[00:00] <red__> lol u what escott lol what swat?
[00:00] <red__> ok what do I need to install on mac?
[00:00] <escott> red__, its a gui for samba configuration. i don't know much about it, but it is suggesting in !samba
[00:01] <qin> red__: sudo apt-get install nast && sudo nast -i eth0 -m (-i wlan0 for wifi, this list machines on lan)
[00:01] <iLuvGirlz> i need help
[00:01] <th0r> red__: swat makes configuring samba a lot easier. For a new user I would suggest it
[00:01] <Logan_> !ask | iLuvGirlz
[00:02] <iLuvGirlz> alright the problem is that when I play any video the video would appear right over my internet broswer or any other window
[00:02] <mabes> where would I find upstart's logs?  Trying to create a new service and it doesn't start with "start new-service"
[00:02] <iLuvGirlz> its really annoying
[00:02] <MC8> Howdy, which is the simplest terminal text editor to use?
[00:02] <qin> MC8: nano
[00:03] <MSHughes> Nano
[00:03] <earthmeLon> What's the line that I can add to my .ssh/config file to prevent Public Key Authentication for a specific host?
[00:03] <MC8> ah, thanks. I should have remembered that
[00:04] <iLuvGirlz> does anyone know how to fix my video problem? the video(s) i play no matter which video program it would cover up my other app(s) and windows, like when I right click the video to open the menu options it is blocked by the video(its right underneath the video)
[00:05] <red__> qin i done that what u said
[00:05] <grekkos> does anyone know how I can allow a specific port on my ubuntu server? Would it be AppArmor that is blocking it? It's a non-sytem port (port > 1024)
[00:05] <grekkos> or a range of ports
[00:06] <MSHughes> iptables?
[00:06] <red__> time for a coffee
[00:06] <red__> shalom
[00:06] <escott> grekkos, do you have ufw enabled
[00:06] <grekkos> escott: how can I check?
[00:06] <hexacode> hey you guys...what exactly is this operator called  ">>"  . this is the cntext which i use it. echo "hello world" >> helloworld.txt
[00:06] <edbian> hexacode: append
[00:06] <grekkos> MSHughes: actually I'm not sure it's a default Ubuntu Server install I just set up
[00:06] <hexacode> thanks
[00:06] <earthmeLon> Whenever I connect to a new host, My computer attempts to use every public key that I have.  Is there a way to prevent this and only use public keys that I specify with a host in my .ssh/config file?
[00:06] <escott> grekkos, sudo iptables --list
[00:06] <grekkos> MSHughes: does iptables come with ubuntu by default?
[00:07] <iLuvGirlz> no one can help me?
[00:07] <[THC]AcidRain> not sure what its called. but it is append
[00:07] <MSHughes> grekkos, I believe so
[00:07] <[THC]AcidRain> grekkos
[00:07] <hexacode> edbian is that a bash operator?
[00:07] <edbian> hexacode: It's bash yes.
[00:07] <edbian> hexacode: Do you know what it does?
[00:07] <grekkos> escott: it says policy ACCEPT straight down the line
[00:08] <hexacode> yes...i just want to look up how it does it...does bash call an sbin program and pass the righthand side as an argument to the sbin utility?
[00:08] <iLuvGirlz> guys when I put any program over the video the video would still appear on top of it, its annoying, how do you stop it?
[00:08] <grekkos> escott: that should mean it should be accepting everything no? I can't even telnet on that port from within the network using the local ip
[00:08] <iLuvGirlz> the video would appear over every single program, menu etc
[00:08] <escott> iLuvGirlz, sounds like a problem with xv extension. what video card do you have?
[00:09] <hexacode> edbian does bash call an external program in sbin when u use the append operator? im not exacly sure how it works, but would like to know
[00:09] <edbian> hexacode: Well sbin programs are just programs that require root to run.  It probably has some things in bash that do file operations, those make system calls that do reads and write, those make drivers calls that spin the disk and stuff.
[00:09] <iLuvGirlz> ati 4250 mobility
[00:09] <hexacode> ah ok edbian, thanks
[00:10] <grekkos> escott: is it possible that apparmor is blocking something?
[00:10] <simpleblue> Simpy!! :D
[00:10] <iLuvGirlz> I also been installing some xv extensions maybe that is the problem?
[00:10] <simpleblue> Simpy!! :D
[00:10] <simpleblue> Simpy!! :D
[00:10] <FloodBot1> simpleblue: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:10] <edbian> hexacode: What is the bigger picture here?
[00:10] <hexacode> edbian  this is actually what im trying to do, but it wont work...someone told me to use the tee utility to do this     {  sudo echo "r3d2 \n root" >> /etc/cron.allow
[00:10] <escott> grekkos, i thought apparmor was more concerned with file paths, but yes i suppose it is possible
[00:10] <hexacode> oopd edbian ....take out the {
[00:10] <grekkos> escott: is it just read/write permission? I don't know if that could affect opening ports or anything like that for communication
[00:11] <RealKillaz> there is something NOTgood happening.... after an upgrade of the 10.04 LTS server I start getting a kernel panic..
[00:11] <grekkos> oh i think I may see the issue
[00:12] <grekkos> How can I check for communication of a specific port number without using telnet?
[00:12] <RealKillaz> Rioght now I'm reinstalling the system to pinpoint the problem... but how come a 10.04 LTS can give kernel panic can not mount fs after an update/upgrade?!
[00:12] <escott> iLuvGirlz, mplayer will allow you to specifically select the output format with the -vo option (mplayer -vo help) see if you can confirm it is xv
[00:12] <edbian> hexacode: The reason it doesn't work is because sudo applies to echo but it does not apply to >>
[00:12] <Jeruvy> grekkos: netcat or nc.
[00:13] <edbian> hexacode: I recommend: sudo nano /etc/cron.allow   and just type that stuff at the end
[00:13] <hexacode> edbian, whats the quivalent tee command that im trying to get at?
[00:13] <edbian> hexacode: I'm trying to look it up right now
[00:13] <hexacode> thanks
[00:13] <iLuvGirlz> i will try but i dont have mplayer it happens with any video player
[00:13] <grekkos> Jeruvy: thanks I'll take a look at it
[00:14] <escott> hexacode, echo | sudo tee filename
[00:14] <edbian> hexacode: echo 'whatever' | sudo tee /path/to/file
[00:14] <edbian> darnit!
[00:14]  * edbian is frustrated
[00:14] <edbian> hexacode: echo 'whatever' | sudo tee -a /path/to/file
[00:15] <edbian> hexacode: use -a to append instead of overwriting the entire file
[00:15] <simpleblue> sim
[00:16] <grekkos> Jeruvy: do you have an example on how to listen with nc? I'm trying nc -l -p 27015 and it's showing me usage i'm not sure what i'm missing
[00:17] <Jeruvy> grekkos: Thats not uncommon.  What are you trying to accomplish?
[00:17] <grekkos> Jeruvy: I want to check to make sure a firewall isn't blocking incoming traffic to my ubuntu machine on port 27015
[00:18] <qin> grekkos: Is it on lan?
[00:18] <Jeruvy> grekkos:  so you're checking externally?
[00:18] <grekkos> Jeruvy: qin I am checking it internally right now to see if it's a software firewall
[00:19] <grekkos> (or trying to)
[00:19] <hexacode> hey edbian i got dc'ed
[00:19] <hexacode> i dont know if you responded
[00:19] <edbian> hexacode: dc'ed?
[00:19] <shanebnetapp> use nmap
[00:19] <shanebnetapp> to check for open ports
[00:19] <hexacode> disconnected from irc
[00:20] <qin> grekkos: 2200 4567 open
[00:20] <Jeruvy> grekkos: so you have the right idea, remove the '-l'
[00:20] <edbian> hexacode: echo 'something' | sudo tee -a /path/to/file
[00:21] <grekkos> Jeruvy: does the same thing
[00:21] <qin> grekkos: is not nmap better?
[00:21] <grekkos> Jeruvy: do I have to listen on the host machine or I can just probe it like that from the other?
[00:21] <hexacode> edbian thanks
[00:21] <grekkos> qin: I don't know I haven't tried it yet, I've never actually used nmap except for a handful of occasions
[00:21] <edbian> hexacode: sure
[00:21] <Jeruvy> grekkos: nc works both ways.
[00:21] <edbian> grekkos: nmap can probe machines remotely (unless they're behind NAT or firewall)
[00:21] <howoriginalAU> Hi everyone :)
[00:22] <grekkos> qin: I also don't seem to have nmap on this machine right now
[00:22] <shanebnetapp> you can also nmap 127.0.0.1
[00:22] <escott> grekkos, you can probe from the other computer, and can connect any firewalls that actively drop connections
[00:22] <edbian> grekkos: sudo apt-get install nmap
[00:22] <grekkos> edbian: this machine is mac os x but I can try macports, hold on
[00:22] <qin> grekkos: Start service, and scan server, also add ssh sever so if you get 22 open and other closed you know where is problem
[00:22] <escott> grekkos, rather nmap can detect firewalls that actively drop
[00:23] <grekkos> I really appreciate everyone's help, by the way
[00:23] <excognac> hi Getting very tired of reinstalling natty on  a laptop... Is there any way to sort out MISALIGNED partition without reinstalling?
[00:23] <tactical2> hi.  do you think ubuntu is realy for someone's grandparents
[00:23] <grekkos> qin: well actually I can connect on port 22, I'm sshed in right now
[00:23] <edbian> yes it really is
[00:23] <escott> excognac, gparted on the livecd can move the partitions
[00:24] <grekkos> lucky me, nmap doesn't have many dependencies
[00:24] <qin> grekkos: So, iptables -L and have a look what is there.
[00:24] <grekkos> qin: pretty much nothing, everything says ACCEPT
[00:24] <grekkos> qin: does that mean this is not a software firewall issue?
[00:24] <howoriginalAU> I've just installed Ubuntu for the first time (11.04) coming from Windows......and I just thought I'd ask - does it take long to get used to the interface?
[00:24] <qin> grekkos: Also, netstat -tulp on server to see if service is listening
[00:25] <iceroot> howoriginalAU: as long as in windows
[00:25] <grekkos> qin: well the broader scope of this issue is that I'm trying to run hlds (half life dedicated server) and HLDS is saying it cannot open the socket
[00:25] <edbian> howoriginalAU: The new interface is very new for everybody.  I don't think it takes long to get used to.  The CLI takes long to get used to.
[00:25] <howoriginalAU> edbian: oh I see. CLI is command line is it?
[00:25] <iLuvGirlz> how do you check if it is xv in mplayer?
[00:25] <edbian> howoriginalAU: yep
[00:25] <tactical2> does ubuntu work out-of-the-box with any modem?  e.g. a mobile-broadband modem
[00:25] <escott> grekkos, are you behind a nat
[00:25] <iLuvGirlz> i tried doing the help command but it\s not working
[00:26] <iceroot> tactical2: depending on the modem
[00:26] <grekkos> escott: I am behind a router which I've already configured to allow the ports
[00:26] <qin> grekkos: What sound like lack of permissions
[00:27] <grekkos> qin: permissions on the server to create a socket connection?
[00:27] <hexacode> hey you guys, im testing if i can write to a file from terminal, and i can; however, when i try to write a newline into a file, it doesnt work, its writes everything one one line ...whats up with this?  echo "line1 \n line2" >> testlines.txt
[00:27] <grekkos> qin: right now I created a new user to run the server but I haven't changed its permissions at all
[00:27] <Jaded> Hi.
[00:27] <escott> hexacode, echo -e
[00:28] <grekkos> hexacode: or add another blank echo >> file
[00:28] <iLuvGirlz> guys I have a current video problem where my videos no matter which ones I played would always appear over my windows or other app(s) and menus
[00:28] <hexacode> oh wow lol
[00:28] <Jaded> I'm trying to get flash to play @ 360p with no video lag, is this possible with 1ghz Duron and 768MB ram.
[00:28] <grekkos> hexacode: echo -e will evaluate any escape sequences like \t and \n
[00:28] <iceroot> Jaded: yes
[00:28] <hexacode> escott didnt think i had to supply an argument for that lol, oh well, kind of a wierd implementation
[00:28] <Jaded> ok
[00:28] <iceroot> Jaded: i am using it on a celeron 900 with 512mb ram
[00:28] <iLuvGirlz> does anyone know whats wrong?
[00:28] <grekkos> qin: nmap doesn't seem to be having much luck either (internally)
[00:29] <Jaded> I installed Xubuntu, setup the nvidia drivers and it still lags during video playback in both firefox and chromium
[00:29] <hexacode> Jaded
[00:29] <hexacode> flash player?
[00:29] <Jaded> um, adobe flash player
[00:29] <iLuvGirlz> would sending a screen shot help you guys solve my problem?
[00:30] <escott> iLuvGirlz, were you able to confirm if it was xv?
[00:30] <iLuvGirlz> i coulnt
[00:30] <hexacode> Jaded, i sometimes get crashes, you think its a bug?
[00:30] <iLuvGirlz> i have mplayer here
[00:30] <iLuvGirlz> just when I type the command nothing happens
[00:30] <escott> iLuvGirlz, try mplayer -vo x11 somefile.mov
[00:30] <edbian> flash player sucks on linux
[00:30] <grekkos> mhmm
[00:30] <tactical2> how old are the girls you love?
[00:31] <Jaded> I'm dual booting with XP
[00:31] <earthmeLon> I can SSH into my server just fine.  SSHFS is giving "Connection Reset by Peer" error.  Not sure whats up
[00:31] <grekkos> qin: escott the message I get from HLDS looks osmething like this, while not a standard OS message maybe you guys can make sense of the verbage: FATAL ERROR (shutting down): Couldn't allocate dedicated server IP port 27015.
[00:32] <iLuvGirlz> alright i got this MPlayer 1.0rc4-4.5.2 (C) 2000-2010 MPlayer Team
[00:32] <iLuvGirlz> mplayer: could not connect to socket
[00:32] <iLuvGirlz> mplayer: No such file or directory
[00:32] <iLuvGirlz> Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote control.
[00:32] <iLuvGirlz> Playing The.Real.Hustle.S01E07.avi.
[00:32] <iLuvGirlz> File not found: 'The.Real.Hustle.S01E07.avi'
[00:32] <iLuvGirlz> Failed to open The.Real.Hustle.S01E07.avi.
[00:32] <FloodBot1> iLuvGirlz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:32] <jrib> iLuvGirlz: the file doesn't exist
[00:32] <escott> iLuvGirlz, you have to cd into the folder with the video
[00:33] <hexacode> lol i know someone who got his forum hacked by someone who told him it would be nice to have a page that teaches people how to echo their user agent with php. he did, and then the hacker changed his user agent header to a file upload onto the server lol
[00:33] <Jaded> what crashes are you getting hexacode?
[00:33] <hexacode> Jaded chromium browser mainly, shockwave player crash, and sometimes it just stays blacked out
[00:34] <hexacode> Jaded, i have better luck with firefox and flash player than i do with chromium
[00:34] <escott> grekkos, thats not terribly helpful. you might try and see if you can get telnetd to bind on that port
[00:34] <iLuvGirlz> how would I do that lol? i am new to this
[00:34] <tactical2> iLuvGirlz, what kind of girls do you love
[00:34] <hexacode> chromiums implementation of flash is defninitely buggy, im not sure about firefox...actually, i remember an older version of firefox crashing
[00:35] <iLuvGirlz> the ones with pretty eyes
[00:35] <iLuvGirlz> and a good mind
[00:35] <hexacode> Jaded, what version of firefox are you using
[00:35] <tactical2> iLuvGirlz, your name sounds criminal
[00:35] <iLuvGirlz> it is
[00:35] <iLuvGirlz> well it was until now
[00:35] <tactical2> how old are you?
[00:35] <iLuvGirlz> underaged
[00:36] <iceroot> iLuvGirlz: what about vlc instead of mplayer?
[00:36] <iLuvGirlz> yes i have vlc
[00:37] <iLuvGirlz> same thing happens the video appears blocking my chat with you guys right now
[00:37] <grekkos> escott: here's a little bit better message maybe, which says essentially the same (again from HLDS) WARNING: UDP_OpenSocket: port: 27015  bind: Cannot assign requested address
[00:37] <escott> iceroot, the point of mplayer was to control the output format to x11 and not xv to identify a possible xv problem
[00:37] <grekkos> escott: i'm taking a look at telnetd now
[00:37] <iceroot> escott: ok
[00:37] <hexacode> hey you guys, what books should i read in order to better understand the unix operating system and how it manages resources and manages devices and their input and output? i want to be able to program and use the hardware, but i lack in the necessary programming skills, i can do much with software, but im not sure how to program with my hardware
[00:37] <iLuvGirlz> would a screenshot help?
[00:38] <tactical2> hexacode, why not just use windows
[00:38] <tactical2> you
[00:38] <bng> hi all, anyone here has experience with virtualization? Is Intel's VT-d dependent upon motherboard support?
[00:38] <iceroot> hexacode: http://lwn.net/Kernel/LDD3/
[00:38] <bjorn_248> hey can anyone give me a good curlpaste alternative for ubuntu? something in apt would be convenient
[00:38] <hexacode> tactical2 i want to program better...ive been wanting to do soe programming with images and sound formats, but i have no idea how to take microphone input and output raw sound to a speaker
[00:38] <hexacode> thanks iceroot, im goiing to bookmark that
[00:39] <iceroot> hexacode: with that book you lean a lot about the kernel and other hardcore stuff
[00:39] <escott> iLuvGirlz, when you open a terminal it puts you in /home/username. you need to cd /path/to/your/video/file then mplayer -vo x11 yourfilename.avi
[00:39] <qin> grekkos: You there
[00:39] <qin> ?
[00:40] <Starminn> Audacity doesn't pick any mic input up. The sound goes straight through to my system's speakers, but Audacity is missing it somehow.
[00:40] <iLuvGirlz> alright
[00:40] <grekkos> qin: yes
[00:42] <qin> grekkos: ok, sudo nc -l 27015 (so this we noe know), but since that is hl problem, need a bit more time.
[00:43] <Jaded> my firefox is 3.6.17
[00:43] <grekkos> qin: ah, that worked now
[00:43] <grekkos> qin: I listened with nc and probed it with nmap
[00:43] <TheLifelessOne> Is there any way to install GNOME without all the unneeded crap?
[00:43] <grekkos> qin: internally it shows as open, I'm going to do one external to just to check
[00:43] <TheLifelessOne> (like the games, the media players, all of that)
[00:44] <grekkos> qin: okay so it is having issues connecting from the outside
[00:44] <Starminn> TheLifelessOne: GNOME comes with software, just like KDE. The "GNOME desktop" package comes with that default software. No way to get around it IIRC. Same with KDE. It comes with crap.
[00:44] <grekkos> qin: it's possible HL is giving an error because the serverlist servers can't connect to me, let me see if I can get nmap to connect with the outside ip
[00:45] <TheLifelessOne> Starminn, seriously? I just want GNOME. :(
[00:45] <TheLifelessOne> Oh well. Thanks anyways. :/
[00:45] <hexacode> thanks so much iceroot....i actually downloaded this book before u showed me that http://www.amazon.com/Modern-Operating-Systems-Andrew-Tanenbaum/dp/0136006639/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1308267943&sr=8-1
[00:46] <hexacode> i dont thin its what i wanted lol
[00:46] <grekkos> qin: hmm, the ports are open on the router but it still won't go through...
[00:47] <iLuvGirlz> i have gotten no luck
[00:47] <iLuvGirlz> it keeps saying it does not exsist
[00:48] <iceroot> hexacode: andrew-tanenbaum is imo the guru for things like that
[00:48] <iLuvGirlz> /home/ray/Videos/Season_1/-vo x11 TRHS01E01.avibash: /home/ray/Videos/Season_1/-vo: No such file or directory
[00:48] <improveupon> anyone use mldonkey ?
[00:48] <grekkos> qin: I need to take a short break, if you come up with any ideas please send me a pm
[00:48] <iceroot> hexacode: you dont do anything wrong to read his books
[00:48] <qin> grekkos: Did you assigned it to right machine? http://www.justlinux.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-49529.html
[00:48] <hexacode> iceroot thanks
[00:49] <Jaded> I
[00:49] <Jaded> I'm  giving LXDE a go, if not, I'm downgrading to OpenBox or FlushBox
[00:49] <Jaded> :(
[00:50] <iceroot> hexacode: but i think "my" book is easier to understand, i only know the german version and it is great. and its for linux 2.6.x
[00:50] <hexacode> thanks iceroot im looking at the book right now
[00:50] <iLuvGirlz> alright postting a screen shot hope that will help you guys solve my problem
[00:50] <hexacode> im liking the table of contents
[00:51] <iLuvGirlz> http://img854.imageshack.us/i/videoproblem1.png/
[00:51] <iLuvGirlz> this is the problem
[00:52] <tactical2> iLuvGirlz, i konw what the problem is
[00:52] <tactical2> you should have zigged when you zagged
[00:52] <iLuvGirlz> ??
[00:52] <iLuvGirlz> so any soultions?
[00:52] <iLuvGirlz> solutions anyone?
[00:53] <caseys> i need some help editing a script
[00:53] <iLuvGirlz> the video appears right on top of everything as u can see
[00:53] <iceroot> caseys: maybe #bash  if it is a bash-script
[00:53] <iceroot> caseys: or is it an editor-problem?
[00:54] <caseys> its a shell script
[00:54] <iLuvGirlz> http://img854.imageshack.us/i/videoproblem1.png/ anyone know how to fix this?
[00:54] <qin> caseys: paste
[00:54] <caseys> its a simple problem
[00:54] <Starminn> In Ubuntu 10.10, Audacity is not picking up any external sound inout. Whatever I play is just relayed over my system speakers -- Audacity doesn't even know it's there.
[00:54] <caseys> if [ $REMAINING_RUNTIME != none ]; then
[00:54] <caseys>         RUNTIME="Remaining Runtime: $REMAINING_RUNTIME Seconds"
[00:54] <caseys> fi
[00:55] <caseys> i need to change it from secs to mins
[00:55] <qin> caseys: man bc
[00:55] <jimmie> Im not sure if anyone else uses Deluge, but does it always have to re-check files after a reboot, or is there a way to turn that off?
[00:55] <caseys> qin: whats that
[00:56] <iLuvGirlz> http://img854.imageshack.us/i/videoproblem1.png/ anyone solutions to fix my video problem?
[00:57] <earthmeLon> My mysql my.conf file has a bind address of localhost.  Does this prevent remote logins?
[00:57] <iLuvGirlz> the video keeps always stays on top of the windows
[00:57] <Jaded> can anyone help me troubleshoot why my cpu is on 99% when I'm playing flash videos on youtube?
[00:57] <iLuvGirlz> i dont know how to fix it
[00:57] <iLuvGirlz> Jaded do you have your video driver?
[00:58] <Jaded> using ubuntu with LXDE window manager and nvidia drivers
[00:58] <qin> caseys: easiest way to calculate in bash - bc
[00:58] <iLuvGirlz> is the nivdia drivers open or closed?
[00:58] <lostern> How do I edit passwd and group with a text editor? They seem to be protected somehow
[00:58] <iLuvGirlz> poor video drivers forces most of the work on the cpu
[00:58] <iLuvGirlz> or 3d accel is not enabled
[00:58] <Jaded> how do I list what IRQ's are being used by my PCI devices?
[00:58] <caseys> qin: so then what does the script need to be
[00:59] <caseys> jaded: what cpu is it?
[00:59] <iLuvGirlz> http://img854.imageshack.us/i/videoproblem1.png/ video stuck on top of windows how do you fix this???
[00:59] <israel> lostern: if u edit that youll have many problems
[00:59] <iLuvGirlz> the video will always stay on top unless I minizize it
[01:00] <iLuvGirlz> it appears over all apps etc
[01:00] <qin> caseys: or: http://pastebin.com/jxbCmaJU
[01:00] <lostern> israel: Thanks. How do I do it?
[01:00] <iLuvGirlz> even the menu would be covered
[01:00] <lostern> israel: I need to restore users/groups from another config
[01:01] <iLuvGirlz> no one can help me =(
[01:01] <rypervenche> iLuvGirlz: THat is a problem with flash. I have it too. I have never found a solution for it.
[01:01] <iLuvGirlz> its not a flash problem its a video I have on the hard drive
[01:02] <iLuvGirlz> this did not happen until i startyed installign video codecs
[01:02] <iLuvGirlz> so I dont what to do now
[01:02] <jasl> I'm generating a grid and want to add data to the cell that a mouse over and a single click could use to display details of the item referenced by the grid.  I have a formatter function but I'm not sure how to format the data and then where to find it in onCellMouseOver and onClick call
[01:02] <iLuvGirlz> how to to remove 3rd party video codecs?
[01:02] <jasl> I tried to add an object but it looks like the grid only accepts strings.
[01:02] <iLuvGirlz> maybe its conflicting with the orginal ones
[01:02] <rypervenche> iLuvGirlz: How did you install them?
[01:03] <iLuvGirlz> remove them
[01:03] <iLuvGirlz> i believe i installed more video codecs which are conflicting with each other
[01:03] <rypervenche> iLuvGirlz: but how did you install them?
[01:03] <iLuvGirlz> thats why the video is appearing over/ on top of my apps
[01:03] <iLuvGirlz> through the termial using commands i got on a website
[01:03] <iLuvGirlz> the sudo etc u know
[01:04] <rypervenche> iLuvGirlz: Well I can only help you if you find the site.
[01:04] <iLuvGirlz> oh this one
[01:04] <rypervenche> iLuvGirlz: And it shouldn't be a codec conflict.
[01:04] <grekkos> qin: yeah I already tried the debug flag, nothing shows up
[01:04] <iLuvGirlz> http://haflpastgeek.com/9-essential-things-you-should-do-after-installing-ubuntu-11-04-%E2%80%9Cnatty-narwhal%E2%80%9D.html
[01:04] <escott> iLuvGirlz, if your nickname were less offensive and you bothered to respond to people by name you might get more help
[01:04] <iLuvGirlz> go all the way down to VLC codec
[01:04] <Jaded> caseys: it's a duron 1ghz
[01:05] <jgpzen> Him being heterosexual is offensive?
[01:05] <caseys> qin: is this right RUNTIME="Remaining Runtime: $(($REMAINING_RUNTIME / 60)) Minutes"
[01:05] <shanebnetapp> what's offensive about liking girls?
[01:05] <iLuvGirlz> but i am a stranger in this land and i am afraid that you guys dont like me
[01:05] <Jaded> how do I test that the video drivers are poor?
[01:05] <iLuvGirlz> the stress test
[01:05] <iLuvGirlz> hmm
[01:05] <jgpzen> Stop loving girls.
[01:05] <iLuvGirlz> there are programs trhat test GPU/CPU
[01:05] <qin> caseys: Do not look nice, not sure.
[01:05] <Jaded> I'm going to crank open the bios and have a look
[01:06] <rypervenche> iLuvGirlz: Did you install that PPA?
[01:06] <iLuvGirlz> jqpzen that is hard :P
[01:06] <iLuvGirlz> all three of them
[01:06] <iLuvGirlz> i installed all three of those VLC codecs
[01:06] <iLuvGirlz> if i remove those it would fix my problem
[01:06] <iLuvGirlz> i believe
[01:06] <caseys> jaded: have you tried installing the lasest driver
[01:06] <rypervenche> iLuvGirlz: The codecs are fine. PPAs aren't supported here. The PPA could be the problem.
[01:06] <qin> caseys: You just add function, so you will get minutes and soconds.
[01:06] <jgpzen> That's what she said,
[01:07] <iLuvGirlz> how do i remove the PPA?
[01:07] <shanebnetapp> you can remove those the same way you installed them if you got them from the repos with apt-get
[01:07] <iLuvGirlz> but girls dont get hard!
[01:07] <shanebnetapp> sudo apt-get remove <package>
[01:07] <iLuvGirlz> wait...\
[01:07] <rypervenche> And with that comment, so ends my help to you.
[01:07] <iLuvGirlz> noooo!
[01:08] <iLuvGirlz> how do you remove PPA?
[01:08]  * jgpzen pinches rypervenche on the but 
[01:08] <iLuvGirlz> and thank you shane
[01:08] <maco> iLuvGirlz: if you can't keep it kid-friendly, you can't play here
[01:08]  * rypervenche winks at jgpzen.
[01:08] <iLuvGirlz> alrighty i will now
[01:08] <grekkos> qin: I may have figured out why just now :)
[01:08] <iLuvGirlz> how do you remove PPA?
[01:09] <diytto> dpkg -r package.id.here
[01:09] <escott> iLuvGirlz, please "/nick a_more_appropriate_name" and please respond to people by name
[01:09] <qin> hm, how can I ignore lines to iLuvGirlz too? I know! trigger!
[01:09] <qin> grekkos: Tell me?
[01:09] <Jaded> Just set my bios to optimized defaults, and made a few changes too :)
[01:10] <Appropriate> woot
[01:10] <Appropriate> there
[01:10] <Appropriate> how do you remove that PPA?
[01:10] <diytto> :/
[01:10] <qin> !enter | Appropriate
[01:10] <grekkos> qin: The rule was set to allow UDP only on those ports
[01:11] <grekkos> qin: (in my router)
[01:11] <escott> !info ppa-purge | Appropriate
[01:11] <jgpzen> haha
[01:11] <jgpzen> Technically he's abiding now
[01:11] <excognac> Would cause any problem if I have a misaligned partition which does not exist just as the container for the actual ext4 root and swap?
[01:11] <qin> grekkos: Nice.
[01:11] <grekkos> qin: well actually I take that back, that alloed nmap to connect to nc but now the server itself still does not work
[01:12] <nit-wit> excognac, can you say that more clearly a non existing partition?
[01:12] <qin> grekkos: You need to make sure that all hl threads are down.
[01:12] <grekkos> qin: when i do ps aux|grep hld nothing comes up
[01:12] <grekkos> qin: except for grep...
[01:12] <Appropriate> ubottu: would you know how to fix this problem? http://img854.imageshack.us/content_round.php?page=done&l=img854/4170/videoproblem1.png
[01:13] <Appropriate> =(
[01:13] <cdavis_> How do you adjust the special effects of the desktop in natty?
[01:14] <escott> !ccsm | cdavis_
[01:14] <qin> grekkos: What is err now?
[01:15] <grekkos> qin: same error from HLDS, only now I can connect nmap to nc if I listen
[01:15] <escott> Appropriate, save a video file to your home folder. open a terminal and type: "mplayer -vo x11 the_video_file_name.avi" then try "mplayer -vo xv the_video_file_name.avi" I suspect the first will work the second will be broken
[01:15] <grekkos> qin: using the outside ip
[01:15] <lostern> Is there a way to get aptitude to ignore non-existant packages when trying to install multiple packages from the command line?
[01:15] <escott> cdavis_, be careful with the settings its possible to break unity
[01:15] <jimmie> Im not sure if anyone else uses Deluge, but does it always have to re-check files after a reboot, or is there a way to turn that off?
[01:15] <Appropriate> alright
[01:16] <cdavis_> escott: I want to reduce the eye candy because I cannto fgure out why playing a video in vlc is choppy
[01:16] <grekkos> qin: I think I will take a break from it for now and try again tomorrow
[01:17] <escott> cdavis_, well reducing the eyecandy shouldn't matter. its possible that removing the eye candy entirely and dropping back to !classic or !unity-2d would be better
[01:17] <grekkos> qin: I know for sure I've set this up successfully before but on an ubuntu 32 bit server, this time it's x64 i wonder if that's affecting it... I think it's still 32bit though
[01:17] <escott> cdavis_, but as long as the compositer is running your video is being redirected which might be the source of the choppiness
[01:17] <qin> grekkos: Try to have own server by then ;)
[01:18] <grekkos> qin: well this is my server ;p
[01:18] <LinuxPythonPeter> hi
[01:18] <LinuxPythonPeter> lol
[01:18] <grekkos> qin: I might just try installing a 32bit vm if I can't get it working
[01:18] <qin> grekkos: Can you paste err once more
[01:18] <Jaded> I seem to be hitting a wall here.
[01:18] <grekkos> WARNING: UDP_OpenSocket: port: 27015  bind: Cannot assign requested address
[01:18] <grekkos> FATAL ERROR (shutting down): Couldn't allocate dedicated server IP port 27015.
[01:19] <Jaded> I've created an xorg.conf file using nvidia X server
[01:19] <Jaded> do I need to add a line to enable acceleration ?
[01:19] <Starminn> In Ubuntu 10.10, Audacity is not picking up any external sound inout. Whatever I play is just relayed over my system speakers -- Audacity doesn't even know it's there.
[01:19] <grekkos> Jaded: XOrg was designed with many walls to run into
[01:19] <qin> grekkos: Ok, have a time to play a bit with this now ;) (Before going to play)
[01:20] <Jaded> lol
[01:20] <grekkos> Jaded: does it have a line something like Set Options Composite
[01:20] <grekkos> Jaded: (i forget the exact key)
[01:20] <grekkos> Jaded: I'm assuming if it's not there you'd have to add it, even if you generated it using the NVidia tool
[01:21] <LinuxPythonPeter> hi
[01:21] <LinuxPythonPeter> are any gud fps for teh linuxexs?
[01:21] <Jaded> but that's the thing, I don't know what line to add.
[01:21] <grekkos> LinuxPythonPeter: Quake3
[01:21] <Jaded> I'm trying to get smooth flash playback
[01:21] <grekkos> LinuxPythonPeter: for a recent version check ioquake3.org
[01:21] <qin> away
[01:21] <LinuxPythonPeter> What about that software center or whatever?
[01:22] <grekkos> LinuxPythonPeter: alternatively OpenArena (the same game but with free assets)
[01:22] <grekkos> LinuxPythonPeter: software center probably has OA
[01:22] <qin> LinuxPythonPeter: Urban Terror
[01:22] <LinuxPythonPeter> ok
[01:23] <LinuxPythonPeter> Just a question, but how do i get back to the #ubuntu tab after switching to firefox/chrome
[01:23] <grekkos> Jaded: well the composite extension is required for compiz, if you have that running it's loaded (or any other type of desktop compositing)
[01:23] <grekkos> LinuxPythonPeter: what IRC client are you using?
[01:23] <LinuxPythonPeter> empathy
[01:24] <LinuxPythonPeter> if i press on the #ubuntu under rooms it doesnt switch
[01:24] <grekkos> I've never used it before
[01:25] <oneliner> from unity how do find directions such as System>administration>Software Sources > Other Software ?
[01:26] <nit-wit> oneliner, synaptic
[01:29] <Rollin> good day all
[01:31] <trakinas> Rollin: night.
[01:31] <LinuxPythonPeter> hi lol
[01:31] <LinuxPythonPeter> Im back
[01:31] <LinuxPythonPeter> With a different client :P
[01:32] <Atomix26> hello?
[01:32]  * LinuxPythonPeter lol
[01:32] <Atomix26> I need help with wubi
[01:32] <LinuxPythonPeter> wubi?
[01:33] <LinuxPythonPeter> I dont reccomend using wubi, its broken imo.
[01:33] <Atomix26> yeah. I dont need you to tell me that
[01:33] <Cuchulainn> hi all...have something a little weird...my keyboard at logon is has a different time to register than once i'm logged in..
[01:33] <LinuxPythonPeter> just restart and press f1 and load it from bios or whatever
[01:33] <Atomix26> no
[01:33] <Cuchulainn> that is to say that i have to press and hold until it registers, but once logged in is fine..
[01:33] <LinuxPythonPeter> why not? thats what you have to do anyway
[01:33] <Atomix26> it says that wubildr.mbr is corrupted
[01:34] <LinuxPythonPeter> try redownloading and then reburning
[01:34] <Cuchulainn> happened once before with natty beta, but when i reinstalled the official release it was fine..up until a couple of updates ago..
[01:34] <Cuchulainn> any ideas?
[01:34] <LinuxPythonPeter> I had to download 3 times b it worked
[01:34] <Atomix26> im not burning. I installed wubi to a USB removable hard drive
[01:34] <LinuxPythonPeter> whats ur problem Cuch?
[01:34] <LinuxPythonPeter> ahh, ok.
[01:34] <LinuxPythonPeter> Well try again anyway
[01:34] <LinuxPythonPeter> redownload and retry
[01:35] <LinuxPythonPeter> if that doesnt work try burning
[01:35] <Atomix26> redownload ubuntu, or wubi?
[01:35] <LinuxPythonPeter> Try wubi, and then Ubuntu if that doesnt work
[01:35] <Atomix26> ok
[01:35] <LinuxPythonPeter> Wait, no dont redownload ubuntu yet
[01:35] <LinuxPythonPeter> just wubi
[01:36] <Cuchulainn> LinuxPythonPeter, the keyboard isn't as responsive at the logon screen...takes about a 1/2 sec press to get the key to register, but once logged in is fine..
[01:36] <nit-wit> Atomix26, the regular download has a wubi installer in it. Putting it on a external is a bad idea though.
[01:36] <Cuchulainn> LinuxPythonPeter, was working fine, then a couple of updates ago..
[01:36] <Atomix26> why?
[01:37] <nit-wit> Atomix26, wubi is a file in windows that is where it should be if you want ease of use.
[01:37] <Atomix26> so install to the C: drive instead?
[01:37] <nit-wit> Atomix26, yes
[01:37] <Atomix26> ok.
[01:38] <LinuxPythonPeter> u there CUCH?
[01:39] <vandemar> is there a way to go about starting vino-server for another user's x session?  sadly although remote desktop is enabled in system->preferences->remotedesktop, vino-server is not running for some reason
[01:39] <vandemar> I am not quite familiar with X auth juju
[01:40] <rileyp>  how can I do this :use a Dynamic DNS record that resolves to my WAN IP, but have the DNS resolve to the internal MythPodcaster host IP from inside the network
[01:41] <th0r> rileyp: you forward the port from the external ip to the internal ip
[01:42] <th0r> rileyp: or if you are running an internal network, you can add the mythpodcaster ip to the hosts file on each internal workstation
[01:42] <vandemar> internal dns proxy that fakes authority for the dyndns provider and resolves your dyndns name to the internal ip
[01:43] <plus1more> use bind for a <host.txt>
[01:43] <th0r> vandemar: obviously you are a top down programmer....while I am a bottom up programmer <smile>
 rileyp: or if you are running an internal network, you can add the mythpodcaster ip to the hosts file on each internal workstation I have done this
[01:44] <plus1more> th0r is right .. for the external world, but vandemar is right for the internal users .. they need to see a working external official domain?
[01:46] <rileyp> th0r> rileyp: you forward the port from the external ip to the internal ip I have a billion dsl modem/router and I port forward 80 to the server ip
[01:46] <plus1more> so rileyp if u dont want to access an ip-number as domain you have to setup an internal dns-server .. to intercept request to your dyndns domain that points to your internal address
[01:46] <Atomix26> How would I get rid of my computer asking which OS to load? I would like to get my computer back to the way it was until my father who works with unix/linux for a living gets in here to get things working better
[01:47] <jgpzen> ^ hahaha
[01:47] <plus1more> that is .. your dns is authoritive for internal requests
[01:47] <Atomix26> ?
[01:47] <jgpzen> It's just cool that you made it to irc
[01:47] <Atomix26> huh?
[01:47] <escott> Atomix26, /etc/default/grub and you can adjust the timeouts, just update-grub afterwards
[01:48] <davidrsmorris_> why might my livedcd refuse to use eth0?
