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nUboon2Ageubuntu Hour: Mountain View is in the house, pleia2, jledbetter, jtatum, mpontillo, jyo, jamalta, akk, crashsystems, crashsystems1, broder02:54
pleia2nUboon2Age: on call this week so my ability to travel is limited, have fun :)02:54
jamaltasorry i'm missing out ubuntu hour, still in the office because of an outtage, have fun everyone!02:54
nUboon2Agesorry to miss you pleia2, jamalta, but we'll attempt to "stay calm and carry on" as they say. ;-)02:58
jamaltanUboon2Age: have fun :)02:58
jledbetterjtatum, raise a ruckus for me03:55
jtatumi'm flailing my arms03:56
jledbetterjtatum, good job03:58
jtatumnUboon2Age: http://itsthisforthat.com/04:04
nUboon2Agethat website kept us in stitches tonight.  good times @ UH:MV04:09
MarkDuderofl04:11
MarkDudeGood stuff04:11
nUboon2Agethanks jtatum, akk and Dave for a fun entertaing evening. ;-)04:11
MarkDudeThat link represents a billion in VC money04:11
MarkDude:)04:11
sn9website?04:17
jtatumnUboon2Age: http://itsthisforthat.com/04:19
jtatumsn9: ^^^04:19
nUboon2Agesn9, is BrightAmbition you?04:20
sn9nUboon2Age: no she is not, even if sometimes we do seem to be the same person in some ways04:21
nUboon2Agesn9 ;-)04:22
sn9think back to the mini-geeknic at aaditya's04:22
sn9you'll remember her04:22
nUboon2Ageakk is working on an online python course!04:23
nUboon2Agei've been playing with the new cat who adopted me yesterday, Brendan04:24
BrightAmbitionhello :)04:25
nUboon2Ageyes sn9, i do recall. :-)04:25
nUboon2Agehey!04:25
* BrightAmbition is muilti-tasking04:25
nUboon2Ageme.too04:25
nUboon2Agemy face s sore from lauging so hard04:26
nUboon2Agelaughing04:27
nUboon2Agesee also akk 's shollowsky.com/obsreport.cgi04:29
akkhttp://shallowsky.com/obsreport.cgi04:30
akkastronomy observing reports04:31
BrightAmbitionk05:15
sn9l05:17
BrightAmbitionm05:19
BrightAmbitionlol05:19
sn9CoC05:22
akkrtfm rofl05:23
akk(I saw a Chinese woman yesterday wearing a t-shirt that said LMAO with a picture of Mao :)05:24
MarkDudelol05:24
nUboon2AgeTuesday met Sunnyvale former mayor Fred Fowler advocating City move to Open Office from m$ Office. i think he might become one of us @ some point ;-)05:25
BrightAmbitionwho's Mao?05:25
nUboon2AgeBA as in Mao Tse Tung?05:25
* BrightAmbition is lost05:25
BrightAmbition*brain fart*05:26
BrightAmbitionlol05:26
sn9standard pinyin spelling is Mao Zedong, i thought05:26
MarkDudeOne of the dude's on the 404 podcast had a cat named Meow Tse Tung, or just chaiman Meow05:27
akkIt's changed over the years. Mao Tse Tung used to be a more common spelling.05:27
akkhaha, MarkDude05:27
MarkDudeJustin Yu of CNET :)05:27
sn9akk: history books when i was in school said Tse-Tung, but that's not pinyin afaik05:28
MarkDudesn9, do you think the cat cared about the spelling when it was called ? XD05:29
sn9meow05:29
MarkDudelol05:29
BrightAmbitionnyan nyan ^-^05:29
sn9i have something to say about that, but not in a publicly logged channel05:30
BrightAmbitionlol05:32
philipballewdoes anyone know if im cp'ing files in the cli how i can see the output of what im coping easily? or a progress type indicator?16:56
pleia2-v16:57
philipballewthanks!16:58
DarkwingDuckMorning.17:47
seidosmorning DarkwingDuck.  how is st. canard?17:48
DarkwingDuckIt is well.17:48
seidosgood to hear17:49
seidosi'm reading these:  http://www.stallmanfacts.com/all17:51
seidosi think i've seen some of them before...17:51
* seidos wonders how awesome a weapon a particle accelerator would be19:21
seidosrail gun comes to mind19:21
MarkDudeStill does not measure up to best anti-zombie weapon19:22
akkAs long as you can get your enemies to come stand inside your accelerator ...19:22
MarkDuderocket powered chainsaw19:22
MarkDudehttp://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/RPC2-560-x-363.jpg19:23
MarkDudeseidos, did you hear about that organic laser they made with a jellyfish?19:23
seidosMarkDude: nope19:24
seidosi would think it would be possible to make a small enough particle accelerator, like on a ship or something, with like an exit point for the particle19:24
MarkDudehttp://scienceray.com/physics/jellyfish-becomes-laser/19:24
