[02:54] ubuntu Hour: Mountain View is in the house, pleia2, jledbetter, jtatum, mpontillo, jyo, jamalta, akk, crashsystems, crashsystems1, broder [02:54] nUboon2Age: on call this week so my ability to travel is limited, have fun :) [02:54] sorry i'm missing out ubuntu hour, still in the office because of an outtage, have fun everyone! [02:58] sorry to miss you pleia2, jamalta, but we'll attempt to "stay calm and carry on" as they say. ;-) [02:58] nUboon2Age: have fun :) [03:55] jtatum, raise a ruckus for me [03:56] i'm flailing my arms [03:58] jtatum, good job [04:04] nUboon2Age: http://itsthisforthat.com/ [04:09] that website kept us in stitches tonight. good times @ UH:MV [04:11] rofl [04:11] Good stuff [04:11] thanks jtatum, akk and Dave for a fun entertaing evening. ;-) [04:11] That link represents a billion in VC money [04:11] :) [04:17] website? [04:19] nUboon2Age: http://itsthisforthat.com/ [04:19] sn9: ^^^ [04:20] sn9, is BrightAmbition you? [04:21] nUboon2Age: no she is not, even if sometimes we do seem to be the same person in some ways [04:22] sn9 ;-) [04:22] think back to the mini-geeknic at aaditya's [04:22] you'll remember her [04:23] akk is working on an online python course! [04:24] i've been playing with the new cat who adopted me yesterday, Brendan [04:25] hello :) [04:25] yes sn9, i do recall. :-) [04:25] hey! [04:25] * BrightAmbition is muilti-tasking [04:25] me.too [04:26] my face s sore from lauging so hard [04:27] laughing [04:29] see also akk 's shollowsky.com/obsreport.cgi [04:30] http://shallowsky.com/obsreport.cgi [04:31] astronomy observing reports [05:15] k [05:17] l [05:19] m [05:19] lol [05:22] CoC [05:23] rtfm rofl [05:24] (I saw a Chinese woman yesterday wearing a t-shirt that said LMAO with a picture of Mao :) [05:24] lol [05:25] Tuesday met Sunnyvale former mayor Fred Fowler advocating City move to Open Office from m$ Office. i think he might become one of us @ some point ;-) [05:25] who's Mao? [05:25] BA as in Mao Tse Tung? [05:25] * BrightAmbition is lost [05:26] *brain fart* [05:26] lol [05:26] standard pinyin spelling is Mao Zedong, i thought [05:27] One of the dude's on the 404 podcast had a cat named Meow Tse Tung, or just chaiman Meow [05:27] It's changed over the years. Mao Tse Tung used to be a more common spelling. [05:27] haha, MarkDude [05:27] Justin Yu of CNET :) [05:28] akk: history books when i was in school said Tse-Tung, but that's not pinyin afaik [05:29] sn9, do you think the cat cared about the spelling when it was called ? XD [05:29] meow [05:29] lol [05:29] nyan nyan ^-^ [05:30] i have something to say about that, but not in a publicly logged channel [05:32] lol [16:56] does anyone know if im cp'ing files in the cli how i can see the output of what im coping easily? or a progress type indicator? [16:57] -v [16:58] thanks! [17:47] Morning. [17:48] morning DarkwingDuck. how is st. canard? [17:48] It is well. [17:49] good to hear [17:51] i'm reading these: http://www.stallmanfacts.com/all [17:51] i think i've seen some of them before... [19:21] * seidos wonders how awesome a weapon a particle accelerator would be [19:21] rail gun comes to mind [19:22] Still does not measure up to best anti-zombie weapon [19:22] As long as you can get your enemies to come stand inside your accelerator ... [19:22] rocket powered chainsaw [19:23] http://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/RPC2-560-x-363.jpg [19:23] seidos, did you hear about that organic laser they made with a jellyfish? [19:24] MarkDude: nope [19:24] i would think it would be possible to make a small enough particle accelerator, like on a ship or something, with like an exit point for the particle [19:24] http://scienceray.com/physics/jellyfish-becomes-laser/ [19:25] MarkDude: did you hear about the immortal jellyfish? [19:25] I think it would come down to energy needed to form damaging ray [19:25] No I have not [19:26] Well the other issue I have with that bigass accelerator is that some people are saying it is the search for the God particle [19:26] MarkDude: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Turritopsis_nutricula [19:26] the "God particle" is probably a photon, either that or total emptiness [19:26] but yeah, Higg's Boson [19:27] isn't it like an anti-electron or something? [19:27] I mean no need to go waaaaaay out of your way to say- hey what you believe sucks, almost sounds EXACTLY like what that naming rebels against :P [19:27] i don't understand the 2nd part [19:27] Hey your ideas you tried to push on me suck- [19:27] So I will do exactly the same [19:28] i got that, but "...what that naming rebels against" [19:28] its an atheist/agnostic [19:28] I don't think any particle physicists call it the "god particle". [19:28] saying they are tired of others pushing [19:28] That's media