[01:48] <Atomix26> Whoa whoa whoa
[01:48] <Atomix26> I have no clue what either of you are talking about
[01:49] <Atomix26> ubuntu does not work on my machine
[01:49] <rileyp> plus1more, http://code.google.com/p/mythpodcaster/issues/detail?id=28#c14 thi si what I was told but do not understand it precisely
[01:49] <improveupon> does anyone use mldonkey, or can anyone recommend a good p2p client
[01:49] <Problems> hello
[01:49] <Atomix26> Good bye
[01:49] <jgpzen> Atomix26, wait
[01:50] <jgpzen> Atomix26, I know how I can help you and it's easy
[01:50] <Problems> how do you make compiz permanent?
[01:50] <rileyp> I have asked in networking but no one responds.... 3 or more reponses here go figure... :D
[01:50] <Atomix26> Which would be? I cannot get on the computer at the moment. T-storm. I am working from my laptop(which I do not want ubuntu on)
[01:51] <nunu> test first time using xchat on ubuntu
 so rileyp if u dont want to access an ip-number as domain you have to setup an internal dns-server .. to intercept request to your dyndns domain that points to your internal address
[01:51] <davidrsmorris_> Problems: are you using a livecd?
[01:51] <plus1more> perl works . python works. php works.         because html sucks : )))
[01:51] <Atomix26> Me?
[01:51] <rileyp> so On my router I add the dns name and ip of my server in the dns list
[01:51] <jgpzen> Atomix26, Welcome to the internet
[01:51] <Problems> davidrsmorris_: no i am using full desktop version
[01:52] <billybigrigger> Atomix26, what's your problem?
[01:52] <Atomix26> Can I PM you?
[01:52] <rileyp> plus1more so On my router I add the dns name and ip of my server in the dns list
[01:52] <billybigrigger> your questions might be answered easier if you ask in here, but i don't mind
[01:53] <davidrsmorris_> Problems: And you're setting up compiz, but you lose those settings when you restart, or when you logout and login?
[01:53] <plus1more> rileyp: sry mate .. wrong chan
[01:53] <rileyp> vandemar internal dns proxy that fakes authority for the dyndns provider and resolves your dyndns name to the internal ip  How do I do that?
[01:53] <Problems> davidrsmorris_: yes
[01:54] <plus1more> anyway, theres no easy solution .. you'll have to install "bind" and configure it accordingly .. no easy task .. but simple .. go figure
[01:54] <rileyp> plus1more come to to #networking Ill make it easy for you /join #networking    :D
[01:54] <davidrsmorris_> Problems: see if its when you log out and in, or when you restart.
[01:55] <Starminn> In Ubuntu 10.10, Audacity is not picking up any external sound inout. Whatever I play is just relayed over my system speakers -- Audacity doesn't even know it's there.
[01:55] <davidrsmorris_> Problems: are you using compiz --replace?
[01:55] <Problems> davidrsmorris_: when i log in and log out
[01:55] <plus1more> rileyp: furthermoe you will have to point all your internal clients that want to resolve the domain("dyndns:domain) that external people can use to an internal ip-adress say 192.168.1.117 ... unless you want to run out of the house everytime to access it fromt he "outside" :P
[01:56] <Problems> davidrsmorris_: thats what I dont want to use because it just reverts after that
[01:56] <plus1more> to your internal dns bind server
[01:57] <escott> rileyp, if the port is forwarded things will still work it will just go A->router-(realize its router to itself)->router-(forward)->B
[01:57] <plus1more> rileyp: basically you hijack dns request from internal clients.
[01:57] <davidrsmorris_> Problems: Gnome-sessions.  THere's a dropdown box on the login screen.
[01:57] <escott> rileyp, so don't even bother enabling a dns to override the dyndns. as a bonus you get to double check your dyndns is working
[01:58] <Problems> davidrsmorris_: yes which one do I pick?
[01:58] <plus1more> escott: wrong
[01:59] <plus1more> escott: it is wrong because "domain-from-dyndns" will resolve to IP adress of router-wan-port .. so he just sees his router login page
[01:59] <Mikaze> My router (a linksys wrt54gl) does the dyndns for me, but you can use ez-ipupdate to link your IP with many dynamic dns providers...
[02:00] <rileyp> escott> rileyp, so don't even bother enabling a dns to override the dyndns. as a bonus you get to double check your dyndns is working this is what I thought It just going to my dndns address and its send me back to my wan ip which then sends me onto my servers ip
[02:00] <rileyp> escot is that correct
[02:01] <The-Kernel> hi, I have a 500GB hard drive in my system, I was wondering, if I add another 500GB, can I set it up in a RAID1 with the first without erasing the data already on the first?
[02:01] <Mikaze> You need to set up port forwarding on your router then, most likely.  Just be aware you cannot access your own system by domain name.
[02:01] <stercor> I just installed syncevolution with sudo apt-get.  I'd like to install genesis_sync, a GUI front end for syncevolution.  It's in a PPA.  I've successfully done the add-apt-repository and the apt-get update.  The program doesn't appear to be on my system.  Is there something else that I must do?
[02:01] <plus1more> rileyp: you cannot rely on an external dns-server to find your service (whatever port) that is running inside your network. you have to mirror the response from the outside dns-server by hijacking the dns request from internal networks, by setting up an autoritive dns server internally for the domains you want to "hijack" .. interally is the word
[02:01] <jgpzen> If hes trying to give internal users a different IP for an external domain its as easy as pointing lan users to a local dns and setting an A record for that domain to a local IP
[02:01] <escott> plus1more, disagrees. but that would be my expectation. go out to dyndns and get directed to your wan ip. try to connect to your wan ip the router realizes thats not on the inside side of the network and sends it to the wan which sends it right back which forwards to your internal address
[02:02] <escott> The-Kernel, yes see tutorials on raid conversion
[02:03] <plus1more> escott: i'm sorry .. i complained ... my router is shi1tty : P
[02:03] <rileyp> jgpzen, ie adding to /etc/hosts
[02:04] <josheee12> hey guys.  currently running softraid.  i'll be getting an SSD in a few weeks.  wanted to move the OS to the SSD, /home on RAID.  any known tutorials?
[02:07] <rileyp> plus1more do I go fing out about interally?
[02:07] <rileyp> find out sorry
[02:07] <escott> plus1more, rileyp not overriding dns works perfectly on mine. I just get reflected back so it looks like I am coming from my routers WAN
[02:07] <escott> plus1more, install tomato if you can
[02:07] <plus1more> rileyp: simple yes: your service is 192.168.0.10:port:x . your dyndns domain is example.com. you forward your port:x from router to 192.168.0.10 <. everythings good. but if u typ exmaple.com as adress on internal machine it doesnt work. you need to setup an internal dns-server that authoritive for 192.168.0.10 that sya: 192.168.0.10 IS example.com and tell all your INTERNAL machines to use that.
[02:09] <plus1more> ..use that internal dns-server ..
[02:09] <rileyp> plus1more you are a champion thankyou
[02:09] <Jaded> ubuntu i hate you :(
[02:09] <rileyp> now to cut and paste todays help....
[02:09] <blackshirt> Jaded: why ?
[02:09] <plus1more> the dns server software is called "bind" ... a step-up more complicated "host.txt"
[02:10] <billybigrigger> is there any one here that can help out a wubi user?
[02:10] <rileyp> plus1more,  So I could run bind on my server?
[02:10] <plus1more> rileyp: thank you .. and thank you : )))
[02:10] <billybigrigger> more speficially Atomix26, he's having trouble with wubi, and i can't say i've ever used it
[02:10] <blackshirt> billybigrigger: what exactly your problem with wubi ?
[02:11] <billybigrigger> blackshirt, not me
[02:11] <billybigrigger> i'm trying to help him but i haven't ever used wubi, i was hoping someone could help him, i tried, but i just don't know anything about it
[02:12] <blackshirt> billybigrigger: i think you can advice him to dual boot
[02:12] <cuddlefish> Ukto: There's also ubitex.org, for buying with cash
[02:12] <cuddlefish> eh, wrong window
[02:13] <Atomix26> yeah, that is rather undesirable
[02:14] <Jaded> because I keep getting crazy high CPU use
[02:14] <blackshirt> Jaded: have you check running process ??
[02:15] <Jaded> yes
[02:15] <Jaded> looks pretty normal, except the system monitor is using about 30%
[02:16] <blackshirt> Jaded: have you install some program from another repo's or maybe somebug on your  app
[02:18] <supercom32> What file system is the safest to use? That is, contains the most features to guarentee as little data loss as possible due to some kind of malfunction?
[02:19] <billybigrigger> supercom32, what do you use the system for?
[02:19] <billybigrigger> there's nothing wrong with ext4
[02:20] <billybigrigger> supercom32, i haven't had to much trouble with it on my servers, for my home fileserver i ran with xfs for a bit on an archlinux install...but i always end up falling back on ubuntu and ext4
[02:20] <billybigrigger> well ext3/4 i guess since it's fairly new
[02:20] <billybigrigger> but stable and mature enough
[02:20] <supercom32> billybigrigger: Just large files (10gb+) and I want to try and guarantee some kind of integrity. Like in the event of a hard power off, or unsafe unplug, which FS will survive the best?
[02:21] <billybigrigger> supercom32, well then your going to want a journaling fs
[02:21] <escott> supercom32, with a file that large you want something with extents but checksums would also be nice. ext4 has extents, but I don't think it has checksums
[02:22] <supercom32> escott: Forgive the newbie question, but what are extents exactly/
[02:22] <billybigrigger> supercom32, ext4 is the way to go man
[02:22] <escott> supercom32, instead of saying file is in block 1,2,3,4,5... it says file is in blocks range 1-100
[02:23] <supercom32> escott: oh, yes. Right right.
[02:23] <Jaded> i don't know what's going on.....
[02:24] <supercom32> Ah apparently ext4 does have checksums
[02:24] <noobuntu> Hi im new to ubuntu i installed ubuntu 11.04 on my pc as the solitary os.  The partitions are sda1 as the primary and then sda5 as the swap.  I read that Im supposed to have a seperate partition for home or my data in case i have to reinstall.  How do I do that?  Thank you...
[02:24] <escott> supercom32, i think its just the journal being checksummed not the files
[02:24] <blackshirt> Jaded : i think there are someone here can help you...
[02:26] <supercom32> escott: Does btrfs checksum files?
[02:26] <centHOGG> reinstall for linux?
[02:26] <billybigrigger> noobuntu, you really need to set that up during your install
[02:26] <vandemar> supercom32: it checksums blocks, you can also turn that feature off if you really want to
[02:26] <escott> supercom32, feature-wise i think btrfs sounds best for large files like that, but its still in development
[02:27] <noobuntu> billy, thx, I was thinking that when I was installing with the live cd but had no idea how to partition in the advanced options...
[02:27] <billybigrigger> noobuntu, how long have you had your system installed? ie if you don't have to much going on with it right now we can walk through how to setup your partitions so that later down the road in weeks/months/years it will save you alot of hassle in dealing with backing stuff up and transferring files
[02:27] <billybigrigger> if you have a decent system a reinstall should only take a few minutes...
[02:27] <billybigrigger> and its not much of a hassle to do it now, properly
[02:27] <noobuntu> thx billy.  honestly, my stuff is all backed up.  Ive been playing with ubuntu and mint for the last week so, I can reinstall.
[02:28] <billybigrigger> ok
[02:28] <billybigrigger> how big is your hard drive?
[02:28] <noobuntu> it is 250gb
[02:28] <billybigrigger> how much ram?
[02:29] <noobuntu> 4
[02:29] <billybigrigger> do you play around with kernel compiling?
[02:29] <escott> supercom32, just dont use ext3 and i think its fine.
[02:30] <billybigrigger> supercom32, stick with ext4 :)
[02:30] <noobuntu> nope, im brand new to linux and barely know the sudo apt commands
[02:30] <supercom32> billybigrigger: Does ext4 have backup superblocks/journals in case the main one gets corrupt?
[02:30] <cuddlefish> yes
[02:30] <billybigrigger> if you'd like to know, google is switching from ext2 to ext4, they weighed out all the options for FS's and they've decided that over xfs, ext4 is the way to go...for them...
[02:31] <billybigrigger> supercom32, read wikipedia :P
[02:31] <billybigrigger> ext4 is a journaling FS yes...
[02:31] <escott> supercom32, yes at least one you can configure it to have others (just write down the address of the backup superblock)
[02:31] <rhcp> Sup guys
[02:31] <supercom32> i see.
[02:31] <rhcp> Is the nvdia bug fixed on the latest ubuntu?
[02:31] <billybigrigger> noobuntu, ok, if your not compiling/playing with kernels its easy then...
[02:31] <rhcp> ive heard nvdia cards had a bug
[02:31] <rhcp> and to stay away from upgrade :)
[02:31] <escott> supercom32, there is not a backup journal though. if you are this worried you should have a backup disk not just a backup journal
[02:31] <billybigrigger> noobuntu, 2GB swap, 20GB / (root partition) and allocate the rest to /home
[02:31] <noobuntu> billybigrigger, cool
[02:32] <billybigrigger> noobuntu, use the filesystem of choice...i suggest ext4 :P
[02:32] <billybigrigger> noobuntu, if you were a kernel junkie we could set you up with a 500MB /boot partition but that's unneeded
[02:32] <noobuntu> billybigrigger, so this can be done easily with the livecd?
[02:32] <billybigrigger> noobuntu, yes on a re-install
[02:33] <supercom32> escott: Yes, I really should just be doing a traditional backup :P
[02:33] <rhcp> so anyone with ideas with the new ubuntu? with the nvidia issues?
[02:33] <rhcp> curious if i can upgrade or not
[02:33] <billybigrigger> you'll need to do advanced partitioning though, i can't remember the option, but DON'T let ubuntu partition for you
[02:33] <noobuntu> billybigrigger, ok i will give that a try.  i made a apt to cd disk.  what directories should I be backing up so I can reinstall preferences and settings easily
[02:34] <billybigrigger> noobuntu, your /home :)
[02:34] <noobuntu> billybigrigger, yup, figured that one :)
[02:34] <toad`> hi
[02:34] <billybigrigger> thats why if your /home is on a separate partition, you can switch between, ubuntu/debian/fedora/mint, and keep the same /home partition, with all your setttings and preferences...
[02:34] <toad`> What would be the easeist way to reinstall Ubuntu 10.04 that is dual booted with GRUB2?
[02:34] <toad`> with windows 7
[02:35] <toad`> can I just delete the partition /sda5 I believe and reinstal on the freespace? or does that mess up GRUB?
[02:35] <billybigrigger> you just format your root partition and install your distribution of choice, keeping in tact your /home...and away you go
[02:35] <toad`> that wont mess with windows?
[02:35] <toad`> FAT32?
[02:35] <billybigrigger> toad`, it might, if /sda5 is your windows partition
[02:35] <toad`> no
[02:35] <toad`> its the Ubuntu partition
[02:35] <billybigrigger> you need to be a bit more specific of your questions
[02:35] <toad`> I have it installed
[02:36] <toad`> Well this has all stemmed from NetworkManager disappearing after I installed Arping
[02:36] <toad`> so I have no networkmanager, cant get online. I cant figure out how to reconfig ifconfig or whatever it is I need to reconfig. so I figured I'd just reinstal.
[02:36] <toad`> or can I instal packages straight from the LiveCD?
[02:37] <centHOGG> nope
[02:37] <improveupon> does anyone here use mldonkey/can anyone recommend a debian p2p client?
[02:37] <toad`> hrm
[02:37] <noobuntu> for a new linux user, is it best to start off as mint or stay with ubuntu
[02:37] <toad`> so right I'm just thinking a fresh instal would be easier
[02:37] <billybigrigger> noobuntu, whatever your more comfortable with
[02:37] <toad`> so should I delete the original Ubuntu partition?
[02:38] <billybigrigger> toad`, just reinstall over it
[02:38] <toad`> over it?
[02:38] <toad`> thats what I'd like to do
[02:38] <toad`> but in order to do that dont I have to delete that partition? thats the only option i can see that would do anythign like that
[02:38] <noobuntu> billybigrigger, i liked the mint design, but I cant find a good livecd install and the unetbootin only has the mint9 available
[02:38] <billybigrigger> noobuntu, stick with ubuntu
[02:39] <billybigrigger> you can customize and make any distribution look however you want it
[02:40] <ZykoticK9_> noobuntu, unetbootin has an option to use an ISO you have downloaded (the "mint9" option just downloads for you) so you can use pretty much any gnu/linux distro you want
[02:40] <toad`> i like the looks of Mint too
[02:40] <toad`> how do you get your bar to look like mints? is there a style/skin for it?
[02:40] <toad`> theme rather
[02:40] <toad`> but anyway, back to reinstalling
[02:41] <toad`> someone help me out real quick
[02:41] <SubCool> can someone help me with my webcam and skype.. It wont work for skype, but it works on cheese.
[02:41] <blackshirt> toad: you can install mint theme on ubuntu :d
[02:41] <toad`> ok cool
[02:41] <toad`> I need to figure out how to reinstall
[02:42] <escott> SubCool, you dont get any video in skype? can you select the camera in skype?
[02:42] <toad`> do I select partitions? or 'install them side by side'?
[02:42] <noobuntu> zykotic9, when I tried unet to create a mint11 cd, it asked for the mounting point and i did not know how to select that
[02:42] <blackshirt> toad: what are you doing reinstall for ?
[02:42] <toad`> cause NetworkManager dissappeared or stopped working thanks to Arping in 10.04
[02:42] <SubCool> escott, there is only one option in skype.. And no- no video.
[02:42] <toad`> so I figured instead of messing around wiht that seeing as how it was almost a fresh instal already I figured I would just reinstall
[02:43] <escott> SubCool, you could try using LD_PRELOAD to force skype to use v4l2 library it might work
[02:44] <toad`> blackshirt, what should I do
[02:44] <escott> SubCool #!/bin/bash \n export LIBV4LCONTROL_FLAGS=3 \n LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib32/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype
[02:44] <SubCool> i saw that on the fix list on one of the forums.. it didnt work
[02:44] <toad`> do I specify partitions manually and delete the partition that has Ubuntu on it already?
[02:44] <SubCool> but ill try it..
[02:44] <SubCool> isnt that the script?
[02:44] <escott> SubCool, if you are 32bit install it would be /usr/lib instead of /usr/lib32
[02:44] <blackshirt> toad: if you want reinstall network-manager, you can reinstall it with apt or package manager
[02:45] <toad`> i cant get online
[02:45] <SubCool> so only the LD_PRELOAD line? or the entire script
[02:45] <toad`> can I apt and get from the LiveCD?
[02:45] <DigitalSkin> was wondering what is a ppa really?
[02:45] <maco> DigitalSkin: third-party repository
[02:45] <maco> toad`: yes
[02:45] <escott> SubCool, im honestly not sure what the V4L control flags do. try it without, then try it with
[02:46] <SubCool> i just did it- it worked..
[02:46] <cryptopsy> is it possible to encrypt tmpfs?
[02:46] <toad`> well thats what I was asking before
[02:46] <toad`> and ppl said no
[02:46] <toad`> that would fix all my problems really and I wouldnt have to worry bout reinstalling
[02:46] <cryptopsy> toad`: what are you trying to do ? i just go there?
[02:46] <SubCool> escott, where do i put the script
[02:46] <zelrik> hi
[02:46] <toad`> I need NetworkManager
[02:46] <toad`> lol
[02:47] <toad`> or to reinstall Ubuntu and delete the original partition
[02:47] <escott> SubCool, ~/bin is a good place
[02:47] <zelrik> how to setup an intuos 3 on a dual screen on ubuntu
[02:47] <cryptopsy> install wpa_supplicant that will manage the fuck out of your network
[02:47] <toad`> just install the drivers zelrick
[02:47] <blackshirt> toad: you can alternate cd...
[02:47] <toad`> I'm not sure about the intuos 3 but my intuos4 installed fairly easily
[02:47] <SubCool> escott, ok- what do i name it?
[02:47] <SubCool> skype?
[02:48] <zelrik> is there drivers for intuos?
[02:48] <escott> SubCool, i called my skype-fixed.sh if you just call it skype double check that $HOME/bin comes first in your $PATH
[02:48] <toad`> yeah
[02:48] <toad`> go to wacom.com
[02:48] <blackshirt> toad: use alternate cd
[02:48] <toad`> their customer service will hook you up they are really good bout helping folks
[02:48] <toad`> waht do you mean blackshirt ?
[02:48] <escott> SubCool, and don't forget to chmod +x the file
[02:48] <toad`> I have a liveCD
[02:48] <toad`> how would I get that package off? network-manager gnome
[02:48] <toad`> or somethign
[02:49] <blackshirt> toad: live cd contain squashfs filesystem..not exactly .deb packages
[02:49] <SubCool> escott, thanks alot- i shoulda known.
[02:49] <escott> SubCool, enjoy
[02:49] <blackshirt> toad: you can download it manually from packages.ubuntu.com
[02:49] <toad`> lol
[02:49] <toad`> no I cant
[02:49] <toad`> I cant get ONLINE!
[02:50] <toad`> do you mean use the LiveCD and download frmo there? can I instal it using the LiveCD?
[02:50] <toad`> or should I just download and stick it in the filesystem?
[02:50] <toad`> would that work?
[02:50] <zelrik> ok so the drivers are already installed
[02:50] <blackshirt> toad: are you have alternate ubuntu cd or dvd  ??
[02:50] <toad`> I have a LiveCD
[02:50] <toad`> dvd
[02:50] <toad`> whatever itr is
[02:50] <toad`> I have one I burned myself and one Ubuntu sent me
[02:50] <zelrik> my tablet pad covers only 1/2 of the screen
[02:50] <toad`> lol
[02:50] <zelrik> and 1/4 when I try to configure it
[02:50] <toad`> you need to change the thing
[02:51] <escott> toad`, is network manager still installed?
[02:51] <toad`> NO
[02:51] <toad`> its pcakage is completely gone
[02:51] <toad`> after installing Arping
[02:51] <toad`> apparently their is a conflict in 10.04
[02:51] <escott> toad`, is the nm package still in /var/cache/apt
[02:51] <blackshirt> toad: if you have ubuntu dvd's, i think you can use it to install from
[02:51] <toad`> it removed it after it installed which was strange, I didnt really notice at first
[02:51] <toad`> I tried that escott :P
[02:51] <toad`> install the package?
[02:52] <escott> toad`, boot the livecd chroot yourself in, then install nm
[02:53] <cryptopsy> can mplayer play flv files?
[02:53] <toad`> I can install it to the filesystem? from the LiveCD?
[02:53] <cryptopsy> also what are the main differneces between mplaye rand mplayer2
[02:53] <toad`> do I install it straight from the CD? or do I need to download it?
[02:53] <escott> toad`, are you familiar with a chroot?
[02:53] <cryptopsy> what's a spam filter i can use with mutt email client?
[02:53] <toad`> no
[02:54] <escott> toad`, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#ChRoot (its for grub but the principle is the same). gives you access to your system but using the livecds to provide the basic system
[02:54] <zelrik> http://bensimonds.com/2011/05/25/setting-up-dual-monitors-with-a-wacom-tablet-on-ubuntu-11-04/ doesnt work :(
[02:54] <JoeR1> is there a command to update the kernel?
[02:55] <cryptopsy> yes - rebuild it
[02:55] <zelrik> how do I configure an intuos 3 on a dual screen?
[02:55] <cryptopsy> if previous part of it are there it will use those, if they are different it will rewrite them
[02:56] <hdon-> is there a command line tool to burn DVDs?
[02:56] <hdon-> (just want a filesystem, not DVD video or anything)
[02:56] <ZykoticK9_> hdon-, growisofs
[02:56] <cryptopsy> hdon-: yes lots of them google it
[02:56] <escott> hdon-, wodim
[02:56] <hdon-> ZykoticK9_, thanks
[02:56] <hdon-> escott, thanks
[02:56] <hdon-> cryptopsy, google "gratitude"
[02:56] <cryptopsy> hdon-: what's that supposed to mean, that you're mad and lazy?
[02:58] <Cuchulainn> so anyone have any insight into my issue?
[02:58] <Starminn> In Ubuntu 10.10, Audacity is not picking up any external sound inout. Whatever I play is just relayed over my system speakers -- Audacity doesn't even know it's there.
[02:58] <zelrik> hmm
[02:58] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: i joined after you asked, what was it?
[02:58] <zelrik> that s weird
[02:58] <toad`> escott,
[02:58] <toad`> is this what I need tho?
[02:58] <zelrik> xandr only lists one monitor
[02:58] <toad`> I dont need to reinstall GRUB
[02:58] <toad`> I need NetworkManager
[02:58] <toad`> heh
[02:58] <FloodBot1> toad`: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:58] <zelrik> and I have 2
[02:59] <cryptopsy> Starminn: check if alsamixer has a default sound device set with alsamixer then press f6
[02:59] <Cuchulainn> cryptopsy, at logon, the keyboard has a lag...1/2 second or so...have to press and hold to get the key to register...
[02:59] <escott> cryptopsy, seems like a perfectly reasonable response. not everyone would know what to search for. i didnt realize until yesterday that cdrecord had been renamed to wodim
[02:59] <Cuchulainn> cryptopsy, is fine once i'm logged in...happened once before w/ natty beta...
[03:00] <cryptopsy> escott: command line burning linux
[03:00] <cryptopsy> done.
[03:00] <Cuchulainn> cryptopsy, happened again with updates..?
[03:00] <escott> toad`, follow the chroot up to the grub-install then try apt-get install network-manager instead
[03:00] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: it could be due to many things but you can investigate by checking your kernel logs to see if its don't something in a loop that it shouldnt, or monitor disk IO
[03:01] <Cuchulainn> cryptopsy, is on netbook, so probably not like os/2 style interrupt, but more like usb?
[03:01] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: oh you're running from a usb stick?
[03:01] <cryptopsy> yea that would do it
[03:01] <Cuchulainn> cryptopsy, so how to check kernel log, and what am i looking for?
[03:01] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: just type dmesg
[03:01] <Cuchulainn> cryptopsy, no, full install..
[03:02] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: yea but what did you full install on
[03:02] <FlashSmith> Hello everyone
[03:02] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn:  you can full install on a usb stick or you can use the usb installation on a hardrive
[03:02] <cryptopsy> FlashSmith: hi
[03:02] <Cuchulainn> cryptopsy,HD, MSI u100 "windbook"
[03:02] <cryptopsy> no one knows what that is
[03:03] <yassine_hell> hi, how can i know which version of postgresql i have?
[03:03] <zelrik> xsetwacom set "Wacom Intuos3 6x8" MapToOutput defaultUnknown parameter name 'MapToOutput'
[03:03] <Cuchulainn> cryptopsy, dmesg | grep ?
[03:03] <JoeR1> is there a command to update the kernel?
[03:03] <FlashSmith> I havve heard about Ubuntu, and I was thinking of using/trying it, but I'm not sure
[03:03] <escott> JoeR1, why do you want to update?
[03:03] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: we don't really have a guess waht the problem is so you can't grep
[03:03] <JoeR1> FlashSmith, They have a try without installing feature on the cd
[03:03] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: dmesg |more
[03:04] <FlashSmith> CD?
[03:04] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: pastebin it if you want other people ot help you look
[03:04] <py9371> when looking at problems thats say stuff about graphs how should i start these problem
[03:04] <cryptopsy> pastebin.com
[03:04] <FlashSmith> I'm not sure how to do either
[03:04] <JoeR1> escott - just hoping to be at the most recent version, so is there a command?
[03:04] <py9371> like inflection points etc
[03:04] <Cuchulainn> cryptopsy, atkbd might be a suspect?
[03:04] <cryptopsy> atkbd what
[03:04] <py9371> do I have to find several points and graph all these problems?
[03:04] <Cuchulainn> cryptopsy, ok, walk me through pastebin..never used..
[03:04] <cryptopsy> copy and paste
[03:05] <cryptopsy> then press 'upload'
[03:05] <cryptopsy> or whatever it says
[03:05] <cryptopsy> there's many pastebins
[03:05] <FlashSmith> How would I try Ubuntu without installing?
[03:05] <cryptopsy> actually ...
[03:05] <FloodBot1> cryptopsy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:05] <centHOGG> livecd
[03:05] <zelrik> grrr
[03:05] <escott> JoeR1, not really. they settle on a version. stabilize and test it, and then give smaller bug fixes. you could install a vanilla kernel from the ubuntu kernel group, but without a reason (like this device driver doesn't work) you are just asking for things to break
[03:05] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: go to ompldr.org and upload 'dmesg >myfile'
[03:05] <zelrik> nothing works
[03:05] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: then paste the link it gives you here
[03:05] <cryptopsy> it will be a direct link to your file
[03:05] <Cuchulainn> [    0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset
[03:05] <Cuchulainn> [    0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpu
[03:05] <Cuchulainn> [    0.000000] Linux version 2.6.38-8-generic (buildd@vernadsky) (gcc version 4.5.2 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.5.2-8ubuntu3) ) #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 03:31:50 UTC 2011 (Ubuntu 2.6.38-8.42-generic 2.6.38.2)
[03:05] <Cuchulainn> [    0.000000] Atom PSE erratum detected, BIOS microcode update recommended
[03:05] <Cuchulainn> [    0.000000] BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
[03:05] <FloodBot1> Cuchulainn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:05] <py9371> flashsmith - put the cd in before boot and ther is an optrion to boot live cd or something
[03:05] <cryptopsy> FlashSmith: order a free cd
[03:06] <cryptopsy> you can install it on disposable things like usb sticks or cd roms
[03:06] <cryptopsy> but you always have to do some kind of installation
[03:06] <cryptopsy> unetbootin will do it automatically for you
[03:06] <FlashSmith> How would I order a free CD? I thought you had to buy a CD?
[03:06] <py9371> flashmith no you can download ubuntu for free its free
[03:06] <cryptopsy> FlashSmith: oh maybe they stopped offering that
[03:06] <cuddlefish> cryptopsy: shipit is off
[03:06] <maco> cryptopsy: they did
[03:06] <FlashSmith> Wait what do you mean somekind of installation?
[03:06] <IdleOne> !shipit
[03:06] <Cuchulainn> cryptopsy, thanks...sorry...try to learn...
[03:06] <cryptopsy> maco: i remember you
[03:06] <Cuchulainn> cryptopsy, http://paste.ubuntu.com/628241/
[03:07] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: okay now share that with people that want to look at it
[03:07] <maco> FlashSmith: you can just burn a cd of ubuntu and try it from that. you dont *have* to install to your system to use it
[03:07] <toad`> escott,
[03:07] <FlashSmith> Oh oh well, how would I make my own CD or usbstick with Ubuntu?
[03:07] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: but direct links are more convenient
[03:07] <cryptopsy> maco:  you're that cute girl from the ubuntu webpage right
[03:07] <maco> FlashSmith: the "desktop" iso on the download page on ubuntu.com is a live cd
[03:07] <IdleOne> !usb > FlashSmith
[03:07] <maco> cryptopsy: uh...
[03:07] <toad`> I get the 'Following packages were automatically installed and no longer required; linux-headers-2.6.32-21'
[03:07] <cryptopsy> yea the one with the unibrow, i remember you
[03:08] <maco> cryptopsy: i'm a woman with an ubuntu blog, if that's what you mean
[03:08] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: those atkbd lines are probably from when you were pressing keys
[03:08] <cryptopsy> but i don't know how many times you pressed it
[03:08] <IdleOne> toad`: sudo apt-get autoremove will get remove it
[03:08] <cryptopsy> but see how it says 'composite sync not supported', you can investigate that
[03:08] <Cuchulainn> cryptopsy, http://ompldr.org/vOTNtaA]http://ompldr.org/vOTNtaA
[03:08] <toad`> remove linux-headers?
[03:08] <cryptopsy> also note the times between the events
[03:08] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: ompldr has a firefox tool and lets you upload other media too like images
[03:08] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: that's why i suggested it
[03:08] <toad`> I said Y and it said 'Something wicked happend resolving 'us.archive.ubuntu.com:http'
[03:09] <toad`> it cant connect out
[03:09] <toad`> apparently
[03:09] <toad`> Unable to fetch some archives ... etc..
[03:09] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: people who want to downloda your files can use 'wget yourfileURL'
[03:09] <toad`> No address associated with hostname
[03:09] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: another good tool is etherpad by google
[03:09] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: they quit that project so now there are various ehterpads, one is piratepad.net
[03:09] <cryptopsy> or maybe its .com
[03:09] <IdleOne> toad`: if the package manager says it is no longer needed it is fine to remove
[03:09] <escott> toad`, blah you probably need to copy some things like resolve.conf over from /etc
[03:09] <cryptopsy> but its like a multiplayer pastebin
[03:10] <toad`> hrmpf
[03:10] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: for examle you and your friend can be both editing your document in REALTIME, and at the same time
[03:10] <toad`> so what should I do
[03:10] <Cuchulainn> cryptopsy, so a netbook kbd works more like network transport layer, where instead of interrupt, it sends until gets ACK or not?
[03:10] <toad`> grr
[03:10] <cryptopsy> toad`: ask in the ubuntu forums
[03:10] <toad`> see escott I think it would just be easier to reinstall
[03:10] <toad`> lol
[03:10] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: i don't know
[03:10] <cryptopsy> people don't memorize these things
[03:10] <rednut> hi guys
[03:10] <cryptopsy> rednut: hi
[03:10] <centHOGG> h
[03:11] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: you can ignore all the sdc stuff
[03:11] <cryptopsy> if you want to test your keys you can use xev
[03:11] <FlashSmith> Hmm I don't think I can use a usb since I don't think I have a big enough usb. Is it possible to burn a cd; can any computer/desktop burn a cd?
[03:11] <escott> toad`, try copying /etc/resolve.conf and /etc/hosts from the livecd to the chroot just in case
[03:11] <cryptopsy> FlashSmith: is it possible to burn a cd?
[03:12] <cryptopsy> its not withcraft
[03:12] <centHOGG> *witchcraft
[03:12] <escott> toad`, and see if you can ping something like 192.168.1.1 inside the chroot (assuming that is your router)
[03:12] <cryptopsy> yea like no one knew without your brilliant correction
[03:12] <centHOGG> thx
[03:12] <rednut> I'm looking for a cloning software, like clonezilla but in native no a live cd, to make an iso out of an hard drive ( not using the cmd dd or mkiso) Anyone has a hint ?
[03:13] <Cuchulainn> cryptopsy, what is 'latency timer'?
[03:13] <centHOGG> i use acronis (just cause)
[03:13] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: depends on the contexy
[03:13] <cryptopsy> t
[03:13] <toad`> hrmm
[03:13] <toad`> it pings
[03:13] <toad`> I'll try and reboot
[03:13] <quentusrex> How do you get more info on what version of a kernel module is loaded?
[03:13] <FlashSmith> Hmm, I have a few more questions I guess. If youre booting from a cd, does it install something on the computer, would it affect any of the existing files within the computer?
[03:14] <escott> toad`, then its probably just dns (ie the resolve.conf)
[03:14] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: oh in your dmesg, ... you can ignore it
[03:14] <escott> toad`, were you able to install nm?
[03:14] <jgpzen> modinfo
[03:14] <Cuchulainn> cryptopsy, looks like my bios needs an upgrade?
[03:14] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: probably not
[03:14] <zelrik> is there a way to make a tablet work on a dual screen on ubuntu?
[03:14] <jgpzen> root@ubuntu:~# modinfo bnx2
[03:14] <FlashSmith> ?
[03:14] <escott> toad`, and i realize telling you to copy over /etc/hosts would have blown away your hostname
[03:14] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: did you find out what atkbd and that other one mean?
[03:15] <toad`> i think so
[03:15] <no-name-> got python 3.1 interpreter from software centre, typed python in shell but still comes up with 2.6 interpreter
[03:15] <toad`> it said the stuff about linux-headers
[03:15] <toad`> but it says that everytime I try to apt-get something
[03:15] <jgpzen> no-name-,  Need to update the symlink
[03:15] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: try xev first too
[03:15] <jgpzen> Check path for python3.*
[03:15] <toad`> I said Y and it said something something bout somethign wicked happening no able to resolve hostname etc...
[03:15] <Cuchulainn> cryptopsy, is that a cli command, or something to look for in dmesg?
[03:16] <cryptopsy> its a program that you run from the command line
[03:16] <Cuchulainn> cryptopsy, you have to keep in mind that i am a babe in the woods when it comes to this stuff..
[03:16] <escott> toad`, well if you get nm working again on the installed system you will need to correct /etc/hosts to make sure your /etc/hostname is mapped to 127.0.0.1
[03:16] <Cuchulainn> cryptopsy, so thanks for the patience..
[03:16] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: yea just install it
[03:16] <cryptopsy> and run it
[03:16] <cryptopsy> simpull
[03:16] <mrdeb> Cuchulainn: lol babe in woods
[03:16] <centHOGG> amber alert
[03:17] <no-name-> jgpzen: I asked in #python. typing python3 works
[03:17] <escott> toad`, thats no doubt what apt said was wicked, because hosts didn't direct hostname back to the localhost
[03:17] <Logan_> There are still inherent problems with XHCI, USB 3.0, and suspending on Natty, yet a bug relating to this was resolved as "Fix released," with comments since about workarounds still needing to be applied but no developer activity.  Why is this?
[03:17] <Cuchulainn> cryptopsy, x11-utils?
[03:17] <qin> grekkos: Interesting that my ping on lan is 17ms, came across this: http://cloudservers.rackspacecloud.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Intrepid_-_HLDS_(Steam_Version) , with all important line: apt-get install lib32gcc1 (since lack of free 64bit not tested)
[03:19] <Cuchulainn> cryptopsy, 'sudo apt-get install xev'='no installation candidate'
[03:21] <Jaded> I've learnt a lot about linux today :)
[03:21] <centHOGG> g
[03:22] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: apt-get search xev
 Anyone have an xchat now playing plugin for vlc
 or even an alternate media player for linux (that you know of a now playing script/plugin)
[03:22] <mrdeb> Jaded: good luck and feel free to always ask
[03:22] <thatITguy> jaded: good ;) you're doing well!
[03:22] <Corey> Drew|: Those things are terrible.
[03:22] <Drew|> Corey, heh
[03:22] <Corey> Drew|: Channels full of people really, really don't care what you're listening to.
[03:22] <Jaded> haha
[03:22] <Jaded> thanks ITguy
[03:23] <Drew|> Corey, yeah but they can deal with it
[03:23] <Jaded> didn't see you in chat when I was asking questions ;p
[03:23] <Corey> Drew|: Such things are bannable here. :-)
[03:23] <Drew|> Good thing I do not idle here
[03:23] <Drew|> :-)
[03:23] <cromag> Im trying to install ubuntu 11.04 on the side of a pre-installed windows 7. I get Bootloader install failed wgen grub wants to install. Where do i go from here ?
[03:23] <thatITguy> im just being passive tonight :)
[03:23] <Cuchulainn> cryptopsy, nothing...but ran just xev...got some text output in term, and a gui 'event tester', both of which seem to record w/o end?
[03:23] <Logan_> Drew|: http://xchat.org/cgi-bin/search.pl?str=vlc&cat=0&Submit=Search
[03:23] <IdleOne> Drew|: xchat.org has a tone of scripts
[03:24] <Logan_> Drew|: heh, one's called "VLC XChat spam 0.1"
[03:24] <hdon> hi all :) where does brasero store the disc image before burning to disc?