seidosMarkDude: did you hear about the immortal jellyfish?19:25
MarkDudeI think it would come down to energy needed to form damaging ray19:25
MarkDudeNo I have not19:25
MarkDudeWell the other issue I have with that bigass accelerator is that some people are saying it is the search for the God particle19:26
seidosMarkDude: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Turritopsis_nutricula19:26
seidosthe "God particle" is probably a photon, either that or total emptiness19:26
seidosbut yeah, Higg's Boson19:26
seidosisn't it like an anti-electron or something?19:27
MarkDudeI mean no need to go waaaaaay out of your way to say- hey what you believe sucks, almost sounds EXACTLY like what that naming rebels against :P19:27
seidosi don't understand the 2nd part19:27
MarkDudeHey your ideas you tried to push on me suck-19:27
MarkDudeSo I will do exactly the same19:27
seidosi got that, but "...what that naming rebels against"19:28
MarkDudeits an atheist/agnostic19:28
akkI don't think any particle physicists call it the "god particle".19:28
MarkDudesaying they are tired of others pushing19:28
akkThat's media people trying to get headlines.19:28
MarkDudeakk19:28
MarkDudeyes19:28
MarkDudevested interests19:28
seidosi wouldn't know, i don't know any particle physicists19:28
akkJust like all the people saying "living cell laser!" when it's actually "if you take luminescent dye from a cell you can build a laser around it".19:28
seidosi think jdeslip is a physicist, we met...2 times19:28
seidos:P19:29
akkDistort what really happened then make a press release.19:29
* MarkDude figures best to steer clear of my God can beat up your God, let alone journalists saying their science can beat up (fill in blank19:29
seidosso we're not going to have starship trooper like aliens shooting ballistic energy balls out of their abdomens?19:29
MarkDudeakk, you always just focus on reality19:29
MarkDude:D19:29
seidosmy cousin got his masters in physics, but he does web development now19:30
MarkDudeseidos, not until google decides it wants to do that19:30
seidosakk is a vulcan19:30
MarkDudelol19:30
akklive long and prosper19:30
MarkDudeakk, has the logic of a Vulcan19:30
seidosditto19:30
MarkDudeSpocks Dad no less19:30
seidosYoda can't do the live long and prosper "mudra"19:30
seidoswell, i guess if he pressed his thumb...anyway...19:31
seidosLogic can be used to justify anything19:31
MarkDudeYoda could create that picture(or many others) in your mind tho seidos19:31
seidosthat's its power19:31
seidosthen he'd laugh like a cute munchkin and run away19:32
* MarkDude just does not like when anyone goes out of their way to piss on other's belief systems, or lack thereof19:32
seidoswell finding certainty in an uncertain world is one thing, pissing on beliefs is another19:33
MarkDudeLet people have their magic- ---- as long as they dont try to push it on you, that would be the all around line19:33
MarkDudeyou are correct seidos19:33
seidoswell, magic is useless if it doesn't affect reality in some way19:33
akkRight. If people don't try to impose their religion on me, I'm respectful of theirs.19:33
seidosand some may argue this is it being "pushed on them"19:33
akkWhen they start trying to make laws to impose it on me I get irritated and start wanting to push back.19:33
seidosyeah, i'm not a fan of theocracy.19:34
MarkDudeakk, +119:34
* MarkDude lived in Santa Cruz and saw people doing all sorts of weird stuff, I was like- hey if it makes you happy, you arfe not forcing it on me, or will still take your sick kid to Dr. - have at it19:35
akkI've sadly gotten less tolerant of religions lately because of all the theocratic tendencies during the bush administration.19:35
seidosakk: +1 to your dexterity19:35
MarkDude+lots19:35
seidosyou may need it19:35
* seidos pats MarkDude 19:36
MarkDudeTy :)19:36
seidossquirrel!19:36
seidosi saw a squirrel the other day.  i talked to it.19:37
MarkDudeI mean if people want to doubt the Flying Spaghetti Monster, that is their loss ;)19:37
seidosno stem cell research, i'm trying to think of another theocratic tendency of the bush administration19:37
