[02:54] <nUboon2Age> ubuntu Hour: Mountain View is in the house, pleia2, jledbetter, jtatum, mpontillo, jyo, jamalta, akk, crashsystems, crashsystems1, broder
[02:54] <pleia2> nUboon2Age: on call this week so my ability to travel is limited, have fun :)
[02:54] <jamalta> sorry i'm missing out ubuntu hour, still in the office because of an outtage, have fun everyone!
[02:58] <nUboon2Age> sorry to miss you pleia2, jamalta, but we'll attempt to "stay calm and carry on" as they say. ;-)
[02:58] <jamalta> nUboon2Age: have fun :)
[03:55] <jledbetter> jtatum, raise a ruckus for me
[03:56] <jtatum> i'm flailing my arms
[03:58] <jledbetter> jtatum, good job
[04:04] <jtatum> nUboon2Age: http://itsthisforthat.com/
[04:09] <nUboon2Age> that website kept us in stitches tonight.  good times @ UH:MV
[04:11] <MarkDude> rofl
[04:11] <MarkDude> Good stuff
[04:11] <nUboon2Age> thanks jtatum, akk and Dave for a fun entertaing evening. ;-)
[04:11] <MarkDude> That link represents a billion in VC money
[04:11] <MarkDude> :)
[04:17] <sn9> website?
[04:19] <jtatum> nUboon2Age: http://itsthisforthat.com/
[04:19] <jtatum> sn9: ^^^
[04:20] <nUboon2Age> sn9, is BrightAmbition you?
[04:21] <sn9> nUboon2Age: no she is not, even if sometimes we do seem to be the same person in some ways
[04:22] <nUboon2Age> sn9 ;-)
[04:22] <sn9> think back to the mini-geeknic at aaditya's
[04:22] <sn9> you'll remember her
[04:23] <nUboon2Age> akk is working on an online python course!
[04:24] <nUboon2Age> i've been playing with the new cat who adopted me yesterday, Brendan
[04:25] <BrightAmbition> hello :)
[04:25] <nUboon2Age> yes sn9, i do recall. :-)
[04:25] <nUboon2Age> hey!
[04:25]  * BrightAmbition is muilti-tasking
[04:25] <nUboon2Age> me.too
[04:26] <nUboon2Age> my face s sore from lauging so hard
[04:27] <nUboon2Age> laughing
[04:29] <nUboon2Age> see also akk 's shollowsky.com/obsreport.cgi
[04:30] <akk> http://shallowsky.com/obsreport.cgi
[04:31] <akk> astronomy observing reports
[05:15] <BrightAmbition> k
[05:17] <sn9> l
[05:19] <BrightAmbition> m
[05:19] <BrightAmbition> lol
[05:22] <sn9> CoC
[05:23] <akk> rtfm rofl
[05:24] <akk> (I saw a Chinese woman yesterday wearing a t-shirt that said LMAO with a picture of Mao :)
[05:24] <MarkDude> lol
[05:25] <nUboon2Age> Tuesday met Sunnyvale former mayor Fred Fowler advocating City move to Open Office from m$ Office. i think he might become one of us @ some point ;-)
[05:25] <BrightAmbition> who's Mao?
[05:25] <nUboon2Age> BA as in Mao Tse Tung?
[05:25]  * BrightAmbition is lost
[05:26] <BrightAmbition> *brain fart*
[05:26] <BrightAmbition> lol
[05:26] <sn9> standard pinyin spelling is Mao Zedong, i thought
[05:27] <MarkDude> One of the dude's on the 404 podcast had a cat named Meow Tse Tung, or just chaiman Meow
[05:27] <akk> It's changed over the years. Mao Tse Tung used to be a more common spelling.
[05:27] <akk> haha, MarkDude
[05:27] <MarkDude> Justin Yu of CNET :)
[05:28] <sn9> akk: history books when i was in school said Tse-Tung, but that's not pinyin afaik
[05:29] <MarkDude> sn9, do you think the cat cared about the spelling when it was called ? XD
[05:29] <sn9> meow
[05:29] <MarkDude> lol
[05:29] <BrightAmbition> nyan nyan ^-^
[05:30] <sn9> i have something to say about that, but not in a publicly logged channel
[05:32] <BrightAmbition> lol
[16:56] <philipballew> does anyone know if im cp'ing files in the cli how i can see the output of what im coping easily? or a progress type indicator?
