[02:40] itnet7: ping [04:15] mhall119: pong [05:01] anyone good at gimp or photoshop? [13:36] I'm alright with gimp [14:06] you aer? [14:06] are? [14:06] cool [14:06] I have a simple square that has a black background [14:07] and it has a word inside of it that is white [14:07] I want to change the color of the word [14:07] but since it's all one layer, I can't seem to be able to do it smoothly [14:07] what can I do? :) [14:09] you can use the magic wand to select things of the same color [14:10] but if the fonts are anti-aliased, you're kind of screwed [14:22] mhall119, I'm screwed, then [14:22] thanks anyway... at least I don't feel like an idiot anymore... I thought computers could do all these things for me, but I guess they can't ;) [14:22] hey mhall119, have you guys done any more camping? I'm considering buying a camper [14:28] DammitJim: not since the keys, we need to put more money into the camper before we go again [14:29] what do you need to do to it? [14:31] need to buy new tires, get the A/C recharged and possibly fixed, fix a leak in the sink...I think there was more [14:32] it sounds like a lot of little things, but easily doable, right? is the summer a bad time for camping? [14:32] not if you have a good AC [14:33] about how much are campsites with hookups? [14:33] but, with a canvas-sided popup, even a good AC might not keep things cold in the middle of the day [14:33] depends on the campground [14:33] but at night it's not bad, right? [14:33] can be as low as $15/$20 a night at the cheapest [14:33] the one we had in the keys, on the beach, was about $90/night [14:34] was it nice? [14:34] some charge per-person over a base number [14:34] the one in the keys? yeah [14:34] was that a per person? [14:34] some campsites are dives, others are really nice, and the price rarely correlates to the quality [14:35] LOL [14:35] no, it was per-site [14:35] were there a lot of mosquitoes? [14:35] not there, no [14:36] really? I don't know why every time I go to the keys, I get eaten by mosquitoes... you went 3 months ago, right? [14:36] there abouts, yeah [14:36] does it take long to set up? [14:36] that's the only thing that is making me doubt this popup thing [14:36] we were right on the beach, so we had a good breeze blowing constantly, I don't think the mosquitoes could fly against it [14:36] Lori can only do so much with 5 kids while I set up [14:36] the popup takes about 10 minutes to setup [14:37] noway [14:37] don't you have to like stabilize it and stuff? [14:37] probably less once I get used to it [14:37] there's stabalizing legs in the 4 corners, but they just swing down, those are easy [14:37] the biggest thing is cranking it up and pulling the beds out [14:38] the cranking mechanism is one of those were you spin like 20 times and the thing goes up 1 inch? [14:38] yeah [14:38] there are other kinds, depending on the make and model [14:39] some use electric motors and hydralics [14:39] man, I have to do so much to my van to be able to tow [14:39] ours is a simple cable and wench [14:39] luckily our truck was ready for towing, we just had to buy an adapter for the light harness [14:40] does it also control the braking system? [14:48] popup campers have come a long way. [14:50] man, they are heavier than 10 years ago, though [14:50] danstoner, do you have one? [14:52] No, my parents did when I was a kid. That was *not* easy to set up. [14:52] A few years ago they bought a newer one, it went up lickedy split. [14:53] lol [14:53] with air conditioning and everything. [14:54] what does ac prep mean? I'm reading a review on a Jayco 1206 [14:55] Dang that's a big one. [14:56] it is? [14:56] I do not know what "ac prep" means in this context. [14:56] I need a camper for 7 [14:57] DammitJim: maybe this? http://gpsinformation.net/exe/rednec-motor-home.jpg [14:58] i love it [15:05] This sleeps 8: http://www.pplmotorhomes.com/classc/2005-Jayco-Greyhawk-19543.htm [15:06] oh, I'm trying to stick to something you haul :) [15:07] Sleeps 2 + a series of tents. The kids will not appreciate camping unless they are forced to sleep in a tent. [15:08] DammitJim: my popup doesn't have electric breaks [15:09] there's a piston attached to the tow hitch, when I brake the truck the momentum of the camper pushes against the cylinder, which redirects to the hydralic brakes on the camper [15:10] I think that's pretty standard for light-weight campers [15:11] DammitJim: mine is > 10 years old [15:11] found it on craigslist [15:31] whoa [15:31] danstoner, I agree, but I have 11 month olds [15:31] that time will come ;)