[03:24] <Drew|> fantastic, thanks Logan_ and IdleOne
[03:24] <thatITguy> hahaha logan
[03:24] <nikhil_> hdon, /tmp
[03:24] <zelrik> is there anything wrong with this: http://pastebin.com/3irN8rJP ?
[03:24] <hdon> nikhil_, thanks... i just realized though i don't think i used brasero. i used nautilus
[03:24] <hdon> where does nautilus do it?
[03:25] <escott> hdon, /tmp most likely
[03:25] <nit-wit> cromag, run this script and pastebin the text. Can be run from a Live Ubuntu cd.  http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[03:25] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: use the graphical user interface in the menu to search for xev
[03:25] <cryptopsy> i don't remember what it's called
[03:25] <cromag> nit-wit: when would i do that ?
[03:26] <hdon> i'm getting this error every time telling me there isn't enough space. but this isn't the error i got before, where i solved the problem by splitting up my ambition for one DVD into two DVDs. now it creates the disk image, then ejects the disk, and tells me there wasn't enough space, so i was thinkin gmaybe it was talking about creating the image on my hdd
[03:26] <nit-wit> cromag, it is a script that generates a text file of your setup a what is where it saves the 1000, questions.
[03:26] <nikhil_> hdon, how did you partition your harddrive?
[03:26] <cromag> nit-wit: i mean, im "stuck" in the install right now. do i cuntinue without bootloader ?
[03:27] <nikhil_> hdon, did you use ubuntu's default scheme? if so, how much free space do you have?
[03:27] <escott> cromag, you can let the install keep going (the bootloader will fail) and then fix it afterwards with !grub
[03:27] <escott> !grub | cromag
[03:27] <hdon> nikhil_, encrypted homes, swap, and root
[03:28] <thatITguy> hdon, so how large are the files and how much disk space is free on your primary partition?
[03:28] <cromag> ok, i'll hit the conitinue without bootloader.
[03:28] <hdon> mount|grep /tmp # doesn't seems to suggest /tmp is on my / filesystem
[03:28] <nikhil_> hdon, navigate to "/" and look at the bottom of nautilus. it will tell you free space
[03:28] <Cuchulainn> cryptopsy, xev (and possibly dmesg) seems to only log within session...my problem is happening at login, but not inside session?
[03:28] <hdon> thatITguy, the free space on / is fairly close to the size of the image i need to create3
[03:28] <nit-wit> cromag, without knowing more; I'm trying to get the appropriate information so we actually fix it.
[03:28] <cryptopsy> maco: you spin me right round baby right round ...
[03:29] <nikhil_> hdon, if that is less than the size of the dvd you want to burn, you might have a problem
[03:29] <hdon> thatITguy, nikhil_: brasero seems to have no problem doing the operation, only nautilus. using brasero works.
[03:29] <cromag> nit-wit: i know, and want you to have it, can i do this from the install menu ? other wise i need to get to a point where it¨s possible
[03:29] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: i figured we can check what's going on at runtime
[03:29] <thatITguy> so are you trying to save it as an .iso, or are you burning an .iso to DVDs?
[03:29] <nikhil_> hdon, sorry mate, can't help you now. Gotta get ready for the day :)
[03:29] <IdleOne> cryptopsy: stop harassing the channel users.
[03:29] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: gotta start somewhere
[03:30] <nit-wit> cromag, read the link.
[03:30] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: also i'm sorry if i've harrassed you in any way
[03:30] <Cuchulainn> cryptopsy, oh...ok..not at all...just trying to get my bearings...appreciate the help..
[03:30] <cryptopsy> like a babe in the woods ...
[03:30] <maco> cryptopsy: he's referring to you being exceedingly CREEPY toward me
[03:30] <escott> cromag, theoretically you could ctrl-alt-f1 to a console and do some of the things listed in !grub while the install is going on
[03:30] <cryptopsy> maco: what do you mean? there's /ignore
[03:30] <cryptopsy> i thought you didn't mind
[03:30] <hdon> nikhil_, thanks :) have a good day
[03:30] <gryffus> hi folks... i am new to ubuntu and trying to build a patched kernel module on Ubuntu 10.4... so i installed kernel source and build deps with apt-get, patched the sources in /usr/src/linux and now what is the proper way to rebuild only the patched parts? Thanks much...
[03:30] <maco> cryptopsy: if i didnt mind i wouldnt have kicked you
[03:31] <_Lucifer> I have a multiboot liveusb set up. the liveusb aspects (I use it for other stuff too) are getting to be about the size of a DVD. is there an easy way to convert it to a bootable dvd?
[03:31] <Cuchulainn> maco, crypstopsy..so what's going on now?
[03:31] <cromag> nit-wit: so you suggest i cancel the installation, and boot into the livecd, correct ?
[03:31] <guampa> when you add an icon to the messaging indicator in /usr/share/indicators/messages , is there some way to control the order the order they appear in the menu?
[03:31] <thatITguy> hdon, so are you burning an iso to DVD or writing files to an iso?
[03:32] <maco> Cuchulainn: turns out making comments about others' bodies doesn't count as tech support, so he's gone
[03:32] <nit-wit> cromag, what is the error you getting again and where.
[03:32] <balt11t> my laptop fn keys do not work for brightness, neither does power management, nor the widget .
[03:32] <thatITguy> balt, system specs?
[03:32] <cromag> nit-wit: during installation of 1104 on the side of windows 7, grub wont install on sda5, the linux partition.
[03:32] <_Lucifer> balt11t, what type of laptop is it?
[03:33] <balt11t> EEE Pc
[03:33] <cromag> oh wait, this might like to be on the windows partition ?
[03:33] <Cuchulainn> maco, thanks, though 'babe in the woods' is an expression referring to a state of innocence and niavete...i didn't catch the comment...
[03:33] <thatITguy> balt, can you give us a version of ubuntu?
[03:33] <nit-wit> cromag, normally it should go to sda are you trying to run easybcd?
[03:33] <escott> balt11t, is there a backlight level in /sys/class/backlight
[03:34] <balt11t> 11.04
[03:34] <Cuchulainn> maco, maybe i'm being inappropriate, and just too dense to realize...(wouldn't be the first time)?
[03:34] <maco> Cuchulainn: it started further in backscroll. see PM for log
[03:34] <balt11t> escott, should I cd there?
[03:34] <cromag> nit-wit: no i dont think so, just the ubuntu 32bit install/try cd
[03:34] <balt11t> then ls?
[03:35] <_Lucifer> quit
[03:35] <escott> balt11t, sure (its actually in a subdirectory of backlight)
[03:35] <nit-wit> cromag, so at the custom install partitioning setup you chose sda5 for grub, t should be sda which is the master boot record, MBR.
[03:35] <escott> balt11t, mine is /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness
[03:35] <nit-wit> *it should be
[03:35] <centHOGG> fail
[03:36] <courtney_> i upgrade to 11.04 and my integrated webcam stopped working (it can't find the folder /dev/video0), could someone please help?
[03:36] <lee__> what's the meaning of "$?==1" in bash
[03:36] <anastasis> Please assist... When I ping or traceroute anything all i get back are asterisks. ***.  Firewall is off. Ubuntu 11.04 cabled straight into eth0. Is it my ISP blocking...something to do with port forwarding on router??
[03:36] <balt11t> escott, actual_brightness brightness and max_brightness
[03:36] <centHOGG> lesson 1 don't upgrade
[03:37] <escott> lee__, the last programs exit code (usually 0 is success)
[03:37] <courtney_> centHOGG: it updated and broke first
[03:37] <cromag> nit-wit: i need to be sure; you want me to choose sda and no numbers ?
[03:37] <kiichiro> Hi
[03:37] <blackshirt> hi kiichiro
[03:37] <escott> balt11t, ok that was just to check your kernel knows the backlight exists. you should be able to cat ## > /sys/class/.../brightness where ## is some value to change the brightness level (be careful with the values you test)
[03:38] <nit-wit> cromag, that is correct I'm asuming you don't have a gpt or raid set up here as well.
[03:38] <escott> balt11t, rather echo ##
[03:38] <cromag> nit-wit: correct.
[03:38] <nit-wit> cromag, yeah just sda is where grub goes.;)
[03:38] <balt11t> escott, why don't the fn keys work?
[03:38] <escott> balt11t, that i don't know. just suggesting that you check that the kernel is able to change the brightness level
[03:39] <cromag> nit-wit: ok, it seems the installation process has stopped now, cant chooses any of the options now :) - or i can choose but pressing OK doesnt do anything
[03:39] <escott> courtney_, in what applications?
[03:39] <anastasis> hello
[03:40] <escott> courtney_, nevermind if /dev/video0 doesn't exist nothing should work
[03:40] <courtney_> escott: i've tried with cheese and in the multimedia systems selector under system > admin
[03:40] <courtney_> i mean sys > pref
[03:41] <balt11t> permission denied
[03:41] <escott> balt11t, sudo -i first
,what's the last programes exit?
[03:41] <nit-wit> cromag, in the partitioning section the custom install did you set the mount of the sda5 as /
[03:41] <balt11t> escott, permission denied
[03:41] <cromag> i asked it to be "along side windows 7"
[03:42] <escott> balt11t, first line "sudo -i [ENTER]" it will ask for the password, then you get a root shell. then echo ## >brightness
[03:42] <cromag> but right now i cant even cancel the installation process nit-wit
[03:42] <nit-wit> cromag, that is risky, do you know how many partitons are there already
[03:42] <TheLifelessOne> Hey, is there an apt-get command to only get the required packages, and ignore the suggested ones?
[03:42] <anastasis> Please assist... When I ping or traceroute anything all i get back are asterisks. ***.  Firewall is off. Ubuntu 11.04 cabled straight into eth0. Is it my ISP blocking...something to do with port forwarding on router??
[03:42] <cromag> nit-wit: let me try reboot, check the partitions and get back. This installation has gone cold.
[03:43] <balt11t> it dimmed
[03:43] <nit-wit> cromag, sounds correct
[03:43] <escott> courtney_, do you know what kind of camera this is? lsusb to find it
[03:44] <cromag> nit-wit: ill get the partitions done manually instead then.
[03:44] <escott> balt11t, well your backlight works then... perhaps the keyboard is sending strange keysyms the kernel doesn't recognize... all that is a bit beyond me
[03:44] <balt11t> escott, weird, 13 is dark, but 12 is bright
[03:45] <billybigrigger> balt11t, you said eee pc yeah?
[03:45] <nit-wit> cromag, your best served letting W7 partition itself leaving unallocated for Ubuntu, but knowing the partition limitations in types and amounts.
[03:45] <escott> lee__, if a program fails like rm file_that_doesnt_exist then $? =1 will be different than after it succeeds (touch foo; rm foo; echo $? = 0)
[03:46] <balt11t> billybigrigger, yeah, and in 10.10, actually it worked in 11.04 too, but i had to reinstall ubuntu
[03:46] <cromag> nit-wit: im not sure i understood that, im a dane. what i have is a pre defined windows 7 part. on 300g, and an unallocated 200g space.
[03:47] <courtney_> escott: i'm not sure which one it is...
[03:47] <cromag> nit-wit: but now; partition window.
[03:47] <escott> !paste | court_jester
[03:47] <nit-wit> cromag, your sure it is just one W7 partition, no boot partition, or recovery as well.
[03:47] <escott> !paste | courtney_
[03:48] <lee__> escott,I see,Thank you !~
[03:48] <balt11t> billybigrigger, then after the reinstall it stopped
[03:48] <cromag> nit-wit: sorry, correct, a 100meg recovery something as well
[03:48] <billybigrigger> balt11t, that's weird
,I see,Thank you ~
[03:48] <Jaded> question, I'm trying to save jpgs using Epiphany browser, but they keep coming out as junk 19KB files
[03:48] <escott> lee__, np
[03:48] <cromag> nit-wit: recovery in sda1, win7 in sda2
[03:48] <Jaded> firefox and opera can save them fine
[03:48] <balt11t> billybigrigger, any ideas then?
[03:49] <billybigrigger> balt11t, is google any help? there are quite a few eee ubuntu users out there...never heard of something like that happening on a re-format though
[03:49] <billybigrigger> balt11t, was 10.10 to 11.04 an upgrade?
[03:49] <courtney_> escott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/628257/
[03:49] <escott> Jaded, what does "file" think they are
[03:49] <cromag> nit-wit: removing the prev. ubuntu/swaps
[03:49] <billybigrigger> maybe there's a change in an acpi setting somewhere in 11.04 that breaks it?
[03:49] <billybigrigger> that would explain your breakage in a fresh install of 11.04
[03:49] <balt11t> billybigrigger, yeah, it was an upgrade than a reinstall. and google is no help
[03:50] <billybigrigger> boooo
[03:50] <billybigrigger> google is NOT your friend!
[03:50] <billybigrigger> :P hehe
[03:50] <balt11t> oh wait
[03:50] <escott> courtney_, there is no camera there unless it is 0db0:3801 but i think that is bluetooth. this is an integrated camera?
[03:50] <balt11t> Shoot, hmm,
[03:51] <balt11t> billybigrigger, I lied, and got all my months confused, haha. I reinstalled 10.10, then upgraded to 11.04.
[03:51] <courtney_> escott: yes that was everything from lsusb, i don't think it detects it at all
[03:51] <balt11t> billybigrigger, it never worked in 11.04
[03:51] <nit-wit> cromag, on any single HD you can have at the most 4 primary partitions, or 3 primaries, and a extended which can hold logical partitions. The primary is needed for the W7 main boot OS, Ubuntu will run in logicals with no problem.
[03:51] <billybigrigger> balt11t, ahhh
[03:51] <billybigrigger> still i'm not helping
[03:51] <escott> courtney_, maybe its not usb (which is odd but possible) try lspci
[03:52] <escott> courtney_, you could also try lshw
[03:52] <billybigrigger> im mean i'm no help...im not an eee user bud :(
[03:52] <balt11t> billybigrigger, March and April ran together in my mind lol
[03:52] <nit-wit> cromag, YOu probably know this it just helps to mention it
[03:52] <escott> courtney_, what model is this system
[03:52] <cromag> nit-wit: well, i never am sure what to pick during dualboot installs
[03:53] <courtney_> escott: uh zareason
[03:53] <cromag> nit-wit: primary logical, beginning end...
[03:53] <courtney_> escott: i can't find a camera in either of those
[03:53] <nit-wit> cromag, as for install it is best to custom install for safety, or have everything cloned.
[03:56] <nit-wit> cromag, here is a link that might helped this is a very good site. http://members.iinet.net.au/~herman546/p23.html
[03:56] <error_404__> hello, umm is the latest version of Virtualbox fixed from its problems with USB?
[03:56] <excedere> error_404__, what usb issues?
[03:57] <gryffus> in case if anyone will find that it is "make M=path/to/module"
[03:57] <wizard1> hey guys, i am having trouble changing id3 tags on my music in ubuntu, i can't edit the tags with either EasyTag or Picard(MusicBrainz), they are stored on an NTFS drive which i am beginning to wonder has any effect on it (i ripped some tracks in ubuntu to the same drive and can't change them either).  and i did check, i have rw access to the files.  any ideas?
[03:58] <error_404__> excedere: it happened in 4.0.6 with something about the usb interface...
[03:58] <escott> courtney_, well val aurora apparently like zareason so thats a plus. not sure what the deal with your camera is. you might try emailing them, or booting an older livecd that does work and seeing if you can identify the camera model in it
[03:58] <cromag> nit-wit: thanks. - lets see how it goes :)
[03:59] <excedere> error_404__, USB is intentionally limited in the free version.. not sure if your issues are tied to that but I've never had an issue with mine
[03:59] <mrdeb> wow
[03:59] <mrdeb> i just felt dizzy
[04:00] <cromag> nit-wit: if i fail, ill try again tomorrow :)
[04:00] <escott> wizard1, shouldnt be. have you tried running easytag from the command line and seeing what errors you get in the terminal window
[04:00] <nit-wit> error_404__, there is a down loadable for usb....etc   VirtualBox 4.0.8 Oracle VM VirtualBox Extension Pack
[04:00] <nit-wit> cromag, goodluck
[04:00] <cromag> thanks
[04:00] <wizard1> escott: good idea, sorry for not trying that
[04:00] <escott> wizard1, nothing to be sorry about.
[04:01] <error_404__> nit-wit: ill try it out, its just my ISP has a 40gb monthly cap and i do not want to go over it :b
[04:01] <courtney_> escott: it says its an intel webcam when i look up my computer online
[04:01] <escott> courtney_, didn't know intel even made webcams
[04:02] <error_404__> nit-wit: plus ill use it to install ubuntu on it with the GNOME-Team PPA to test out GNOME 3
[04:02] <escott> courtney_, can you tell if it is supposed to be usb or what
[04:03] <wizard1> escott: IOError: [Errno 95] Operation not supported
[04:05] <courtney_> escott: well if it used to work with gstreamer, does that mean that it would be usb?
[04:06] <courtney_> escott: or am i just completely wrong
[04:06] <escott> courtney_, doesn't mean much that it used to work with gstreamer. could be anything really. most webcams are usb (its a bus that is reasonably widely available and has the necessary throughput, and wasting a pci slot is unnecessary)
[04:07] <escott> wizard1, sure sounds like something related to ntfs. like an fseek or some other function call that might be used to insert data into the middle of a larger file is not supported. not sure what you can do about it though
[04:07] <escott> wizard1, you could copy the file out to the ext4 partition, modify it there, and then put it back
[04:08] <no-name-> which is the best version of ubuntu in your opinion?
[04:08] <courtney_> escott: well it's this computer if that helps at all > http://zareason.com/shop/Alto-1454.html
[04:08] <wizard1> escott: yeah ill check it out
[04:09] <escott> courtney_, yeah it doesn't really say enough about the hardware. i would (a) see if it works after a complete shutdown (and wait 5 seconds before rebooting), (b) if you can determine the type and driver that used to work, (c) email zareason/try their forums
[04:09] <escott> courtney_, without being able to identify the device its hard to make any progress
[04:10] <courtney_> escott: okay thanks ^^
[04:12] <technoskald> ##re
[04:12] <hanhua> hello
[04:12] <HackThePlanet> what is the ubuntu dev channel?
[04:12] <hanhua> 这里是？
[04:13] <escott> !cn | hanhua
[04:13] <blackshirt> hanhua: hello
[04:13] <hanhua> 你好
[04:13] <WarOp> I'm trying to update some of the packages on my system but wont let me due to untrusted sources, Which I'm using medibuntu repository
[04:14] <wizard1> escott: yeah looks like an ntfs problem, from ext4 it could change the files and move them to the ntfs, it just looks like it can't modify files stored in ntfs
[04:14] <hanhua> yeah
[04:14] <escott> wizard1, it would be interesting to identify what syscall is failing and either report it to easytag or ntfs-3g
[04:15] <wizard1> escott: any reason python would have different ntfs support when ubuntu seems to handle ntfs well enough
[04:15] <wizard1> escott: does ntfs-3g already run on ubuntu?
[04:16] <cromag> nit-wit: success - just booted into ubuntu and afterwards windows. Thanks for your help :)
[04:16] <cromag> sleeep.... now---
[04:16] <escott> wizard1, i think its the way the application is handling the file. its probably trying to write specific bytes or tell the kernel to insert bytes into the middle of the file (and thus avoiding reading the rest of the file and rewriting)
[04:16] <escott> wizard1, you are using ntfs-3g
[04:16] <nit-wit> cromag, cool.;)
[04:17] <tang>  没有中文的吗？
[04:17] <WarOp> Is there a way to update packages on system with having unauthenticated  Sources
[04:17] <escott> !cn | tang
[04:17] <tang> 谢谢
[04:17] <escott> !ko | tang
[04:18] <tang> 在哪个位置输入？
[04:18] <wizard1> escott: yeah that sounds like what is happening, any ideas where to find error report to submit?  sounds like ntfs-3g isn't responsible, but maybe they'd be interested in creating an interface since it is happening on both Amarok, EasyTag, and Picard
[04:18] <NoqturnalX> Why is there no /etc/X11/xorg.conf in Ubuntu? Where does Xorg get it's config?
[04:18] <escott> !jp | tang sorry im guessing
[04:18] <escott> NoqturnalX, autoconfig since about 2 years ago
[04:19] <escott> wizard1, I would start by stracing or gdb'ing the program to figure out what syscall it is that is failing
[04:19] <NoqturnalX> how does that work? I'm trying to enable sound through my hdmi port
[04:19] <escott> NoqturnalX, well thats tricky, but unrelated to xorg
[04:19] <wizard1> escott: alright ill look into it
[04:19] <NoqturnalX> I have a ATI HD Radeon 2600 XT w/ Dual DVI ports and use a HDMI adapter to go to a TV
[04:19] <NoqturnalX> What do I need to learn to do then to figure this out?
[04:20] <escott> NoqturnalX, you have to (a) select the hdmi sound output in pulseaudio (b) pray... at least from what I have gathered from seeing others
[04:21] <jimmie> Im not sure if anyone else uses Deluge, but does it always have to re-check files after a reboot, or is there a way to turn that off?
[04:21] <escott> wizard1, one would think that the fuse (user space fs) should support all syscalls, but maybe these programs are assuming they can use some special linux only ioctl or syscall not supported elsewhere, in which case they should fall back to reading and rewriting the whole file
[04:21] <NoqturnalX> I think just by default it checks files, I've never looked into that though
[04:21] <NoqturnalX> I don't see the harm of deluge checking files on launch tho, but i'll check to see if there's a option to disable it
[04:22] <jimmie> Noqturnal: If it has to check multiple 50gb files
[04:22] <jimmie> Its a pain.
[04:22] <NoqturnalX> I hear ya there lol
[04:22] <darkgod> hola gente
[04:22] <jimmie> Yeah I have like 400gb of stuff im actively seeding
[04:23] <darkgod> alguien que hable español?
[04:23] <jimmie> So its a nightmare
[04:23] <escott> !es | darkgod
[04:23] <darkgod> gracias gracias
[04:23] <escott> darkgod, de nada
[04:25] <NoqturnalX> I didn't see a option in prefs, But to be honest i'm not sure if it's specific to deluge or the torrent protocol
[04:25] <NoqturnalX> I think it checks so it can update the trackers, but im not sure sounds worthy of looking deeper into
[04:25] <escott> NoqturnalX, it is technically part of the protocol, but its a bit obnoxious to not trust the system
[04:26] <jimmie> Hmm.
[04:26] <NoqturnalX> Yea I figured it might be part of the protocol itself lol
[04:27] <escott> NoqturnalX, if it didn't check the files then the user could modify the files and it would start sending bad blocks out thus DoS the other users
[04:27] <NoqturnalX> I got a seedbox for such things that never turns off or goes down so I don't really worry bout that stuff
[04:27] <escott> that said if i wanted to DoS the other users I would write my own client to do exactly that
[04:27] <NoqturnalX> Yea I can see reasons why it's part of the protocol.
[04:28] <jimmie> It is mildly tedious though
[04:28] <Cuervo> I am using nestopia and having issues with the screen sort of wrapping around at the top and the bottom when I move in some games. I understand that this was how the Nes behaved and that TV's clipped that part, so is there a way to clip the top and bottom?
[04:28] <escott> jimmie, the only thing I can to check is the timestamps, just in case your timestamps are presenting it as modified after the last time the program closed
[04:28] <jimmie> Cuervo: A bit of masking tape?
[04:28] <jimmie> Ah, will do escott. Cheers.
[04:28] <NoqturnalX> There's actually been a few times where I've downloaded a new Linux distro via torrent and it say's it's complete but if I do a recheck it always found a corrupted piece lol
[04:28] <jimmie> Thanks to you NoqturnalX as well
[04:29] <NoqturnalX> No prob, I like Deluge
[04:29] <NoqturnalX> the other client I used to use was the older versions of Azureus
[04:29] <Cuervo> jimmie: Heh, I would like to avoid having to remove tape from my monitor every time I stopped playing
[04:29] <jimmie> ;)
[04:30] <k_sze> Does anybody know how to setup SLIP in Ubuntu?
[04:31] <NoqturnalX> So I read researching my HDMI problem that by default the ati driver compiles with audio disabled. Is there a way to turn it on? I think i'm using the xserver-xorg-video-ati driver
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[04:31] <escott> !botattack
[04:31] <NoqturnalX> I hate that crap
[04:31] <Nobgul-BNC> >_<
[04:31] <escott> NoqturnalX, i thought it was a different driver
[04:31] <djmaster> can any one help me im runing jolicloud and i cant seam to find a hardware tool to enable my wireless help?
[04:32] <NoqturnalX> That should have died with MySpace
[04:32] <Nobgul-BNC> What would be the best way to setup vpn on the newest ubuntu server?
[04:32] <escott> !vpn
[04:32] <NoqturnalX> Well I heard I should use xserver-xorg-video-radeon but when I tried that it didn't work as well as the driver i'm using now
[04:32] <Nobgul-BNC> cheers escott
[04:32] <jiohdi> what is SASL?
[04:32] <escott> jiohdi, some variant of SSL. ignore it
[04:33] <NoqturnalX> Sh*** As* Secure LInk???
[04:33] <zxwf> :)
[04:33] <jiohdi> why ignore it?
[04:33] <NoqturnalX> I just made that up
[04:33] <NoqturnalX> cause it was spam
[04:33] <escott> !botattack | jiohdi
[04:33] <Nobgul-BNC> Simple Authentication and Security Layer
[04:33] <Nobgul-BNC> is what it stands for.
[04:34] <NoqturnalX> No security is simple :P Otherwise it's not very secure is it?
[04:34] <Nobgul-BNC> lol
[04:34] <NoqturnalX> So i'm going back with my original made up "Sh*t A*s Security Link" :D
[04:34] <balleyne> Ubuntu keeps prompting me to install proprietary drivers for my HP printer every time I log in, but I've already got it installed and working with free drivers. How can I turn this off? Is there some HP proprietary printing package I can uninstall?
[04:35] <ZykoticK9> balleyne, are you serious?  oh man, that's a new low for Ubuntu
[04:35] <escott> balleyne, you could uninstall jockey
[04:35] <centHOGG> lower than twitter
[04:36] <balleyne> ZykoticK9: dead serious... not just prompting me either, but bringing up a gksudo dialog and asking me for my admin password all ready to go!
[04:36] <Nobgul-BNC> lol
[04:37] <ZykoticK9> balleyne, i think you must has installed something for that to happen.  jockey isn't usually that "in your face"
[04:37] <NoqturnalX> how can you tell which driver your using from terminal?
[04:37] <NoqturnalX> for video
[04:37] <escott> ZykoticK9, i think it is for hot-plug devices
[04:37] <NoqturnalX> I wanna see if i'm using xserver-xorg-video-ati
[04:37] <ZykoticK9> escott, wow - that's all i have to say ;)  thanks.
[04:37] <escott> NoqturnalX, combination of glxinfo, lsmod
[04:37] <centHOGG> lsmod grep
[04:38] <escott> ZykoticK9, its kinda nice for random printers you might find in a lab
[04:38] <ZykoticK9> NoqturnalX, 2 options: 1 - "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log" or 2 - "lspci -vnvn" find the VGA section and 'kernel driver in use' line.
[04:39] <Nobgul-BNC> The terminal banner on ssh login has some information about server useage as well as  updates. how to i disable that i juust want to use the reg /etc/motd file
[04:39] <balleyne> escott: thanks, I'll take a look
[04:39] <escott> Nobgul-BNC, check your /etc/ssh/ config
[04:39] <balleyne> ZykoticK9: quite possible... trying to figure out exactly what it is that's popping up. hmm..
[04:40] <ZykoticK9> balleyne, escott suggested it could be from hot-plug
[04:40] <escott> balleyne, if you wanted to be surgical there is probably some udev rule you can tweak
[04:41] <Nobgul-BNC> escott, the only thing i see that is close to the banner is #Banner /etc/issue.net
[04:41] <escott> balleyne, but if jockey were doing that to me I would just chmod -x it :)
[04:41] <balleyne> ZykoticK9, escott: hmm, yeah, does seem like a hot-plug type thing, I believe it's on log in, or when I turn the printer from off to on while logged in
[04:42] <balleyne> escott: hahaha it may well come to that... it's a family room computer, so I'm not logging in super often, but still pretty annoying
[04:43] <Nobgul-BNC> yer there is nothing in there escott.
[04:43] <escott> Nobgul-BNC, could it be in /etc/profile?
[04:44] <Nobgul-BNC> Well when i edit the banner file /etc/motd its already got the information in there. So i guess there is something that fills that file at set times weither its at login or on a cron.
[04:44] <escott> Nobgul-BNC, i don't have the server openssh-server so  have no such banner... not sure why it would be different on desktop though
[04:44] <Nobgul-BNC> Not sure escott
[04:45] <NoqturnalX> hmm.... So I'm not using Ubuntu exactly but a distro built off Ubuntu (backtrack) and it's running KDE 4, in KMIX I see 2 tabs for 2 different sound cards. I want to use the HDMI one which shows up as IEC958 but there's no volume slider there. I type in arecord -l and only get the onboard card ALC888 Analog
[04:45] <Nobgul-BNC> It is just annoying because i would like to set my own banner for customers ie: type get egg to install blah blah. Unless I can make the system read a text file after each login?
[04:46] <bodiecon> heading out of town and trying to configure remote desktop.  everything works but i still have to hit accept on desktop for session to begin.  i have enabled UPnP on router but still can't login.  is there a way around this?  what am i missing?
[04:46] <Nobgul-BNC> bodiecon, i had the same issue. I ended up using vncserver
[04:47] <quiescens> Nobgul-BNC: motd stuff is most likely generated by the files in /etc/update-motd.d
[04:47] <Nobgul-BNC> took about 3 mins to setup and get running
[04:47] <Nobgul-BNC> quiescens, I will check that now thank you
[04:47] <bodiecon> Nobgul-BNC: hmm.  i'll look into that.
[04:48] <Nobgul-BNC> It runs pretty good. I am happy with it. Allows me to have it running on my dedicated and login to a dekstop for diff things
[04:49] <Nobgul-BNC> quiescens, those are deff the files that are populating the motd. If i just delete them will something bad happen?
[04:49] <escott> Nobgul-BNC, better practice to chmod -x them, but check if cron is running them
[04:50] <Nobgul-BNC> nevermind seems like i will just add a new script there and let it read a file.
[04:50] <Nobgul-BNC> I think cat filename would work
[04:50] <Nobgul-BNC> Ill figure it out but atleast i found the files i need to play with
[04:51] <bodiecon> Nobgul-BNC: i just want to be able to grab files and throw into dropbox or something if i need it while i'm gone
[04:51] <bodiecon> thanks
[04:51] <escott> bodiecon, if all you need is file access try ssh
[04:51] <Nobgul-BNC> No worries. you could always ssh in as well. I have my dropbox setup for the dir. I just ftp the files into the incomming dir then cp them over
[04:52] <toad`> cp is illegal
[04:52] <toad`> im telling
[04:52] <bodiecon> escott: yeah i looked at that but being new to linux i'm still trying to learn the command line stuff.  vnc will be much easier for now.
[04:53] <Nobgul-BNC> lol
[04:53] <escott> bodiecon, ill bet you spend more time setting up vnc than it would take to learn the 3 cli commands you need :)
[04:53] <bodiecon> escott:  you might be right!!!! lol!
[04:54] <lagbolt> hello.  i have a usb webcam that uses the ov519 module.  it works on my laptop but on desktop i get a probe error -22.  the two machines are both running 64bit 11.04, same kern. both are intel based.  any ideas?
[04:54] <escott> bodiecon, ssh can also provide sftp which you could use a gui from
[04:56] <bodiecon> escott: well then let me look in to that as well.  i've installed securessh already
[04:56] <Nobgul-BNC> quiescens, escott, thank you my motd is finally working
[04:57] <tripelb> I made my icon text bigger but now it's all big and slim so that I only get a few letters per line. where do I go to make the icons wider.
[04:57] <escott> bodiecon, just apt-get install openssh-server; then try to sftp localhost. put in your password and ls. you should see your home directory
[04:57] <escott> bodiecon, if that works then you can try using fireftp or some other gui
[04:58] <Nobgul-BNC> winscp is also nice.
[04:58] <Nobgul-BNC> if you using a winblows box
[04:58] <bodiecon> escott: looking into it now.  thanks
[04:58] <centHOGG> xp!
[04:58] <GTRsdk> on Natty, after the computer shows the BIOS screen it says out of range. Is there a way to fix that?
[04:59] <escott> GTRsdk, /etc/default/grub will allow you to set a smaller video range
[04:59] <escott> GTRsdk, run update-grub afterwards
[04:59] <pissedkid> fucking peice of horsepissing crap shit asshole jizz face Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit!
[04:59] <Nobgul-BNC> GTRsdk, I had that issue I think it was a Graphics issue
[04:59] <pissedkid> sister fucking whore
[04:59] <Nobgul-BNC> woah calm down
[04:59] <pissedkid> I AM PISSED!
[04:59] <centHOGG> first time ubuntu?
[05:00] <pissedkid> FUCK
[05:00] <zek152`> calm down
[05:00] <GTRsdk> !ops pissedkid is using fowl language
[05:00] <Raikia> pissedkid: Watch your language or be banned from this channel
[05:00] <pissedkid> fuck u bitch
[05:00] <GTRsdk> !ops | pissedkid is using fowl language
[05:00] <pissedkid> Slug Moses Permium User      Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,102  ....................../´¯/)  ....................,/¯../  .................../..../  ............./´¯/'...'/´¯¯`·¸  ........../'/.../..../......./¨¯\  ........('(...´...´.... ¯~/'...')  .........\.................'...../  ..........''...\.......... _.·´  ............\..............(  ..............\.............\...
[05:01] <SubCool> can someone help with flash, i was watching anime and it crashed. Now it wont load at all. I have uninstalled it, and reinstalled via Software manager, i have uninstalled and reinstalled FLAHS-aid for firefox.
[05:01] <Nobgul-BNC> Ignore ftw
[05:01] <linux_probe> seems to me one moron cussing, isn't much of an emergency :)
[05:01] <pissedkid> ashole cunt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!dick ballsaced bitch
[05:01] <zek152`> mods just ban him
[05:01] <SubCool> im with him
[05:01] <Nobgul-BNC> Not really when you can ignore.
[05:01] <balleyne> ZykoticK9, escott: fixed it -- uninstalled hplip. I may have installed that when trying to find the right driver, but I'd got the printer working with foo2xqx instead. With hplip uninstalled, no longer prompted for installation every the I log in / connect the print. Finally!
[05:01] <SubCool> what his issue?
[05:01] <pissedkid> I'm pissed for good reasons ok
[05:02] <centHOGG> tourettes
[05:02] <SubCool> usually we get mad.. when people dont help
[05:02] <Nobgul-BNC> He's mad at life?
[05:02] <SubCool> so am i
[05:02] <pissedkid> at my mom
[05:02] <benzaldehyde> you know what they say, if you cant beat'em, join'em
[05:02] <linux_probe>  /ignore pissedkid all = the easiest fix
[05:02] <ZykoticK9> balleyne, nice!  glad you fixed it.
[05:02]  * SubCool hates his mom
[05:02] <pissedkid> yesterday I was eating sweets she yeleld at me to stop me eating because it's bad for my health today she told me to eat sweets I was like fuck no and she is like it's ur harm then not my problem I was like WTF bitch
[05:02]  * Raikia hates SubCool's mom too
[05:02] <pissedkid> I HATE MY MOM!
[05:02] <pissedkid> sorry u guys
[05:02] <Flannel> pissedkid: please mind your language.
[05:03] <pissedkid> won't swear
[05:03] <SubCool> thats just irrational
[05:03] <Raikia> pissedkid: You just made my intelligence go down a little
[05:03] <SubCool> i dont think that something to be irate about-
[05:03] <pissedkid> I was just pisssed
[05:03] <SubCool> i dont eat candy though
[05:03] <pissedkid> yes it is
[05:03] <SubCool> i hear ya- my mom does a lot worse
[05:03] <pissedkid> and I don't have anger amanagement problems
[05:03] <wildgoose> !topic
[05:03] <SubCool> i do
[05:03] <SubCool> lol
[05:03] <GTRsdk> pissedkid, /join #ubuntu-offtopic since this is a support channel for Ubuntu.
[05:04] <tripelb> Is this #ubuntu? I am seeing chat.  go thee to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:04] <TheLifelessOne> Hi, I have a complicated question. Is it possible to move to Ubuntu from a debian-based installation?
[05:04] <tripelb> I made my icon text bigger but now it's all big and slim so that I only get a few letters per line. where do I go to make the icons wider.
[05:04] <benzaldehyde> pissedkid your body turns everything into ATP which is adenosine triphosphate.. before that it turns it into glucose which sugar.. eat whatever u want
[05:04] <SubCool> TheLifelessOne, Headache
[05:04] <tripelb> go away chatters
[05:04] <TheLifelessOne> SubCool, no other option for me. I haven't any discs I can burn to. :/
[05:04] <SubCool> im waiting on help too
[05:05] <benzaldehyde> the sugar you have to stay away from is the complex carbohydrates, polysaccharides
[05:05] <tripelb> TheLifelessOne, I'm no expert but you cant do that. You have to install ubuntu on it's own partition.
[05:05] <Flannel> benzaldehyde: Your body doesn't turn it into ATP, and I'd be happy to explain further in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[05:05] <tripelb> !op
[05:05] <TheLifelessOne> tripelb, really? :/
[05:05] <benzaldehyde> flannel stfu it does
[05:05] <SubCool> ya seriously?
[05:05]  * wildgoose igoners Flannel, benzaldehyde, pissedkid 
[05:05] <escott> TheLifelessOne, theoretically, but lots of things are different. its certainly not supported
[05:05]  * SubCool tripelb is a baby
[05:06] <benzaldehyde> who the hell did that and why
[05:06] <SubCool> hey escott, thanks for the help before..
[05:06] <tripelb> TheLifelessOne, YOu cant even go from ubuntu to ubuntu without doing it one udate at a time.
[05:06] <Flannel> SubCool: Please take offtopic chat to #ubuntu-offtopic.  You can be in more than one channel at a time.
[05:06] <SubCool> i wasnt able to apply the script because i walked away. But- i knew where to find it.
[05:06] <TheLifelessOne> tripelib, well I've got time, but no discs I can burn to. :/
[05:06] <tripelb> and TheLifelessOne it's a good idea because if it doesnt work you still have the working debian partition to use.
[05:06] <crephoto> i have a question about packaging... would this be the place to ask it?
[05:06] <SubCool> Flannel, yes i can- but im not going to.
[05:06] <balleyne> crephoto: just ask, probably
[05:06] <tripelb> TheLifelessOne, you can do it on a usb flash drive
[05:06] <TheLifelessOne> I'm not so concerned about the partition, honestly.
[05:06] <crephoto> kk
[05:07] <Flannel> SubCool: That's fine, as long as you remain ontopic in this channel.
[05:07] <SubCool> Flannel, if u know anything about flash.. that'll get me out quicker..
[05:07] <TheLifelessOne> tripelb, BIOS doesn't support that. :/
[05:07] <tripelb> TheLifelessOne, please use my nick in every line when you are talking to me.
