist.txt | 15:35 |
| tumbleweed | it looks like it's permissivyl licenced, so I don't see the issue | 15:35 |
| DorianJaminais | -> SET(NEWTON_INCLUDE_DIR "newtonSDL/sdk") | 15:35 |
| tumbleweed | DorianJaminais: sorry I try to avoid learning cmake :) | 15:36 |
| DorianJaminais | well the license says : "THe LICENSEE may not trdistribute the SOFTWARE, except as part of a compiled software program that is not itself a physics library" | 15:37 |
| tumbleweed | ok, I didn't look at the licences included in the source, just the home page | 15:38 |
| DorianJaminais | the things is that i manage to compile it by hand but when using pbuilder it fails | 15:38 |
| tumbleweed | are you sure you didn't have it in /usr/local/lib or something? | 15:39 |
| DorianJaminais | i think so | 15:40 |
| tumbleweed | well that's how it was finding it then | 15:40 |
| tumbleweed | you need to make it find the local version | 15:40 |
| DorianJaminais | i try again by hand on a clean environment | 15:40 |
| DorianJaminais | yes but how can i do that | 15:40 |
| DorianJaminais | ? | 15:40 |
| tumbleweed | DorianJaminais: I have no idea, I'd have to work it out. And for that I'd need to see the source package you are using | 15:44 |
| DorianJaminais | okay, i am uploading it | 15:45 |
| DorianJaminais | alright, here is the source package : http://parent.jaminais.fr/ogrenewt.tar.gz | 15:59 |
| Laney | surely that license is unsuitable for the archive | 16:01 |
| DorianJaminais | even part of a packaging project ? | 16:01 |
| Laney | what's a packaging project? | 16:02 |
| DorianJaminais | i mean, the content of this archive is aimed at being packaged | 16:02 |
| DorianJaminais | and the license says i can redistribute it packaged with other things | 16:03 |
| DorianJaminais | as newton is not the only software in this archive, i think we can consider it a package and it is not a physics library package | 16:03 |
| cjwatson | it can't go in the Ubuntu archive with that licence term | 16:05 |
| cjwatson | well, not in main | 16:05 |
| cjwatson | or universe | 16:05 |
| cjwatson | it could go in multiverse I guess | 16:05 |
| Laney | i don't think it's clear whether that really allows redistribution | 16:06 |
| Laney | a pessimistic interpration would probably say no | 16:06 |
| cjwatson | I think it clearly allows redistribution together with other non-physics things | 16:06 |
| DorianJaminais | the licenses states that we are entitled to redistribute it as part of an other project than a physics library | 16:06 |
| cjwatson | but it is definitely non-free by our terms | 16:07 |
| Laney | what's a physics library? | 16:07 |
| Laney | what's a part? | 16:07 |
| DorianJaminais | yes i know that, but it can still be package | 16:08 |
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| cjwatson | Laney: I'm quite sure there are grey areas | 16:08 |
| Laney | The LICENSEE agrees to notify www.newtondynamics.com of any products, commercial, shareware or free that incorporate the Newton Game Dynamics technology. | 16:09 |
| cjwatson | gosh, good luck doing that if it was in the Ubuntu archive | 16:09 |
| DorianJaminais | yes i know that impossible | 16:10 |
| DorianJaminais | but i think it can still be packaged and made available on the ogre forum as a deb file | 16:11 |
| Laney | I am only speaking for the ubuntu archive here, as that is what this channel is about :-) | 16:11 |
| DorianJaminais | this is allowed and would be very usefull for a lot of peoples | 16:11 |
| DorianJaminais | yes but my problem here is not on the license but on the way to package it | 16:12 |
| cjwatson | anyway, either put -L. before -lNewton on the link line, or use libNewton.so in place of -lNewton | 16:14 |
| cjwatson | this isn't specific to pbuilder - it's just that pbuilder is working in an environment where libNewton isn't installed in /usr/lib or whatever | 16:14 |
| cjwatson | you could see the same effect in an ordinary system by making sure libNewton isn't installed in the system library path | 16:15 |
| DorianJaminais | and is there a way to move libNewton to /usr/lib ? | 16:15 |
| cjwatson | not during the build, no | 16:15 |
| cjwatson | that would not be the correct fix | 16:15 |
| cjwatson | (I mean, if it were packageable separately, sure ...) | 16:16 |
