[02:40] <mhall119> itnet7: ping
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[05:01] <DammitJim> anyone good at gimp or photoshop?
[13:36] <mhall119> I'm alright with gimp
[14:06] <DammitJim> you aer?
[14:06] <DammitJim> are?
[14:06] <DammitJim> cool
[14:06] <DammitJim> I have a simple square that has a black background
[14:07] <DammitJim> and it has a word inside of it that is white
[14:07] <DammitJim> I want to change the color of the word
[14:07] <DammitJim> but since it's all one layer, I can't seem to be able to do it smoothly
[14:07] <DammitJim> what can I do? :)
[14:09] <mhall119> you can use the magic wand to select things of the same color
[14:10] <mhall119> but if the fonts are anti-aliased, you're kind of screwed
[14:22] <DammitJim> mhall119, I'm screwed, then
[14:22] <DammitJim> thanks anyway... at least I don't feel like an idiot anymore... I thought computers could do all these things for me, but I guess they can't ;)
[14:22] <DammitJim> hey mhall119, have you guys done any more camping? I'm considering buying a camper
[14:28] <mhall119> DammitJim: not since the keys, we need to put more money into the camper before we go again
[14:29] <DammitJim> what do you need to do to it?
[14:31] <mhall119> need to buy new tires, get the A/C recharged and possibly fixed, fix a leak in the sink...I think there was more
[14:32] <DammitJim> it sounds like a lot of little things, but easily doable, right? is the summer a bad time for camping?
[14:32] <mhall119> not if you have a good AC
[14:33] <DammitJim> about how much are campsites with hookups?
[14:33] <mhall119> but, with a canvas-sided popup, even a good AC might not keep things cold in the middle of the day
[14:33] <mhall119> depends on the campground
[14:33] <DammitJim> but at night it's not bad, right?
[14:33] <mhall119> can be as low as $15/$20 a night at the cheapest
[14:33] <mhall119> the one we had in the keys, on the beach, was about $90/night
[14:34] <DammitJim> was it nice?
[14:34] <mhall119> some charge per-person over a base number
[14:34] <mhall119> the one in the keys? yeah
[14:34] <DammitJim> was that a per person?
[14:34] <mhall119> some campsites are dives, others are really nice, and the price rarely correlates to the quality
[14:35] <DammitJim> LOL
[14:35] <mhall119> no, it was per-site
[14:35] <DammitJim> were there a lot of mosquitoes?
[14:35] <mhall119> not there, no
[14:36] <DammitJim> really? I don't know why every time I go to the keys, I get eaten by mosquitoes... you went 3 months ago, right?
[14:36] <mhall119> there abouts, yeah
[14:36] <DammitJim> does it take long to set up?
[14:36] <DammitJim> that's the only thing that is making me doubt this popup thing
[14:36] <mhall119> we were right on the beach, so we had a good breeze blowing constantly, I don't think the mosquitoes could fly against it
[14:36] <DammitJim> Lori can only do so much with 5 kids while I set up
[14:36] <mhall119> the popup takes about 10 minutes to setup
[14:37] <DammitJim> noway
[14:37] <DammitJim> don't you have to like stabilize it and stuff?
[14:37] <mhall119> probably less once I get used to it
[14:37] <mhall119> there's stabalizing legs in the 4 corners, but they just swing down, those are easy
[14:37] <mhall119> the biggest thing is cranking it up and pulling the beds out
[14:38] <DammitJim> the cranking mechanism is one of those were you spin like 20 times and the thing goes up 1 inch?
[14:38] <mhall119> yeah
[14:38] <mhall119> there are other kinds, depending on the make and model
[14:39] <mhall119> some use electric motors and hydralics
[14:39] <DammitJim> man, I have to do so much to my van to be able to tow
[14:39] <mhall119> ours is a simple cable and wench
[14:39] <mhall119> luckily our truck was ready for towing, we just had to buy an adapter for the light harness
[14:40] <DammitJim> does it also control the braking system?
[14:48] <danstoner> popup campers have come a long way.
[14:50] <DammitJim> man, they are heavier than 10 years ago, though
[14:50] <DammitJim> danstoner, do you have one?
[14:52] <danstoner> No, my parents did when I was a kid.  That was *not* easy to set up.
[14:52] <danstoner> A few years ago they bought a newer one, it went up lickedy split.
[14:53] <DammitJim> lol
[14:53] <danstoner> with air conditioning and everything.
[14:54] <DammitJim> what does ac prep mean? I'm reading a review on a Jayco 1206
[14:55] <danstoner> Dang that's a big one.
[14:56] <DammitJim> it is?
[14:56] <danstoner> I do not know what "ac prep" means in this context.
[14:56] <DammitJim> I need a camper for 7
[14:57] <danstoner> DammitJim: maybe this?  http://gpsinformation.net/exe/rednec-motor-home.jpg
[14:58] <DammitJim> i love it
[15:05] <danstoner> This sleeps 8:  http://www.pplmotorhomes.com/classc/2005-Jayco-Greyhawk-19543.htm
[15:06] <DammitJim> oh, I'm trying to stick to something you haul :)
[15:07] <danstoner> Sleeps 2 + a series of tents.  The kids will not appreciate camping unless they are forced to sleep in a tent.
[15:08] <mhall119> DammitJim: my popup doesn't have electric breaks
[15:09] <mhall119> there's a piston attached to the tow hitch, when I brake the truck the momentum of the camper pushes against the cylinder, which redirects to the hydralic brakes on the camper
[15:10] <mhall119> I think that's pretty standard for light-weight campers
[15:11] <mhall119> DammitJim: mine is > 10 years old
[15:11] <mhall119> found it on craigslist
[15:31] <DammitJim> whoa
[15:31] <DammitJim> danstoner, I agree, but I have 11 month olds
[15:31] <DammitJim> that time will come ;)