[16:57] <pleia2> -v
[16:58] <philipballew> thanks!
[17:47] <DarkwingDuck> Morning.
[17:48] <seidos> morning DarkwingDuck.  how is st. canard?
[17:48] <DarkwingDuck> It is well.
[17:49] <seidos> good to hear
[17:51] <seidos> i'm reading these:  http://www.stallmanfacts.com/all
[17:51] <seidos> i think i've seen some of them before...
[19:21]  * seidos wonders how awesome a weapon a particle accelerator would be
[19:21] <seidos> rail gun comes to mind
[19:22] <MarkDude> Still does not measure up to best anti-zombie weapon
[19:22] <akk> As long as you can get your enemies to come stand inside your accelerator ...
[19:22] <MarkDude> rocket powered chainsaw
[19:23] <MarkDude> http://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/RPC2-560-x-363.jpg
[19:23] <MarkDude> seidos, did you hear about that organic laser they made with a jellyfish?
[19:24] <seidos> MarkDude: nope
[19:24] <seidos> i would think it would be possible to make a small enough particle accelerator, like on a ship or something, with like an exit point for the particle
[19:24] <MarkDude> http://scienceray.com/physics/jellyfish-becomes-laser/
[19:25] <seidos> MarkDude: did you hear about the immortal jellyfish?
[19:25] <MarkDude> I think it would come down to energy needed to form damaging ray
[19:25] <MarkDude> No I have not
[19:26] <MarkDude> Well the other issue I have with that bigass accelerator is that some people are saying it is the search for the God particle
[19:26] <seidos> MarkDude: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Turritopsis_nutricula
[19:26] <seidos> the "God particle" is probably a photon, either that or total emptiness
[19:26] <seidos> but yeah, Higg's Boson
[19:27] <seidos> isn't it like an anti-electron or something?
[19:27] <MarkDude> I mean no need to go waaaaaay out of your way to say- hey what you believe sucks, almost sounds EXACTLY like what that naming rebels against :P
[19:27] <seidos> i don't understand the 2nd part
[19:27] <MarkDude> Hey your ideas you tried to push on me suck-
[19:27] <MarkDude> So I will do exactly the same
[19:28] <seidos> i got that, but "...what that naming rebels against"
[19:28] <MarkDude> its an atheist/agnostic
[19:28] <akk> I don't think any particle physicists call it the "god particle".
[19:28] <MarkDude> saying they are tired of others pushing
[19:28] <akk> That's media people trying to get headlines.
[19:28] <MarkDude> akk
[19:28] <MarkDude> yes
[19:28] <MarkDude> vested interests
[19:28] <seidos> i wouldn't know, i don't know any particle physicists
[19:28] <akk> Just like all the people saying "living cell laser!" when it's actually "if you take luminescent dye from a cell you can build a laser around it".
[19:28] <seidos> i think jdeslip is a physicist, we met...2 times
[19:29] <seidos> :P
[19:29] <akk> Distort what really happened then make a press release.
[19:29]  * MarkDude figures best to steer clear of my God can beat up your God, let alone journalists saying their science can beat up (fill in blank
[19:29] <seidos> so we're not going to have starship trooper like aliens shooting ballistic energy balls out of their abdomens?
[19:29] <MarkDude> akk, you always just focus on reality
[19:29] <MarkDude> :D
[19:30] <seidos> my cousin got his masters in physics, but he does web development now
[19:30] <MarkDude> seidos, not until google decides it wants to do that
[19:30] <seidos> akk is a vulcan
[19:30] <MarkDude> lol
[19:30] <akk> live long and prosper
[19:30] <MarkDude> akk, has the logic of a Vulcan
[19:30] <seidos> ditto
[19:30] <MarkDude> Spocks Dad no less
[19:30] <seidos> Yoda can't do the live long and prosper "mudra"
[19:31] <seidos> well, i guess if he pressed his thumb...anyway...