seidosi am convinced everything is real, somewhere, someplace19:37
seidosthat is probably both the beauty and horror of reality19:38
seidosexcept the Star Wars Universe, that happened already19:38
MarkDudeall things are not only possible, but ARE?19:38
* MarkDude wants to hang out with some Ewoks19:38
seidoswell, if it's possible...19:39
seidosi guess it's a question of time if it's possible19:39
MarkDudeThose little peeps can party19:39
pleia2MarkDude: bringing a big ole back of charcoal on BART would be hard, are there any small things I can bring aside from chips and stuff?19:39
MarkDudeI have charcoal19:39
pleia2MarkDude: I'm also happy to pitch in if we need to drive to the store while we're at the park :)19:39
MarkDudeCool19:39
pleia2s/back/bag19:39
* MarkDude did not even hit MLs with this19:39
pleia2yeah19:39
pleia2we can do our bigger picnic next month :)19:40
MarkDudeThat was the thing about scaling back for this month19:40
MarkDudeHow would July 9th work for Vasona Lake?19:40
MarkDudeHave date set for next19:40
MarkDudeThat was the goal last year19:40
pleia2that's the same day as CABAL19:40
pleia2does the 16th work?19:41
MarkDudeSure19:41
MarkDudeBut no tthe 17th19:41
pleia2and not the 23rd or 24th :)19:41
MarkDudeThat is MC Hammer bobblehead day for the A's19:41
pleia2haha19:41
pleia2can't miss that!19:41
MarkDudeWell yes I leave the 18th19:41
MarkDudefor OSCON19:41
MarkDudeCLS19:41
pleia2the 10th is BerkeleyLUG19:42
pleia2so it looks like the 16th is the best option, if you can swing it before OSCON (I know you'll be kinda busy preparing)19:42
MarkDudeAnd hella people drinking PBR, with tattoos and freak bikes19:42
akkI'll probably be here the 9th but not the 16th.19:42
MarkDudeDamn19:42
pleia2I mean, we can do it the same day as CABAL, it doesn't start until later in the day19:42
MarkDudeWell- I know most of our events have been Cabal days19:43
akkcould it be sunday, the day after cabal? would that help?19:43
pleia2akk: that conflicts with berkeleylug19:43
* MarkDude respects the Godfather of Bay Are Linux19:43
MarkDude:D19:43
MarkDudeVasona has music on Saturdays19:43
pleia2well, the 9th and 16th work for me, I was just pointing out CABAL because we'll be posting to all his mailing lists ;)19:44
pleia2it's up to you19:44
MarkDudeWell lets seee what music is goijng on19:52
MarkDudehttp://www.southbayfolks.org/vasona/#psched19:53
MarkDudeAlthough the band *kitchen help would tie in with GK19:53
MarkDudethe jug band does sound awesome19:53
pleia2hehe19:53
MarkDudeWell we can get more input- and if needed- flip a coin19:54
MarkDudeseidos, you have heard the joke about the Buddhist going to the hotdog vendor- and asking *to make him ONE with EVERYTHING*?19:55
* MarkDude loves that one19:55
seidosMarkDude: yeah, and change comes from within19:56
MarkDudelol19:56
seidosi actually said that to a guy that asked me for change when i was in SF19:56
MarkDudeyep19:56
seidosi think i just pissed him off19:56
MarkDudeOh well19:57
MarkDudeHis fault19:57
MarkDudehe was in SF19:57
MarkDudeMight be on you if you were in Orange County :P19:57
seidosi hear ya'19:58
seidosif i ever go back to orange county it will be too soon19:58
MarkDudeno doubt19:58
MarkDudehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5M_Ttstbgs19:59
MarkDudeOC reminds me of the Buffalo Springfield - For What Its Worth19:59
MarkDudeTheres something happening here19:59
MarkDudeWhat it is ain't exactly clear20:00
seidosi dunno, i saw Tito Ortiz running in HB20:02
seidoswhen i used to hang out at the bars there20:02
MarkDudeWell HB has the extremes20:04
* MarkDude remebers taking surfboard on bus to go to beach20:04
MarkDudethe rule was back of the bus with them20:05
MarkDudethat is sooooooo Cali20:05
MarkDudeawesome20:05
MarkDudeHave you seen Samuel L Jackson reading *Go the F**k to sleep? Totally NSFW, but hella funny20:06
MarkDudeits a kids book (really for adults)20:06
seidosnah, i haven't20:06
seidoscool song btw20:06
seidosgoes without saying, it's like a classic20:06
MarkDudehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTugz1TYbM0    <<<< that link has the F bombs in it20:07