[05:07] <tripelb> TheLifelessOne, ty
[05:07] <TheLifelessOne> tripelb, sorry. :/
[05:07] <tripelb> ah I see the lifelessone, older comuter than my 2004 one.  Then have someone else make you a liveCD
[05:08] <pissedkid> Chupe mantequilla de mi culo
[05:08] <tripelb> ah I see the lifelessone, older comuter than my 2004 one.  Then have someone else make you a liveCD  TheLifelessOne
[05:08] <escott> TheLifelessOne, you could try booting a vm of the install cd and then installing to a raw image... then chroot in to install the bootloader
[05:08] <TheLifelessOne> tripelb, 'tis a very old computer.
[05:08] <benzaldehyde> flannel you havent said one ontopic thing since i got here other than to hand ring everyone else what do you even do here
[05:08] <TheLifelessOne> escott, I wouldn't even know where to get started with that. :/
[05:08] <crephoto> right now, the blender package is behind the currently released version... if i wanted to package the current version and post it to the repos, how would i do that/where should i go to find out?
[05:09] <SultansElephant> find the ppa
[05:09] <escott> TheLifelessOne, there is an ubuntu minimal netboot. you might try that. its the closest to a debian bootstrap that i am aware of
[05:09] <SultansElephant> like
[05:09] <benzaldehyde> if anyone needs a lesson on topics its you, look up socrates, he inveted topics
[05:09] <SultansElephant> luke
[05:09] <tripelb> TheLifelessOne, I cant understand what escott said. sHe's a better source. I hand you over... HEH
[05:09] <SubCool> KICK BUTT benzaldehyde
[05:09] <TheLifelessOne> escott: there's a netboot of that?
[05:09] <benzaldehyde> ,,!,,, flannel t-shirt sit n spin
[05:10] <tripelb> escott, doesnt installing ubuntu on a partition erase everything on that partition?
[05:10] <TheLifelessOne> tripelb, all my data is backed up.
[05:10] <escott> TheLifelessOne, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[05:10] <escott> tripelb, i would think so
[05:10] <TheLifelessOne> escott: Thanks
[05:10] <balleyne> crephoto: not sure myself, but looks like there was a packaging guide put out recently: http://iloveubuntu.net/ubuntu-packaging-guide-out-easy-logic-presentation-lucid-maverick-natty
[05:10] <mylisto> hey folks
[05:11] <crephoto> balleyne: thnx, ill check it out
[05:11] <mrcreativity> can someone please tell me how can enable show desktop in unity.
[05:11] <tripelb> TheLifelessOne, ah so escott has an answer better than asking for a liveCD (triplelb remembers this)
[05:11] <balleyne> crephoto: oh, better link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete
[05:11] <crephoto> mrcreativity: have you tried <super>+d ?
[05:11] <crephoto> kk
[05:11] <tripelb> question, can I repartion my hard drive in a way that I dont lose my data. I have used 15% of it.
[05:12] <mrcreativity> sorry if i want clear...i didnt mean show desktop, i wanted something like show all windows
[05:12] <SubCool> Flash anyone?
[05:12] <Nobgul-BNC> SubCool, what is the flash question?
[05:12] <crephoto> then you should try <super>+w
[05:12] <SubCool> can someone help with flash, i was watching anime and it crashed. Now it wont load at all. I have uninstalled it, and reinstalled via Software manager, i have uninstalled and reinstalled FLAHS-aid for firefox.
[05:12] <tripelb> mrcreativity, click on the thing in the panel that shows desktop then click on it again to reveal all deaktops. It's a purple square way on the left for me.
[05:12] <Starminn> mrcreativity: There's Compiz Scale. Works in 10.10, I don't use 11.04 so I couldn't say
[05:13] <tripelb> subcool. try installing chrome.
[05:13] <Nobgul-BNC> SubCool, Did you reboot the system?
[05:13] <balleyne> SubCool: what happens when you try to view a flash video? grey box? crash? nothing loads?
[05:13] <tripelb> good call for subcool.
[05:13] <SubCool> i have chrome
[05:13] <SubCool> i have rebooted a few times
[05:13] <mrcreativity> something like what super + w does...but with the mouse. i have it enabled in gnome classic using cssm, i cant figure out how to do it in unity
[05:14] <Flannel> tripelb: Please don't give annoying answers like that.  Thanks.
[05:14] <SubCool> um.. when i try to load a poage with flash, it says i do not have flash
[05:14] <Nobgul-BNC> mrcreativity, mouse gestures ish?
[05:14] <tripelb> flannel, I beg your pardon?
[05:14] <benzaldehyde1> ineffectual operator
[05:14] <Flannel> tripelb: "How do I get flash working in firefox" "Install chrome" is not a helpful answer.
[05:14] <mrcreativity> yeah...sorry for not being able to find the correct words...im kinda stupid today morning
[05:14] <Nobgul-BNC> mrcreativity: It's ok.
[05:15] <benzaldehyde1> is that what you do give everyone grief
[05:15] <balleyne> SubCool: oooh... in multiple browsers? Do you get the same results in Chrome *and* FIrefox, or is it only giving you trouble in one browser?
[05:15] <Omega> benzaldehyde: Please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, this is not the correct channel for those comments.
[05:15] <crephoto> mrcreativity: you can use ccsm in unity... unless you already tried that
[05:15] <Nobgul-BNC> mrcreativity, you can install gestikk as well, I am almost sure that is for mouse genstures.
[05:15] <tripelb> flannel, first he didnt say that. He wanted to see his anime. And we are all learning. If you install chrome and it works then you isolate the problem. I've never heard anyone so rute in all the years I have been here but then I dont tend to remember the rude ones.
[05:15] <SubCool> balleyne, both browsers
[05:15] <CodenameStrike> I thought Unity's behavior is controlled by CCSM?
[05:16]  * tripelb leaves
[05:16] <escott> CodenameStrike, to some extent
[05:17] <SubCool> balleyne, Nobgul-BNC tripelb - i have this problem frequently- Ill be watching anime. then it'll randomly crash. Then i have nothing until i reinstall everything. Which isnt working
[05:17] <benzaldehyde2> you ain't no daisy
[05:17] <Omega> SubCool: Do you have the flash plugin enabled?
[05:17] <benzaldehyde2> couldn't operate my johnson
[05:17] <benzaldehyde2> friggen loser
[05:17] <balleyne> SubCool: what command / method are you using to reinstall Flash?
[05:17] <benzaldehyde2> toss my salad
[05:17] <Nobgul-BNC> SubCool, I don't think it is a isolate issue to just you. I have the same problem.
[05:17] <benzaldehyde2> town punk
[05:18] <SubCool> Omega, ofcourse?
[05:18] <centHOGG> seek professional help
[05:18] <SubCool> balleyne, i am using software manager
[05:18] <Omega> SubCool: In Firefox go to Tools->Add-ons->Plugin and check.
[05:18] <benzaldehyde2> flannel your mother sucks cocks in hell
[05:18] <benzaldehyde2> suck it
[05:18] <Omega> Plugins*
[05:18] <benzaldehyde2> ,,!,,
[05:18] <benzaldehyde2> pickle kisser
[05:19] <CodenameStrike> escott: well that I do understand. But as far as enabling Unity options is concerned the options are in CCSM I guess
[05:19] <CodenameStrike> mouse gestures on the other hand, I think it's not related to Unity
[05:19] <SubCool> I have Firefox 4, and there is nothing with flash in my plugins
[05:19] <escott> CodenameStrike, it uses compiz so ccsm still takes effect, but the unity-panel is not exposed in ccsm so you can't configure it that way
[05:19] <SubCool> Omega,
[05:20] <Omega> SubCool: There should be an entry called "Shockwave Flash" if it is not there, flash is not installed.
[05:20] <SubCool> Omega, i only have picasa, skype and iced-tea in my plguins
[05:20] <Nobgul-BNC> SubCool: type About:Plugins in the address bar
[05:20] <Omega> Nobgul-BNC: If it is not where I told him to look, it won't be in about:plugins.
[05:20] <CodenameStrike> escott: I see
[05:20] <benzaldehyde3> you pickle chasing queen
[05:20] <centHOGG> again
[05:20] <benzaldehyde3> couldn't operate a walkman
[05:20] <SubCool> Omega, Nobgul-BNC neither
[05:21] <benzaldehyde3> cant even stand your ground and fight you kick and ban
[05:21] <benzaldehyde3> whimp
[05:21] <benzaldehyde3> ,,!,,
[05:21] <k_sze> How does SLIP really work? Do I just attach a TCP/IP interface to a serial line using slattach, and *assume* there is somebody at the other end of the serial line?
[05:21] <Omega> SubCool: run the following command: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[05:21] <escott> Flannel, you keep banning him before I can ignore him. stop it ;)
[05:23] <SubCool> Omega, already installed
[05:23] <SubCool> Omega, flashplugin-installer is already the newest version.
[05:24] <kaushal> Hi
[05:24] <balleyne> SubCool, Omega: could it up an update-alternatives thing? I remember using that tool a few versions of Ubuntu back when switching between Gnash and Flash...
[05:24] <balleyne> SubCool, Omega: not sure if that's relevant for 11.04 though
[05:26] <b_enz_aldehyde4> a sphincter bans b_enz_aldehyde4
[05:26] <Omega> SubCool: What did you do with Flash-aid?
[05:26] <SubCool> uninstalled it once flash crashed. rebooted. reinstalled
[05:26] <kaushal> I have connected Huawei Technologies EC 156 Tata Photon+ Data Card to Ubuntu 11.04, pastebin here -> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/628261/ Please suggest.
[05:27] <escott> SubCool, its possible your firefox profile is confused. you might try rm -rf .firefox/plugins or some such
[05:27] <SubCool> i work off of chrome
[05:27] <SubCool> escott, i suppose but doubt it.
[05:28] <SubCool> Omega, escott i use chrome, but im not use to chrome. And i know when i install flash via Firefox, it fixes it. SO- i dot know if messing with the firefox profile is going to work.
[05:28] <Omega> SubCool: run the following command: sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-installer && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[05:28] <PCdoc> i dun understand why ubuntu finds updates for touchscreen when I dun have one :-s
[05:28] <PCdoc> is there linux version for chrome :-o ??
[05:29] <Nobgul-BNC> Yes
[05:29] <escott> PCdoc, chromium is in the repos
[05:29] <escott> !info chromium-browser | PCdoc
[05:29] <SubCool> Omega, done
[05:30] <PCdoc> its available on google.com/chrome too .. i just saw
[05:30] <SubCool> Omega, Fixed
[05:30] <escott> SubCool, you do have the browser closed while you do this right?
[05:30] <balleyne> kaushal: what are you trying to do with that device?
[05:30] <SubCool> escott,  ya
[05:30] <kaushal> balleyne: Its a USB Data Card
[05:30] <Lasivian> heya
[05:30] <SubCool> Omega, TY!!!
[05:31] <Lasivian> how can I make a sshell script run as a cron job under another user account?
[05:31] <SubCool> escott, ty!
[05:31] <Omega> SubCool: No problem :)
[05:31] <Guest82337> PCdoc: You want chromium. It's just same as Google Chrome without that extra icky tracking stuffs.
[05:31] <balleyne> PCdoc: Chrome is the proprietary version, Chromium is open source. Slight differences, e.g. with Chromium from the repos, you'll get updates and such through Ubuntu's update manager, doesn't have Google branding
[05:31] <_ben_zalde_hyd_e> a sphincter bans _ben_zalde_hyd_e5
[05:31] <_ben_zalde_hyd_e> a sphincter bans _ben_zalde_hyd_e5
[05:31] <_ben_zalde_hyd_e> a sphincter bans _ben_zalde_hyd_e5
[05:31] <FloodBot1> _ben_zalde_hyd_e: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:31] <Lasivian> sudo -u username /location/script.sh fails because it's not acting as that user
[05:31] <escott> Lasivian, username is part of crontab
[05:31] <Lasivian> escott: oh, duh.. you;re right
[05:31] <Lasivian> thanks
[05:32] <PCdoc> kaushal: u need to install wvdial in terminal fire this command  >> sudo apt-get install wvdial
[05:32] <kaushal> PCdoc: Can i get it configured using NM ?
[05:32] <escott> Lasivian, if its an actual user with login it would be better to su to them and then use the standard method to make sure they can edit it (if you want them to be able to edit their own cron entries)
[05:33] <PCdoc> kaushal: m using reliance usb data card and i use wvdial .. without nay probs :P
[05:33] <moegreen> anbody else lose audio from the headphone port when going to 11.04?
[05:33] <moegreen> bugging the heck out of me
[05:33] <praxgen> lose audio??
[05:33] <escott> moegreen, there was a regression in the intel-hda profiles, eventually got better for me
[05:33] <moegreen> what can i do?
[05:34] <balleyne> moegreen: what sound card do you have?
[05:34] <bullgard4> [Ubuntu  Classic (No effects)] I have lost the notification area and all applets in the right-hand half of the upper pane. How to get them back?
[05:34] <moegreen> uh let me check..its onboard my asus sabertooth
[05:35] <Omega> bullgard4: what did you do that resulted in them being lost?
[05:35] <moegreen> via VT2020
[05:35] <Jaded> hey hey
[05:36] <bullgard4> Omega: I tried to repair a nasty bug: To get rid of an unknown keybinding of the F12 key.
[05:36] <bullgard4> s/pane/panel/
[05:37] <Jaded> found a problem with my install
[05:37] <Jaded> :D
[05:37] <Jaded> cat ./proc/interrupts
[05:37] <Jaded> IRQ was taken by my video card AND eth0
[05:38] <Jaded> put my eth0 in different pci slot, problem solved
[05:38] <balleyne> moegreen: I'm not quite sure how to fix your problem, and I've got to run, but worth asking again with mention of your sound card, or maybe searching the web on that -- probably to do with your specific card under 11.04
[05:38] <opakavic> hi everyone
[05:38] <moegreen> ok thx
[05:46] <thunder1212> hi
[05:49] <pksadiq> FloodBot1: Why are you blocking all the ips ?
[05:49] <pksadiq> Flannel: Why are you blocking all the ips ?
[05:51] <Lee_Prison> hey
[05:53] <thunder1212> how to optimize xubuntu it seems to be using 100
[05:53] <thunder1212> % of my cpu
[05:53] <Lee_Prison> this is my command:"I love you "|od -t x1 -An test |tr -s "\n"   ,but i can't remove the "\n|
[05:53] <Lee_Prison> help
[05:53] <thunder1212>  i have very little ram 348 mb only
[05:53] <ZykoticK9> thunder1212, find out what is actually using your CPU, in a terminal you can use "top"
[05:54] <ZykoticK9> thunder1212, also, Lunbuntu is MUCH lighter then xubuntu for low power systems.
[05:54] <Jaded> thunder1212: i was having a few issues like that a few hours ago.
[05:55] <Jaded> 512MB ram for me, was it a pure xubuntu install?
[05:55] <Jaded> what graphics drivers are you using?
[05:55] <bullgard4> [Ubuntu  Classic (No effects)] I have lost the »Indicator Applet Session« applet. How to bring it back to my panel?
[05:55] <Lee_Prison> here is my command:"I love you "|od -t x1 -An test |tr -s "\n" " "             I want to remove the \n,,,,,but how ?
[05:56] <Airris> So i need to update a package controlled by synaptic to a newer version i compiled from source. Said package is libjpeg and has dependencies in the hundreds. Is there some way to do this without having to reinstall pretty much everything?
[05:56] <Lee_Prison> here is my command:"I love you "|od -t x1 -An |tr -s "\n" " "             I want to remove the \n,,,,,but how ?
[05:56] <Flannel> Lee_Prison: Please stop that.
[05:56] <Lee_Prison> sorry
[05:57] <Airris> Lee_Prison, coming from someone that has to repeat himself a lot. doing it at about 8-15 min intervals is ideal :3
[05:57] <lucas-arg> When is ubuntu coming out with it own line of computers?
[05:57] <codo> howdy
[05:58] <zenlunatic> lucas-arg: doubtful
[05:58] <codo> adobe flash player keeps crashing on chromium and firefox on my Ubuntu 11.04 - the Natty Narwhal
[05:59] <lucas-arg> They would kick apple ass
[05:59] <joe9876> anyone know what defines the default email password from postfix...default mail goes to <username>@server but I want to change the default
[05:59] <zenlunatic> lucas-arg: hah youre funny
[05:59] <Airris> that reminds me, if the upgrade between ubuntu versions fails because of package dependency nightmares, is there ways to tinker with it so it works?
[05:59] <Airris> This is already a matured system, reinstalling from scratch isn't really on the table
[06:00] <conradmurray> codo: try gnash
[06:00] <thunder1212> i think i should switch to lubuntu its much lighter and faster
[06:00] <zenlunatic> lucas-arg: but if you wanna play make-believe, i wish canonical would come out with a tablet
[06:00] <joe9876> Airris: if you have to make a backup of etc, var, home  its easier to copy over config files than reconfigure
[06:01] <conradmurray> thunder1212: i think i should switch to gentoo
[06:01] <centHOGG> gentoo = painfully slow setup
[06:01] <Jaded> FlushBox for life
[06:01] <thunder1212> conradmurray: is gentoo very fast..
[06:02] <conradmurray> thunder1212: it is the fast penguin
[06:02] <Airris> joe9876 : it's not that it's more that there's a number of open source projects installed manually on here that'd take days to put back on, i was thinking i can't back that much up since one of them may very well be the problem in the first place
[06:02] <conradmurray> *fastest
[06:03] <thunder1212> how about linux mint xfce debian edition, i checked their website and the ram requirement is very little it says
[06:03] <joe9876> Airris well *IF* you have to resort to the worst case, it will take days, and then you'll have to slowly put things back until it breaks again, then you'll know your problem
[06:03] <conradmurray> thunder1212: you can get a minimal install from the ubuntu server disc and install just the lightest things, Xorg, fluxbox, midori.. these are faster in my opinion
[06:03] <hawke_> Hi all…hoping someone could help me, I’m having some trouble with Unity’s system menu, it shows up behind all my windows… and if I have a full-screen window it is (obviously) not visible at all.
[06:03] <hawke_> Anyone have any idea what’s going wrong?
[06:03] <zenlunatic> linux mint xfce debian edition... now theres a name
[06:03] <pvh_sa> does anyone know how to adjust webcam brightness? i've got a built-in cam on my toshiba portege, running 11.04
[06:04] <joe9876> Airris: you could try and do a nondestructive reinstall, but you'll probalby have to do a lot of reconfig anyways
[06:04] <Lee_Prison> sorry ,my expression has problem.
[06:05] <joe9876> hawke_ and if you move the mouse over it doesn't appear?
[06:05] <Airris> hmmm. wait. *facepalm* i might have figured out what's probably breaking this in the first place
[06:05] <conradmurray> thunder1212: midori over firefox is a big difference as is using fluxbox instead of gnome
[06:05] <Airris> kde is on here for some reason...
[06:05] <Airris> (regular ubuntu, so gnome is the default used)
[06:05] <joe9876> hawke_ mine is behind two until i move the mouse over to the edge
[06:06] <Flannel> Lee_Prison: Are you trying to remove a single newline character? or "\n"? (two characters, a slash, then an n)
[06:06] <joe9876> *too
[06:06] <hawke_> joe9876: Right.
[06:06] <hawke_> joe9876: That’s including clickin on the ubuntu logo in the top left.
[06:06] <dinkyd00> hi, I got a boomk a while back that covers programming asm on x86 linux (ubuntu specifically) .. but I got an amd64 for xmas and wonder, can I still use this book?  much thanks!!
[06:06] <hawke_> I have to minimize everything if I want to see the menu or the ‘taskbar’ (whatever it’s called in Unity)
[06:07] <joe9876> hawke_  hmmmm not sure, there must be a setting somewhere if its not going in and out... sorry i can't help further, you'll have to get on the forums or google a lot
[06:07] <conradmurray> thunder1212: xterm over gnome-terminal.. little choices like that play a major difference.. i command line my videos, mplayer for example.. also command line for my dvds and cds growisofs and wodim, respectively
[06:08] <Jaded> conradmurray, do you have a good site that lists light weight alternatives, for all the packages you've listed?
[06:09] <Jaded> for apps i mean.
[06:09] <Jaded> and also window managers
[06:09] <conradmurray> Jaded: aptitude or apt-get.. dunno about sites i just try a lot of stuff
[06:09] <Jaded> I've tried every window manager on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems
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[06:10] <conradmurray> Jaded: i'm in xdm with fluxbox set as my default
[06:10] <Jaded> I'm getting very fustrated, almost prepared to go back the 2.4 kernel
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[06:10] <Jaded> xdm, nice
[06:10] <centHOGG> 2.4!
[06:10] <Jaded> tried that out a few hours ago.
[06:10] <Flannel> Lee_Prison: you want | tr -d '\n'
[06:11] <Airris> alright, so i'm trying to rip KDE out of this system. while i go do that. anyone for the other thing? There has to be some way to manually upgrade a package without uninstalling it's dependencies. Synaptic manages to do it whenever you want to download an update
[06:11] <Jaded> i thought fluxbox was based on blackbox?
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[06:11] <vandemar> 2.4?  how will that help?
[06:11] <conradmurray> Jaded: i've heard positive things about enlightenment but haven't tried it yet
[06:12] <vandemar> E used to be the epitome of bloat
[06:12] <ghsh> Airris: insmode -f
[06:12] <Jaded> what's your hardware conradmurray?
[06:12] <ghsh> Airris: arg
[06:13] <Airris> arg?
[06:13] <Jaded> What's the best way to setup desktop icons for flushbox?
[06:13] <hawke_> joe9876: Well, I restarted unity and it seems to be OK now.
[06:13] <hawke_> joe9876: Thanks for listening at least. :-)
[06:13] <Jaded> 2.4 has better support for legacy hardware :p
[06:14] <joe9876> Airris: can you just install ubuntu-desktop and remove kubuntu-desktop?
[06:14] <ghsh> Airris: man apt-get |grep force
[06:14] <ghsh> Jaded: give me box back -- you don't want it if you want icons
[06:15] <Lee_Prison> Flannel:   I have done.It's my  logical problem.   Thx
[06:15] <Airris> joe9876, working on that. Ubuntu-desktop i think is already present, it's just getting all the kde bits off
[06:15] <joe9876> Airris: so do a --purge remove on kubuntu-desktop?
[06:16] <Airris> XD I'll have to remember that for later, probably would have been easier than what i did.
[06:20] <Airris> thanks Joe. I might try dist upgrading tonight. My other problem i think would be resolved if i could make it to 11.04. I think 11.04's repositories have the version of libjpeg i need to upgrade to :3
[06:21] <ghsh> 11.04 sucks!
[06:21] <bazhang_> ghsh, then use something else
[06:22] <ghsh> bazhang: I do
[06:22] <bazhang_> ghsh, if not support, then chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[06:23] <ghsh> bazhang_: :P
[06:24] <Airris> hmm. then again 10.04 is a LTS release, there's some merit to sticking with it until the next one. Ok lets get crazy and go back to trying to upgrade libjpeg
[06:26] <FireStorms> How would I go about building a script that will change a compiz profile when a program is launched and change it back when the program is closed, are their hooks?
[06:27] <FireStorms> I'm using NetBeans and it takes a lot of system resources with the way I've got it set out, so I would like to automatically take the visual effects of compiz to imrpove performance
[06:27] <magn3ts_> My computer is hanging/unresponsive but via SSH I can see that it's not under load, why would it be unresponsive (note ssh login took nearly 10 minutes to complete)
[06:29] <joea2> how can i copy settings from fedora to ubuntu. my touchpad works properly in one and not the other.
[06:30] <joea2> that is for my touchpad
[06:30] <mcc> Hello... I am confused... I used some string I downloaded off the internet to add myself to a group... if I look in the users-admin utility and look under that group's "properties", I am listed as a member... however... if i open terminal and type "groups"... it is not listed... and I cannot access a particular folder which is 770 to the group
[06:30] <ghsh> magn3ts_: top?
[06:34] <mcc> ...
[06:34] <mcc> * types "su mcc" *
[06:34] <mcc> * suddenly is a member of the group he was not listed as before *
[06:34] <mcc> arrrgh
[06:34] <mcc> maybe this is some kind of weird x windows thing
[06:34] <adurodea> uhm
[06:35] <adurodea> mcc: i believe you have to re login for groups to change
[06:35] <khaime> hello to all
[06:35] <mcc> I just su'd from myself to myself and picked up a group
[06:35] <mcc> adurodea: so... when i open a new terminal in Ubuntu gui... that does not count as a "new login" the way it would if i had been SSHing in?
[06:36] <adurodea> mcc: correct. X is all one session
[06:36] <adurodea> minus ssh / su'd terminals inside of it
[06:36] <SultansElephant> is there any reason at all to use compiz
[06:36] <SultansElephant> i dont get it
[06:36] <mcc> got it, thanks
[06:36] <enovativ> i am trying to load ubuntu server on a dell poweredge 2600, and I have burned the image from the ubuntu site TWICE and i still cant install it
[06:36] <SultansElephant> enovativ: why not?
[06:36] <enovativ> i keep getting "file is corrupt" errors
[06:36] <celthunder> SultansElephant: waste your resources for a terrible ui and waste your time?
[06:37] <ghsh> SultansElephant: way it down make it only funny for under 20 etc
[06:37] <enovativ> i have the six drive configured RAID 5
[06:37] <SultansElephant> so what windows manager or whatever do i use out of the box
[06:37] <SultansElephant> and what exactly does compositing do
[06:37] <enovativ> and there were no errors on the burrning on either two CDS
[06:38] <celthunder> SultansElephant: i use xmonad but anything other than gnome kde unity xfce or such are usually pretty good
[06:38] <enovativ> use imgburn on a windowz box
[06:38] <enovativ> i HATE windows...LOL
[06:38] <celthunder> enovativ: did the md5 hash match?
[06:38] <celthunder> (for the iso)
[06:38] <ghsh> SultansElephant: you could change compize to medacity -- i use that
[06:38] <enovativ> celthunder: didn't verifyy the md5 hash
[06:38] <rage> Is there a way to send key presses to X from a shell script?
[06:39] <Kickaxe> Have you done a sha1 check on your images from ubuntu.com?
[06:39] <enovativ> is the md5 hash on the site ?
[06:39] <SultansElephant> how can i see what im using currently?
[06:39] <rage> Speficically I want to read a /dev/usbtty and send it as key strokes to X :-)
[06:39] <celthunder> SultansElephant: uhm what's running?
[06:39] <Kickaxe> Md5 has works too
[06:40] <aleksil> Hello.
[06:40] <enovativ> celthunder: i will check the md5 hash now
[06:40] <Airris> wait wait wait. question. can i install the newer version from source, then remove the older version, and hopefully aptitude will figure it out?
[06:40] <Airris> Or is that going to make everything explode spectacularly
[06:41] <Flannel> Airris: You install the new one, don't remove the old one, and make sure the programs figure it out
[06:41] <aleksil> I have a problem with the month&date display in the indicator.
[06:41] <alexfpms__> FireStorms, try here #compiz
[06:41] <celthunder> Airris: ? you could use aptitude to install the version in the repo's or the source version for whatever version yo uwant why would it explode?
[06:41] <FireStorms> alexfpms__, ty
[06:41] <Airris> celthunder, i need a newer version of what's in the repositories. But i can't remove the old version first without uprooting countless dependencies
[06:42] <aleksil> The indicator currently shows "Fri 17. Juneta", a combination of the English month name and a Finnish suffix "ta".
[06:42] <durre> the data in my ubuntu server has been rolled back to the state of 1st of May. is there any logs that could give a hint of what happened?
[06:42] <Kickaxe> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes check this to see if your md5 has on the iso matches
[06:42] <mcc> I am confused by my options re: installing libpng in apt-get
[06:42] <celthunder> Airris: so instal the new one from source using the same --prefix as the packaged version does it should overwrite anything it needs to
[06:42] <mcc> Do I want libpng12-0 or libpng3
[06:43] <bullgard4> How can I determine to what program my F12 key in Ubuntu Classic (No effects) is bound to? I installed a test user, and there this binding does not exist.
[06:43] <Airris> celthunder: what happens if something that uses that package is running when i do that?
[06:44] <Guest82337> bullgard4: Check Keyboard Shortcuts if you haven't.
[06:45] <almoxarife> where can I d/l ubuntu-desktop pckg ? and how do I keep it from adding missing dependencies?
[06:45] <adurodea> almoxarife: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop --nodep
[06:45] <almoxarife> adurodea: thnks
[06:46] <aleksil> How do I change the way the time indicator displays date in Natty? The default is buggy.
[06:46] <aplund> I'm getting lots of uncleared damage to windows on X.  I have an nvidia Quadro NVS 135M.  Only started happening on the upgrade to 11.04.  Is this a known issue; I cannot seem to find any hints on how to deal with it.
[06:46] <almoxarife> adurodea: --nodep is not understood
[06:47] <adurodea> almoxarife: man apt-get
[06:47] <Airris> wait. i should check lucid-bleed just to see if i get lucky
[06:47] <bullgard4> Guest82337: I already have. I also checked the "key" in /apps/metacity  in gconf-editor. Nowhere I could find "F12" or "f12".
[06:48] <bullgard4> s/"key"/"keys"
[06:50] <Guest82337> bullgard4: Maybe this is relevant -- but I recall I can't run a terminal shortcut. I didn't know why -- Later I found out because I was in metacity. So try compiz. metacity. Some functions are disabled.
[06:52] <Lee_Prison> hey,i have wrote a script:   sman(){man $1|grep "\$2"}              to achieve a function,such as    sman  ls -o     ,but it does't work
[06:54] <r1za> hellow world
[06:54] <MarcelT3> hey there. i'm trying to get the first line of top output to a php script. i'm here: top -b | grep "load average" # but i'd like to stop the top command after getting th first line. how?
[06:55] <qin> Lee_Prison: did you try: man ls | grep "-o" ????
[06:55] <bullgard4> Guest82337: I do not understand you well. Why should I try Compiz? In Compiz an analogous error (key binding) appears.
[06:56] <llutz_> MarcelT3: top -b
[06:56] <magn3ts> I just had Ubuntu/gdm/X crash... my system was not under load, nor was I under heavy IO load... What could cause this? What logs can I check? This was majorly disruptive, I lost data and I corrupted a VM... I don't mind and it's no one's fault but I'd appreciate any tips in debugging it or tracking down any idea of what happened.
[06:56] <Lee_Prison> qin,  yes , but your expesion is wrong :man ls |grep "\-o"
[06:56] <magn3ts> this happens about once every two or three weeks if I don't reboot.
[06:56] <MarcelT3> llutz_ yep. for batch. how can i stop it?
[06:56] <llutz_> MarcelT3: top -b -n 1
[06:57] <MarcelT3> many thanx llutz_
[06:57] <qin> Lee_Prison: You right
[06:57] <Guest82337> bullgard4: I don't really know your problem -- but I'm saying that I can't do certain things until I am running compiz. Stupid -- but -- I don't know if that's your case.
[06:58] <zeroedout> magn3ts: start with dmesg
[06:58] <zeroedout> also check /var/log/xorg.0.log for x related stuff
[06:58] <bullgard4> Guest82337: I just told you that the same error appears under Compiz. So this reasoning does not help.
[06:59] <ghostnik11> hi, need help with getting pitivi to update to latest build which is 14 and i am on 13.5 but when i put in the ppa i get this error when i tell update manager to update: Requires installation of untrusted packages
[06:59] <zeroedout> and /var/log/syslog
[06:59] <ghostnik11> The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources.
[06:59] <magn3ts> zeroedout, I had to reboot though, it was completely unusable.
[06:59] <magn3ts> zeroedout, as in, I had to manually pull the plug `sudo reboot` from SSH gave me the "system going down" but it just sat there...
[06:59] <magn3ts> lol
[06:59] <Guest82337> bullgard4: I get it. That's all I have to offer. (I tried). :)
[07:00] <bullgard4> Guest82337: Thank you for your comment. I appreciate it.
[07:01] <zeroedout> when you ssh'd in you couldn't cat /var/log/xorg.0.log?
[07:01] <DJHenjin> hola
[07:01] <zeroedout> if it's a kernel issue, i believe it's kern.log
[07:01] <magn3ts> zeroedout, I dunna, it didn't occur to me until just now. I suppose I can still check that log though, it's not burnt at boot
[07:02] <qin> Lee_Prison: \ seem to escape $ in script
[07:02] <zeroedout> you can enable the deepest level of kernel logging as well (log level 8, do this in grub.conf) and that will give you very detailed messages if it is a kernel issue
[07:02] <DJHenjin> im thinking of upgrading my windows servers to the better *free* alternative ubuntu server, how good of performance can i expect as conpared to a windows machine hosting the same functions?
[07:02] <magn3ts> zeroedout, there's nothing useful in xorg.0.log
[07:03] <magn3ts> zeroedout, ugh, thanks but why isn't that sort of thing turned on by default? it's never helpful after the fact when people wonder what happened.
[07:03] <llutz_> DJHenjin: "same functions" are?
[07:03] <zeroedout> loglevel 8 will slow things down
[07:03] <magn3ts> kinda like how there's no logging enabled for Vino when there's a freaking vulnerability in the wild.
[07:03] <DJHenjin> apache webserver, MySQL server, Email server
[07:03] <zeroedout> also you can run specific componants in gdb and strace to create useful crash reports
[07:04] <magn3ts> zeroedout, oh.
[07:04] <Nobgul-BNC> DJHenjin, I have always prefered a *nix based server. They seem to be more stable to me.  As far as hosting goes, in my opinion it should be a lot faster, But if you have never used *nix then there will be a learning curve
[07:04] <magn3ts> heh, running gdb and causing a crash would imply I knew what crashed or caused the problem :P
[07:04] <DJHenjin> i have used *nix based systems before, but not fully to the extend that i would like to
[07:05] <DJHenjin> does ubuntu server offer any kind of clustering?
[07:05] <Nobgul-BNC> DJHenjin, For my clients I install unbuntu then install ehcp control panel for hosting.
[07:05] <pRoV7x> Hello there folks
[07:06] <Nobgul-BNC> It will set everything up for you. I have never had a issue where I had to configure more then just simple settings.
[07:06] <Lee_Prison> qin:maybe,but man ls |grep "\-o"   works.
[07:06] <DJHenjin> ehcp control panel?
[07:06] <Nobgul-BNC> DJHenjin, What type of clustering are you looking for managment?
[07:06] <zeroedout> magn3ts: lol, true... try reproducing the crash and document what you do that causes it. then try running various things in gdb to see if there is anything out of the ordinary
[07:06] <Nobgul-BNC> Yes its a opensource web based control panel.
[07:07] <Lee_Prison> qin:Oh,sorry
[07:07] <DJHenjin> well, i have to spread the MySQL webserver email server and minecraft server over 3 physical machines
[07:07] <llutz_> Lee_Prison: but if you escape the $ ("\$2") your expression is "man foo|grep $2" "$2" literally
[07:07] <DJHenjin> which i would like to run *as though* they are a single machine, with a degree of failover
[07:07] <adurodea> DJHenjin: I have an email/dns/web server on nix with about 100 people on it uses under a gig of ram and almost no cpu
[07:07] <DJHenjin> the minecraft server is the kicker, also the age of my physical servers
[07:08] <DJHenjin> 2 single core 3.0GHZ processors 2 GB of ram...
[07:08] <ghostnik11> Requires installation of untrusted packages for pitivi error in ubuntu 11.04 how do i fix this problem?
[07:08] <aleksil> Is there a way to make the date/time indicator display the month number instead of name? I'd prefer "17.6." to the current "17. Juneta" (which itself is buggy).
[07:08] <Nobgul-BNC> DjMadness, With the exception of Clustering to control managment I have never had to spread anything out like that.  I have a webserver that has over 1k websites on it and you would never know it. We do have a seperate server for mysql and the mail.
[07:08] <DJHenjin> 1k like 1 thousand seperate site? what are the specs on that beast
[07:09] <Nobgul-BNC> Yes. 1000 sites.
[07:09] <Nobgul-BNC> Dual quad core xeon with 16 gigs ram
[07:09] <DJHenjin> no wonder you have 1 thousand sites...
[07:10] <Nobgul-BNC> DJHenjin, What type of specs are on your boxes?
[07:10] <Lee_Prison> llutz_: i see,but how to solve the problem?
[07:10] <DJHenjin> 2 single core 3.0 GHZ processors 2 GB ram, dual gigabit nic's
[07:10] <DJHenjin> 2 73 gig 15k RPM HDD's
[07:11] <DJHenjin> cost of 3 servers $500, knowing what to do with them, Priceless
[07:11] <wladston> I want to move the /home directory to /mnt/users. Is it possible ?
[07:11] <Nobgul-BNC> DJHenjin, Imho you should not need to spread it out that much.
[07:12] <bazhang_> wladston, why would you want to do that
[07:12] <adurodea> wladston: yes
[07:12] <DJHenjin> the MySQL databases are huge
[07:12] <Nobgul-BNC> DJHenjin, Yea i have a 60gig mysql db.
[07:12] <wladston> bazhang_: because my first partition got filled :/
[07:12] <wladston> DJHenjin: how ?
[07:12] <DJHenjin> how what?
[07:12] <littlebearz> Where you get the bandwidth?
[07:13] <Nobgul-BNC> littlebearz, for what?
[07:13] <andycc> aleksil: I think that the date display is controlled by your regional settings. In the region configuration there *should* be a tab dedicated to time/date formats. Not on Ubuntu now, so I can't give you detailed instructions.
[07:13] <wladston> DJHenjin:  ops, sorry, that was for adurodea
[07:13] <wladston> adurodea: how ?
[07:13] <littlebearz> Bandwidth is like 2.00 per gb
[07:13] <tsimpson> wladston: create a new partition, copy the contents of /home to it, mount that partition as /home
[07:13] <qin> Lee_Prison: arg=$(echo '\'$2)
[07:13] <Nobgul-BNC> littlebearz, not at all i have a unmetered gigabit connection.
[07:13] <wladston> tsimpson: but that partition can't be just for /home
[07:13] <bazhang_> !home | wladston see this also
[07:14] <littlebearz> Oh wow. Must be expensive
[07:14] <qin> Lee_Prison: so: man $1 | grep "$arg"
[07:14] <adurodea> wladston: cp -pr /home /mnt/users change /etc/passwd and set the home to /mnt/users/$USER>
[07:14] <wladston> I know how to move it to a different partition. I wanted to "point" it to somewhere else
[07:14] <Nobgul-BNC> littlebearz, It really depends on where you host / rent your server. The place I am with has unmetered 100mbit servers for like 150$ per month
[07:14] <tsimpson> qin: "\\$2" works too
[07:14] <llutz_> wladston: you could bind-mount the new homedir
[07:14] <jtannenbaum> if I have ubuntu desktop installed on a machine, is it possible to make it into a server without reinstalling (the CD drive doesn't work)?
[07:14] <sliver> query: is the ubuntu wiki giving 500s for others?
[07:14] <qin> Lee_Prison: I guess in #bash they will give you elegant solution.
[07:14] <tsimpson> wladston: just use a bind mount
[07:14] <mcc> So... an autoconf question I guess... what is this ".deps" folder that winds up behind when I build something from an autoconf configure file?