[19:31] <seidos> Logic can be used to justify anything
[19:31] <MarkDude> Yoda could create that picture(or many others) in your mind tho seidos
[19:31] <seidos> that's its power
[19:32] <seidos> then he'd laugh like a cute munchkin and run away
[19:32]  * MarkDude just does not like when anyone goes out of their way to piss on other's belief systems, or lack thereof
[19:33] <seidos> well finding certainty in an uncertain world is one thing, pissing on beliefs is another
[19:33] <MarkDude> Let people have their magic- ---- as long as they dont try to push it on you, that would be the all around line
[19:33] <MarkDude> you are correct seidos
[19:33] <seidos> well, magic is useless if it doesn't affect reality in some way
[19:33] <akk> Right. If people don't try to impose their religion on me, I'm respectful of theirs.
[19:33] <seidos> and some may argue this is it being "pushed on them"
[19:33] <akk> When they start trying to make laws to impose it on me I get irritated and start wanting to push back.
[19:34] <seidos> yeah, i'm not a fan of theocracy.
[19:34] <MarkDude> akk, +1
[19:35]  * MarkDude lived in Santa Cruz and saw people doing all sorts of weird stuff, I was like- hey if it makes you happy, you arfe not forcing it on me, or will still take your sick kid to Dr. - have at it
[19:35] <akk> I've sadly gotten less tolerant of religions lately because of all the theocratic tendencies during the bush administration.
[19:35] <seidos> akk: +1 to your dexterity
[19:35] <MarkDude> +lots
[19:35] <seidos> you may need it
[19:36]  * seidos pats MarkDude 
[19:36] <MarkDude> Ty :)
[19:36] <seidos> squirrel!
[19:37] <seidos> i saw a squirrel the other day.  i talked to it.
[19:37] <MarkDude> I mean if people want to doubt the Flying Spaghetti Monster, that is their loss ;)
[19:37] <seidos> no stem cell research, i'm trying to think of another theocratic tendency of the bush administration
[19:37] <seidos> i am convinced everything is real, somewhere, someplace
[19:38] <seidos> that is probably both the beauty and horror of reality
[19:38] <seidos> except the Star Wars Universe, that happened already
[19:38] <MarkDude> all things are not only possible, but ARE?
[19:38]  * MarkDude wants to hang out with some Ewoks
[19:39] <seidos> well, if it's possible...
[19:39] <seidos> i guess it's a question of time if it's possible
[19:39] <MarkDude> Those little peeps can party
[19:39] <pleia2> MarkDude: bringing a big ole back of charcoal on BART would be hard, are there any small things I can bring aside from chips and stuff?
[19:39] <MarkDude> I have charcoal
[19:39] <pleia2> MarkDude: I'm also happy to pitch in if we need to drive to the store while we're at the park :)
[19:39] <MarkDude> Cool
[19:39] <pleia2> s/back/bag
[19:39]  * MarkDude did not even hit MLs with this
[19:39] <pleia2> yeah
[19:40] <pleia2> we can do our bigger picnic next month :)
[19:40] <MarkDude> That was the thing about scaling back for this month
[19:40] <MarkDude> How would July 9th work for Vasona Lake?
[19:40] <MarkDude> Have date set for next
[19:40] <MarkDude> That was the goal last year
[19:40] <pleia2> that's the same day as CABAL
[19:41] <pleia2> does the 16th work?
[19:41] <MarkDude> Sure
[19:41] <MarkDude> But no tthe 17th
[19:41] <pleia2> and not the 23rd or 24th :)
[19:41] <MarkDude> That is MC Hammer bobblehead day for the A's
[19:41] <pleia2> haha
[19:41] <pleia2> can't miss that!
[19:41] <MarkDude> Well yes I leave the 18th
[19:41] <MarkDude> for OSCON
[19:41] <MarkDude> CLS
[19:42] <pleia2> the 10th is BerkeleyLUG
[19:42] <pleia2> so it looks like the 16th is the best option, if you can swing it before OSCON (I know you'll be kinda busy preparing)
[19:42] <MarkDude> And hella people drinking PBR, with tattoos and freak bikes
[19:42] <akk> I'll probably be here the 9th but not the 16th.