MarkDudeno clicky at work20:07
seidosi tried taking a skateboard onto a bus, i think i was in lynwood or something, and the bus driver said they weren't allowed on20:08
MarkDudedepending on your work20:08
seidosi don't have a job, that isn't a concern20:08
* MarkDude always thought the sticker should not say skateboarding is not a crime20:08
seidosMarkDude: have you heard this one?  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bcpbkswsi9Y20:09
* MarkDude thought it should be: skateboarding ought not be a crime20:09
akkTruer but less catchy.20:09
akkBut, skateboards not allowed on a bus? That's really crazy.20:10
MarkDudeI almost understand the 4.5 ft longboards20:11
MarkDudebut not regular ones20:11
seidosi didn't argue, i thought it was poetic justice.  the driver was black, aka Big Red20:11
MarkDudeJust pull a Maty McFly and grab the back of the bus20:11
seidosi think New Orleans is another interesting place20:11
MarkDudeMarty20:11
seidosnah, i found another way home20:12
seidosskating is cool, but i didn't like how it would only work out one side of my body20:12
seidosand skating switch is hard20:12
* MarkDude was told not to wave his arms around so much while in Louisiana - we dont care if you are Italian- it looks like you are getting ready to make a punch20:13
seidosi don't have the same complaint with surfing, but that's probably because i spent more time paddeling than actually riding waves20:13
MarkDudeIt make us flinch20:13
* MarkDude kept hands in pockets while in Oak Grove LA20:14
seidospaddling*20:14
seidosi put my hands behind my back a lot20:14
seidosi don't like fingers pointing20:14
* MarkDude waves his hands in all directions20:14
* seidos wiggles his hands and makes funny noises20:15
MarkDudeSurfing is cool. I would suggest that you spend more time BEing while in water20:15
MarkDude2nd is paddling20:15
MarkDudethen maybe 4th is actually surfing20:15
seidosyeah, i did that last time20:15
seidosi'll probably do a lot of body surfing this summer20:15
MarkDudeBody surfing is fun20:15
MarkDudeIt feels cool to have a 4-5 ft wave slam you20:16
seidosthat's what i hear, and i know it's possible, i'm just better with a boogie board20:16
MarkDudeWhen they get bigger- not so much20:16
seidosnah, i don't like being slammed20:16
MarkDudeMaybe its because I have been slammed by 7-10 ft stuff- that scared the hell out of me-20:17
MarkDudewashing machine spin cycle20:17
seidosi haven't been slammed by 7-10, but i did try paddling out on a boogie board once with big surf, couldn't do it20:18
seidosstrange...maybe i was and i don't remember o_o20:18
seidosdropping in on 7+ would be terrifying, 5 foot is bad enough20:19
seidosblaming anyone else is pointless20:25
seidosthough, i would say i'm not sure exactly what a "winner" even is20:25
MarkDudeWell the ocean makes me feel humble20:26
MarkDudeAnytime you go to the beach- it is good to respect its power20:26
seidosagreed20:30
seidoser, yeah that was meant for another channel20:30
MarkDudeWell its ok20:31
MarkDudeyou can agree the ocean is powerful20:31
pleia2hehe20:31
seidosoh no, not that, the 2 sentences above it20:31
pleia2ocean++20:31
MarkDudeMost do.20:32
seidosthough, it kind of fits20:32
MarkDudeOh good20:32
MarkDudeseidos, I was struggling to see how that related :D20:32
seidosMarkDude: i'm talking to someone else about my current financial situation20:32
seidosit's comedy and tragedy!  :D D:20:33
* MarkDude understands20:39
MarkDudethe employment search for me starts at end of July20:39
* MarkDude is marketing himself as cut-rate jono - halfway between him and Karsten Wade (Fedoras CM)20:40
MarkDudeSure you would LIKE to hire jono but he's really expensive20:41
* MarkDude needs to leave coffee shop and get ready for loud music show tonight Severed Fifth in SF \m/20:42
seidosi'm marketing myself as me20:44
seidosnothing less, nothing more20:44
seidoshey philipballew, how goes it?20:45
MarkDudeGood plan seidos . You are more *reality based* than I choose to be20:45
MarkDudettyl20:45
sn9BrightAmbition: are we going to the geeknic tomorrow?20:47
seidosi think i just got "hit and runned"20:47