people trying to get headlines. [19:28] akk [19:28] yes [19:28] vested interests [19:28] i wouldn't know, i don't know any particle physicists [19:28] Just like all the people saying "living cell laser!" when it's actually "if you take luminescent dye from a cell you can build a laser around it". [19:28] i think jdeslip is a physicist, we met...2 times [19:29] :P [19:29] Distort what really happened then make a press release. [19:29] * MarkDude figures best to steer clear of my God can beat up your God, let alone journalists saying their science can beat up (fill in blank [19:29] so we're not going to have starship trooper like aliens shooting ballistic energy balls out of their abdomens? [19:29] akk, you always just focus on reality [19:29] :D [19:30] my cousin got his masters in physics, but he does web development now [19:30] seidos, not until google decides it wants to do that [19:30] akk is a vulcan [19:30] lol [19:30] live long and prosper [19:30] akk, has the logic of a Vulcan [19:30] ditto [19:30] Spocks Dad no less [19:30] Yoda can't do the live long and prosper "mudra" [19:31] well, i guess if he pressed his thumb...anyway... [19:31] Logic can be used to justify anything [19:31] Yoda could create that picture(or many others) in your mind tho seidos [19:31] that's its power [19:32] then he'd laugh like a cute munchkin and run away [19:32] * MarkDude just does not like when anyone goes out of their way to piss on other's belief systems, or lack thereof [19:33] well finding certainty in an uncertain world is one thing, pissing on beliefs is another [19:33] Let people have their magic- ---- as long as they dont try to push it on you, that would be the all around line [19:33] you are correct seidos [19:33] well, magic is useless if it doesn't affect reality in some way [19:33] Right. If people don't try to impose their religion on me, I'm respectful of theirs. [19:33] and some may argue this is it being "pushed on them" [19:33] When they start trying to make laws to impose it on me I get irritated and start wanting to push back. [19:34] yeah, i'm not a fan of theocracy. [19:34] akk, +1 [19:35] * MarkDude lived in Santa Cruz and saw people doing all sorts of weird stuff, I was like- hey if it makes you happy, you arfe not forcing it on me, or will still take your sick kid to Dr. - have at it [19:35] I've sadly gotten less tolerant of religions lately because of all the theocratic tendencies during the bush administration. [19:35] akk: +1 to your dexterity [19:35] +lots [19:35] you may need it [19:36] * seidos pats MarkDude [19:36] Ty :) [19:36] squirrel! [19:37] i saw a squirrel the other day. i talked to it. [19:37] I mean if people want to doubt the Flying Spaghetti Monster, that is their loss ;) [19:37] no stem cell research, i'm trying to think of another theocratic tendency of the bush administration [19:37] i am convinced everything is real, somewhere, someplace [19:38] that is probably both the beauty and horror of reality [19:38] except the Star Wars Universe, that happened already [19:38] all things are not only possible, but ARE? [19:38] * MarkDude wants to hang out with some Ewoks [19:39] well, if it's possible... [19:39] i guess it's a question of time if it's possible [19:39] Those little peeps can party [19:39] MarkDude: bringing a big ole back of charcoal on BART would be hard, are there any small things I can bring aside from chips and stuff? [19:39] I have charcoal [19:39] MarkDude: I'm also happy to pitch in if we need to drive to the store while we're at the park :) [19:39] Cool [19:39] s/back/bag [19:39] * MarkDude did not even hit MLs with this [19:39] yeah [19:40] we can do our bigger picnic next month :) [19:40] That was the thing about scaling back for this month [19:40] How would July 9th work for Vasona Lake? [19:40] Have date set for next [19:40] That was the goal last year [19:40] that's the same day as CABAL [19:41] does the 16th work? [19:41] Sure [19:41] But no tthe 17th [19:41] and not the 23rd or 24th :) [19:41] That is MC Hammer bobblehead day for the A's [19:41] haha [19:41] can't miss that! [19:41] Well yes I leave the 18th [19:41] for OSCON [19:41] CLS [19:42] the 10th is BerkeleyLUG [19:42] so it looks like the 16th is the best option, if you can swing it before OSCON (I know you'll be kinda busy preparing) [19:42] And hella people drinking PBR, with tattoos and freak bikes [19:42] I'll probably be here the 9th but not the 16th. [19:42] Damn [19:42] I mean, we can do it the same day as CABAL, it doesn't start until later in the day [19:43] Well- I know most of our events have been Cabal days [19:43] could it be sunday, the day after cabal? would that help? [19:43] akk: that conflicts with berkeleylug [19:43] * MarkDude respects the Godfather of Bay Are Linux [19:43] :D [19:43] Vasona