[19:42] <MarkDude> Damn
[19:42] <pleia2> I mean, we can do it the same day as CABAL, it doesn't start until later in the day
[19:43] <MarkDude> Well- I know most of our events have been Cabal days
[19:43] <akk> could it be sunday, the day after cabal? would that help?
[19:43] <pleia2> akk: that conflicts with berkeleylug
[19:43]  * MarkDude respects the Godfather of Bay Are Linux
[19:43] <MarkDude> :D
[19:43] <MarkDude> Vasona has music on Saturdays
[19:44] <pleia2> well, the 9th and 16th work for me, I was just pointing out CABAL because we'll be posting to all his mailing lists ;)
[19:44] <pleia2> it's up to you
[19:52] <MarkDude> Well lets seee what music is goijng on
[19:53] <MarkDude> http://www.southbayfolks.org/vasona/#psched
[19:53] <MarkDude> Although the band *kitchen help would tie in with GK
[19:53] <MarkDude> the jug band does sound awesome
[19:53] <pleia2> hehe
[19:54] <MarkDude> Well we can get more input- and if needed- flip a coin
[19:55] <MarkDude> seidos, you have heard the joke about the Buddhist going to the hotdog vendor- and asking *to make him ONE with EVERYTHING*?
[19:55]  * MarkDude loves that one
[19:56] <seidos> MarkDude: yeah, and change comes from within
[19:56] <MarkDude> lol
[19:56] <seidos> i actually said that to a guy that asked me for change when i was in SF
[19:56] <MarkDude> yep
[19:56] <seidos> i think i just pissed him off
[19:57] <MarkDude> Oh well
[19:57] <MarkDude> His fault
[19:57] <MarkDude> he was in SF
[19:57] <MarkDude> Might be on you if you were in Orange County :P
[19:58] <seidos> i hear ya'
[19:58] <seidos> if i ever go back to orange county it will be too soon
[19:58] <MarkDude> no doubt
[19:59] <MarkDude> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5M_Ttstbgs
[19:59] <MarkDude> OC reminds me of the Buffalo Springfield - For What Its Worth
[19:59] <MarkDude> Theres something happening here
[20:00] <MarkDude> What it is ain't exactly clear
[20:02] <seidos> i dunno, i saw Tito Ortiz running in HB
[20:02] <seidos> when i used to hang out at the bars there
[20:04] <MarkDude> Well HB has the extremes
[20:04]  * MarkDude remebers taking surfboard on bus to go to beach
[20:05] <MarkDude> the rule was back of the bus with them
[20:05] <MarkDude> that is sooooooo Cali
[20:05] <MarkDude> awesome
[20:06] <MarkDude> Have you seen Samuel L Jackson reading *Go the F**k to sleep? Totally NSFW, but hella funny
[20:06] <MarkDude> its a kids book (really for adults)
[20:06] <seidos> nah, i haven't
[20:06] <seidos> cool song btw
[20:06] <seidos> goes without saying, it's like a classic
[20:07] <MarkDude> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTugz1TYbM0    <<<< that link has the F bombs in it
[20:07] <MarkDude> no clicky at work
[20:08] <seidos> i tried taking a skateboard onto a bus, i think i was in lynwood or something, and the bus driver said they weren't allowed on
[20:08] <MarkDude> depending on your work
[20:08] <seidos> i don't have a job, that isn't a concern
[20:08]  * MarkDude always thought the sticker should not say skateboarding is not a crime
[20:09] <seidos> MarkDude: have you heard this one?  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bcpbkswsi9Y
[20:09]  * MarkDude thought it should be: skateboarding ought not be a crime
[20:09] <akk> Truer but less catchy.
[20:10] <akk> But, skateboards not allowed on a bus? That's really crazy.