BrightAmbitionsn9: Do any of your friends play guitar?20:49
sn9there will quite likely be someone there who can teach20:52
sn9idk who, though20:53
BrightAmbitionsn9: ok, cool21:01
=== BrightAmbition is now known as Usagi
philipballewhey seidos whats up!21:32
=== Usagi is now known as NyanAmbition
seidosphilipballew: working on my site21:34
philipballewnice! what you doin to it?21:35
philipballewseidos,21:35
seidosphilipballew: trying to put up a banner that i made21:35
philipballewoh sweet. i want to get into hosting websites21:36
=== NyanAmbition is now known as NyanNyan
=== NyanNyan is now known as NyanyNyan
seidosi'm not hosting it, i'm just using blogger21:38
seidosand pointing it to http://fictionalphilosophy.org21:38
seidoslet me know if you get into hosting sites philipballew, assuming you have the bandwidth, i wouldn't mind moving my site over21:43
seidosi can afford $0 a month :|21:44
philipballewoh nice! how much does your domain cost if you dont mind?21:45
* MarkDude wants to see if SF can cover this Nyan Cat (New Heavy Metal Version) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3WIs6j7g4w21:56
seidosphilipballew: i think it's like $921:58
philipballewthats not bad at all21:58
seidosMarkDude: stupendous22:00
MarkDudeThat song just gets stuck in your mind22:01
seidosMarkDude: i think it's better methamphetamine22:01
seidos*than22:01
MarkDudelol22:04
NyanyNyanIt is22:12
NyanyNyanlol22:12
NyanyNyanI wish the Nyan Cat would dance or do something else22:13
NyanyNyanlol22:13
=== NyanyNyan is now known as Dango
=== Dango is now known as Usagi-Chan
=== Usagi-Chan is now known as Usagi-San
Usagi-SanGrr i can't decide which name i want22:16
* Usagi-San could never make up her mind22:16
=== Usagi-San is now known as Usagi_San
Usagi_Sanhell22:19
Usagi_Sanhello22:19
Usagi_Sanlol22:19
Usagi_Sansorry22:19
Usagi_Santypos22:19
seidoshell-oh22:34
philipballewsup!22:34
seidoshttp://www.naturalnews.com/032718_L-cysteine_commercial_bread.html22:35
seidoscalgon take me away22:35
pleia2this reapproval app is going to take me about 100 years to write22:41
pleia2help appreciated :)22:41
* MarkDude is of no help to you pleia2 - I can promote it once done22:42
seidoswhat's it written in pleia2 ?22:43
pleia2seidos: it's on the wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/ApprovalApplication201122:44
pleia2basing it on Project pages and TeamReport pages22:44
pleia2(this is the "Experience" section)22:45
seidosah, it's an "application", like an application for a license22:49
seidosnot an app22:49
seidosthe application goes to the loco council i take it?22:50
pleia2yep, here are the details: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-ca/2011-May/001691.html22:50
seidoswhat are they looking for?22:53
seidosi have no idea what your vision is for it pleia2, i am willing to help but i don't want to slow you down.  feel free to pm me though if you think i can be an asset22:54
pleia2reapproval is pretty much the same as initial approval, which is documented here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/TeamApprovalGuidelines22:55
pleia2the app currently has examples of what we want from it, so you just do the same as I did for other events already on the app22:55
* pleia2 is taking a break for now :)22:55
seidoswell, if it were up to me i'd rearrange the list to make it most recent event first22:58
seidosand the only "events" i can vaguely recall are ubucon @ scale22:58
seidosand the booth @ scale22:58
seidosi'm working on my site, it's really my first attempt at xml22:59
seidoswell, this is bad, i can't even sign in to wiki.ubuntu.com23:21
pleia2they upgraded it yesterday and are still working out the kinks23:21
pleia2it took me a few tries23:21
pleia2the sysadmins are aware of the problem23:22
seidosi did a few, two different browsers23:23
seidostries that is23:23
seidosah well, back to my own site23:23
seidosyay, done.  now it looks about twice as weak as before23:47
seidosi was screwing around with the xml, and then managed to do it by adding the "gadget" using the gui23:48
seidosgo me23:48

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