[07:15] <qin> tsimpson: grep gives err with \\
[07:15] <tsimpson> wladston: bind /mnt/users to /home
[07:15] <littlebearz> Mines 150 for3 years for 1 site
[07:15] <Nobgul-BNC> DJHenjin, I would start by getting 1 server compleatly setup and let it host everything, if you find yourself in a crunch for resources you could always use the 2nd server for just db and mail.
[07:15] <wladston> tsimpson, llutz : thanks! will google about this bind mount
[07:15] <mcc> More importantly: If somebody checked ".deps" into source control... would I be correct that this was a huge mistake?
[07:16] <DJHenjin> the minecraft server software currently uses 80+ percent CPU usage, and its the main draw on the MySQL which i would like to seperate into seperate physical machines, and the apache needs to be on the same machine as the MySQL
[07:16] <Nobgul-BNC> Why does it have to be on the same machine?
[07:16] <DJHenjin> because of the way a couple of the sites are setup
[07:17] <DJHenjin> DB is hardcoded into the site
[07:17] <CodeWar> guys I love Ubuntu hate Unity ... where do I protest to avoid this road to hell
[07:17] <littlebearz> Ouch
[07:17] <Nobgul-BNC> You can still span them across machines but would need a code rewrite =X
[07:17] <bazhang_> CodeWar, use classic instead
[07:17] <DJHenjin> yeah,
[07:17] <tsimpson> wladston: in /etc/fstab, something like "/mnt/users /home none bind 0 0", which is equivalent to the command "mount /mnt/users /home -o bind"
[07:17] <bazhang_> !classic | CodeWar
[07:17] <CodeWar> bazhang_,  not the same ... there are bugs with compiz that dont work with classic
[07:18] <bazhang_> CodeWar, file some bugs then
[07:18] <Nobgul-BNC> DJHenjin, I have a user running a minecraft server and its not using that much ram , or proc. How many users use yours?
[07:18] <DJHenjin> oh and then theres the fact that the minecraft server needs to write some files into a specific directory on the apache
[07:18] <tsimpson> wladston: just make sure that /home is empty before you bind /mnt/users to it, or mount will probably complain
[07:18] <Nobgul-BNC> DJHenjin, You can for lack of a better term symlink those.
[07:18] <wladston> tsimpson: right! :) I'm trying here
[07:18] <DJHenjin> Nobgul-BNC is he using the server software from mojang or something else?
[07:18] <CodeWar> I want to make a larger difference... create a voice to prevent Unitification of Ubuntu :-) I m sure there are other pissed of ubuntu users
[07:18] <DJHenjin> like say Bukkit which supports plugins
[07:18] <Nobgul-BNC> DJHenjin, From the official site. He knows the developer.
[07:19] <bazhang_> CodeWar, this is not the place for that. file bugs if you wish
[07:19] <Fretta> wheres a good dir to store ssl certs?
[07:19] <DJHenjin> so from minecraft.net then?
[07:19] <Guest96690> I was wondering if it makes sense to run Linux Mint only from my USB key and not install it
[07:19] <littlebearz> Yup
[07:19] <Nobgul-BNC> Never really dug into it as it doesnt cause me andy problems.
[07:19] <bazhang_> Guest96690, ask in mintsupport
[07:19] <Nobgul-BNC> any*
[07:19] <bazhang_> !mintsupport | Guest96690
[07:19] <Nobgul-BNC> DJHenjin, Its a jarfile hes running with a few args.
[07:20] <DJHenjin> i use bukkit, which is from Bukkit.org, with that i run plugins which slightly modify the entire play experience, adding money and stuff like that, i run approximately 30 of said plugins, which causes a higher load
[07:21] <Guest96690> What about running Ubuntu from the USB key and not installing it on the hard drive?
[07:21] <Nobgul-BNC> DJHenjin, How many visitors are there to your site? even with your box specs i am thinking that apache + minecraft may not be a issue.
[07:21] <ozaking_ubuntu> oin #platform
[07:21] <bazhang_> Guest96690, slow, but sure. check out persistent usb
[07:21] <bazhang_> !usb | Guest96690
[07:21] <Nobgul-BNC> DJHenjin, If you are using 80% cpu underwindows i would think that it would be 1/2 less in *nix.
[07:22] <wladston> tsimpson: rebooting .... let's pray the server won't crash
[07:22] <DJHenjin> i get at leats 1k unique users per day approx
[07:22] <Guest96690> Reason I want to do that is, it would be nice to switch computers and retain all of my files and settings and everything.   I can also run Ubuntu on someone else's computer without annoying him by installing Ubuntu
[07:22] <DJHenjin> now, does ubuntu support NIC teaming?
[07:23] <bazhang_> Guest96690, thus the need for persistent (last link there)
[07:23] <Nobgul-BNC> yes
[07:23] <DJHenjin> yeah you can run Ubuntu off a usb stick, it wont be optimal but its sure faster than a CD
[07:23] <DJHenjin> so i can have essential a 2 gigabit connection assuming ive got gigabit cables and router/switch?
[07:23] <Nobgul-BNC> Yes.
[07:24] <Nobgul-BNC> As long as you don't surpass the speed of the cards of course.
[07:24] <DJHenjin> the cards are gigabit nics
[07:24] <Nobgul-BNC> Then you should be fine.I have 2 cards but one is redundant incase the other losses connectivity
[07:25] <DJHenjin> would it be better for interconnect between the minecraft machine and the MySQL machine to use a gigabit crossover cable and link them directly to each other?
[07:25] <wladston> tsimpson: worked just like a charm. server is now copying the homefolders to the new location
[07:25] <wladston> tsimpson: thanks :)
[07:25] <Psydoll_> hey folks whats going here?
[07:25] <tsimpson> wladston: you're welcome
[07:25] <bazhang_> Psydoll_, ubuntu support
[07:25] <DJHenjin> thusly keeping that link completely dedicated to the MC<->MySQL communications
[07:25] <Nobgul-BNC> DJHenjin, again I really can't speak for that as I never have had to do it.
[07:26] <nabeel> Hey I can't get a correct display on my Dell Latitude D800
[07:26] <nabeel> anyone?
[07:27] <nabeel> ????
[07:27] <Nobgul-BNC> Ask your question then sip a cup of coffee
[07:27] <bazhang_> !details | nabeel
[07:27] <DJHenjin> now quick question, my server isnt in the list of certified servers for ubuntu 10.04 server X64
[07:28] <bluegoon> Hi guys
[07:28] <DJHenjin> is that a problem?
[07:28] <Nobgul-BNC> DJHenjin, Do you need to run 64 bit?
[07:28] <DJHenjin> yes
[07:28] <theadmin> DJHenjin: Probably would still run, I mean, it's a damn server, just the text mode.
[07:28] <bluegoon> How do you set the default IP settings for all wireless connections on a wireless card?
[07:28] <DJHenjin> i hate textmode
[07:28] <Nobgul-BNC> DJHenjin, in my experience naw, i have never had something that would not run ubuntu
[07:28] <bazhang_> !wifi | bluegoon please have a read
[07:28] <theadmin> DJHenjin: Then you shouldn't use Ubuntu Server
[07:28] <Nobgul-BNC> DJHenjin, your 100% gonna be using text mode.
[07:29] <DJHenjin> sadly, im one of those users that really badly needs a gui
[07:29] <aurilliance> Hi all. I want to set up a script that will run and take a screenshot of my desktop every X minutes and save them to a folder. I've found http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1691198 but apparently it doesn't quite get the file names right. Anyone know how to do this?
[07:29] <Nobgul-BNC> I have a desktop on my server but thats just to keep some always on programs on.
[07:29] <DJHenjin> why "100% using text mode"
[07:29] <theadmin> aurilliance: Check scrot out
[07:29] <theadmin> DJHenjin: Ubuntu Server does NOT even have a gui
[07:29] <aurilliance> theadmin: will do. Ty
[07:29] <Nobgul-BNC> Because that is the way that linux servers work for the most part they are all text.
[07:29] <DJHenjin> isnt there an x server?
[07:29] <Nobgul-BNC> desktop
[07:29] <Nobgul-BNC> And you can add it in like i have to the server.
[07:30] <nabeel> I an running Natty; Display card "nvidia Geforce 4400, and using additional experimental drivers, the pointer is distorted. I was using nvidia 96.x drivers with lucid but after upgrading this problem arosed.
[07:30] <Nobgul-BNC> but its not the best option
[07:30] <theadmin> DJHenjin: No, there's not, use the desktop edition if you want one
[07:30] <DJHenjin> but then its not a server OS...
[07:30] <theadmin> DJHenjin: That doesn't make any difference
[07:30] <bazhang_> install lamp DJHenjin
[07:30] <DJHenjin> o rly
[07:30] <k_sze> Anybody here understands pppd chat scripts?
[07:30] <bazhang_> !lamp > DJHenjin
[07:30] <theadmin> DJHenjin: They're the same, just the software you get is different
[07:30] <littlebearz> Yeah
[07:31] <DJHenjin> i already use wamp so same difference
[07:31] <littlebearz> I use archlinux personally
[07:31] <Nobgul-BNC> Bottom line is you can install x server into the server distro
[07:31] <theadmin> littlebearz: gooood
[07:31] <Nobgul-BNC> You need to use vnc to connect.
[07:31] <DJHenjin> oy vey
[07:32] <Nobgul-BNC> That is why i suggested the control panel.
[07:32] <Nobgul-BNC> You basically install it once via command line. then everythine else u need to do you do via web
[07:32] <DJHenjin> like installing something through the web interface?
[07:33] <Nobgul-BNC> You can yes.
[07:33] <Lee_Prison> qin: I appreciate your solution,thx ,qin
[07:33] <Nobgul-BNC> It basically passes the commandsa through a php script and installs
[07:33] <littlebearz> Webmin
[07:33] <DJHenjin> now, how about this, i need to monitor temp sensors on my machines can it do that?
[07:33] <Nobgul-BNC> Yes
[07:33] <DJHenjin> even for dell proprietary hardware?
[07:33] <qin> Lee_Prison: Forgot it, use: grep -e "$2" or grep -- "$2"
[07:33] <Nobgul-BNC> There are scripts to do that and send you e-mails if it is out of range
[07:33] <Sahar> hi... after my ubuntu10.10 update, i cant open flash pages... it installed by dpkg -l | grep flash but i cant use it. pls help me.. tx
[07:34] <shinobilord> Any downsides to using normal gnome in 11.04?
[07:34] <Nobgul-BNC> DJHenjin, I can't speak for your hardware but for mine yes.
[07:34] <DJHenjin> well then, i might just have to go grab my spare server and install 10.10 server on it
[07:34] <bazhang_> shinobilord, what is normal
[07:34] <Nobgul-BNC> DJHenjin, I would suggest that. Do some putzing around before you make the move.
[07:35] <DJHenjin> thats why i have a spare server
[07:35] <DJHenjin> keyword, spare
[07:35] <Nobgul-BNC> The other alternative is to get a cheap vps and just play with that.
[07:35] <shinobilord> bazhang_: the option to choose regular gnome without unity on bootup
[07:35] <DJHenjin> but i already has spare server for lulz
[07:35] <DJHenjin> ...
[07:35] <bazhang_> shinobilord, thats classic, no problems
[07:35] <DJHenjin> dont really need a VPS if i have one on hand ready to roll out
[07:36] <kiichiro> in a way I see this as an ubuntu problem, I can not delete files from my trash can
[07:36] <bazhang_> kiichiro, using what command
[07:36] <Nobgul-BNC> I agree DJHenjin. Just giving options.
[07:36] <shinobilord> bazhang_: are certain things disabled? or do functions have to be re-enabled specifically for classic?
[07:36] <DJHenjin> ill brb in about ten minutes, gonna grab my spare server and DL the ubuntu server ISO
[07:36] <Sahar> hi... after my ubuntu10.10 update, i cant open flash pages... it installed by dpkg -l | grep flash but i cant use it. pls help me.. tx
[07:36] <bazhang_> Sahar, what is "it"
[07:37] <Lee_Prison> qin:  oh,  it's perfect!
[07:37] <Sahar> flash is installed
[07:37] <DJHenjin> should i get 11.04 server?
[07:37] <bazhang_> shinobilord, just choose at login window
[07:37] <DJHenjin> or go to an older more proven release?
[07:37] <bazhang_> Sahar, from where
[07:37] <kiichiro> I just go to my trash can and hit empty
[07:37] <kiichiro> tells me can not delete
[07:37] <Nobgul-BNC> DJHenjin it is what i am using
[07:38] <shinobilord> bazhang_: yeah, I know that but would all my settings be enabled?
[07:38] <Sahar> tehran
[07:38] <Sahar> hi... after my ubuntu10.10 update, i cant open flash pages... it installed by dpkg -l | grep flash but i cant use it. pls help me.. tx
[07:38] <bazhang_> Sahar, where was flash installed from
[07:38] <bazhang_> shinobilord, sure
[07:38] <shinobilord> bazhang_: cheers mate
[07:38] <DJHenjin> well isnt that fun, i clicked the download link and it wont download
[07:39] <Sahar> adobe flash in installed
[07:39] <bazhang_> shinobilord, try unity-2d if you want a lower spec version as well
[07:39] <bazhang_> Sahar, yes. stop repeating that. where did you get the flash to install
[07:39] <DJHenjin> where can i get a direct download link so i can right click-> save as
[07:40] <Sahar> i use apt-get install flash and it installed 2 week ago...but now it does not work
[07:40] <bazhang_> Sahar, and you have updated and upgraded since then?
[07:40] <Sahar> yesterday
[07:40] <dibblego> why when I press unlock on gdmsetup nothing happens, simply because I am running over ssh -X?
[07:41] <DJHenjin> i cannot download using the link on the ubuntu.com site
[07:42] <Nobgul-BNC> Why not.
[07:42] <Nobgul-BNC> 1 second
[07:42] <DJHenjin> because my web browser doesnt allo left click downloads for some messed up reason
[07:42] <bazhang_> http://releases.ubuntu.com/natty/ DJHenjin
[07:43] <DJHenjin> that 64 bit image says AMD, my processors are intel...
[07:43] <Nobgul-BNC> DJHenjin, can u grab a torrent?
[07:43] <bazhang_> DJHenjin, thats fine, its the same
[07:43] <DJHenjin> yeah i can do torrent
[07:43] <DJHenjin> probably faster
[07:44] <bazhang_> !torrents
[07:44] <bazhang_> DJHenjin, see above
[07:44] <Nobgul-BNC> there u go =P
[07:44] <nit-wit> DJHenjin, bazhang_ link will right click save as
[07:44] <Nobgul-BNC> nd to answer your question. yes the amd64 will work with intel
[07:44] <Nobgul-BNC> As amd was the first 64 bit that's why it is named that way
[07:45] <DJHenjin> alright well brb in 10 minutes gotta grab my server,
[07:45] <Nobgul-BNC> Well have fun, I am off for the night. its 3 am here and i need sleeps
[07:45] <DJHenjin> and then the main reason i was going to do it right now is gone. oh well
[07:45] <Nobgul-BNC> I can wait =P
[07:45] <Nobgul-BNC> Others can help
[07:46] <DJHenjin> nah, you can go to sleep, you probably need it more than i do
[07:46] <Sahar> my flash is installed but yesterday i get update and after that it doesnt work . when i wanna install again it says it already installed
[07:46] <Nobgul-BNC> Ill just grab another beer =P
[07:46] <DJHenjin> only if you want
[07:46] <k_sze> How do I make it so that any (or at least a specific) non-root user is allowed to establish PPP connections using pppd?
[07:46] <Nobgul-BNC> sure go for it ill be back in 5
[07:46] <aurilliance> I have a variable $DELAY in my .sh file, which equals 1. I want to sleep for 1 minute, but writing sleep $DELAYm doesn't work - how do I put the m next to the 1?
[07:47] <Lasers> aurilliance: Crazy idea? Just use 60.
[07:47] <aurilliance> Lasers: *facepalm*
[07:47] <Sahar> no one cant help mee
[07:47] <Nobgul-BNC> aurilliance, there is a sleep command is there not?
[07:48] <Lasers> aurilliance: If you prefer 1 -- See #bash -- They can help you properly with quotes and whatnot.
[07:48] <nit-wit> Sahar, FF browser? adobe flash?
[07:48] <Nobgul-BNC> aurilliance, If i rmember correctly its just sleep time ie: sleep 5
[07:48] <Sahar> yes i used adobe flash
[07:48] <nit-wit> Sahar, which browser
[07:48] <Sahar> fire fox yessss
[07:49] <Sahar> it worked tiill yesterday
[07:49] <tsimpson> aurilliance: "sleep ${DELAY}m"
[07:49] <nit-wit> Sahar, install the FF add on flash aid it will most likely fix it.
[07:49] <newbeee> why is an adobe flash plugin 65 mb in ubuntu?
[07:49] <newbeee> A simple plugin even larger than the browser
[07:50] <theadmin> Sorry everyone, something seems to have crashed my system so I was off
[07:50] <Sahar> nit-wit, but it is enable in addoness
[07:51] <newbeee> Is there a light flash plugin for mozilla?
[07:51] <bazhang_> newbeee, no
[07:51] <newbeee> Something that is light in size
[07:51] <tsimpson> newbeee: no, there is only one adobe flash
[07:52] <nit-wit> Sahar, click on the icon to run it, should be one on the right side of the FF panel
[07:52] <newbeee> Ok guys thanx
[07:52] <bluegoon> HI guys, my Additional Drives say Driver is Activated but not currently in use..
[07:52] <bluegoon> How do I activate my STA Wireless driver?
[07:52] <DJHenjin> i now need the USB boot disk maker
[07:52] <Nobgul-BNC> =)
[07:53] <bazhang_> DJHenjin, unetbootin
[07:53] <DamnSoGood> bluegoon: try restarting
[07:53] <newbeee> What is the command to stop apache2
[07:53] <Lasers> bluegoon: Have you reboot?
[07:54] <theadmin> newbeee: service httpd stop. I think
[07:54] <zho> newbeee: /etc/init.d/apache2 stop
[07:54] <theadmin> newbeee: Or service apache2 stop
[07:54] <lotuspsychje> goodmorning
[07:54] <bluegoon> Yes I did restart after uninstalling that ntlwrapper thing
[07:54] <lotuspsychje> anyone knows what this means: ntfs-3g[807]: Inode 42976 has corrupt attribute flags (0x8000 <> 0x20): Invoer-/uitvoerfout
[07:54] <DamnSoGood> theadmin: hey, how can i resolve this? my virtualbox ain't working
[07:55] <DamnSoGood> after i upgraded to a new kernel
[07:55] <Nobgul-BNC> lotuspsychje, is that on a vps?
[07:55] <DJHenjin> setting up bootable USB
[07:55] <DJHenjin> now on the server
[07:55] <theadmin> DamnSoGood: Not sure I can help. Sure it's the latest? Have you ran /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup yet?
[07:55] <bazhang_> DamnSoGood, try #vbox
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> Nobgul-BNC: no its my home ntfs drive that suddenly refused to write nntpgrab downloading
[07:56] <DJHenjin> ooh this servers got slightly better specs than the other two
[07:56] <bullgard4> What file stores the HISTSIZE and HISTFILESIZE environment variables? http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/aix/library/au-productivitytips.html I'd like to increas them.
[07:56] <DamnSoGood> yes, but seems nothing happened
[07:56] <tsimpson> bullgard4: usually ~/.bashrc
[07:56] <k_sze> I just issued "sudo chmod u+s /usr/sbin/pppd", but I still get a "permission denied" when I try to run pppd as nonroot. What am I missing?
[07:56] <Nobgul-BNC> lotuspsychje, sorry no help from me I have only seen that error with parrlys or w/e the vps thing is.
[07:57] <tsimpson> bullgard4: I don't think they are set by default though, so you just append them to the file
[07:57] <DamnSoGood> Result Code:
[07:57] <DamnSoGood> NS_ERROR_FAILURE (0x80004005)
[07:57] <DamnSoGood> Component:
[07:57] <DamnSoGood> Machine
[07:57] <DamnSoGood> Interface:
[07:57] <DamnSoGood> IMachine {99404f50-dd10-40d3-889b-dd2f79f1e95e}
[07:57] <FloodBot1> DamnSoGood: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:57] <theadmin> k_sze: s? What kind of a permission s is? The only valid ones are rwx
[07:57] <bazhang_> DamnSoGood, what kernel did you upgrade? from what to what and using which version of ubuntu
[07:57] <k_sze> theadmin: I thought u+s means setuid, no?
[07:58] <theadmin> k_sze: Hm, never heard
[07:58] <theadmin> k_sze: Didn't have to deal with that, sorry
[07:59] <DJHenjin> now, my servers dont have hardware raid, but i would like to setup raid 1 on this server, is there an option in the ubuntu server 11.04 to setup software raid?
[07:59] <tsimpson> k_sze: it's suid by default, but you need to be in the "dip" group to execute it
[07:59] <Nobgul-BNC> DJHenjin, yea
[08:00] <bullgard4> tsimpson: I found it there. Is "export HISTSIZE=10000" all right?
[08:00] <k_sze> tsimpson: What's the dip group for?
[08:00] <tsimpson> bullgard4: that should work, yes
[08:00] <DamnSoGood> i'm using mint 9 from 31.XX to 32.32
[08:00] <Nobgul-BNC> DJHenjin, when your installing you have to use the manual partition method
[08:00] <bazhang_> DamnSoGood, then go to mintsupport
[08:00] <theadmin> DamnSoGood: We don't support Mint, also version 9 is out of date
[08:00] <bullgard4> tsimpson: Thank you very much for your help.
[08:00] <bazhang_> !mintsupport | DamnSoGood
[08:00] <DJHenjin> oh god, not manual partitions again
[08:01] <Nobgul-BNC> lol yea
[08:01] <lotuspsychje> Nobgul-BNC: ok tnx anyway
[08:01] <Nobgul-BNC> There are a few how-to's
[08:01] <DJHenjin> 73 gig drives, so 3 gig swap per drive 70 gig ext3?
[08:01] <tsimpson> k_sze: dip is "Dialup IP"
[08:01] <k_sze> ah
[08:01] <DJHenjin> then set them up as raid 1?
[08:01] <shinobilord> Anyone know how to re-enable cube in classic gnome?
[08:01] <DamnSoGood> theadmin: how can i upgrade from a live usb?
[08:02] <Nobgul-BNC> DJHenjin, i always use 2x the ammount of ram for swap xspace
[08:02] <bazhang_> DamnSoGood, mint is not supported here
[08:02] <DJHenjin> so 4 gigs per drive?
[08:02] <theadmin> DamnSoGood: Mint is not upgradable.
[08:02] <Nobgul-BNC> I would yes
[08:02] <k_sze> tsimpson: so "sudo useradd -G dip <username>" should do it, eh?
[08:02] <DJHenjin> at 2 gigs *hehhehehe* ram
[08:02] <theadmin> k_sze: Without the -G
[08:03] <DamnSoGood> theadmin: how can i reinstall vox?
[08:03] <DamnSoGood> vbox*
[08:03] <bazhang_> DamnSoGood, please stop asking for mint support here.
[08:03] <Nobgul-BNC> I thought it created the swap auto for you
[08:03] <DJHenjin> not in manual partitioning?
[08:03] <DamnSoGood> bazhang_: would you please shut the fck up?
[08:03] <k_sze> theadmin: oops, adduser is for *new* users
[08:04] <theadmin> DamnSoGood: First just re-run /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup please
[08:04] <theadmin> k_sze: Works for old ones too
[08:04] <theadmin> k_sze: You can always do usermod -aG group user
[08:04] <tsimpson> k_sze: use "sudo usermod -a -G dip <username>"
[08:04] <lotuspsychje> anyone knows what this means: ntfs-3g[807]: Inode 42976 has corrupt attribute flags (0x8000 <> 0x20): Invoer-/uitvoerfout
[08:05] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: Try running a fsck or a chkdsk (from windows) on the partition
[08:05] <DJHenjin> okay booting up USB on the server
[08:06] <jtannenbaum> jusy sshed into my own computer, didn't know I could do that
[08:06] <k_sze> strange, I did "sudo usermod -aG dip alice" and I still can't use pppd.
[08:06] <lotuspsychje> theadmin: would it be recommended to format all drives in ext?
[08:06] <jtannenbaum> how would I ssh into a particular computer on my network.. I tired computername@localhost but that didn't work
[08:06] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: As much as Windows compatibility is out of question, yes
[08:06] <tsimpson> k_sze: you need to logout/in for the new permissions to apply
[08:06] <shinobilord> no takers for enable cube in 11.04 classic gnome?
[08:06] <k_sze> ah, didn't know that.
[08:06] <Nobgul-BNC> jtannenbaum, ipaddress
[08:06] <bazhang_> shinobilord, try #compiz
[08:07] <Nobgul-BNC> jtannenbaum, local ie: 192.168.1.1
[08:07] <shinobilord> yeah, I did mate
[08:07] <tsimpson> jtannenbaum: it's ssh user_name@computer_name_or_IP
[08:07] <theadmin> jtannenbaum: wut? It's username@computername
[08:07] <DamnSoGood> theadmin: how can i reinstall virtual box?
[08:07] <theadmin> DamnSoGood: Delete it and install again
[08:07] <IdleOne> DamnSoGood: Mint is not supported in this channel
[08:08] <jtannenbaum> ssh: connect to host joe-hspc port 22: Connection timed out
[08:08] <theadmin> DamnSoGood: But I tell you, stop bugging this channel with Mint support questions or you'll be kicked
[08:08] <shinobilord> bazhang_:  I'm in it. It's enabled. U might remember that I asked u if things got disabled. Well, here's a new one for u. They DO!
[08:08] <Nobgul-BNC> jtannenbaum they don't have sshd running
[08:08] <tsimpson> or firewalled
[08:08] <Nobgul-BNC> Or its running on a non standard port
[08:08] <k_sze> awesome. I think I got it.
[08:08] <DamnSoGood> i'm not asking about mint, is vbox only for mint?
[08:08] <k_sze> Thanks tsimpson
[08:08] <DJHenjin> booted off USB
[08:08] <bazhang_> DamnSoGood, #vbox
[08:08] <jtannenbaum> all I did was sudo tasksel and chose openssh
[08:09] <jtannenbaum> I didn't set anything else up
[08:09] <jtannenbaum> (I also set up LAMP)
[08:09] <theadmin> DamnSoGood: This channel won't help you if they know you run something other than Ubuntu, that's the rule
[08:09] <theadmin> A very stupid one at that, heh, but still
[08:10] <lotuspsychje> shinobilord: i also tryed cube on natty 64 classic and failed on me
[08:10] <DJHenjin> alright im to the partitioner, what do i do now?
[08:10] <tsimpson> theadmin: it's not a stupid rule considering that we have no control/clue about how <random people> have changed <random Ubuntu based distro>, it's not an arbitrary rule
[08:10] <DJHenjin> manual?
[08:11] <Nobgul-BNC> DJHenjin, its a bit old but. should get the trick done. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[08:12] <shinobilord> lotuspsychje:  cheers dude. I wish other people wouldn't dish out advice glibly
[08:12] <theadmin> tsimpson: Yes, but supporting parts that WERE NOT changed should imo still be done
[08:13] <lotuspsychje> shinobilord: maybe its related with unity disabling, cube wont work properly in classic?
[08:13] <IdleOne> theadmin: the parts that were not changed can still be affected by those that were
[08:13] <tsimpson> theadmin: we can't tell what was/wasn't changed, and we're not going to invest the limited man-power we have in doing that
[08:13] <theadmin> IdleOne, tsimpson: Meh okay. Other distros are fine with supporting derivs, just saying. Mostly.
[08:13] <lotuspsychje> shinobilord: did you update to natty or clean install?
[08:14] <tsimpson> theadmin: heh, go ask for Ubuntu support in #debian and tell me that :)
[08:14] <christopher> Has anyone created a program that will read Zune media players?
[08:14] <IdleOne> theadmin: nothing is stopping you from helping people who use mint, join their channel or start your own here on freenode :)
[08:14] <shinobilord> lotuspsychje: I disabled that. Didn't work. Suddenly everything unchecked - by itself. But nothing changed. I'll just import my saved profile :). Actually, I updated. Could be why.
[08:14] <theadmin> IdleOne: I can't start my own channels since then nobody'll come to them, it's my big problem
[08:15] <lotuspsychje> shinbilord: i found natty smoother on compiz after clean install (64bit)
[08:15] <bullgard4> 'Why does the mc file viewer (F3 key) in my Lucid computer not show the keywords of a program text colorfully? But my Natty's mc does.
[08:16] <shinobilord> lotuspsychje:  will consider it. Thanks mate. For now I'll just hack away some more
[08:17] <DJHenjin> i think i have got raid setup, 71.3 GB software raid 1 and 2.1 GB software raid 1
[08:17] <azm> hi, how is called the basic wifi network manager in ubuntu please ?
[08:17] <DJHenjin> hmm, getting no root filesystem is defined
[08:18] <lotuspsychje> shinobilord: http://askubuntu.com/questions/40590/desktop-cube-compiz-gnome-and-natty-narwhal-bad-mix
[08:18] <bazhang_> azm, network-manager
[08:18] <azm> I installed wifi-radar and it sucks
[08:18] <azm> bazhang_, thanks
[08:19] <bazhang_> azm, try wicd then
[08:19] <noric> in a gemspec, how do I tell rdoc to use README.org as the main page? Specifically will it work for *.org?
[08:19] <theadmin> noric: I think you'd be best off asking in #ruby or something
[08:20] <DJHenjin> 71.3 GB as ext4 and rest as swap?
[08:20] <noric> theadmin, oh wrong channel thanks =d
[08:22] <theadmin> noric: Nice language choice btw
[08:24] <DJHenjin> am i right in using ext4 with mount point / ?
[08:24] <jtannenbaum> used nmap to find the IP of the machine. yay laziness
[08:25] <aima_> is there any way to upgrade from jaunty? Trying to use the upgrade-manager -d which attempts 10.04.2 LTS it fails with an error from tar. I can't update jaunty packages due to the archive 404ing
[08:25] <DJHenjin> if i messed this up im screwed, i hope i got it right
[08:26] <prabhakar> how can install filename.so in ubuntu
[08:26] <bazhang_> prabhakar, whats the package
[08:26] <Nobgul-BNC> sorry DJHenjin, If you follow the guide i linked you should be fine. I have never had to manually partition my drives.
[08:27] <prabhakar> adobeflash.so
[08:27] <DJHenjin> it made me setup mount points and stuff, it got really weird fast
[08:27] <theadmin> prabhakar: Move that to your browser's plugins folder
[08:27] <Nobgul-BNC> *nix has a way of getting weird fast =P
[08:28] <DJHenjin> should i encrypt the home directory?
[08:28] <Nobgul-BNC> If you want to .
[08:28] <prabhakar> it contains tar.gz
[08:28] <DJHenjin> i dont think i really need to
[08:28] <Nobgul-BNC> If someone gains access to the pc and its encrypted then it will be harder for them to get at the files.
[08:28] <DJHenjin> i wont really be usint /home
[08:28] <kiichiro> For control+alt+F2 what username/password do I use for it?
[08:29] <DJHenjin> but it will slow down performance
[08:29] <Nobgul-BNC> For me in a server enviro the only thing that i have in /home are install's
[08:29] <Nobgul-BNC> and or .tar.gz files
[08:29] <DJHenjin> exactly
[08:29] <DJHenjin> im not puttins sensitive data in /home
[08:29] <tsimpson> kiichiro: yours, it's just text login
[08:30] <DJHenjin> woot configuring apt
[08:30] <prabhakar> broswer folder where i find
[08:30] <Nobgul-BNC> prabhakar, Internet browser and or your website root?
[08:30] <DJHenjin> this thing should run pretty darned fast when its done compared to windoze right?
[08:30] <Nobgul-BNC> Yes it should
[08:31] <Nobgul-BNC> Personally i never run 64 bit anything. Even this home pc i run 32 bit
[08:31] <Nobgul-BNC> prabhakar, If you are looking for something you can drop into a terminal window and type whereis "program"
[08:31] <DJHenjin> now i have 3 choices, no automatic updates, install security updates automaticall, or manage system with landscape?
[08:31] <prabhakar> can you tell commands to install install_flash_player_10_linux.tr.gz
[08:32] <DJHenjin> im guessing install security updates automatically?
[08:32] <Nobgul-BNC> I would.
[08:32] <Nobgul-BNC> I mean updatig is not that difficult
[08:32] <Nobgul-BNC> updating
[08:32] <connormckenna> a
[08:32] <DJHenjin> okay, obviously install LAMP but what other packages should i install?
[08:32] <crypticsquared> hrm seem to have the launcher in unity stuck. ie it's not autohiding
[08:32] <Nobgul-BNC> I would not
[08:33] <DJHenjin> probably samba
[08:33] <Nobgul-BNC> If you are going to use a web based control panel
[08:33] <Nobgul-BNC> i would let it install lamp
[08:33] <Nobgul-BNC> As it will configure it and you dont have to muk around
[08:33] <DJHenjin> well yeah, ill be installing lamp
[08:33] <DJHenjin> and samba
[08:33] <Nobgul-BNC> What i mean is
[08:33] <Nobgul-BNC> Are you going to to use webmin or shcp?
[08:33] <Nobgul-BNC> ehcp
[08:34] <DJHenjin> ehcp
[08:34] <Nobgul-BNC> then do not install lamp
[08:34] <Nobgul-BNC> it will install it for you
[08:34] <Nobgul-BNC> and configure everything.
[08:34] <DJHenjin> k
[08:34] <prabhakar> webmin
[08:34] <Nobgul-BNC> I would do samba.
[08:34] <DJHenjin> so, if im running minecraft which is java should i install tomcat java server?
[08:34] <Nobgul-BNC> no you need the reg sunos one
[08:34] <DJHenjin> vmm host?
[08:35] <Nobgul-BNC> >_<
[08:35] <DJHenjin> oh come on, im a windows server user,
[08:35] <Nobgul-BNC> lol
[08:35] <Nobgul-BNC> I don't think i installed it
[08:35] <DJHenjin> is there a native MySQL for ubuntu? or do i need postgresql
[08:36] <Nobgul-BNC> but i can't think of what it is either
[08:36] <jahkop> Is ubuntu ever going to upgrade to gnome 3?
[08:36] <Nobgul-BNC> there is mysql but that will install with lamp
[08:36] <Nobgul-BNC> when you do ehcp
[08:36] <DJHenjin> oh yeah
[08:36] <Nobgul-BNC> i almost want to say vmn is a vmware thing
[08:36] <DJHenjin> so just mail server and samba then, what about manual package selection?
[08:36] <Nobgul-BNC> nope
[08:36] <Nobgul-BNC> no mail server
[08:36] <Nobgul-BNC> ehcp will handle that
[08:36] <DJHenjin> vm host is for virtual machines yeah
[08:37] <DJHenjin> so just samba then
[08:37] <Nobgul-BNC> Yea anything else you need later you can add easilyt
[08:37] <tsimpson> you can install mysql without lamp...
[08:37] <Dragonster82> i need help guys
[08:38] <Nobgul-BNC> and or you can let ehcp install it and configure it
[08:38] <Dragonster82> When i run Ubuntu startup disk, it gives me error, "prefix" is not set
[08:38] <prabhakar> i installed xp using virtual box but xp not recognize pendrives
[08:38] <DJHenjin> ill let ehcp install lamp
[08:38] <bogomooo> what
[08:38] <Dragonster82> Guys
[08:38] <DJHenjin> are you passing the drives to virtualbox?
[08:38] <Dragonster82> my motherboard is msi motherboard v-class
[08:38] <Dragonster82> it dont have a startup disk button, so i had to use the third option, but it gives me "PRefix" is not set
[08:39] <novitololo> I'm running Gnome sensors-applet and I see temp1 and temp2 sensors, but I don't know what they represent.  Is there a way to know what those sensors mean (GPU, HDD..)?
[08:39] <prabhakar> udragonster82 ,u can put os cd in cd rom and try it
[08:39] <Dragonster82> I tried it already
[08:39] <Dragonster82> Lol
[08:39] <Dragonster82> my motherboard doesnt have the "boot cd" option during startup
[08:40] <Dragonster82> Anyone?
[08:40] <Nobgul-BNC> umm
[08:40] <kiichiro> go into your cmos editor
[08:40] <shinobilord> lotuspsychje: done! Cube is back up including all the other snazzy window switchers in 11.04. No need for a complete re-install. Just a matter of configuring compiz and using "compiz --replace". Not straigthforward but definitely doable! :)
[08:40] <Nobgul-BNC> how old is the computer?
[08:40] <DJHenjin> BIOS
[08:40] <Dragonster82> Yeah
[08:40] <Dragonster82> BIOS then?
[08:40] <Dragonster82> My computer doesnt have anything to do with it
[08:40] <Dragonster82> lol
[08:40] <Dragonster82> I recently bought a new motherboard
[08:40] <Dragonster82> thats what.
[08:40] <FloodBot1> Dragonster82: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:40] <Nobgul-BNC> of course it does.
[08:41] <Nobgul-BNC> Set your bios to boot from cd first.
[08:41] <Dragonster82> oh ok thnx Nobgul
[08:41] <Dragonster82> Which CD though?
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> shinobilord: cool i will try it also later on cheers mate : )
[08:41] <Nobgul-BNC> There should also be a hotkey to hit a boot menu
[08:41] <Dragonster82> lol
[08:41] <Dragonster82> I knw
[08:41] <Dragonster82> delete
[08:41] <kiichiro> mine is nice, will auto boot from HDD unless it detects a CD than it will ask me
[08:41] <FloodBot1> Dragonster82: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:41] <Dragonster82> is the hotkey
[08:41] <kiichiro> otherwise won't annoy me at all with it
[08:41] <prabhakar> xp or any image file cd
[08:41] <Dragonster82> Lol kkkkkkk
[08:41] <Dragonster82> good for u kiichiro, im jealous ( LOL) )
[08:42] <Dragonster82> im gunna try it now, thnx guys
[08:42] <DJHenjin> oh crap "device for boot loader installation" ???
[08:42] <celthunder> DJHenjin: usually /dev/sda
[08:42] <DJHenjin> im using raid...
[08:42] <DJHenjin> software raid
[08:42] <tsimpson> novitololo: not really, but if there are only 2 one will be CPU temp and one will be case temp, the highest will be CPU
[08:42] <bogomooo> hey
[08:43] <DJHenjin> and i cant remember what it called the raid device
[08:43] <DJHenjin> probably /dev/raid0
[08:43] <novitololo> tsimpson: I have a dual core, and I can see those temperatures as Core0, Core1.  I have two extras called temp1, temp2...
[08:43] <Nobgul-BNC> should still be sda sdb sdc
[08:43] <DJHenjin> one physical drive was sdb and the other sdc
[08:43] <DJHenjin> any way i can find out without restarting the entire install?
[08:44] <DJHenjin> or should i leave it as what it put in, '/dev/md'
[08:44] <Nobgul-BNC> yer its md
[08:45] <DJHenjin> so leave it as is then
[08:45] <Nobgul-BNC> yea it cant hurt it
[08:45] <DJHenjin> execution 'grub-install /dev/md' failed
[08:45] <Nobgul-BNC> try md0
[08:45] <bogomooo> testing
[08:46] <bogomooo> hey
[08:46] <ChronicSyncope> hi
[08:46] <DJHenjin> frick
[08:47] <DJHenjin> not md0 not raid0
[08:47] <Nobgul-BNC> did you try sda1
[08:47] <DJHenjin> what if its not the raid array?