[20:11] <MarkDude> I almost understand the 4.5 ft longboards
[20:11] <MarkDude> but not regular ones
[20:11] <seidos> i didn't argue, i thought it was poetic justice.  the driver was black, aka Big Red
[20:11] <MarkDude> Just pull a Maty McFly and grab the back of the bus
[20:11] <seidos> i think New Orleans is another interesting place
[20:11] <MarkDude> Marty
[20:12] <seidos> nah, i found another way home
[20:12] <seidos> skating is cool, but i didn't like how it would only work out one side of my body
[20:12] <seidos> and skating switch is hard
[20:13]  * MarkDude was told not to wave his arms around so much while in Louisiana - we dont care if you are Italian- it looks like you are getting ready to make a punch
[20:13] <seidos> i don't have the same complaint with surfing, but that's probably because i spent more time paddeling than actually riding waves
[20:13] <MarkDude> It make us flinch
[20:14]  * MarkDude kept hands in pockets while in Oak Grove LA
[20:14] <seidos> paddling*
[20:14] <seidos> i put my hands behind my back a lot
[20:14] <seidos> i don't like fingers pointing
[20:14]  * MarkDude waves his hands in all directions
[20:15]  * seidos wiggles his hands and makes funny noises
[20:15] <MarkDude> Surfing is cool. I would suggest that you spend more time BEing while in water
[20:15] <MarkDude> 2nd is paddling
[20:15] <MarkDude> then maybe 4th is actually surfing
[20:15] <seidos> yeah, i did that last time
[20:15] <seidos> i'll probably do a lot of body surfing this summer
[20:15] <MarkDude> Body surfing is fun
[20:16] <MarkDude> It feels cool to have a 4-5 ft wave slam you
[20:16] <seidos> that's what i hear, and i know it's possible, i'm just better with a boogie board
[20:16] <MarkDude> When they get bigger- not so much
[20:16] <seidos> nah, i don't like being slammed
[20:17] <MarkDude> Maybe its because I have been slammed by 7-10 ft stuff- that scared the hell out of me-
[20:17] <MarkDude> washing machine spin cycle
[20:18] <seidos> i haven't been slammed by 7-10, but i did try paddling out on a boogie board once with big surf, couldn't do it
[20:18] <seidos> strange...maybe i was and i don't remember o_o
[20:19] <seidos> dropping in on 7+ would be terrifying, 5 foot is bad enough
[20:25] <seidos> blaming anyone else is pointless
[20:25] <seidos> though, i would say i'm not sure exactly what a "winner" even is
[20:26] <MarkDude> Well the ocean makes me feel humble
[20:26] <MarkDude> Anytime you go to the beach- it is good to respect its power
[20:30] <seidos> agreed
[20:30] <seidos> er, yeah that was meant for another channel
[20:31] <MarkDude> Well its ok
[20:31] <MarkDude> you can agree the ocean is powerful
[20:31] <pleia2> hehe
[20:31] <seidos> oh no, not that, the 2 sentences above it
[20:31] <pleia2> ocean++
[20:32] <MarkDude> Most do.
[20:32] <seidos> though, it kind of fits
[20:32] <MarkDude> Oh good
[20:32] <MarkDude> seidos, I was struggling to see how that related :D
[20:32] <seidos> MarkDude: i'm talking to someone else about my current financial situation
[20:33] <seidos> it's comedy and tragedy!  :D D:
[20:39]  * MarkDude understands
[20:39] <MarkDude> the employment search for me starts at end of July
[20:40]  * MarkDude is marketing himself as cut-rate jono - halfway between him and Karsten Wade (Fedoras CM)
[20:41] <MarkDude> Sure you would LIKE to hire jono but he's really expensive
[20:42]  * MarkDude needs to leave coffee shop and get ready for loud music show tonight Severed Fifth in SF \m/
[20:44] <seidos> i'm marketing myself as me
[20:44] <seidos> nothing less, nothing more
[20:45] <seidos> hey philipballew, how goes it?
[20:45] <MarkDude> Good plan seidos . You are more *reality based* than I choose to be
[20:45] <MarkDude> ttyl
[20:47] <sn9> BrightAmbition: are we going to the geeknic tomorrow?
[20:47] <seidos> i think i just got "hit and runned"
[20:49] <BrightAmbition> sn9: Do any of your friends play guitar?
[20:52] <sn9> there will quite likely be someone there who can teach
[20:53] <sn9> idk who, though
[21:01] <BrightAmbition> sn9: ok, cool
[21:32] <philipballew> hey seidos whats up!