has music on Saturdays [19:44] well, the 9th and 16th work for me, I was just pointing out CABAL because we'll be posting to all his mailing lists ;) [19:44] it's up to you [19:52] Well lets seee what music is goijng on [19:53] http://www.southbayfolks.org/vasona/#psched [19:53] Although the band *kitchen help would tie in with GK [19:53] the jug band does sound awesome [19:53] hehe [19:54] Well we can get more input- and if needed- flip a coin [19:55] seidos, you have heard the joke about the Buddhist going to the hotdog vendor- and asking *to make him ONE with EVERYTHING*? [19:55] * MarkDude loves that one [19:56] MarkDude: yeah, and change comes from within [19:56] lol [19:56] i actually said that to a guy that asked me for change when i was in SF [19:56] yep [19:56] i think i just pissed him off [19:57] Oh well [19:57] His fault [19:57] he was in SF [19:57] Might be on you if you were in Orange County :P [19:58] i hear ya' [19:58] if i ever go back to orange county it will be too soon [19:58] no doubt [19:59] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5M_Ttstbgs [19:59] OC reminds me of the Buffalo Springfield - For What Its Worth [19:59] Theres something happening here [20:00] What it is ain't exactly clear [20:02] i dunno, i saw Tito Ortiz running in HB [20:02] when i used to hang out at the bars there [20:04] Well HB has the extremes [20:04] * MarkDude remebers taking surfboard on bus to go to beach [20:05] the rule was back of the bus with them [20:05] that is sooooooo Cali [20:05] awesome [20:06] Have you seen Samuel L Jackson reading *Go the F**k to sleep? Totally NSFW, but hella funny [20:06] its a kids book (really for adults) [20:06] nah, i haven't [20:06] cool song btw [20:06] goes without saying, it's like a classic [20:07] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTugz1TYbM0 <<<< that link has the F bombs in it [20:07] no clicky at work [20:08] i tried taking a skateboard onto a bus, i think i was in lynwood or something, and the bus driver said they weren't allowed on [20:08] depending on your work [20:08] i don't have a job, that isn't a concern [20:08] * MarkDude always thought the sticker should not say skateboarding is not a crime [20:09] MarkDude: have you heard this one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bcpbkswsi9Y [20:09] * MarkDude thought it should be: skateboarding ought not be a crime [20:09] Truer but less catchy. [20:10] But, skateboards not allowed on a bus? That's really crazy. [20:11] I almost understand the 4.5 ft longboards [20:11] but not regular ones [20:11] i didn't argue, i thought it was poetic justice. the driver was black, aka Big Red [20:11] Just pull a Maty McFly and grab the back of the bus [20:11] i think New Orleans is another interesting place [20:11] Marty [20:12] nah, i found another way home [20:12] skating is cool, but i didn't like how it would only work out one side of my body [20:12] and skating switch is hard [20:13] * MarkDude was told not to wave his arms around so much while in Louisiana - we dont care if you are Italian- it looks like you are getting ready to make a punch [20:13] i don't have the same complaint with surfing, but that's probably because i spent more time paddeling than actually riding waves [20:13] It make us flinch [20:14] * MarkDude kept hands in pockets while in Oak Grove LA [20:14] paddling* [20:14] i put my hands behind my back a lot [20:14] i don't like fingers pointing [20:14] * MarkDude waves his hands in all directions [20:15] * seidos wiggles his hands and makes funny noises [20:15] Surfing is cool. I would suggest that you spend more time BEing while in water [20:15] 2nd is paddling [20:15] then maybe 4th is actually surfing [20:15] yeah, i did that last time [20:15] i'll probably do a lot of body surfing this summer [20:15] Body surfing is fun [20:16] It feels cool to have a 4-5 ft wave slam you [20:16] that's what i hear, and i know it's possible, i'm just better with a boogie board [20:16] When they get bigger- not so much [20:16] nah, i don't like being slammed [20:17] Maybe its because I have been slammed by 7-10 ft stuff- that scared the hell out of me- [20:17] washing machine spin cycle [20:18] i haven't been slammed by 7-10, but i did try paddling out on a boogie board once with big surf, couldn't do it [20:18] strange...maybe i was and i don't remember o_o [20:19] dropping in on 7+ would be terrifying, 5 foot is bad enough [20:25] blaming anyone else is pointless [20:25] though, i would say i'm not sure exactly what a "winner" even is [20:26] Well the ocean makes me feel humble [20:26] Anytime you go to the beach- it is good to respect its power [20:30] agreed [20:30] er, yeah that was meant for another channel [20:31] Well its ok [20:31] you can agree the ocean is powerful [20:31] hehe [20:31] oh no, not that, the 2 sentences above it [20:31] ocean++ [20:32] Most do. [20:32] though, it kind of fits [20:32] Oh good [20:32] seidos, I was struggling to see how that related :D [20:32] MarkDude: i'm talking to someone else about my current financial situation [20:33] it's comedy and tragedy! :D D: [20:39] * MarkDude understands [20:39] the employment search for me starts at end of July [20:40] * MarkDude is marketing himself as cut-rate jono - halfway between him and Karsten Wade (Fedoras CM) [20:41] Sure you would LIKE to hire jono but he's really expensive [20:42] * MarkDude needs to leave coffee shop and get ready for loud music show tonight Severed Fifth in SF \m/ [20:44] i'm marketing myself as me [20:44] nothing less, nothing more [20:45] hey philipballew, how goes it? [20:45] Good plan seidos . You are more *reality based* than I choose to be [20:45] ttyl [20:47] BrightAmbition: are we going to the geeknic tomorrow? [20:47] i think i just got "hit and runned" [20:49] sn9: Do any of your friends play guitar? [20:52] there will quite likely be someone there who can teach [20:53] idk who, though [21:01] sn9: ok, cool === BrightAmbition is now known as Usagi [21:32] hey seidos whats up! === Usagi is now known as NyanAmbition [21:34] philipballew: working on my site [21:35] nice! what you doin to it? [21:35] seidos, [21:35] philipballew: trying to put up a banner that i made [21:36] oh sweet. i want to get into hosting websites === NyanAmbition is now known as NyanNyan === NyanNyan is now known as NyanyNyan [21:38] i'm not hosting it, i'm just using blogger [21:38] and pointing it to http://fictionalphilosophy.org [21:43] let me know if you get into hosting sites philipballew, assuming you have the bandwidth, i wouldn't mind moving my site over [21:44] i can afford $0 a month :| [21:45] oh nice! how much does your domain cost if you dont mind? [21:56] * MarkDude wants to see if SF can cover this Nyan Cat (New Heavy Metal Version) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3WIs6j7g4w [21:58] philipballew: i think it's like $9 [21:58] thats not bad at all [22:00] MarkDude: stupendous [22:01] That song just gets stuck in your mind [22:01] MarkDude: i think it's better methamphetamine [22:01] *than [22:04] lol [22:12] It is [22:12] lol [22:13] I wish the Nyan Cat would dance or do something else [22:13] lol === NyanyNyan is now known as Dango === Dango is now known as Usagi-Chan === Usagi-Chan is now known as Usagi-San [22:16] Grr i can't decide which name i want [22:16] * Usagi-San could never make up her mind === Usagi-San is now known as Usagi_San [22:19] hell [22:19] hello [22:19] lol [22:19] sorry [22:19] typos [22:34] hell-oh [22:34] sup! [22:35] http://www.naturalnews.com/032718_L-cysteine_commercial_bread.html [22:35] calgon take me away [22:41] this reapproval app is going to take me about 100 years to write [22:41] help appreciated :) [22:42] * MarkDude is of no help to you pleia2 - I can promote it once done [22:43] what's it written in pleia2 ? [22:44] seidos: it's on the wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/ApprovalApplication2011 [22:44] basing it on Project pages and TeamReport pages [22:45] (this is the "Experience" section) [22:49] ah, it's an "application", like an application for a license [22:49] not an app [22:50] the application goes to the loco council i take it? [22:50] yep, here are the details: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-ca/2011-May/001691.html [22:53] what are they looking for? [22:54] i have no idea what your vision is for it pleia2, i am willing to help but i don't want to slow you down. feel free to pm me though if you think i can be an asset [22:55] reapproval is pretty much the same as initial approval, which is documented here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/TeamApprovalGuidelines [22:55] the app currently has examples of what we want from it, so you just do the same as I did for other events already on the app [22:55] * pleia2 is taking a break for now :) [22:58] well, if it were up to me i'd rearrange the list to make it most recent event first [22:58] and the only "events" i can vaguely recall are ubucon @ scale [22:58] and the booth @ scale [22:59] i'm working on my site, it's really my first attempt at xml [23:21] well, this is bad, i can't even sign in to wiki.ubuntu.com [23:21] they upgraded it yesterday and are still working out the kinks [23:21] it took me a few tries [23:22] the sysadmins are aware of the problem [23:23] i did a few, two different browsers [23:23] tries that is [23:23] ah well, back to my own site [23:47] yay, done. now it looks about twice as weak as before [23:48] i was screwing around with the xml, and then managed to do it by adding the "gadget" using the gui [23:48] go me