[08:47] <prabhakar> in ubuntu 10.10 suddenly sound collapsed what can i do
[08:48] <DJHenjin> sda1 is probably the USB drive im booting off of
[08:48] <Nobgul-BNC> Without being able to drop to a prompt to check im not sure how to tell
[08:49] <ChronicSyncope> prabhakar, collapsed? have you tried restarting?
[08:49] <Nobgul-BNC> And I don't think that the usb drive whould show up as a mount point. esp not sda1
[08:49] <prabhakar> yes when sound is closed i restart system its verry big task
[08:50] <DJHenjin> i get to a menu after grub install fails, where i can drop to a shell,
[08:50] <DJHenjin> Nobgul-BNC the USB is hard drive emulated
[08:50] <Nobgul-BNC> I figured that after i typed.
[08:50] <bullgard4> 'Why does the mc file viewer (F3 key) in my Lucid computer not show the keywords of a program text colorfully? But my Natty's mc does.
[08:50] <Nobgul-BNC> My motherboard does the same thing.
[08:51] <Nobgul-BNC> well if it thinks sda is the usb then sdb would be the next physical drive
[08:51] <DJHenjin> yeah
[08:51] <DJHenjin> the sdc
[08:51] <DJHenjin> then*
[08:51] <msx78> hi
[08:51] <prabhakar> chronicsyncope help me
[08:52] <DJHenjin> so what, should i try sdd?
[08:52] <Nobgul-BNC> if you have to drop to a prompt fdisk -l
[08:52] <Nobgul-BNC> will tell u the drives
[08:52] <Guest63597> hello all
[08:52] <msx78> is there a way to use Xvesa instead of Xorg?
[08:53] <DJHenjin> bloody hell, it should be /dev/md0, but /dev/md0 doesnt contain a valid partition table
[08:53] <bullgard4> !ask | Guest63597
[08:53] <DJHenjin> well, nether does /dev/md1
[08:53] <Guest63597> let me know
[08:54] <Guest63597> dev/md1 shoud work
[08:54] <DJHenjin> yeah but /dev/md1 is swap
[08:54] <Guest63597> by the way anybody here knows dj stolen ?
[08:54] <DJHenjin> and doesnt have a valid partition table either
[08:55] <DJHenjin> now i really need help
[08:56] <Guest63597> i need help with vpn
[08:56] <Guest63597> not working at all
[08:56] <msx78> Is it possible to use Xvesa instead of Xorg? how can I set it up?
[08:57] <lukafulmine> Xvesa no,but vesa yes
[08:57] <msx78> well
[08:57] <msx78> anything but Xorg will work
[08:57] <DJHenjin> can anyone help me figure this out?
[08:57] <lukafulmine> you can set it from /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:57] <Guest63597> hey i need a ride to new york anybody heading that way soon?
[08:58] <bullgard4> !enter | DJHenjin
[08:58] <msx78> the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesn't exist, I'm running Ubuntu 11.04
[08:58] <Guest63597> natty
[08:58] <Guest63597> sucks
[08:59] <Guest63597> lots of bugs
[08:59] <bullgard4> Guest63597: Stop trolling.
[08:59] <Guest63597> ok
[08:59] <lukafulmine> msx78 you have to do : gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and modify in this string (  Section "Device" --- Identifier "Videocard0" ----- Driver "vesa")
[08:59] <Guest63597> any review for bt5?
[08:59] <cypha> Can I search within files?
[08:59] <cypha> text files
[09:00] <llutz_> cypha: use grep
[09:00] <msx78> lukafulmine: if the file doesn't exist, create and saving it in that path, will work?
[09:00] <cypha> I want a query of all files that say “*myproject.views*
[09:00] <cypha> “
[09:00] <cypha> within the text of the file
[09:01] <DJHenjin> im attempting to setup software raid1 in ubuntu server 11.04, i got to the point where it wanted me to install grub2 onto a disk. /dev/md0 being my ext4 partition for the software raid is what i tried, grub failed to install to it, so i dropped to a shell and listed all my drives, at which point i found out /dev/md0 (ext4) and /dev/md1 (swap) both do not have a valid partition table, how fix?
[09:01] <lukafulmine> no, because in default there is this file, try to search it, (different name???)
[09:01] <SmokeyD> hey everyone. How do I mark a set of packages in the update manager that should not be upgraded? Ubuntu wants to upgrade my firefox to FF5 all the time, but I don't want that (yet) due to incompatible plugins. But the update manager keeps suggesting the update
[09:01] <Dogears> Any idea why my CD/DVD is showing as floppy0?
[09:02] <lukafulmine> msx78 this is the guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[09:03] <msx78> thank you
[09:03] <DJHenjin> better bullgard4 ?
[09:03] <jtannenbaum> how would I wget something like http://www.djangoproject.com/download/1.3/tarball/ where it isn't the direct file
[09:03] <jtannenbaum> it just starts the download
[09:04] <lukafulmine> msx78 all ok?
[09:04] <bullgard4> DJHenjin: Yes.
[09:04] <DJHenjin> im just going to abort the install and start from fsck'ing scratch
[09:05] <msx78> I'm going to read the guide and test, I'll be back in a while ^^
[09:06] <lukafulmine> msx78 ok
[09:06] <cypha> llutz_, when I use --> grep “term” , I get no results
[09:06] <cypha> I have to press ctrl+c to get the command prompt back
[09:07] <rams_pandu> How can I know the port number on which mysql is running?
[09:07] <DJHenjin> probably default rams_pandu
[09:07] <llutz_> cypha: grep searchpattern file
[09:07] <cypha> i dont know what kind of file it’s in
[09:07] <llutz_> rams_pandu:3306 default
[09:07] <rams_pandu> DJHenjin, what is the default value?
[09:07] <rams_pandu> llutz, thank you.
[09:07] <cypha> llutz_, is that required?
[09:08] <llutz_> rams_pandu: sudo lsof -i
[09:08] <rams_pandu> DJHenjin, thank you
[09:09] <llutz_> cypha: grep "myproject.views" *
[09:09] <joseph_> hello
[09:09] <llutz_> cypha: "man grep" for more usefull options
[09:10] <bullgard4> Why does the mc file viewer (F3 key) in my Lucid computer not show the keywords of a program text colorfully? But my Natty's mc does.
[09:11] <DJHenjin> im trying to install to software raid 1 on ubuntu 110.6 64 bit server edition,, im new to this and need help
[09:11] <DJHenjin> 11.04 sorry
[09:11] <theadmin> bullgard4: Well, Natty probably has a newer mc version with some cool features
[09:11] <bullgard4> theadmin: Yes.
[09:11] <cypha> thanks llutz_
[09:11] <cypha> :)
[09:12] <Airris> well that plan failed entirely.  maybe someone new is around that can help : I have source code for a version of a library newer than what's in the repositories. I want to install it without having to remove the hundreds of dependencies the old library has. Not breaking half of the system in doing this would be nice too :P
[09:12] <DJHenjin> will i be able to get help with this issue or should i expect to be patronized because im not using automatic partitioning
[09:12] <d_atharva> hi....my ubuntu one account need to be connected manually after every startup.is there any way so that Ubuntu one can start synchronisation automatically ?
[09:12] <tarzeau> how can i remove/disable the "shut down computer" in unity (natty)?
[09:13] <mgolisch> Airris: install it into some custom prefix?
[09:13] <petrolman> d_atharva, is your auto user login enabled?
[09:13] <Airris> mgolisch : will the programs hunting for this newer version still be able to find it?
[09:14] <d_atharva> petrolman : I dont know ...how to chek for it ?
[09:14] <theadmin> Airris: How about dpkg --no-force-deps -P that_library ?
[09:14] <petrolman> d_atharva, do you need to enter a password at startup ob Ubuntu ?
[09:14] <mgolisch> Airris:youll mostlikely have to  write a startscript that changes LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[09:15] <mgolisch> thats how i would do it, that way it does not affect any of the system installed stuff
[09:16] <Airris> theadmin, what will that do? hunting for --no-force-deps in the man pages
[09:16] <Airris> haven't found it yet
[09:16] <byomkeshbakshi> I have installed Ubuntu 11.04 on a virtual box on WindowsXP. I am trying to setup ssh port forwarding but the command just hangs and nothing happens. After a while I get connection time out. ssh -L8000:localhost:8000 server.com -N What could be the reason?
[09:16] <theadmin> Airris: It's for ignoring dependencies if I recall right
[09:16] <theadmin> Airris: err, sorry, it's --no-force-depends
[09:17] <theadmin> Airris: Or, there is --ignore-depends
[09:18] <theadmin> Airris: Not sure which of these does what *exactly*, cause the only package manager I have near me is pacman, not dpkg
[09:19] <DJHenjin> well then, i guess it was pointless to think i could get any help
[09:20] <Airris> theadmin, ok let me experiment with this a bit, there's the --simulate option for me to try before ripping this system to pieces :D
[09:20] <Airris> since i'm replacing libjpeg. a crapton of applications are going to go boom if i get this wrong
[09:23] <llutz_> Airris: if your version is newer than the repos one, it shouldn't break anything. build a deb with correct version numbering. most packages depend on libs "version xxx or higher"
[09:23] <king42> net split  :)
[09:24] <Airris> llutz, what won't break anything ? I'm still not entirely sure what i'm supposed to be doing here. Trying to remove libjpeg62 and install libjpeg8c from source in commandline was the best idea i had. If something simplier would work that'd be great
[09:25] <snoeman> How do I make keyring log me in automatically at startup. I am using ubuntu 11.04
[09:25] <theadmin> !checkinstall | Airris
[09:25] <Airris> yea i know about that part :) Just do i need to uninstall the old library before doing that?
[09:25] <theadmin> Airris: If the package is named the same, actually not
[09:26] <mark_scz> how can i migrate from an encrypted folder to a non-encrypted folder
[09:26] <mgolisch> srsly dudes, why dont you just compile it by hand and write a startscript for that app that needs the newer lib?
[09:27] <Airris> theadmin, how would i find out if they're the same?
[09:27] <theadmin> Airris: Err... Specify the package name as the same one as one you have installed when checkinstall'ing
[09:27] <llutz_> Airris: they aren't libjpeg62 != libjpeg8c
[09:28] <Kartagis> what's this called? http://render.groupon-content.net/farm/v1/barcode/qrcode/base64url/aHR0cDovL3d3dy5ncm91cG9uLXBhcnRuZXIuY29tL3JlZGVlbS9Ra016TkRJeU1EUkJRZy9PVGN6THprM05EYy8zOTU0MTMvMTQxNDUwMDk/150/150.png
[09:28] <ikonia> a url ?
[09:28] <DJHenjin> installing ubuntu server 11.04 64 bit, on software raid. manually partitioned disks, creating md0 (ext4) and md1 (swap), trying to install grub2 fails. drop to shell in install menu, run fdisk -l and shows /dev/md0 and /dev/md1 both missing valid partition table, this is second attempt to install. getting frustrated
[09:28] <llutz_> linkspam?
[09:28] <Kartagis> I mean the image type
[09:28] <theadmin> Kartagis: A QR code
[09:29] <Kartagis> hmm, thanks
[09:29] <ikonia> Kartagis: is that anything to do with ubuntu
[09:29] <ikonia> DJHenjin: do they have partition tables ?
[09:29] <Kartagis> no
[09:29] <ikonia> Kartagis: ok, so please keep the non-ubuntu stuff out please.
[09:30] <DJHenjin> theay are showing as not having valid partition tables
[09:30] <ikonia> DJHenjin: that's the problem then
[09:30] <DJHenjin> nooo really,i thought it was because they're in something i own
[09:31] <ikonia> DJHenjin: sorry what ?
[09:31] <DJHenjin> nothing i own ever fricking works properly, even when i set it up according to guides online
[09:31] <ikonia> DJHenjin: did you create a partition layout on the meta devices ?
[09:32] <ikonia> DJHenjin: what guide are you following ?
[09:32] <DJHenjin> tried this one first
[09:32] <DJHenjin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[09:33] <Airris> llutz, theadmin : just to make sure you two aren't disagreeing, so the checkinstall thing will work if i masquerade this new package as the old one's name?
[09:33] <snoeman> Can I ask again. How do make keyring log me in automatically at startup on 11.04
[09:33] <sukhi1> RVD
[09:33] <sukhi1> yo yo yo
[09:33] <ikonia> DJHenjin: ok , let me have a quick look at that, but did you actually create a partition table on the meta devices ?
[09:33] <DJHenjin> IDK
[09:33] <DJHenjin> im new to this stuff
[09:33] <theadmin> Airris: Better listen to llutz_, (s)he's a regular here and IIRC an op too
[09:33] <sukhi1> ok
[09:33] <DJHenjin> i setup md0 as ext4
[09:34] <theadmin> Airris: I'm not even an Ubuntu user xD
[09:34] <Airris> XD
[09:34] <ikonia> DJHenjin: ok - so think of it logcially, a raid disk is just a virtual disk, made up of multiple disks. Can you install to a disk without a partition (and partition table) ?
[09:34] <DJHenjin> i know that
[09:34] <llutz_> Airris: that won't work with apps expecting libjpeg8c. better listen to mgolisch :)
[09:34] <DJHenjin> im new to ubuntu, not computers
[09:34] <ikonia> DJHenjin: oh, if you know all this, then you should be able to figure it out - bye
[09:34] <llutz_> theadmin: i'm not :)
[09:34] <theadmin> llutz_: Not what?
[09:34] <llutz_> theadmin: op
[09:35] <theadmin> llutz_: Oh okay, you totally look like one though xD
[09:35] <Airris> mgolisch, ok... looks like everyone just agreed startup script is the way to go. how do i do that?
[09:35] <llutz_> theadmin:nope, channel would be nearly empty if i were :) </ot>
[09:35] <theadmin> llutz_: looool
[09:35] <amit2011> hii
[09:36] <DJHenjin> there people go again patronizing me because im new to linux
[09:36] <amit2011> any1 knows how I can find the MBR?
[09:36] <ikonia> DJHenjin: no - because you're telling me you know this
[09:36] <theadmin> amit2011: Sorry, WUT?
[09:36] <ikonia> DJHenjin: when you're installing what raid level are you using ? 0, 1, 5 etc
[09:36] <amit2011> I need to install BURG
[09:36] <DJHenjin> when did i tell you that, i said i know how raid works and that you need a partition table to install anything
[09:36] <ikonia> amit2011: I don't you "need" BURG
[09:36] <DJHenjin>  raid 1
[09:37] <theadmin> llutz_: May I pm you for a sec? I want to wonder why would the channel be "empty"
[09:37] <amit2011> It says to specify the partition to install burg
[09:37] <ikonia> DJHenjin: ok so in the installer it tells you to select "manual" for the partition layout, did you select manual ?
[09:37] <DJHenjin> yes
[09:37] <ikonia> DJHenjin: did you create partitions ?
[09:37] <sukhi1> r u real dj?
[09:37] <ikonia> !topic > sukhi1
[09:37] <llutz_> theadmin: sure
[09:38] <DJHenjin> on the physical disks, yes
[09:38] <sukhi1> yes
[09:38] <ikonia> DJHenjin: no - on the raid disk - the meta device
[09:38] <sukhi1> i have read
[09:38] <ikonia> DJHenjin: as that's where you are installing, to the meta device
[09:38] <DJHenjin> theres no option to do that anywhere
[09:39] <m01x> l
[09:39] <ikonia> DJHenjin: ok - so just so I'm clear are you doing individual partitions on the disks converted to raid meta devices, or are you doing a whole disk as a raid device, then partitioning the raid device
[09:39] <mallet`> Hi. How can I have wicd start at boot? I removed networkmanager and installed wicd and wicd-daemon (using apt-get). But at the moment, I need to start wicd manually: sudo service wicd start.
[09:40] <DJHenjin> i folowed the guide i linked EXACTLY
[09:40] <ikonia> DJHenjin: ok - so that explains why they have no partition tables, as the meta devices you've created are partitions of the disks themselves
[09:41] <ikonia> DJHenjin: am I correct in thinking your problems is that you're trying to install grub / fix grub ?
[09:41] <DJHenjin> install grub
[09:41] <pksadiq> mallet`: might be sudo update-rc.d wicd enable
[09:41] <DJHenjin> htis is a fresh install
[09:41] <ikonia> DJHenjin: what command are you doing to install grub ?
[09:41] <DJHenjin> the ubuntu 11.04 server installer ISO
[09:42] <ikonia> DJHenjin: yes, but that's not worked so what are you doing to fix it
[09:42] <DJHenjin> nothing because im new to ubuntu
[09:42] <ikonia> DJHenjin: ok - if you look in the guide you quoted me, it gives you an example of a common grub problem and it's resolution
[09:43] <DJHenjin> which says its fixed in 9.10 and should stand to reason that its fixed in 11.04
[09:43] <mallet`> pksadiq: sounds good. wicd appers in sysv-rc-conf after the command you gave. Thanks!
[09:43] <ikonia> DJHenjin: it doesn't always work depending on your layout and your hardware
[09:44] <pksadiq> mallet`: np ;)
[09:44] <go8765_o> hello. can i find in ubuntu something like Dragonfly but with canceled option?
[09:45] <DJHenjin> i tried #grub-install /dev/sdb #grub-install /dev/sdc  and it didnt do anything
[09:45] <ikonia> DJHenjin: are your disks called /dev/sdb and /dev/sdc ?
[09:46] <DJHenjin> the physical disks yes
[09:46] <ikonia> DJHenjin: ah, so you don't have an sda
[09:46] <DJHenjin> sda would be the USB that im booted off of,
[09:47] <joppan> helo ...my wpa/wpa2 doesnot connect automaitcally in ubuntu 10.10
[09:47] <ikonia> DJHenjin: ahhhh you're botting off a usb, did you install from the usb ?
[09:47] <DJHenjin> im attempting to install off the USB
[09:47] <king42> DJHenjin:  try fdisk -l en use pastebin so ikonia can help you
[09:47] <joppan> i have to manually connect to my wifi network each time i log in
[09:47] <ikonia> DJHenjin: that may explain why grub didn't get installed correctly
[09:48] <joppan> anyone out please help
[09:48] <prabhakar> hello for all
[09:48] <ikonia> DJHenjin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub
[09:48] <DJHenjin> how am i supposed to pastebin something from an install?
[09:48] <ikonia> DJHenjin: that will tell you how to re-apply grub to the mbr of your disks, keep in mind you want to apply it to /dev/sdb and /dev/sdc - not a
[09:49] <ikonia> DJHenjin: also keep in mind you want to reference physical disks, not the meta disk, as that's not assembled at this point in time
[09:49] <maahes> I'm getting a nasty crash from nautilus whenever I try and do anything involving an external drive, it seems the nautilus-gdu extension is crashing, I'm running a fully updated natty
[09:49] <prabhakar> some  times my  mouse tucch pad hang out whic s/w i want to be install
[09:50]  * Airris headdesks. 
[09:50] <joppan> how toupdate nautilus to 3.0.2 form 2.30.2 on my ubuntu 10.10
[09:50] <Airris> well thanks everyone, it turns out the problem might be something other than this in the first place
[09:51] <maahes> it attempts to do it the first time, and then summons up an infinite number of additional nautiluses, after I manage to kill them all, nautilus crashes after trying to load nautilus-gdu and gives this error  http://pastebin.com/GjdjY9Sk
[09:51] <Airris> that'd be good news in a sense that it's still looking like getting libjpeg8 working might be annoying
[09:51] <DJHenjin> not working
[09:51] <ikonia> DJHenjin: you can't have done it that quick - you can't have read that document
[09:52] <prabhakar>   joppen:  just type on terminal what u want install ubuntu automaticall updated
[09:52] <DJHenjin> its called reading fast, or speedreading. some people reach speeds in excess of 1000 words per minute with comprehension of more than 90%
[09:52] <ikonia> DJHenjin: you need comprehension %100
[09:52] <ikonia> DJHenjin: what is the problem, what makes you think it's not working
[09:52] <DJHenjin> of more than 90% includes 100%
[09:52] <Airris> actually wait : one last question : llutz : out of curiosity, what would happen if i just tried to checkinstall libjpeg8 to standard location? Would it override the older library safely, give me an error and refuse, or just plain break everything?
[09:53] <joppan> prabhakar: says natutilus is uptodate
[09:53] <joppan> i want to upgrade to 3.0.2
[09:53] <llutz_> Airris: i don't know for sure, it might overwrite parts of the old version
[09:54] <Airris> llutz, hmm. would dpkg know how to revert it if i uninstalled it afterwords?
[09:54] <llutz_> Airris: it should if the deb is ok
[09:54] <DJHenjin> screw it, if its going to be this stupidly complex to get any help at all ill just keep using windows
[09:54] <Airris> llutz, and there's a way to forcibly just reinstall the older package over itself if that doesnt work, right?
[09:55]  * Airris is thinking about trying this out and seeing if it works
[09:55] <ikonia> DJHenjin: ok,
[09:55] <llutz_> Airris: yes
[09:55] <Airris> yay! experiment time
[09:56] <Airris> well i'm heading off for the night, going to try doing this. if it doesn't work. ah well.
[09:56] <Airris> thanks llutz
[09:56] <DJHenjin> there has to be an easier way to do this
[09:57] <ikonia> DJHenjin: that is the method if the auto installer doesn't work
[09:57] <DJHenjin> no that is the method if theres an existing grub installed and you can boot INTO ubuntu
[09:58] <ikonia> DJHenjin: no it's not, it is the method of re-applying grub if grub is not working
[09:58] <DJHenjin> which i kinda cant do because it requires to be booted into a live CD
[09:58] <ikonia> DJHenjin: you have a usb
[09:58] <DJHenjin> i cant abort the install before its finished
[09:59] <ikonia> DJHenjin: ah, so the install hasn't finished
[09:59] <DJHenjin> no it hasnt
[09:59] <ikonia> DJHenjin: let the install complete and resolve problems afterwards
[09:59] <DJHenjin> i need to install grub from the installer before i can continue
[09:59] <ikonia> DJHenjin: in the installer where are you telling it to install grub ?
[09:59] <DJHenjin> into /dev/md
[09:59] <ikonia> DJHenjin: also where are you running the commands I asked you to run that you said don't work if you're in the installer ?
[10:00] <Evanescence> ubuntu-docs is the project that pressing F1 to view ? I want to remove it, because its F1 is conflict with my key bindings . Can I ?
[10:00] <DJHenjin> the ubuntu installer menu has a shell you can execute
[10:00] <ikonia> DJHenjin: ok - as I said earlier you don't install to /dev/md
[10:00] <ikonia> DJHenjin: you need a physical DISK as the meta devices are mirrors of the partitions
[10:00] <DJHenjin> ive trid sdb sdc sdb0 sdc0
[10:01] <ikonia> DJHenjin: grub should go onto /dev/sdb (for the master boot record) and point at /dev/sdb(number) where your /boot directory is stored
[10:01] <DJHenjin> raid...
[10:01] <ikonia> DJHenjin: raid what ?
[10:01] <prabhakar> how can i create cloud with my system
[10:01] <ikonia> prabhakar: how many systems do you have ?
[10:01] <DJHenjin> grub has to be on both disks in the raid 1
[10:01] <prabhakar> 4 systems
[10:01] <ikonia> DJHenjin: yes, but you can deal with that after - put it on /dev/sdb to boot the machine
[10:02] <ikonia> DJHenjin: the installer should put it onto it's sister disk foryou
[10:02] <Nickless> Hey guys, I tried to copy a file to a folder, but it says "Error opening file '/usr/share/irssi/themes/screwer.png': Permission denied", and when i open the folder with "sudo nautilus" it says "Operation not supported", so what can I do about it?
[10:02] <ikonia> prabhakar: there is the ubuntu cloud components, have you checked them out ?
[10:02] <rnimeio> hello
[10:02] <prabhakar> wher i can check
[10:02] <DJHenjin> unable to install GRUB in /dev/sdb
[10:02] <ikonia> prabhakar: they have specific requirements though, so make sure you check out the details properly
[10:02] <ikonia> DJHenjin: does it give any more info in the other virtual terminals ?
[10:03] <pksadiq> !cloud
[10:03] <DJHenjin> ikonia what exactly do you mean?
[10:03] <rnimeio> so many body here  who can response me
[10:03] <ikonia> DJHenjin: I mean do you have any more information than that one line, look in the other virtual terminals for more info
[10:03] <DJHenjin> virtual terminal?
[10:03] <ikonia> DJHenjin: alt+f3 / f4
[10:03] <prabhakar> no mam now i am beginner to create cloud
[10:04] <rnimeio> virtual box?
[10:04] <DJHenjin> oh my
[10:04] <Nickless> Hey guys, I tried to copy a file to a folder, but it says "Error opening file '/usr/share/irssi/themes/screwer.png': Permission denied", and when i open the folder with "sudo nautilus" from terminal, it says "Operation not supported", so what can I do about it? Help??
[10:04] <rnimeio> prabhakar:why?
[10:04] <ikonia> Nickless: gksudo nautilus
[10:04] <DJHenjin> ikonia definately more info
[10:04] <Nickless> gksudo? what's that?
[10:05] <prabhakar> virtual box its supports multiple operating system
[10:05] <ikonia> Nickless: the command you use to launch gui apps as root (not sudo)
[10:05] <dr-lee> hi
[10:05] <DJHenjin> 'error: Runing 'grub-install --no-floppr --force "/dev/sdb" failed'
[10:05] <Nickless> Oh, thank you, ikonia  ^^
[10:06] <ikonia> DJHenjin: if you do "fdisk -l /dev/sdb" in the console, what do you see
[10:06] <Nickless> It still says ''Operation not supported''
[10:06] <ikonia> Nickless: where is this file kept ?
[10:06] <DJHenjin> ikonia, which part?
[10:07] <Nickless> ~/.irssi/
[10:07] <Nickless> "~/.irssi/themes" actually
[10:07] <ikonia> DJHenjin: does it sow you the partitions ?
[10:07] <DJHenjin> yes
[10:07] <ikonia> DJHenjin: how many partitions does it have ?
[10:08] <DJHenjin> 3, sdb1 sdb2 sdb5
[10:08] <ikonia> Nickless: open a terminal and type "ls -la /usr/share/irssi/themes/screwer.png"
[10:08] <ikonia> DJHenjin: are those partition types listed as raid/autodetect ?
[10:08] <DJHenjin> 1&5 are yes, 2 is extended
[10:09] <wsagent> hi therere
[10:09] <ikonia> ok, that's pertty reasonable
[10:09] <DJHenjin> wait a tick sdb2 occupies the same space as sdb5
[10:09] <evdvelde> Hi all, is there a way to make sure interfaces have an IP address when networking is started? Thus networking service waiting for DHCP replies before proceeding?
[10:09] <Nickless> Kay, thnks
[10:09] <ikonia> DJHenjin: it will do because sb2 is an extended partition and sdb5 is inside that extended partition
[10:10] <DJHenjin> ah okay
[10:10] <ikonia> evdvelde: dhclient already does that unless it hits the time out
[10:10] <d_atharva> petrolman : thanks..its working now....
[10:10] <ikonia> DJHenjin: I can't see a reason why you can't apply to sdb from the information you've given me
[10:10] <Nickless> Umm, ikonia, screwer.png is not in the folder, I want to save it there,but it's not there.
[10:10] <Nickless> Yet
[10:10] <shinobilord> I've searched high and low but still can't find out how to "properly" disconnect from ssh. Any ideas?
[10:11] <evdvelde> ikonia: by default? we tried it but even when putting condor in rc.local, it was aborted because no ip address was already available
[10:11] <bullgard4> Why does the mc file viewer (F3 key) in my Lucid computer not show the keywords of a program text colorfully? But my Natty's mc does.
[10:11] <ikonia> DJHenjin: if you scroll back in the installer and select "don't install a boot loader" I can help you apply grub afterwards
[10:11] <ikonia> Nickless: so that's why you are getting an error -it's not there
[10:11] <DJHenjin> okay
[10:11] <ikonia> bullgard4: later version, enchancments ?
[10:12] <Nickless> Nah, I get those errors when I try to save it there.
[10:12] <DJHenjin> alright fully installed
[10:12] <ikonia> Nickless: just do "sudo cp /home/.irssi/file /usr/share/whereever/file
[10:12] <ikonia> DJHenjin: out of interest, try to boot it - see what it says
[10:12] <DJHenjin> yeah im trying
[10:13] <Nickless> cp: cannot stat `/home/.irssi/file': No such file or directory
[10:13] <llutz_> shinobilord: quit from ssh? ctrl-d or type exit
[10:13] <ikonia> Nickless: oh come on - you know the name of your own file - it was an example
[10:13] <Nickless> O man
[10:13] <Nickless> Lol
[10:14] <DJHenjin> ikonia zip zilch nada zero
[10:14] <shinobilord> llutz_: cheers dude. Those only close ur current session but don't force you to re-enter ur passphrase/password on next ssh session
[10:14] <ikonia> DJHenjin: no error ?
[10:14] <DJHenjin> no error but no worky
[10:14] <ikonia> DJHenjin: black screen ?
[10:15] <DJHenjin> one minute, it didnt get past BMC setup
[10:15] <DJHenjin> well,
[10:15] <DJHenjin> yeah nothing, the POST stuff is left on screen and it goes to a newline
[10:16] <llutz_> shinobilord: restart ssh-agent (just a guess)
[10:16] <ikonia> DJHenjin: just give it a minute, if it times out the error can be useful
[10:16] <DJHenjin> waiting patiently
[10:16] <ikonia> DJHenjin: did you install from the server CD ?
[10:17] <DJHenjin> the server ISO put on a USB according to the instructions on the DOWNLOAD SITE
[10:17] <shinobilord> llutz_: I'll put that one on the list :)
[10:17] <ikonia> DJHenjin: or the desktop cd ?
[10:17] <DJHenjin> server
[10:17] <ikonia> DJHenjin: any reason you didn't use the desktop cd ?
[10:17] <DJHenjin> because its a fricking server
[10:17] <ikonia> DJHenjin: so ?
[10:17] <martin__> am unable to install skype
[10:17] <ikonia> DJHenjin: you said you are new to linux the desktop CD makes an excellent server plus is easier to deal with for people who are new to Linux
[10:17] <DJHenjin> server ISO installed on physical Dell server = better
[10:18] <martin__> how do i install?
[10:18] <ikonia> DJHenjin: no it's not ?
[10:18] <ikonia> DJHenjin: why do you think that ?
[10:18] <DJHenjin> ive used ubuntu before, but not ubuntu server
[10:18] <ikonia> DJHenjin: ok - so why do you think the server install is better on a dell server ?
[10:18] <DJHenjin> because it doesnt have the GUI which can use up resources that are needed for other things
[10:18] <DJHenjin> plus less bloatware
[10:18] <ikonia> DJHenjin: you can shut the gui off
[10:18] <ikonia> DJHenjin: no it's not
[10:18] <ikonia> wow
[10:19] <ikonia> DJHenjin: fine, lets move on then
[10:19] <DJHenjin> desktop comes with graphical editors and music players and all that stuff which is useless on a server
[10:19] <ikonia> DJHenjin: the server install cd has a recovery environment from mememory - could you please boot into that
[10:19] <MarcelT3> how can "ls" be made to echo the whole path to a file (i.e. when grepping in ls -R) ?
[10:19] <DJHenjin> alright give me 4 minutes for post
[10:21] <king42> martel: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/index.aspx download 4th or use with wine no installation needed
[10:21] <Guest1992> can anyone here help me with stardict?
[10:23] <Roric> Hmm, StarDict disappeared from SourceForge...
[10:23] <DJHenjin> booting into recovery environment
[10:24] <Roric> There, it's back.
[10:24] <DJHenjin> ikonia , its going through the same stuff as an install
[10:24] <ikonia> DJHenjin: it's just setting up the enviornment
[10:25] <llutz_> MarcelT3: you'd better use "find" than ls
[10:25] <DJHenjin> okay, device to use as root filesystem?
[10:25] <DJHenjin> assemble raid array?
[10:25] <ikonia> DJHenjin: can you select meta devices ?
[10:25] <ikonia> DJHenjin: if possible sure
[10:25] <Guest1992> can anyone access stardict.sourceforge.com?
[10:25] <Guest1992> or org
[10:25] <DJHenjin> okay its assembled, now i have meta devices
[10:26] <DJHenjin> meta device 0?
[10:26] <MarcelT3> llutz_ found that out right in that moment as well :)
[10:26] <pksadiq> Guest1992: yes, I do stardict.sf.net
[10:26] <Hedgehog456> If I want a LAMP server in what order do I install Apache2, MySQL, PHP?
[10:27] <monkey1911> we got any ndiswrapper experts in here tonight?
[10:27] <DJHenjin> ikonia what now?
[10:27] <novoid> When I do face problems using an external TFT with other resolution than 1024x768, which package do I have to blame in a bug report? Xorg?
[10:27] <pksadiq> Guest1992: but no access to downoads
[10:27] <amit2011> any1 has any idea where my MBR is instaled 2 which partition? how can i find?\
[10:29] <DJHenjin> alright i have a shell at /dev/md/0 ikonia
[10:29] <Guest1992> pksadiq:do u know how to use stardict with xdxf
[10:29] <Navion> Can someone tell me how to get to single user so I can efsck my system disk?
[10:29] <Navion> I'm running 10.04 LTS
[10:30] <Guest1992> does anyone know how to get xdxf working with stardict?
[10:30] <DJHenjin> installed grub on sdb and sdc, now booting
[10:31] <DJHenjin> ikonia
[10:31] <DJHenjin> ikonia im at grub, but it wants commands to be passed to it now
[10:32] <adurodea> DJHenjin: which grub prompt?
[10:32] <DJHenjin> grub2 i would guess
[10:32] <adurodea> i meant the normal prompt rescue or ?
[10:32] <DJHenjin> normal boot
[10:32] <DJHenjin> no ISO connected to the system
[10:33] <beef-supreme> does anyone here use a tv tuner? i have a tv tuner related problem
[10:33] <tasslehoff> Is there a way I can give a system account a home folder? I need the Jenkins user to have ssh-keys.
[10:34] <DJHenjin> god this is a pain
[10:34] <adurodea> DJHenjin: set root(hd0,msdos1)
[10:34] <llutz_> tasslehoff: you can specify any key-location you want with ssh
[10:34] <adurodea> DJHenjin: linux (hd0,msdos1)/boot/vlinuz26 ro
[10:35] <DJHenjin> adurodea, not working
[10:35] <tasslehoff> llutz_: yeah, but I have no way (in Jenkins) to specify the key location on the command line, so I need to get Jenkins a ~/.ssh/config directory
[10:36] <ikonia> DJHenjin: just away from desk= back asap0
[10:36] <adurodea> DJHenjin: initrd (hd0,msdos1)/boot/kenel26.img or something like that
[10:36] <llutz_> tasslehoff: read "man usermod" then (-a -d ...   iirc)
[10:37] <adurodea> DJHenjin: ok where did it fail? (change hd0,msdos1 to where your kernel image/init are and root to where grub is
[10:37] <ikonia> DJHenjin: ok - back
[10:37] <ikonia> DJHenjin: as I understand it you've applied grub
[10:38] <DJHenjin> yeah grub is installed in the array
[10:38] <ikonia> DJHenjin: if you do "sudo fdisk -l" you should see your disks, I'm assuming the raid disks are still /dev/sdb and /dev/sdc ?
[10:38] <ikonia> DJHenjin: but it's hitting the real disks, yes ? not the mdX meta devices
[10:39] <DJHenjin> that mean i have to reboot into recovery right?
[10:39] <ikonia> DJHenjin: ok - so you've not installed grub yet, you're just in the recovery shell
[10:39] <DJHenjin> i did install grub
[10:39] <DJHenjin> i was just at grub
[10:39] <ikonia> at grub ?
[10:39] <DJHenjin> install grub, reboot
[10:40] <ikonia> how did you install grub ?
[10:40] <FrankLv> Hi, All. I got a weird problem today, the file is there but can't execute
[10:40] <FrankLv> http://paste.ubuntu.com/628325/    Please helps me to find out why
[10:40] <DJHenjin> grub-install /dev/sdb and then grub-install /dev/sdc
[10:41] <ikonia> DJHenjin: nah ! that's not how it's done, you need the other document I gave you
[10:41] <ikonia> DJHenjin: but with a few minor modifications
[10:41] <DJHenjin> let me get back into recovery then
[10:43] <DJHenjin> i somehow lost that page in my history and cant find it again
[10:43] <DJHenjin> nvm found it
[10:47] <DJHenjin> ikonia alright im now into recovery
[10:47] <ikonia> DJHenjin: give me 2 minutes, just need to finish something quickly
[10:48] <ThePhobos> Hi
[10:50] <ThePhobos> Im currently using ubuntu-one on windows and it seems to create files with clsIds.... Does anyone know why and wether I may delete them (since it sometimes even uploads them into my u1 file store)
[10:50] <DJHenjin> alright this is messed up, in recovery mode i told it to automatically assemble raid devices and its given me /dev/md126 and 127
[10:50] <oCean> FrankLv: there is java in the partner repositories
[10:50] <lolcat> ThePhobos: Are you asking the same question in several channels?
[10:51] <ThePhobos> nope
[10:51] <user> ThePhobos: nvm I had the channel open in two windows
[10:51] <ThePhobos> ;)
[10:51] <administrator__> ask for trouble
[10:51] <tasslehoff> llutz: supplementary group?
[10:51] <FrankLv> oCean: I'm not looking for java, I'm trying to install websphere application server under ubuntu server
[10:51] <auroraa94> hey is there a guy that can help me install the catalyst 11.6 drivers from the amd site
[10:52] <FrankLv> install media ship with jre
[10:52] <DJHenjin> is there a way to rename my meta devices?
[10:53] <auroraa94> hey am i online?
[10:53] <adurodea> auroraa94: yes
[10:53] <auroraa94> hey can anyone help me with my graphics card problem
[10:54] <adurodea> auroraa94: the ati catalyst drivers should be in the repositories no?
[10:54] <oCean> FrankLv: in your paste you are trying to execute java.
[10:54] <auroraa94> yes they are but they are very slow
[10:54] <adurodea> auroraa94: and you are expecting the ones on the site to be different because?
[10:55] <novoid> How can I disable 3D on 11.04?
[10:55] <auroraa94> well the ones from the reposetory are version 11.2...im shooting for newer :|
[10:55] <auroraa94> in hope for better results
[10:55] <FrankLv> oCean: Right, I try to install Webphere but failed, After a little investgate I found the cause is java won't execute.
[10:55] <adurodea> auroraa94: ok what happens when you try to install them? What command are you executing?
[10:55] <oCean> FrankLv: I don't think oracle supports running on ubuntu
[10:55] <Dragonster82> Uhmhey guys i need help
[10:56] <Dragonster82> Why is my ubuntu running really LAGGY?
[10:56] <Dragonster82> im running on natty
[10:56] <auroraa94> well i install them clean...like i was told from the link http:/**/help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[10:56] <monkey1911> Can I get a little bit of help with ndiswrapper? I have some logs/info if needed.
[10:56] <Dragonster82> Any1 help me?