[21:34] <seidos> philipballew: working on my site
[21:35] <philipballew> nice! what you doin to it?
[21:35] <philipballew> seidos,
[21:35] <seidos> philipballew: trying to put up a banner that i made
[21:36] <philipballew> oh sweet. i want to get into hosting websites
[21:38] <seidos> i'm not hosting it, i'm just using blogger
[21:38] <seidos> and pointing it to http://fictionalphilosophy.org
[21:43] <seidos> let me know if you get into hosting sites philipballew, assuming you have the bandwidth, i wouldn't mind moving my site over
[21:44] <seidos> i can afford $0 a month :|
[21:45] <philipballew> oh nice! how much does your domain cost if you dont mind?
[21:56]  * MarkDude wants to see if SF can cover this Nyan Cat (New Heavy Metal Version) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3WIs6j7g4w
[21:58] <seidos> philipballew: i think it's like $9
[21:58] <philipballew> thats not bad at all
[22:00] <seidos> MarkDude: stupendous
[22:01] <MarkDude> That song just gets stuck in your mind
[22:01] <seidos> MarkDude: i think it's better methamphetamine
[22:01] <seidos> *than
[22:04] <MarkDude> lol
[22:12] <NyanyNyan> It is
[22:12] <NyanyNyan> lol
[22:13] <NyanyNyan> I wish the Nyan Cat would dance or do something else
[22:13] <NyanyNyan> lol
[22:16] <Usagi-San> Grr i can't decide which name i want
[22:16]  * Usagi-San could never make up her mind
[22:19] <Usagi_San> hell
[22:19] <Usagi_San> hello
[22:19] <Usagi_San> lol
[22:19] <Usagi_San> sorry
[22:19] <Usagi_San> typos
[22:34] <seidos> hell-oh
[22:34] <philipballew> sup!
[22:35] <seidos> http://www.naturalnews.com/032718_L-cysteine_commercial_bread.html
[22:35] <seidos> calgon take me away
[22:41] <pleia2> this reapproval app is going to take me about 100 years to write
[22:41] <pleia2> help appreciated :)
[22:42]  * MarkDude is of no help to you pleia2 - I can promote it once done
[22:43] <seidos> what's it written in pleia2 ?
[22:44] <pleia2> seidos: it's on the wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/ApprovalApplication2011
[22:44] <pleia2> basing it on Project pages and TeamReport pages
[22:45] <pleia2> (this is the "Experience" section)
[22:49] <seidos> ah, it's an "application", like an application for a license
[22:49] <seidos> not an app
[22:50] <seidos> the application goes to the loco council i take it?
[22:50] <pleia2> yep, here are the details: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-ca/2011-May/001691.html
[22:53] <seidos> what are they looking for?
[22:54] <seidos> i have no idea what your vision is for it pleia2, i am willing to help but i don't want to slow you down.  feel free to pm me though if you think i can be an asset
[22:55] <pleia2> reapproval is pretty much the same as initial approval, which is documented here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/TeamApprovalGuidelines
[22:55] <pleia2> the app currently has examples of what we want from it, so you just do the same as I did for other events already on the app
[22:55]  * pleia2 is taking a break for now :)
[22:58] <seidos> well, if it were up to me i'd rearrange the list to make it most recent event first
[22:58] <seidos> and the only "events" i can vaguely recall are ubucon @ scale
[22:58] <seidos> and the booth @ scale
[22:59] <seidos> i'm working on my site, it's really my first attempt at xml
[23:21] <seidos> well, this is bad, i can't even sign in to wiki.ubuntu.com
[23:21] <pleia2> they upgraded it yesterday and are still working out the kinks
[23:21] <pleia2> it took me a few tries
[23:22] <pleia2> the sysadmins are aware of the problem
[23:23] <seidos> i did a few, two different browsers
[23:23] <seidos> tries that is
[23:23] <seidos> ah well, back to my own site
[23:47] <seidos> yay, done.  now it looks about twice as weak as before
[23:48] <seidos> i was screwing around with the xml, and then managed to do it by adding the "gadget" using the gui
[23:48] <seidos> go me