| DorianJaminais | yes but here comes the license again :( | 16:16 |
| DorianJaminais | so i am trying with libnewton.so | 16:16 |
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| cjwatson | capitalisation will matter | 16:20 |
| DorianJaminais | in my cmakelist.txt i have SET(NEWTON_LIBRARY "Newton.so") | 16:22 |
| DorianJaminais | is that ok ? | 16:22 |
| DorianJaminais | well, nothing has changed | 16:30 |
| DorianJaminais | i still get the exact same error message | 16:30 |
| JackyAlcine | DorianJaminais, you're using CMake? Did you modify CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX? | 16:54 |
| DorianJaminais | yes I am using cmake | 16:54 |
| JackyAlcine | If it's not set to "/usr", it won't go to /usr/lib | 16:54 |
| DorianJaminais | it is set to /usr | 16:54 |
| DorianJaminais | my problem is that libNewton.a is not in /usr but in ogrenewt/newtonSDK/sdk/ | 16:55 |
| JackyAlcine | Did you use an install function to install the shared library? | 16:55 |
| DorianJaminais | no | 16:55 |
| DorianJaminais | i only get the already compiled code of newton | 16:56 |
| JackyAlcine | Hm, well, the install method would handle that for you. Try running cmake --help-html and look up the method. | 16:56 |
| JackyAlcine | It would copy it from the ${PROJECT_BINARY_DIR} to ${NEWTON_INSTALL_DIR} (whatever that's set to). | 16:57 |
| DorianJaminais | I don't have any variables name newton_install_dir | 16:58 |
| JackyAlcine | Can I see your CMakeLists.txt file? | 16:58 |
| DorianJaminais | yes for sure | 16:58 |
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| DorianJaminais | here it is : http://paste.ubuntu.com/628474 | 16:59 |
| DorianJaminais | well, i'm giving up for today, i'll try again on monday | 17:13 |
| DorianJaminais | thank you very much for your help guys | 17:13 |
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| micahg | RoAkSoAx: were you still planning on taking care of rdscli? | 18:28 |
| RoAkSoAx | micahg: you said is an ACK for you now right? | 18:33 |
| RoAkSoAx | micahg: if so, please go ahead and re-upload as i'm immerse deeply into cobbler import code atm | 18:34 |
| RoAkSoAx | s/immerse deeply/deeply immerse/ | 18:35 |
| micahg | RoAkSoAx: k, if not today, will do over the weekend | 18:35 |
| micahg | Laney: or directhex are you around by any chance? | 19:08 |
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| Amoz | hey, when fixing small bugs, how do I know when to use the bzr commit changelog and when to use the debian/changelog with dch -i ? | 21:03 |
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| Laney | micahg: yeah a bit | 21:39 |
| tumbleweed | Amoz: changelog is what really matters, if you 'debcommit' it'll use your changelog entry as a commit message | 21:39 |
| micahg | Laney: ah, was just going to ask about running update-maintainer on moon, but I figured out how to do it w/out modifying the maintainer | 21:40 |
| Laney | DEBEMAIL= | 21:40 |
| micahg | right | 21:40 |
| Laney | :-) | 21:40 |
| micahg | Laney: but unfortunately, updating in natty for Firefox 5 is blocked on the FTBFS in oneiric (bug 798941) if you want to take a look at it | 21:42 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 798941 in moon (Ubuntu Oneiric) "moon FTBFS in oneiric with libav 0.7" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/798941 | 21:42 |
| Laney | urgh | 21:43 |
| Laney | you'd better ask directhex about moonlight | 21:44 |
| Laney | don't know if anyone cares for it these days | 21:44 |
| micahg | k, I tagged ftbfs and milestoned for alpha-3, so I figure someone will get to it eventually | 21:45 |
| Amoz | tumbleweed, so I guess my bugfixes where I bzr commit is bad then. | 22:26 |
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| micahg | hi gilir | 23:30 |
| directhex | Laney: RM it. if it becomes usable again, we can re-NEW it. | 23:44 |
| micahg | directhex: seriously, moon go bye-bye? | 23:45 |
| directhex | micahg: i think it's irresponsible to pretend it's fine, given i don't even know if it has an upstream anymore | 23:45 |
| micahg | directhex: ok, wfm, that means I can add it to the packages to be tested in natty | 23:46 |
| directhex | means monodevelop needs patching. (or unpatching, to be more precise) | 23:47 |
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