[10:56] <OpenSource> list
[10:56] <Dragonster82> Can someone help me duh
[10:56] <Dragonster82> About my ubuntu lag
[10:56] <FrankLv> oCean: oracle? it's a IBM product
[10:57] <FrankLv> 17:56     FrankLv: oCean: oracle? it's a IBM product
[10:57] <Dragonster82> HELLO
[10:57] <oCean> FrankLv: sorry, you're right. Confused (with weblogic)
[10:57] <Dragonster82> CAN ANYONE HELP ME
[10:57] <oCean> Dragonster82: first, drop the CAPS
[10:57] <Dragonster82> Well
[10:57] <jpds> Dragonster82: It's a bit vague what the issue is.
[10:57] <Dragonster82> Lol
[10:57] <Dragonster82> OK
[10:57] <Dragonster82> It has never been this laggy
[10:57] <Dragonster82> but
[10:57] <sagaci> !enter | Dragonster82
[10:57] <auroraa94> well??
[10:58] <Dragonster82> when i scroll = lag, type = lag, Alot more!
[10:58] <jpds> Dragonster82: Sandybridge processor? Intel graphics?
[10:58] <FrankLv> oCean: one thing here is I'm wondering why the java command (along with all execute file untar from installation media) can't run
[10:58] <auroraa94> adurodea: do you have any solution?
[10:58] <Dragonster82> i use ati radeon 3100 (Integrated graphic cards )
[10:58] <oCean> FrankLv: have you tried running:  file /apps/download/JDK/jre.pak/repository/package.java.jre/java/jre/bin/java
[10:58] <auroraa94> i use ati saphire 5830
[10:58] <Navion> Can anyone point me to a RAM resident OS I can use to fsck my system disk?
[10:58] <FrankLv> oCean: yes
[10:58] <Dragonster82> Running what?
[10:59] <oCean> FrankLv: result?
[10:59] <auroraa94> ubuntu 11.04
[10:59] <DJHenjin> you could use backtrack4 in forensics mode
[10:59] <Dragonster82> I'm on ubuntu 11.04
[10:59] <Dragonster82> lolx
[10:59] <auroraa94> so are 98% of the people on this channel :P
[10:59] <Dragonster82> So..
[10:59] <DJHenjin> win 7/ubuntu 11.04 oh yeah
[10:59] <auroraa94> ...just a fact :P
[10:59] <Dragonster82> Any way on how to fix my epic lag issue?
[11:00] <Dragonster82> Video lag like ****
[11:00] <FrankLv> oCean: /apps/download/JDK/jre.pak/repository/package.java.jre/java/jre/bin/java: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, not stripped
[11:00] <auroraa94> watching videos or something else?
[11:00] <Dragonster82> lol when i watch a video, it lags like hell
[11:00] <auroraa94> video drivers?
[11:00] <Dragonster82> In windows 7, it was perfectly fine
[11:00] <auroraa94> yea
[11:00] <FrankLv> oCean: I'm runing 64 bit ubuntu server. But i'm sure it's ok to install 32 bit version Websphere
[11:00] <Dragonster82> Ima take pic of my stats lol
[11:01] <Dragonster82> i'll just type it out
[11:01] <Dragonster82> But nvm
[11:01] <oCean> FrankLv: sure, if you also have 32bit libs added
[11:01] <Dragonster82> Graphic cards: Ati radeon 3100 ( Integrated graphic card)
[11:01] <Dragonster82> Ram: 3gb
[11:01] <auroraa94> omg
[11:02] <auroraa94> how is it that i cant install the fucking drivers from the amd site properly
[11:02] <Dragonster82> Processor: (PS FOR TYPO ) AMD anthlon 64 x2 2.2ghz ( Rated at 4.4ghz )
[11:02] <oCean> Dragonster82: please stop using enter that much
[11:02] <ThePhobos> I asked this before - my IRC crashed tho.... Does anyone know what the .{clsid} files are good for in the windows ubuntu one client?
[11:03] <oCean> Dragonster82: try to describe your issue in one single line, then wait for an response
[11:03] <DJHenjin> bloody hell
[11:03] <auroraa94> :|
[11:03] <Dragonster82> oh well, i just said it
[11:03] <Jamshoot> Hello. Got a problem with hard disk, i always got a read DMA EXT error, while loading linux... Can some body help me with it or tell any other room, comuse i guess it is an offtom in ubuntu channel (my xchat stalls, then i try to see channel list)?
[11:03] <Jamshoot> *'couse
[11:04] <Dragonster82> Graphic cards: ATI radeon 3100 ( INtegrated ), Ram:3gb , Processor, amd anthlon 64 x2 2.2ghz ( Rated at 4.4.ghz ), using MSI v-class motherboard
[11:04] <ikonia> DJHenjin: really sorry about that, all done now
[11:04] <ikonia> DJHenjin: had to finish something off to give you proper attention
[11:04] <auroraa94> hey...where are the files for the amd graphic drivers suppose to be located?
[11:04] <Jamshoot> *sorry for gram. mistakes =)
[11:04] <Dragonster82> .. so who is gunna help me?
[11:04] <shiftingcontrol> i am using ubuntu 11.04 i have ubuntu 11.04,9.10,fedora 14 and windows and my 11.04 is the main one from which grub loads,after entering bios password i get following error http://pastie.org/2081857
[11:05] <DJHenjin> im attempting to install grub2 in /dev/md0 (raid1) to boot ubuntu server 11.04 64 bit using command sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/boot /dev/md0 i get error sudo unable to resovle host ubuntu and /usr/sbin/gurb-setup error unable to identify a filesystem in /dev/sdb: safety check can't be performed
[11:05] <Dragonster82> Any1 gunna help me?
[11:05] <oCean> Dragonster82: you still have not described what your issue is (detailed) and what you have done to try to resolve so far
[11:05] <oCean> Dragonster82: also, stop asking 'who is gonna help me'
[11:05] <auroraa94> i fucking did and nobody helped me :@
[11:06] <oCean> auroraa94: control your language
[11:06] <auroraa94> so i will :|
[11:06] <Dragonster82>  oCean: uhh, i tried removing all effects from compiz, still not fixed! Stats:Graphic cards: ATI radeon 3100 ( INtegrated ), Ram:3gb , Processor, amd anthlon 64 x2 2.2ghz ( Rated at 4.4.ghz ), using MSI v-class motherboard
[11:06] <oCean> auroraa94: it is all volunteers here, your attitude should reflect that. Also understand that help is not always available
[11:06] <ikonia> DJHenjin: ok - lets step back a minute (apologies for going away from keyboard) you've rushed in a bit and that maybe a problem
[11:07] <DJHenjin> im following your link to a T
[11:07] <auroraa94> oCean-omg sorry guys :S
[11:07] <ikonia> DJHenjin: yes, but I said it needs changing as you're doing something different
[11:07] <oCean> Dragonster82: "still not fixed" what is not fixed? No one here will understand your problem if your posting fragments of your issue.
[11:07] <DJHenjin> ikonia ok, so what do ?
[11:08] <Dragonster82>  oCean: Video lag, everywhere is filled with lag, thats what.
[11:08] <auroraa94> ok i installed the drivers perfectly
[11:08] <Dragonster82>  oCean: In windows 7, videos could play perfectly fine without lag, so whats the problem?
[11:08] <ikonia> DJHenjin: to me it looks like you didn't do the bind mounts
[11:08] <auroraa94> i will reboot and see if it works :D
[11:08] <DJHenjin> i mounted md0 at / and md1 as swap
[11:09] <ikonia> DJHenjin: what about the rest ?
[11:09] <DJHenjin> the rest?
[11:09] <ikonia> DJHenjin: yes, /dev, /proc
[11:09] <Dragonster82> Looks like oCean is gunna abandon me LOLOLOL
[11:09] <monkey1911> ROFL, thanks!
[11:10] <DJHenjin> ikonia, like i said im new to this portion of ubuntu
[11:10] <ikonia> DJHenjin: this is the same in any porition - and it's in the document that you'd said you'd read
[11:10] <DJHenjin> did i screw up royally?
[11:10] <ikonia> DJHenjin: nah, it's all fixible
[11:10] <ikonia> DJHenjin: is your recovery environemtn on the network ?
[11:10] <DJHenjin> i did read it though, and followed it religiously
[11:10] <DJHenjin> yes its on the network
[11:10] <ikonia> DJHenjin: you didn't read it through  as this is detailed in it
[11:11] <ikonia> DJHenjin: could you please "sudo apt-get install pastebinit"
[11:12] <monkey1911> Still looking for some help with ndiswrapper, running 10.04 LTS. when I modprobe nsidwrapper I get no return, I have a dmesg log if that will help.
[11:12] <DJHenjin> installed ikonia, what now
[11:12] <ikonia> DJHenjin: excellent, please do "mount | pastebinit"
[11:13] <ikonia> DJHenjin: (easier to work if I can see exact info)
[11:13] <DJHenjin> should we do this in private?
[11:13] <ikonia> DJHenjin: nah, it's fine
[11:13] <DJHenjin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/628340/
[11:14] <ikonia> DJHenjin: if you type "exit" does it drop out of the chroot ?
[11:14] <niko-nojo> Does anyone know how to add minimise,maximise,close buttons on the menu bar in Unity 11.04 ?
[11:15] <DJHenjin> it drops me to select where i want to execute a shell
[11:16] <ikonia> DJHenjin: sorry, I've not worked with the server recovery console for a while so you'll have to be a little more descriptive, is it a menu system or just a shell ?
[11:17] <DJHenjin> its text based and asks where to execute a shell /dev/md/, installer environment
[11:17] <ikonia> DJHenjin: could you again do "mount | pastebinit" please
[11:17] <DJHenjin> menu based i guess
[11:17] <ikonia> ahh, so you don't have a command line,
[11:17] <DJHenjin> until i choose where to execute the shell at
[11:17] <ikonia> this is going to be really tricky
[11:18] <DJHenjin> execute from installer environment?
[11:18] <ikonia> DJHenjin: I actually don't know what that option does
[11:19]  * DJHenjin reminds himself to take deep breaths and count to ten slowly
[11:19] <ikonia> DJHenjin: try it see what it does, but be careful
[11:19] <ikonia> DJHenjin: we can always reboot back to the other enviornment
[11:19] <DJHenjin> what other environment?
[11:19] <ethern0t> hallo
[11:19] <lapion> Hell I was wondering for a long time why ubuntu doesn't give the option to cancel updates/installs/upgrades while the process is still downloading files
[11:19] <ikonia> DJHenjin: the md0 shell one
[11:19] <lapion> *Hello
[11:20] <DJHenjin> im in the installer shell
[11:20] <ikonia> is it actually a shell environment that you can type with ?
[11:20] <DJHenjin> yes
[11:20] <DJHenjin> its terminal (badumtsh
[11:20] <inputmice> hi guys
[11:20] <fwest> can i get ubuntu for arm cpu's?
[11:21] <ikonia> DJHenjin: super, ok so mount /dev/md0 /mnt
[11:21] <ikonia> DJHenjin: actually wait
[11:21] <ikonia> it's probably already mounted
[11:21] <lapion> fwest, you can get allmost anything if you google..
[11:21] <ikonia> DJHenjin: do a "mount" and see if /dev/md0 is already mounted anywhere
[11:21] <shiftingcontrol> i am using ubuntu 11.04 i have ubuntu 11.04,9.10,fedora 14 and windows and my 11.04 is the main one from which grub loads,after entering bios password i get following error http://pastie.org/2081857
[11:21] <inputmice> where do i change the uuid in initramfs? the initramfs tries to boot from an "old" partition and i want to tell it to boot from the new one
[11:21] <fwest> lapion, google only talks about 9.04 for arm
[11:22] <DJHenjin> its mounte to /target
[11:22] <ikonia> DJHenjin: ok - so lets "mount -o bind /dev /target/dev
[11:22] <ikonia> "
[11:23] <DJHenjin> done
[11:23] <ikonia> DJHenjin: now lets do "mount -o bind /proc /target/proc"
[11:23] <DJHenjin> again
[11:23] <ikonia> DJHenjin: finally, cp /proc/mounts /target/etc/mtab
[11:24] <DJHenjin> as well done ikonia
[11:24] <ikonia> DJHenjin: ok, now "chroot /target /bin/bash"
[11:25] <DJHenjin> as well done
[11:25] <ikonia> excellent, so you're now back in your install - but hopefully correclty mounted
[11:25] <ikonia> DJHenjin: can you redo "mount | pastebinit" please
[11:26] <DJHenjin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/628346/
[11:26] <ikonia> DJHenjin: not perfect, but more than good enough
[11:27] <DJHenjin> alright
[11:28] <ikonia> DJHenjin: just let me work out the string you need,
[11:28] <ikonia> DJHenjin: can you do "blkid" from witin that environment ?
[11:28] <DJHenjin> yeah
[11:28] <DJHenjin> let me guess pastebinit
[11:29] <ikonia> DJHenjin: if you like, than I can work it out properly fo ryou
[11:29] <xander> Hi!
[11:29] <DJHenjin> if i didnt.... you wouldnt have anythign to go on
[11:29] <ikonia> DJHenjin: well, I could ask you to work it out....
[11:29] <DJHenjin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/628347/
[11:30] <xander> Is bitcollider no longer in ubuntu repos (Maverick)?
[11:30] <ikonia> DJHenjin: ok, here we go
[11:31] <ikonia> DJHenjin: "grub-install --boot-directory=/boot /dev/sdb"
[11:32] <DJHenjin> "installation finished. no error reported"
[11:32] <ikonia> DJHenjin: cross your fingers and boot
[11:32] <monkey1911> Still looking for some help with ndiswrapper, running 10.04 LTS. when I modprobe nsidwrapper I get no return, I have a dmesg log if that will help. http://pastebin.com/8X9gVGjZ
[11:33] <pksadiq> !find bitcollider maverick
[11:33] <xander> It was there in intrepid (IIRC)
[11:33] <DJHenjin> well flip
[11:34] <DJHenjin> im at grub, but its given me a prompt to type a command in
[11:34] <ikonia> ahhhh we forgot the menu !!!!
[11:34] <DJHenjin> ah crap
[11:34] <ikonia> DJHenjin: darn it, sorry, I totally didn't think
[11:34] <xander> When was bitcollider removed?
[11:34] <DJHenjin> on my way back to recovery
[11:34] <ikonia> DJHenjin: can you get back to the same place we where at before with everything mounted ?
[11:35] <DJHenjin> not easily
[11:35] <ikonia> DJHenjin: if you're not sure just ask
[11:35] <ikonia> DJHenjin: get the basics done, then ask and we'll get it sorted
[11:35] <DJHenjin> i mean i could go back in chat on here to look at the commands again, but at the rate messages are sent to this channel
[11:35] <ikonia> DJHenjin: just get the thing booted, we'll set it back up again
[11:36] <DJHenjin> takes quite a while to boot into recovery,
[11:39] <DJHenjin> alright im in
[11:40] <oCean> xander: packages.ubuntu.com says it was only in dapper and hardy
[11:40] <ikonia> DJHenjin: ok so "mount -o bind /dev /target/dev"
[11:40] <xander> oCean: I'm using it in intrepid on my old machine. So it was definitely there.
[11:41] <xander> However, thanks for the confirmation.
[11:41] <oCean> !info bitcollider intrepid
[11:41] <DJHenjin> ikonia next?
[11:41] <ikonia> DJHenjin: mount -o bind /dev /target/dev
[11:41] <ikonia> sorry, just did that
[11:41] <ikonia> DJHenjin: mount -o bind /proc /target/proc
[11:42] <DJHenjin> yep
[11:42] <ikonia> DJHenjin: cp /proc/mounts /target/etc/mtab
[11:42] <xander> ubottu: Hardy (8.04) -> Intrepid (8.10) -> Jaunty (9.04) -> Karmic (9.10) -> Lucid, etc. :-)
[11:42] <oCean> xander: right, intrepid is eol, that's why the search did not give
[11:42] <xander> Right.
[11:42] <k_sze> I forget what's the command to list the locales that are acceptable to assign to LC_ALL, LC_CTYPE, etc.
[11:43] <xander> That's why I enquired about maverick.
[11:43] <oCean> !info bitcollider maverick
[11:43] <k_sze> !locale
[11:43] <oCean> xander: so you're correct, it got removed
[11:43] <xander> I know. Guess I'll just compile it from source.
[11:43] <xander> Thanks for your support!
[11:43] <DJHenjin> alright
[11:43] <oCean> xander: welcome
[11:44] <shiftingcontrol> i am using ubuntu 11.04 i have ubuntu 11.04,9.10,fedora 14 and windows and my 11.04 is the main one from which grub loads,after entering bios password i get following error http://pastie.org/2081857
[11:44] <xander> Anyway to petition Canonical to re-introduce it?
[11:44] <ikonia> DJHenjin: ok so now "chroot /target /bind/bash"
[11:44] <k_sze> 'locale -a', right?
[11:44] <DJHenjin> int it /bin/bash ?
[11:45] <DJHenjin> alright done
[11:45] <ikonia> DJHenjin: oops, well spotted
[11:46] <ikonia> DJHenjin: so now "update-grub2"
[11:46] <DJHenjin> done
[11:47] <ikonia> DJHenjin: look at /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[11:47] <DJHenjin> cannot find list of partitions(try mounting /sys)
[11:47] <ikonia> DJHenjin: does that file exist
[11:47] <ikonia> ahhh sys
[11:47] <ikonia> DJHenjin: exit out of the chroot
[11:47] <DJHenjin> out of chroot
[11:48] <ikonia> DJHenjin: mount -o bind /sys /target/sys
[11:48] <DJHenjin> alright
[11:48] <ikonia> DJHenjin: chroot /target /bin/bash
[11:49] <DJHenjin> done
[11:49] <ikonia> DJHenjin: lets try "update-grub2" again
[11:49] <ThePhobos> Maybe some1 can help me now? I got files of the following type with my u1 windows client ".7e69c264-b81e-4920-a4b1-42c9b231eab7" (some kinda uuid?) and sometimes U1 even uploads them to my store ... any1 know what they are for or why?
[11:49] <DJHenjin> cannot access cdrom no such file or directory
[11:49] <DJHenjin> no other errors though
[11:50] <ikonia> DJHenjin: that's ok that's just a warning I think
[11:50] <ikonia> DJHenjin: does that file exist ?
[11:50] <ikonia> DJHenjin: look in /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[11:50] <DJHenjin> yeah
[11:50] <ikonia> DJHenjin: does it look like it contains real data ?
[11:50] <ikonia> DJHenjin: just glance through it
[11:51] <DJHenjin> how do i look in it?
[11:51] <oCean> ThePhobos: I have no idea. There is a channel #ubuntuone though
[11:51] <ikonia> DJHenjin: open it with a text editor ?
[11:51] <DJHenjin> what one?
[11:51] <ikonia> DJHenjin: anyone you want
[11:51] <ThePhobos> oCean: K Thx I will try there
[11:51] <DJHenjin> i dont know which ones are installed, or should i install kate?
[11:52] <ikonia> DJHenjin: hang on
[11:52] <ikonia> DJHenjin: you said you didn't want a desktop ealier yet you want to use a text editor that needs a desktop
[11:52] <DJHenjin> i used less
[11:52] <ikonia> DJHenjin: just cat it
[11:52] <ikonia> DJHenjin: less works
[11:52] <DJHenjin> looks like real data to me
[11:52] <ikonia> DJHenjin: ok - again, cross fingers, lets boot
[11:53] <introuble> what is the best type of encryption? and how long it will take to encrypt/deencrypt ?. after encryption. can no NO ONE (in any case) open and read the hd partition?
[11:53] <DJHenjin> depends on the key length
[11:54] <DJHenjin> and with long keys they have to be stored somehow, unless you are going to memorize 10k digits
[11:54] <ikonia> DJHenjin: ?
[11:54] <DJHenjin> encryption stuff
[11:54] <ikonia> DJHenjin: who are you talking to ?
[11:54] <DJHenjin> introuble
[11:54] <theadmin> introuble: I use AES encryption with a software called TrueCrypt, however you can not encrypt system partitions with it
[11:56] <ejv> "encryption" isn't a one-size-fits-all methodology, so your question is inherently silly
[11:56] <introuble> theadmin so how can i encrypt
[11:56] <introuble> what max bit encrypt is available
[11:56] <DJHenjin> crap, well im at login, but i cant remember what my username is
[11:57] <theadmin> introuble: Look at their website, download the .deb package from there, enjoy -- it's got a clean, nice GUI
[11:57] <theadmin> Oh wait
[11:57] <DJHenjin> bloody hell
[11:58] <theadmin> introuble: They got rid of the .deb packages, they have one universal installer now, so use that
[11:59] <DJHenjin> is there any way i can recover my username?
[11:59] <ikonia> DJHenjin: what do you mean ?
[11:59] <DJHenjin> it booted to the login prompt, i forgot what i put in during install for username, therefore i cannot login
[12:00] <ikonia> DJHenjin: recovery time again, this should be easy /quick though
[12:00] <introuble> theadmin truecrypt ? isnt bitlock better ?
[12:01] <DJHenjin> only problem is i have to go into the bios every time and change the boot order to USB
[12:01] <theadmin> introuble: I don't think so.
[12:01] <ikonia> DJHenjin: can't help that
[12:01] <DJHenjin> which is good mind you because i can put a pass on bios and make it so someone cant boot it off of say backtrac4
[12:02] <introuble> theadmin why so
[12:03] <DJHenjin> bitlocker can encrypt a system drive with a USB key as the key
[12:03] <olskolirc> how do i export path /ibus/bus to .config/ibus/bus please my script won't connect to the next command until I end the first one
[12:03] <introuble> DJHenjin can you elaborate
[12:03] <DJHenjin> on windows with bitlocker anyways
[12:04] <theadmin> introuble: It's not Windows-only, at the very least
[12:04] <coderr> hi, i'm trying to monitor changes of my (laptop) display brightness, which is stored and modifyed via /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness. but inotifywait /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness doesn't notice any events when i change the display brightness, tried it as root and as user. any hints on this?
[12:04] <oCean> olskolirc: sorry, I don't know what you mean
[12:04] <introuble> theadmin truecrypt you mean is multi platform and bitlock is only for windows ?
[12:04] <coderr> the file contents are actually changed btw., i checked that
[12:05] <DJHenjin> alright ikonia im in recovery
[12:05] <theadmin> introuble: Yeah...
[12:05] <introuble> theadmin what max bit of encryption is possible?
[12:06] <theadmin> introuble: Let me check
[12:06] <introuble> k
[12:06] <monkey1911> Still looking for some help with ndiswrapper, running 10.04 LTS. when I modprobe nsidwrapper I get no return, I have a dmesg log if that will help. http://pastebin.com/8X9gVGjZ
[12:07] <theadmin> introuble: Most of algorythms it supports use 256-bit keys, however you can combine multiple encryption algorythms, like AES+Twofish
[12:09] <DJHenjin> ikonia im in recovery mode now,
[12:10] <ikonia> DJHenjin: cat /etc/passwd | pastebinit
[12:12] <DJHenjin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/628362/
[12:12] <ikonia> DJHenjin: your username is ubuntu-server-1
[12:12] <ikonia> DJHenjin: set the password on it by doing "passwd ubuntu-server-1"
[12:13] <DJHenjin> is it easy to change the password, i tried that a few times
[12:13] <ikonia> DJHenjin: the command I've given you will change the password
[12:13] <DJHenjin> yeah i typed that just as you hit enter
[12:13] <DJHenjin> thanks
[12:13] <n0gear> .
[12:13] <ikonia> DJHenjin: ahh, are you in the md0 chroot / shell enviornment ?
[12:13] <DJHenjin> yeah
[12:14] <ikonia> DJHenjin: great, no problem then
[12:14] <DJHenjin> its obviouse that i have to be there to get the pswd
[12:14] <n0gear> has anyone had problems enabling wifi on minilaptops with broadcom adapter
[12:14] <ikonia> DJHenjin: no it's not, as you could be looking the CD's password file
[12:15] <ikonia> DJHenjin: you'll get a lot further if you stop giving smart repsonses to people who know more than you and are tyring to help you
[12:16] <DJHenjin> its obvious to me that if i want to see the password on the system installed in /dev/md0 you have to be in a shell at /dev/md0
[12:16] <DJHenjin> simple logic
[12:16] <theadmin> n0gear: Yes, you need broadcom-wl
[12:16] <ikonia> DJHenjin: the CD's password file will look pretty much the same
[12:16] <ikonia> DJHenjin: why why I as checking you'd not modified the wrong acount
[12:16] <DJHenjin> except it wouldnt have username ubuntu-server-1 which i recognized as soon as i did the cat
[12:16] <ikonia> DJHenjin: so your simple logic is flawed due to your lack of knowledge, so again, better to just answer questions than try to give smart answers and look foolish
[12:17] <ikonia> DJHenjin: yes, but I didn't know that was your username, hence why I was checking
[12:17] <ikonia> DJHenjin: trying to save you from making more silly mistakes
[12:17] <DJHenjin> it seriously is simple logic
[12:17] <ikonia> DJHenjin: no, it's not, you're just trying to be smart, and looking a fool after I've just spent an hour trying to help you with basic things
[12:17] <ikonia> DJHenjin: it's not hard to just say "yes, I'm in the md0 shell"
[12:17] <DJHenjin> basic to an advanced linux user
[12:18] <ikonia> DJHenjin: then perhaps dropping the smart responses would be helpful
[12:18] <balu> hello
[12:19] <DJHenjin> either way i need food
[12:19] <ikonia> I hope you don't need any more help, as I'll be backing away from your attitud enow
[12:20] <ikonia> DJHenjin: and of course you are welcome for the help
[12:20] <marcelo> Brazil, whats channel?
[12:20] <ikonia> !br | marcelo
[12:21] <monkey1911> Still looking for some help with ndiswrapper, running 10.04 LTS. when I modprobe nsidwrapper I get no return, I have a dmesg log if that will help. http://pastebin.com/8X9gVGjZ
[12:22]  * theadmin thought ikonia is saying stuff without getting any reply, but then realized I have /ignored that DJ dude for stupidity xD
[12:25] <eleVen> hi, i ve installed ubuntu 1.04 and i tried fooling around with compiz(cube) and now i cant work... no sidebars no topbars..... :(... what do i do ?
[12:26] <DJHenjin> ikonia, just because i needed help installing ubuntu server on a non standard setup doesnt mean im a computer illiterate
[12:26] <theadmin> eleVen: 1.04? Where did you even find that?
[12:27] <eleVen> theadmin, 11.04
[12:27] <eleVen> sorry
[12:28] <theadmin> eleVen: Ah. From what I know compiz doesn't work well on it, indeed :( Try running "unity --reset" in a terminal
[12:28] <codeManiac> Hello. I need a text editor with built in support for version control. Asked google, it hushed me away. I seek refuge here.
[12:28] <dr_willis> codeManiac,  geany has all sorts of plugins and addons.
[12:28] <eleVen> theadmin, i couldn't even open terminal from tty7 so i logged in with tty6 and tried unity --reset . but unity wasn't even installed ...
[12:29] <theadmin> eleVen: Huh. It's installed by default
[12:29] <dr_willis> codeManiac,  and i imagine such a thing exists for emacs.  if you like emacs. :)
[12:29] <codeManiac> dr_willis: thanks a bunch! checking it out! :)
[12:29] <dr_willis> codeManiac,  but i like geany for many other reasons. I even use it on my windwos box's
[12:29] <ikonia> DJHenjin: doesn't excuse your lack of manners
[12:29] <eleVen> theadmin, i only "unity decorator " or something like that was there... tried --reset with that... didn't help
[12:29] <codeManiac> dr_willis: Sounds cool! I think I have used it before, but without the suitable plugins.
[12:29] <DJHenjin> ikonia how old are you/how long have you used *nix
[12:30] <ikonia> DJHenjin: doesn't matter - offtopic for this channel
[12:30] <eleVen> DJHenjin, chill
[12:30] <DJHenjin> just trying to find out what species of bug is up your ass :)
[12:30] <eleVen> theadmin, should try compiz --replace after that and reboot
[12:31] <ikonia> DJHenjin: the one that's telling you to control your attitude and mind your manners if you want to continue to use this channel for support
[12:31] <macfiree> i have a problem, when i want a maximine the window
[12:31] <ikonia> DJHenjin: you'll get really good help if you can drop the smart responses to the people helping you,
[12:31] <macfiree> dont appear the options
[12:31] <eleVen> theadmin, can u tell me a terminal based irc so that i dont have to log on to windows again and again in order to find help/solution ?
[12:31] <dr_willis> eleVen,  weechat or irssi
[12:31] <theadmin> eleVen: irssi, weechat
[12:32] <iceroot> eleVen: irssi + screen + ssh
[12:32] <dr_willis> eleVen,  i perfer weechat, irssi is nice also. but lacking in some ways. :)
[12:32] <DJHenjin> dude may i say 1 thing in a civilised manner?
[12:32] <eleVen> thanks :) all
[12:32] <ikonia> DJHenjin: I think we'll leave it there please.
[12:32] <theadmin> iceroot: s/screen/tmux/
[12:33] <iceroot> theadmin: what is better about tmux?
[12:34] <dr_willis> differnt featureset.
[12:34] <dr_willis> may be a little easier to learn. theres also byobu - which is screen+moreuserfriendly bindings
[12:34] <theadmin> iceroot: More senseful keycombos + that green bar + split windows (if you used tiling wm's you can imangine) + etc
[12:34] <iceroot> theadmin: screen can also splitt windows
[12:34] <dr_willis> ages ago i used 'twin' for a similer thing. but i think its no longer being developed.
[12:35] <iceroot> better would be something were i can LATER attach a running shell into an existing screen session
[12:35] <theadmin> iceroot: Oh, didn't bother to learn it enough
[12:35] <dr_willis> twin was sort of a 'text' based window manager for the console, (and later for X)   like the old dos-box drawing type programs.
[12:35] <theadmin> iceroot: Oh and dtach can do that thing
[12:35] <dr_willis> iceroot,  always set up your shell to use screen by default :)
[12:35] <introuble> theadmin truecrypt cant encrypt external usb stick drive . can it?  or any other can ?
[12:35] <dr_willis> or was it byobu that could do that with a setting.
[12:35] <iceroot> dr_willis: bashrc calling screen?
[12:36] <theadmin> introuble: It can
[12:36] <iceroot> dr_willis: sorry, .zshrc :)
[12:36] <theadmin> introuble: My USB stick is encrypted with it :P
[12:36] <introuble> theadmin how much time does it takes for 8g
[12:36] <introuble> theadmin ic :)
[12:36] <dr_willis> theres a ways to set your default shell to call up screen - i saw byobu do it somehow.
[12:37] <theadmin> introuble: I dunno, probably 5 minutes for the initial format -- and working with TrueCrypt-ed drives is almost as fast as with non-encrypted ones
[12:37] <iceroot> dr_willis: sounds nice, i will have a look but because screen is installed by default on the most systems i guess its best to stay with screen (like vi(m) instead of emacs)
[12:37] <DJHenjin> is there any way from terminal that i can get a list of installed packages?
[12:37] <dr_willis> iceroot,  byoybu is screen also. Just nicer keybiondingz
[12:38] <dr_willis> so your screen-fu skills will still work with it.
[12:38] <dr_willis> !clone
[12:38] <codeManiac> dr_willis: I installed geanyvc, exactly what i needed. Thanks again :).. good bye.
[12:38] <introuble> theadmin oh so every drive i have to encrypt should be first formated by truecrypt..?
[12:38] <iceroot> dr_willis: nice, normally i only use ^a+c and ^a+n :)
[12:38] <dr_willis> the first command there DJHenjin  puts all installed pacakges in a text file  :)
[12:38] <theadmin> introuble: Yeah
[12:38] <dr_willis> iceroot,  on my g15 kweyboard i set up special bindings to the GKeys :)
[12:39] <introuble> theadmin do i need a decrypting software installed on os to decrypt the stick. suppose i plug it into a linux os and want to read contents?
[12:39] <introuble> theadmin ic
[12:39] <theadmin> introuble: TrueCrypt decrypts as well as encrypts, you can just carry it's installers on a separate partition, like I do
[12:40] <introuble> theadmin ic.
[12:40] <DJHenjin> is there an EHCP package?
[12:41] <introuble> theadmin  ill take linux installers too.
[12:41] <introuble> theadmin one important idea i was thinking of. is it possible to stop anyone from formating the encrypted stick?
[12:41] <theadmin> introuble: Unfortunately there's no protection from formaatting, yeah :(
[12:41] <introuble> hm
[12:41] <DJHenjin> some USB flash drives have write protection which will prevent formatting
[12:42] <DJHenjin> its a physical write protection switch
[12:42] <bazhang_> DJHenjin, check packages.ubuntu.com
[12:42] <dr_willis> I bought a USB flash that couldent be formated.. or written to.. no switch either.. :) had to return it..
[12:42] <introuble> DJHenjin ya but that can be manually turned off
[12:43] <introuble> dr_willis lolz
[12:43] <theadmin> introuble: But from what I know not even the FBI managed to decrypt data on a truecrypt partition
[12:43] <eleVen> hi again, succesfully got in here using weechat... how do i reset unity to get those sidebars again now ? theadmin
[12:43] <hideaki974> hi all
[12:43] <eleVen> cant find terminal in tty7... how do i do this ?
[12:44] <introuble> theadmin you feel truecrypt is best when security is concerned?
[12:44] <theadmin> introuble: Yeah, my favorite
[12:44] <dr_willis> eleVen,  7 is normally for X. 1-6 are for consoles
[12:44] <introuble> theadmin k..
[12:45] <eleVen> dr_willis: ya, so where do i reset unity... i cant see any bars ... cant do anything except look at my usb drive on the desktop
[12:45] <dr_willis> eleVen,  at any console. use the proper command
[12:46] <dr_willis> then try logging back in... is one way
[12:46] <introuble> theadmin i heard you can use multiple alogrithems and keys ?
[12:46] <eleVen> dr_willis: and what would be that ? unity --reset ? ive tried that...
[12:46] <dr_willis> eleVen,  that resets the icons/launcher as far as i know..
[12:46] <DJHenjin> whats the command for viewing current CPU load and stuff like that on ubuntu 11.04 server?
[12:46] <dr_willis> theres a few other unity/gnome/compiz reset commands
[12:47] <theadmin> introuble: Yes, you can even use files instead of/along with passwords (so feed the file to it when decrypting, and if it's the same file it will work, if it's not - it won't)
[12:47] <eleVen> dr_willis: so can u directly tell me what i can do? cant use lynx to find solutions u know
[12:47] <eleVen> dr_willis: the best part is all users are affected
[12:48] <introuble> theadmin hm. ic.
[12:48] <introuble> theadmin how much should be the key strengh?
[12:48] <dr_willis> http://www.delicious.com/dr_willis 3 item - how to reset :)
[12:48] <theadmin> introuble: They recommend 20 characters and above for passwords
[12:48] <dr_willis> gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz-1
[12:49] <dr_willis> unity --reset
[12:49] <eleVen> theadmin: please help... how do i reset unity ?
[12:49] <dr_willis> and/or unity --reset-icons
[12:49] <theadmin> eleVen: What dr_willis says
[12:49] <introuble> theadmin i think i only have to remember the password . right?
[12:49] <n0gear> .
[12:49] <eleVen> i dont understand dr_willis
[12:50] <introuble> theadmin iam currently using winrar atm
[12:50] <dr_willis> eleVen,  use the command shown avove from a console...
[12:50] <dr_willis> gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz-1         then  unity --reset
[12:50] <eleVen> dr_willis: that gconf *** line followed by unity reset ? from any tty?
[12:50] <dr_willis> eleVen,  use the command shown  from a console. yes...
[12:50] <eleVen> dr_willis: u want me to sudo that?
[12:51] <dr_willis> eleVen,  why would you think you need sudo?
[12:51] <dr_willis> its your users settings. :) not root's
[12:51] <eleVen> dr_willis: ok i'll try that
[12:51] <oCean> !afk > LukosAnth[Away]
[12:52] <eleVen> dr_willis: well i tried changing settings for one user wonder why all users have "no sidebar" problem then ?
[12:52] <dr_willis> eleVen,  if a single user changed settings.. it should not be affecting other users.
[12:52] <dr_willis> unless you used some sudo vodoo when you should not have..
[12:52] <eleVen> dr_willis: well thats what is supposed to happen but thats not the case here
[12:52] <leagris> onjour
[12:53] <theadmin> !fr | leagris
[12:53] <eleVen> hmmm ok
[12:53] <dr_willis> eleVen,  i would guess that  what you think happened - is not what really happened..   its possible some update/upgrade messed stuff up for all users.. but its hard to tell.
[12:53] <dr_willis> eleVen,  try making a new user, see if they have the same issue.. *(what is the issue anyway)*
[12:55] <eleVen> dr_willis: u kick azz
[12:55] <eleVen> :D
[12:55] <eleVen> thanks
[12:56] <eleVen> this weechat is also kickazz
[12:56] <leagris> I am trying to get ekiga support for x264 but the provided natty version does not offer that. Has to compile ekiga trunk. Listed deb and ubuntu repository from ekiga wiki are outdated empty. Too bad. The Ubuntu opal library has stability usability issues. Any other known good ekiga packages with x264?
[12:56] <dr_willis> eleVen,  check the weechat docs/beginner guides.. it has some amazing features
[12:57] <rizzeh> irssi > weechat (imo) :D
[12:57] <dr_willis> I find weechat >>>> irssi
[12:57] <dr_willis> smar filters are so handy.
[12:57] <dr_willis> smart..
[12:57] <eleVen> dr_willis: yo... i will check it out.. thanks once again... u r the dr...
[12:57] <rizzeh> larger footprint
[12:58] <dr_willis> smart fiilters are smart.. :)
[12:58] <dr_willis> yea.. i really need to conserve ram on this 6gb desktop :)
[12:58] <rizzeh> im ssh into 64mb ram server :z
[12:58] <usr13> showoff :)
[12:58]  * dr_willis sends rizzeh  a c64 for a upgrade 
[12:58] <daxroc> Hey all
[12:58] <daxroc> Getting a strange problem, when im typeing sometimes a keypress will stick or one will be missed entirely anyone seen this before ?
[12:59] <rizzeh> lol ty :)
[12:59] <dr_willis> daxroc,  does it do this in the console? or just terminal> or in word processor? or everywhere?
[12:59] <DJHenjin> if i setup EHCP with mail configuration with my domain name, and i already have an existing email server, will that cause any problems?
[12:59] <daxroc> dr_willis: Everywhere
[12:59] <usr13> daxroc: Yep.  Was bad keyboard, in my case.
[13:00] <dr_willis> daxroc,  as a text. you could try some alternative live cd. like tcl, or even freedos, see if it affects the iother os's as well.  If it affexts them all.. i would have to think its a keyboard hw issue.
[13:00] <dr_willis> as a 'test' :)
[13:00] <dr_willis> cat hasent chewed on the cables?
[13:00] <coz_> :)
[13:01] <daxroc> dr_willis: Sorry, If I switch to a console it doesn't persist
[13:01] <baubun> Hi everyone
[13:01] <coz_> hry
[13:01] <coz_> hey
[13:01] <leagris> Do you know of an alternate good ppa or deb repository for ekiga with support for H.264/263/+ ?
[13:02] <daxroc> dr_willis: All apps in ontop of the xserver get the glitch, You dont configure input devices with a manual xorg.conf anymore right ?
[13:02] <dr_willis> daxroc,  X auto configures for the most part these days
[13:02] <dr_willis> daxroc,  this a laptop? or usb or ps2 keyboard?
[13:03] <daxroc> dr_willis: a usb keyboard, desktop
[13:03] <rrittenhouse> Is there a way to do a repair on Ubuntu?
[13:03] <bazhang> rrittenhouse, repair what
[13:03] <dr_willis> rrittenhouse,  clarify what you  want
[13:04] <rrittenhouse> bazhang: dr_willis: Was upgrading from 10.04 to 10.10 and the VM disk filled up so now it kinda works but its in a weird state. I would like to upgrade completely to 10.10
[13:04] <dr_willis> that dosent sound good...
[13:04] <bazhang> rrittenhouse, repair a virtual machine? just reinstall fresh
[13:05] <rrittenhouse> bazhang: true. Its just using LAMP I just wanted to know if there was a 'repair'
[13:05] <caulkz> looking for a snmp viewer to use with adsl router? TIA :)
[13:05] <bazhang> rrittenhouse, vmware vbox, which one
[13:05] <rrittenhouse> vmware esx
[13:05] <Flying> Hey guys
[13:05] <Flying> I have a question
[13:05] <coz_> shoot
[13:05] <bazhang> rrittenhouse, perhaps check their support forums
[13:06] <daxroc> dr_willis: any other suggestions ?
[13:06] <bazhang> caulkz, apt-cache search snmp
[13:06] <usr13> daxroc: Do you have ps2 keyboard port?
[13:06] <coz_> Flying,  what is the question?
[13:06] <caulkz> tried synaptic but no joy :/
[13:06] <dr_willis> daxroc,  not really.  Unless you have a spare keuyboard to test.  check the cables/ plug in differnt port.
[13:07] <rrittenhouse> bazhang: I think its more of an Ubuntu issue? I think it just can't recover from a bad install (which would be tough to do).
[13:08] <bazhang> rrittenhouse, no idea, really. I'd doubt it could be repaired, thus the suggestion for vmare forums
[13:08] <bazhang> +w
[13:08] <dr_willis> if it did get repaired.. how to you really prove it got repaired correctly. you could have some issues next week from it..
[13:08] <caulkz> anyone?
[13:08] <Flying> I bought this new router, it's a D-link something, quite expensive and it's really unstable and shit, I tried upgrading the firmware but I think I already had the latest, the speed randomly goes down to like 50kbps when connecting a third computer(via a switch) and now even with one computer the internet is going down for like 1 min ute every halv hour.
[13:09] <bazhang> caulkz, my command, or packages.ubuntu.com
[13:09] <bazhang> Flying, no cursing please
[13:09] <caulkz> bazhang: cheers :)
[13:09] <Flying> sorry
[13:09] <usr13> Flying: WHat router?  Wireless or Wired?
[13:09] <bazhang> Flying, that sounds completely like a hardware issue, nothing to do with ubuntu
[13:10] <bazhang> ##hardware Flying
[13:10] <Flying> Yeah I know but you guys are good at this
[13:10] <coz_> Flying,  do you have the olde router to test  to be sure it is not the isp  dropping speed every half hour?
[13:10] <bazhang> Flying, no matter its offtopic here
[13:10] <Flying> I'm using an older one which works perfectly
[13:10] <rrittenhouse> bazhang: yeah. Thanks for the suggestions. I could have had the OS about half reinstalled by now ;)
[13:10] <usr13> Flying: Maybe you have some sort of IP conflict?
[13:10] <coz_> Flying,  then I am not sure,, I is unlikely an ubuntu specific issue
[13:10] <Flying> It's both wired and wiereless, i'm only using wired at the moment
[13:11] <bazhang> Flying, its got zero to do with ubuntu.
[13:11] <coz_> Flying,  you could try asking in either ## linux  or  #hardware channels
[13:11] <Flying> oh okay
[13:11] <Flying> I'll do that
[13:11] <coz_> cool
[13:11] <usr13> Flying: Check to see that you do not have IP conflict(s).
[13:11] <Flying> how do I do that lol
[13:11] <Flying> I'm using DHCP
[13:12] <Flying> also I can't join #hardware
[13:12] <usr13> Flying: You just have to go to the various PC to see what IP addres they are using
[13:12] <coz_> Flying,  you need to register your nick
[13:12] <bazhang> usr13, feel free to support him in ##hardware
[13:12] <bazhang> !register | Flying
[13:12] <bazhang> Flying, /join #freenode
[13:13] <Ianster_guy> What channel would be interested in sound upgrade bugs? #ayantana (user experience) ?
[13:13] <Flying> Well you guys were much help
[13:14] <Flying> I'll just go use my Windows now
[13:14] <LjL> Flying: then feel free to come back here to ask a Windows question later!
[13:14] <bazhang> Ianster_guy, alsa issues?
[13:14] <Ianster_guy> yea
[13:14] <coz_> Flying,  register you nick and you will be able to log onto #hardware
[13:14] <usr13> Flying: We wish you all the best.
[13:14] <coz_> Flying,  also ##linux
[13:15] <Ianster_guy> Hello my name is Ian and I'm a Ubuntu/windows user. On my Ubuntu desktop I have a usb surround sound card that stopped working after a upgrade. Who is interested in a problem like this or where do I drop a bug report
[13:15] <Ianster_guy> lol
[13:15] <usr13> !bug | Ianster_guy
[13:16] <DJHenjin> does ubuntu 11.04 have a firewall?
[13:16] <bazhang> DJHenjin, iptables
[13:16] <blz> DJHenjin:  yes, it's called iptables.
[13:16] <prabhakar> i installed mono develop sw ,i am difficult to find visuval design
[13:16] <usr13> DJHenjin: Not by default.  You can install a firewall script or use a firewall if you want.
[13:16] <bazhang> !firewall > DJHenjin
[13:16] <blz> DJHenjin, if you look on google, there are a lot of tutorials and graphical frontends.  There's also UFW, which I believe depends on iptables, but people have good results with that
[13:17] <DJHenjin> holy crap how many people just answered that?
[13:17] <blz> DJHenjin:  welcome to the community =)
[13:18] <blz> usr13:  i believe iptables is installed by default
[13:18] <spass> ufw too
[13:18] <usr13> DJHenjin: If you have a router between you and the internet, you are relatively safe.  Linux not near as vuneralbe as a MS Windows PC.
[13:18] <DJHenjin> ooooohhhh i really like ehcp
[13:18] <spass> blz: and yes, it depends on iptables.
[13:19] <usr13> blz: Yes, you are correct, iptables is installed by default.
[13:19] <usr13> blz: And iptables rules can be used for firewalling.
[13:20] <bazhang> !info gufw
[13:21] <usr13> A firewall for us linux users is basically a firewall script that uses iptables rules which is very effective.
[13:21] <neure> how do i change the menu font size on ubuntu classic?
[13:22] <ciphergoth> Is there a way to kill and restart the Unity launcher?  It keeps getting into various stupid states
[13:22] <neure> i have changed the application font size but menus are not affected
[13:22] <dr_willis> unity --reset
[13:22] <dr_willis> or unity --reset-icons
[13:25] <neure> there seems to be no way to change the menu font size :/
[13:25] <ashwin> when i open kubuntu i am getting:
[13:25] <ashwin> warning :cannot open consolekit session.failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system bus socket no such file or directory
[13:25] <bazhang> ashwin, open kubuntu? as in start up your system?
[13:25] <ashwin> yes
[13:26] <DJHenjin> anyone here use EHCP?
[13:26] <bazhang> DJHenjin, ask a real question please
[13:26] <bazhang> ashwin, normal install? dual boot, some details would help
[13:26] <DJHenjin> anyone here use EHCP that could help me out getting familiarised with it and properly setup?
[13:26] <ashwin> dual boot with windows 7
[13:27] <bazhang> !find ehcp
[13:27] <ashwin> speakers are not working and i cannot connect to internet
[13:27] <ashwin> volume control button is not showing.
[13:27] <ciphergoth> Wow, unity --reset meant that everything started to ignore clicks/keystrokes
[13:27] <bazhang> DJHenjin, how does that relate to ubuntu support
[13:27] <viddy> DJHenjin: how about, first you try it out yourself using documentation and the likes. And then when you actually run into PROBLEMS you could ask someone
[13:27] <ciphergoth> killing and restarting GDM and re-logging in has left me with no Unity launcher at all!
[13:27] <usr13> !sound | ashwin
[13:28] <ciphergoth> No, I tell a lie, launcher has finally reappeared, but broken
[13:28] <ashwin> ubottu:no volume applet
[13:29] <Ianster_guy> lol the bot
[13:30] <Ianster_guy> I suppose I do have a question while a try to file this bug report. When I have two sound cards and my alsa version looks like this Driver version:     1.0.23
[13:30] <Ianster_guy> Library version:    1.0.24.1
[13:30] <Ianster_guy> Utilities version:  1.0.24.2                   is it a sign that the versions are not aligned/working?
[13:30] <Ianster_guy> I read somewhere for old ubuntu
[13:31] <Ianster_guy> that they sould all be the same number
[13:31] <DJHenjin> heres a better question, EHCP can replace my existing email server web server MySQL server and FTP server all in one nice package correct?
[13:31] <ashwin> bazhang:my problem statred after update
[13:31] <bazhang> DJHenjin, thats not ubuntu specific try ##networking
[13:31] <Ianster_guy> lamp :-D
[13:32] <Ianster_guy> NM\
[13:34] <usr13> DJHenjin: http://ehcp.net/?q=node/794
[13:36] <ciphergoth> OK now my desktop is really quite screwed
[13:36] <sagaci> How come?
[13:36] <dr_willis> !details
[13:36] <ciphergoth> I moved all compiz related stuff out of  my .gconf/apps dir to try to get back to a sensible state
[13:36] <dr_willis> theres commands to reset compiz. and unity
[13:37] <PiX3L> Guys, accidentally I killed a something notification process from 'System Monitor' now, If I open xchat, vlc I don't see any of icons in Notification manager/top bar.
[13:37] <dr_willis> gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz-1          resets compiz  then this resets uinty -->          unity --reset
[13:37] <PiX3L> I want to restore that feature.
[13:37] <wonka_> xchat works on cygwin?
[13:37] <dr_willis> wonka_,  theres native windows xchat ports
[13:37] <ciphergoth> I'm running Natty Narwahl on x64.  My Launcher is very confused - a few shadowy icons at the top, and that's it.  Running the mouse down the side shows tooltips for icons though
[13:37] <dr_willis> well i guess you can call them native. :)
[13:37] <wonka_> ok
[13:37] <Sidewinder1> PiX3L, Did you try a reboot?
[13:38] <PiX3L> Sidewinder1: Yes.
[13:38] <Sidewinder1> :-(
[13:38] <ciphergoth> not the ones I set up myself, the defaults - LibreOffice calc etc
[13:38] <linux_> я куда попал?)
[13:38] <ciphergoth> dr_willis: will try that, thanks
[13:38] <bazhang> !ru | linux_
[13:38] <slinker1> wonka_: xchat-wdk works well on windows box here
[13:38] <dr_willis> Ive been using some of the KDE irc clients ported to windows lately
[13:39] <dr_willis> kvirc i think.
[13:39] <ciphergoth> dr_willis: I'm back to exactly where I was before
[13:39] <ashwin> i updated my kubuntu 11.04
[13:39] <ashwin> now my speakers are not working and i cannot connect to internet
[13:39] <ashwin> volume control button is not showing.
[13:39] <ashwin> at startup i am getting:
[13:39] <ashwin> warning :cannot open consolekit session.failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system bus socket no such file or directory
[13:39] <ashwin> please help
[13:39] <FloodBot1> ashwin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:39] <Clerisy> my window handles have all dissapeared
[13:39] <Clerisy> my window handles have all dissapeared
[13:40] <ciphergoth> Very very odd behaviour.  The tooltips appear where I would expect the icons to be, but far above where the mouse is - the lower the mouse, the greater the disparity
[13:40] <dr_willis> Clerisy,  alt-f2 run 'compiz --replace'
[13:40] <ashwin> i updated my kubuntu
[13:40] <ashwin> now my speakers are not working and i cannot connect to internet
[13:40] <ashwin> volume control button is not showing.
[13:40] <ciphergoth> Is there an equivalent of pastebin for screenshots?
[13:40] <bazhang> ashwin, dont repeat so quickly
[13:41] <Clerisy> dr_willis» still not there
[13:41] <bazhang> ciphergoth, imagebin and the like
[13:41] <Sidewinder1> !enter > ashwin
[13:41] <dr_willis> Clerisy,  try it from a terminal window. look for error messages, try alt-f2 and 'metacity --replace' also
[13:42] <Clerisy> thanks dr_willis :)
[13:42] <Clerisy> all fixed
[13:42] <cba123> I have a computer with a 2.6ghz dual-cpu dual-core xeon.  Whenever I boot up, it says it can't "speedstep", and the fans are always loud.  Is there anything I can do for this?
[13:42] <dr_willis> Clerisy,  meticity is  not exactly a 'fix' its the window manager without all the fancy eyecandy
[13:43] <dr_willis> Clerisy,  compiz requires the proper 3d drivers also. metacity does not.
[13:43] <Clerisy> ah
[13:43]  * ashwin slaps bazhang around a bit with a large trout
[13:43] <bazhang> ashwin, dont do that
[13:43] <ciphergoth> This is what I can see: http://imagebin.org/158724
[13:43] <Clerisy> dr_willis» is there a way i can move the close window minimize and maximize buttons to the right side? (currently at left)
[13:44] <dr_willis> !controls | Clerisy
[13:44] <ciphergoth> it's blank all the way down apart form that detail at the top
[13:44] <Clerisy> ty
[13:44] <ciphergoth> I don't have much config I care about, so I'm happy to wipe and restart, but I don't want to lose eg my IM accounts
[13:45] <Ianster_guy> LOL i'm not that skilled so I always reset gnome to defaults when I have error like that (Using a different metacity -replace that I found on google.)
[13:45] <ciphergoth> I've tried unity --replace and unity --replace-icons and compiz --replace and logging in and out and deleting my compiz config
[13:46] <dr_willis> make a new user - see if it actually works for them
[13:46] <ciphergoth> dr_willis: you mean me?
[13:46] <dr_willis> yes..
[13:46] <ciphergoth> OK
[13:46] <dr_willis> if all users have the same issue.. then its a system wide setting/problem. :)
[13:47] <ciphergoth> That's astonishing - no, it doesn't work for them
[13:47] <Ianster_guy> rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity
[13:47] <Clerisy> How can I install google chrome under ubuntu? it wont show up in the repos and when i downloaded the deb from google i didn't know what to do from there since i usually use deb package manager. so I tried running it with software manager and it just wouldnt install it
[13:47] <ciphergoth> how can that be?  I haven't changed anything - haven't touched root privs.
[13:47] <Ianster_guy> http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2007/02/14/how-to-reset-ubuntugnome-settings-to-defaults-without-re-installing/
[13:48] <dr_willis> Clerisy,  google has their own repos for it i recall.
[13:48] <ciphergoth> Maybe I should try a reboot
[13:48] <ciphergoth> Clerisy: but also see if "Chromium" meets your needs
[13:48] <dr_willis> if you doload a deb. you normally just douile click on the deb and it can install
[13:48] <Clerisy> ciphergoth» no
[13:48] <dr_willis> !chrome
[13:48] <Clerisy> !chrome
[13:48] <ciphergoth> Will reboot, bbiab, thanks
[13:48] <dr_willis> Chromium and chrome  seem virtuually identical to me these days..
[13:49] <Clerisy> i have configs for gchrome saved
[13:49] <dr_willis> I got my chrome's all 'synced' so every pc has the same configs. :)
[13:49] <ashwin> is there anything like restore point like windows in ubuntu
[13:49] <dr_willis> if its chromium or google chrome. same setup on all my pcs
[13:49] <Clerisy> hmm
[13:49] <wildman> hello there, I'm running 10.04 x86 and I need the 'capability' kernel module, 'modprobe capability' tells me that there's no such module. Compiling a custom kernel is the only solution I have?
[13:49] <Clerisy> any ideas on how i can go about getting chrome?
[13:50] <dr_willis> Clerisy,  google has an acutal repository for chrome you can use
[13:51] <Ianster_guy> love chrome it has everything built in
[13:51] <dr_willis> or download the chrome deb. and inztall it.
[13:51] <dr_willis> I think the .deb insables the proper repos also
[13:51] <dr_willis> http://www.google.com/chrome/eula.html?platform=linux
[13:52] <Clerisy> yeah, I tried
[13:52] <dr_willis>  --> Note: Installing Google Chrome will add the Google repository so your system will automatically keep Google Chrome up to date.
[13:52] <Clerisy> but Im used of using deb package managers
[13:52] <Clerisy> and software manager on ubuntu wont do it
[13:52] <rumen> hi everybody i am under ubuntu 11.04. i have installed ubuntu 10.04 LTS ob vurtualbox-ose. the problem is: how to map or mount from my guest linux machine the shared folder from my host machine linux ubuntu 11.04?
[13:52] <dr_willis> all you do is download the deb.. then double click on it.. or sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[13:52] <Clerisy> ty
[13:52] <dr_willis> or sudo gdebi foo.deb
[13:53] <dr_willis> software manager should do it also.
[13:54] <Clerisy> Processing triggers for python-support ...
[13:54] <Clerisy> Errors were encountered while processing:
[13:54] <Clerisy>  google-chrome-stable
[13:54] <Clerisy> Gah
[13:54] <FloodBot1> Clerisy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:54] <ashwin> is there a restore point in ubuntu?
[13:55] <sagaci> you need to install  extra packages for chrome to install properly
[13:55] <sveinse> Does ubuntu (natty) have any gnome tool for viewing man and info pages?
[13:55] <ciphergoth> a reboot fixed my problem! Of all things, I would never have guessed that6
[13:55] <ciphergoth> what persists across gdm stop/starts but not across reboots?
[13:55] <dr_willis> Clerisy,  what command did you use to isntall it?
[13:55] <Clerisy> dpkg -i
[13:55] <dr_willis> Clerisy,  try installing gdebi, and try it..
[13:55] <Clerisy> said no command
[13:56] <dr_willis> install it....
[13:56] <dr_willis> !info gdebi
[13:56] <Sidewinder1> ashwin, No restore point, per say; you should back-up, then you can "restore"...Afterall that's what restore does in windows. :-)
[13:56] <Clerisy> sudo: gdebi: command not found
[13:56] <Clerisy> sec
[13:56] <Clerisy> E: Unable to locate package gedbi
[13:56] <Clerisy> lol
[13:56] <Clerisy> typo
[13:57] <rumen> tell me how to mout a drive or folder which i shared with my virtual machine? my host machine is ubuntu 11.04 and my guest machine is ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[13:57] <Sidewinder1> !enter > Clerisy
[13:57] <rumen> tell me how to mount a drive or folder which i shared with my virtual machine? my host machine is ubuntu 11.04 and my guest machine is ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[13:57] <dr_willis> rumen,  using virtualbox? or vmware? or what?
[13:58] <rumen> i am usin' virtualbox, i have installed virtual addition in linux ubuntu 10,04 guest machine
[13:58] <dr_willis> you could just access the other system via the networking features. ie: samba/nfs/sshfs
[13:58] <Clerisy> Ok. gdebi worked. Thanks again dr_willis
[13:59] <kontolgede> rumen: install samba
[13:59] <ashwin> is there a way i can restore ubuntu
[13:59] <dr_willis> firtualbox manual details the proper mount command to mount a 'share' from the host os thats set up that way. I dont recall the sysntax
[13:59] <dr_willis> ashwin,  be more clear in what you wan tto do.
[13:59] <ashwin> like restore pint in windows
[13:59] <rumen> i want to use virtual machine ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[13:59] <dr_willis> ashwin,  thers no feature like that   - that i have ever seen.
[14:00] <dr_willis> ashwin,  its normally just not needed.
[14:00] <joru> Hi, i'm trying to configure some automatic backup-strategy, been using crontab for time-driven backup successfully. now i'm wondering if i should use event-driven instead, as in executing the script upon login.
[14:00] <sipior> ashwin: typically such things are accomplished through lvm snapshots, but you'll have to set that up in advance.
[14:01] <joru> what is the "best" approach, use the /etc/.profile file ?
[14:01] <Clerisy> What's the default font? I accidently changed it earlier
[14:01] <ashwin> is there a way i can delete update?
[14:01] <dr_willis> joru,  it would all depend on the details, how, who, how much, and so forth
[14:02] <bazhang> ashwin, rollback? no
[14:02] <sipior> ashwin: reverting a system to a pre-update state would require filesystem snapshots. like i said, if you set up lvm snapshots in advance, you can get that functionality.
[14:02] <ashwin> after update at startup i am getting this warning :cannot open consolekit session.failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system bus
[14:02] <dr_willis> Unless ashwin  is meaning update in a differnt way.
[14:02] <joru> dr_willis: ok, i've got multiple users on multiple computers. right now i've got a strategy for all those users using crontab.
[14:03] <dr_willis> ashwin,  so its a warning? or is there some other actual problem?
[14:03] <zaksoldier> Hi all
[14:03] <bazhang> ashwin, perhaps try in #kubuntu
[14:03] <Clerisy> What's the default font? I accidently changed it earlier
[14:03] <joru> dr_willis: i was wondering if i should run it upon user login (interactive at first), or maybe after a few mins
[14:03] <ashwin> bazhang:they say #ubuntu
[14:04] <dr_willis> joru,  what if the user logs in 4 times in quick session. Like via ssh. :) lots of things to watch out for.
[14:04] <bazhang> ashwin, you said earlier you were using kubuntu when you got this error
[14:04] <sipior> joru: also, do you really want to slow the system down with a lot of disk activity right after a user logs in?
[14:04] <joru> dr_willis: yes both issues are true
[14:04] <Clerisy> d(*⌒▽⌒*)b
[14:05] <dr_willis> joru,  and proberly a dozen other potential issues to watch out for. :)
[14:05] <joru> dr_willis: :) well i just want to secure the data
[14:05] <ashwin> bazhang, i mean users in #kubuntu recomended #ubuntu
[14:05] <joru> dr_willis: problem is that the users login very infrequently
[14:05] <joru> dr_willis: thus time-driven is not "safe"
[14:06] <joru> dr_willis: (i must tell you that im learning bash/cron atm)
[14:06] <Clerisy> What's the default font?
[14:06] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[14:06] <joru> dr_willis: but maybe i could use a script to check when the user data was backuped last
[14:06] <joru> dr_willis: and then act accordingly?
[14:06] <dr_willis> joru,  i think rsync/fsarchiver can allready do that
[14:07] <dr_willis> Clerisy,  i think its the 'ubuntu' font :)
[14:07] <joru> dr_willis: ok, i'll do some more reading of those details
[14:07] <joru> dr_willis: thanx
[14:07] <Clerisy> doesnt look right
[14:07] <ashwin> any one know what causes warning :cannot open consolekit session.failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system bus
[14:07] <bazhang> http://mikebeach.org/2011/06/default-font-packages-installed-on-ubuntu-11-04-natty/ Clerisy
[14:08] <linux_> есть здесь русские?!
[14:08] <dr_willis> ashwin,  is this warning keeping somthing from running? or is there just a warning ane you dont like the text?
[14:08] <ashwin> de_willis:my audio,network connection is not working
[14:09] <bazhang> linux_, in #ubuntu-ru
[14:09] <ericP> linux_, i doubt go
[14:09] <dr_willis> ashwin,  i am not sure those are related to that warning.
[14:09] <ericP> s/go/it/
[14:10] <ashwin> dr_willis:i am getting all these after update
[14:10] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[14:10] <bazhang> linux_, /join #ubuntu-ru
[14:10] <ericP> i'm using compiz with the standard (as in i didn't tweak anything) network controller interface (puts the the wifi icon in the main menu bar)
[14:10] <dr_willis> ashwin,  its possible some update broke things.. but i am not sure that consolekit would be the core of  your problem.
[14:10] <ericP> after a couple days, the menu that comes up when clicking the wifi icon is unresponsive (no meny selections do anything except for [More Netorks] and [VPN Connections], which paint a tiny empty box)
[14:10] <Tetracomm> Ever since I uninstalled Pulseaudio and reinstalled it I don't see a volume control icon in the notification area anymore. Help?
[14:10] <ericP> how do i restart this tool in hopes of restoring network control without having to log out?
[14:10] <ericP> (whatever restarts implied by reinstalling network-manager-gnome didn't do the trick)
[14:10] <ashwin> dr_willis:so what am i suppose to do?
[14:11] <ericP> (occurred after a 10.10 to 11.04 upgrade)
[14:11] <NattyUser> hello, i was wondering if anyone could help me. I am using natty. My problem is that my hp integrated laptop is not working. I've tried troubleshooting, but to no avail. Can anyone help?
[14:11] <Clerisy> none of these look like the default one when i installed it bazhang
[14:11] <bazhang> Clerisy, nonetheless those are the default ones
[14:11] <Clerisy> I think it was sans 10
[14:11] <Clerisy> thanks though
[14:12] <ebytvm> hi room
[14:12] <theadmin> Hello, ebytvm
[14:12] <ashwin> do i need to reinstall ubuntu
[14:12] <ebytvm> Im new here... :)..... how do I get into rooms of interest :)
[14:13] <NattyUser> so...does anyone know how to go about troubleshooting the webcam?
[14:13] <bazhang> !alis | ebytvm
[14:13] <bazhang> !webcam | NattyUser check this list
[14:13] <ebytvm> thx :)
[14:13] <PythonSnake> hi
[14:14] <PythonSnake> is Ubuntu good for programming with Python ?
[14:14] <bazhang> PythonSnake, sure, why not
[14:14] <PythonSnake> I'm using Windows 7 atm
[14:14] <Kartagis> why do I get No username specified with the line //campus01/mtozses		/mnt/t			  cifs	  user,credentials=/root/.mtozses 0	  0 in /etc/fstab?
[14:14] <PythonSnake> why is it better than windows
[14:14] <bazhang> PythonSnake, thats not really on topic here
[14:15] <PythonSnake> bazhang: ?
[14:15] <NattyUser> hi bazhang, would you mind pointing me in the proper channel/direction regarding my integrated webcam issues?
[14:15] <bazhang> PythonSnake, try it and decide
[14:15] <bazhang> NattyUser, check the webcam link
[14:15] <PythonSnake> ..
[14:15] <sharat87> Hello, my gnome-terminal does not seem to defferentiate between C-z and C-S-z, is there a way I can make it differenciate these two?
[14:15] <slakcphil> slacker_nl, my broskie?
[14:15] <Kartagis> PythonSnake, for one, you can customize ubuntu the way you like and you can't windows
[14:15] <Clerisy> How do I remove this scroll bar thinga-ma-jig?
[14:16] <bazhang> Clerisy, unity? use classic from login window
[14:16] <Clerisy> kk
[14:16] <BluesKaj> PythonSnake, maybe the python channel can help you with your decision
[14:16] <NattyUser> hi bazhang, i did. i tried redownloading uvcvideo modules, but to no avail. i have a chicony webcam, but the problem is that when i open cheese, it says no device found
[14:16] <PythonSnake> hm ok
[14:16] <PythonSnake> thx
[14:17] <ebytvm> :D
[14:18] <ashwin> bazhang:do i need to reinstall kubuntu
[14:19] <ashwin> bazhang:please help
[14:20] <bazhang> ashwin, try creating a new user and testing that way
[14:21] <osmosis_paul> Somebody know if there's any cool application in ubuntu to control the PC by voice???
[14:21] <Clerisy> dr_willis» you were right. The metacity thing was only a temp fix
[14:22] <osmosis_paul> and how go the Kinect implementation in ubuntu some beta to work with it?, i'm thinking in buy a Kinect only if there's any project open
[14:23] <Ianster_guy> Clerisy, The metacity the one I used to fix gnome was permanent.
[14:23] <Clerisy> huh
[14:24] <dr_willis> metacity is not compiz. they are both window managers. but differnt :)
[14:24] <Ianster_guy> but the commands I use are alot longer Google search "reset defaults gnome"
[14:24] <Clerisy> Any idea how to perm fix the problem dr_willis ?
[14:24] <Ianster_guy> some don't work
[14:24] <dr_willis> Clerisy,  run compiz --replace, from a termial. look for error messages..
[14:25] <Kartagis> why do I get No username specified with the line //campus01/mtozses		/mnt/t			  cifs	  user,credentials=/root/.mtozses 0	  0 in /etc/fstab?
[14:25] <Sidewinder1> osmosis_paul, Have a look at pocketsphynx
[14:26] <Ianster_guy> Clerisy, I'm a noob BTW:P
[14:26]  * Kartagis wave to Xano 
[14:26] <Kartagis> waves*
[14:26] <ntr0py> Are there any problems suspected when installing Natty x64 from usb stick (start media creator from iso image)?
[14:27] <dr_willis> ntr0py,  i normally insatll from usb drives..
[14:27] <dr_willis> faster then from cd
[14:27] <tumbes2000> Worked fine for me
[14:28] <ntr0py> dr_willis: exactly, i just had weird kernel freezes last time i tried to do that with natty
[14:28] <tumbes2000> Usb stick install that is
[14:28] <Clerisy> dr_willis» http://pastebin.com/CLXTLRBH
[14:29] <dr_willis> bbl
[14:29] <Clerisy> ( ´,_ゝ`)
[14:29] <Clerisy> mfw
[14:32] <ntr0py> dr_willis: Since i always need to set the nomodeset parameter for any fresh ubuntu installs on my box (to get GUI), would you suspect the kernel freezes comming from the X.org or nouveau drivers? I am thinking about installing the nvidia-current drivers from ubuntu-x-swat repo, restarting gdm and trying to install from there...
[14:34] <ashwin> bazang:i created new user but no use
[14:34] <ashwin> bazhang:new user also have same problem
[14:37] <Sidewinder1> ashwin, Perhaps, the best thing to try is back-up all of your video, music, docs., etc...and reinstall ubuntu.
[14:38] <Sidewinder1> ashwin, Or kubuntu, as the case may be.
[14:38] <dlyneswork> I'm having problems getting Ubuntu 10.04 to boot up on a particular machine.  What's getting output to the screen is something to do with AppArmor.  However, I don't believe it's AppArmor that's causing the problem, because it's at a random place in AppArmor every time.  Anyone know what it might be?  Fwiw, the drive checks seem to be complete when this happens.
[14:39] <ashwin> Sidewinder1:is it possible to creater backup of themes and config files
[14:39] <Tetracomm> Ever since I uninstalled Pulseaudio and reinstalled it I don't see a volume control icon in the notification area anymore. Help?
[14:40] <Sidewinder1> ashwin, I'm sure there is but I don't know the exact steps to perform same. :-(...Sorry.
[14:41] <tilerendering> hi - I m on Ubuntu Hardy 8.04 - when doing a apt-get install subversion it "leaves" my subversion on version 1.4.6 instead of the current 1.6.* releases. 1.4.6 is the state of 2009. is this normal ? or am I doing something wrong with the apt-get install command
[14:41] <bazhang> tilerendering, thats normal
[14:41] <iceroot> tilerendering: you will only get security updates within an ubuntu-version
[14:41] <dlyneswork> tilerendering, you're stuck with whatever version Hardy uses
[14:41] <tilerendering> oh
[14:41] <iceroot> !backports | tilerendering
[14:42] <bazhang> tilerendering, why not at least upgrade to 10.04 if not 11.04
[14:42] <iceroot> bazhang: never touch a running system :)
[14:42] <ntr0py> Tetracomm: maybe you could try to reset the gnome panel: "gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/panel" and "pkill gnome-panel"
[14:42] <dlyneswork> bazhang, he's on hardy because it's LTS, I'm guessing...and also iceroot's point, too :o
[14:42] <jiltdil> Ny channel for computer architecture?
[14:42] <iceroot> dlyneswork: 10.04 is lts too
[14:42] <Sidewinder1> ashwin, I know it's after the fact, but, the best way to avoid this problem in the future is to back-up your home directory to an external drive; that way a reinstall will retain all of your settings and configs; once you have copied your home to the new install.
[14:42] <bazhang> !alis | jiltdil
[14:43] <dlyneswork> iceroot, yeah...but like you said...if it ain't broke, don't fix it
[14:43] <bazhang> dlyneswork, 10.04 is lts
[14:43] <ZykoticK9> Tetracomm, see if there is a gnome-audio package in Ubuntu, it "might" help.  Good luck.
[14:43] <Maimster> Morning all.
[14:43] <iceroot> tilerendering: but remeber, hardy 8.04 desktop version is out of security updates
[14:44] <tilerendering> how would I enable hardy backports in /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:44] <omegaphi> hi folks, I am using phpmyadmin on ubuntu, but it is asking me to enter username and password, when I have set no password. What do I do? Please help :)
[14:44] <dlyneswork> iceroot, what's the difference between the normal version, desktop version, laptop version, and server version, anyways?  Just what packages get installed?
[14:45] <iceroot> dlyneswork: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[14:45] <bazhang> tilerendering, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the # in front
[14:45] <jrib> !repos > tilerendering
[14:45] <tilerendering> thanks
[14:45] <iceroot> dlyneswork: desktop comes without a gui and with a pae-kernel by default.
[14:45] <iceroot> dlyneswork: sorry, server
[14:45] <iceroot> dlyneswork: but they all use the same repos
[14:45] <Kartagis> why do I get No username specified with the line //campus01/mtozses		/mnt/t			  cifs	  user,credentials=/root/.mtozses 0	  0 in /etc/fstab?
[14:45] <bazhang> dlyneswork, as of 11.04 the netbook is no more
[14:45] <dlyneswork> iceroot, ah...so that's the only difference
[14:46] <iceroot> dlyneswork: between server and desktop, yes
[14:46] <bazhang> dlyneswork, its unity all the way down
[14:46] <tilerendering> any recommandable hardy backport repository ?
[14:46] <dlyneswork> bazhang, that's good...I think someone gave me one of those installs, and it gave me a completely fubared install...never rebooted properly...always had to do a full shutdown, followed by a power up
[14:46] <iceroot> tilerendering: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[14:46] <tilerendering> becasue there are none in my plist
[14:46] <Kartagis> *sigh*
[14:46] <bazhang> tilerendering, check iceroot above
[14:47] <dlyneswork> bazhang, something to do with unloading the kernel and reloading the kernel
[14:47] <tilerendering> oh
[14:47] <tilerendering> thanks iceroot
[14:47] <iceroot> tilerendering: no problem
[14:48] <obscurant1st> my system sometime, logs off on its own! :o
[14:49] <JoFo> Hello everybody.
[14:49] <JoFo> I wonder whether gucharmap (Ubuntu’s default character map in the version with Gnome) has been updated to support the new Unicode 6.0 characters.
[14:49] <JoFo> If that’s so, would it be possible to easily update gucharmap while remaining on Maverick ?
[14:50] <bazhang> JoFo, search for a ppa I suppose
[14:50] <iceroot> JoFo: ppa or backports
[14:50] <omegaphi> *reposting*  I am using phpmyadmin on ubuntu, but it is asking me to enter username and password, when I have set no password. What do I do? Please help :)
[14:50] <iceroot> omegaphi: its the mysql-user
[14:51] <natrixnatrix89> hello. I'm running ubuntu on a very slow pc. Is there a list of processes I could kill to make it run faster?
[14:51] <iceroot> omegaphi: normally root with a password (not the root from ubuntu)
[14:51] <iceroot> natrixnatrix89: you can see with "top" and "ps aux" waht is running but killing randomly is a bad idea
[14:51] <bazhang> natrixnatrix89, why not try lubuntu-desktop then
[14:51] <compdoc> natrixnatrix89, just curious - is it slow to boot?
[14:51] <usr13> natrixnatrix89: X
[14:51] <natrixnatrix89> not really
[14:52] <natrixnatrix89> the pc is decent.
[14:52] <tilerendering> oh
[14:52] <natrixnatrix89> but when I bought it, it was one of the cheapest
[14:52] <bazhang> natrixnatrix89, ubuntu is not really designed for slow, old or low ram computers
[14:52] <tilerendering> I forgot: how do I mv a whole dir with the mv command ?
[14:52] <usr13> natrixnatrix89: Are you running gnome?
[14:52] <natrixnatrix89> yep
[14:52] <natrixnatrix89> gnome
[14:52] <natrixnatrix89> what is lubuntu using?
[14:52] <usr13> natrixnatrix89: xfce4
[14:52] <compdoc> does anyone find that 11.04 is slow to boot on old PCs?
[14:52] <omegaphi> iceroot : but I didn't create any mysql user too, everything is default!
[14:53] <ZykoticK9> natrixnatrix89, lubuntu uses LXDE
[14:53] <usr13> compdoc: natrixnatrix89 does
[14:53] <natrixnatrix89> faster than xfce?
[14:53] <bazhang> natrixnatrix89, you could try xubuntu, but that is hardly any lighter, lubuntu is the best bet
[14:53] <ZykoticK9> natrixnatrix89, much
[14:53] <natrixnatrix89> cool
[14:53] <The_Pugilist> anyone know of any good free C++ IDE's
[14:53] <natrixnatrix89> so I can just install package lubuntu-desktop, and then just switch to it when logging in?
[14:53] <jpainter> natrixnatrix89: switching window managers helps a lot...try openbox.
[14:54] <bazhang> natrixnatrix89, install the package lubuntu-desktop
[14:54] <xokvictor> hi all, i have a problem
[14:54] <bazhang> xokvictor, then ask a question
[14:54] <natrixnatrix89> bazhang: so I can just install package lubuntu-desktop, and then just switch to it when logging in?
[14:54] <iceroot> omegaphi: then its root with an empty password
[14:54] <bazhang> natrixnatrix89, yep
[14:54] <natrixnatrix89> thanks
[14:55] <bazhang> !ide | The_Pugilist
[14:55] <bazhang> The_Pugilist, they are all free
[14:55] <xokvictor> when i look flash movies online (for example youtube) after some minutes the screen make black and pc locked
[14:55] <bazhang> xokvictor, disable compiz for one
[14:55] <The_Pugilist> sweet :)
[14:55] <The_Pugilist> ty bazhang
[14:56] <xokvictor> bazhang, nooooo )
[14:56] <bazhang> xokvictor, and set screensaver to a longer time
[14:56] <xokvictor> this is bad way
[14:56] <xokvictor> bazhang,
[14:56] <bazhang> xokvictor, try it
[14:57] <MK``> I'm installing VLC but its progress in the software center seems to be stuck at 50%... how can I check if it's stuck due to some bug?
[14:57] <xokvictor> in  Windows when i looking online movies screensaver is not locked pc
[14:57] <bazhang> xokvictor, that means nothing, this is not windows
[14:58] <xokvictor> i know, but.. i want this function in ubuntu
[14:58] <xokvictor> bazhang,
[14:58] <bazhang> xokvictor, then follow my suggestions
[14:58] <jbennett-home> t
[14:58] <usr13> natrixnatrix89: I recommend lubuntu-desktop  It is a lot like gnome anyway.  It's pretty nice and very fast.
[14:59] <natrixnatrix89> yeah. I'm downloading it now
[14:59] <natrixnatrix89> thanks
[14:59] <xokvictor> bazhang, if i looking movie more than 40 minutes.. i need set sreensaver in >40 min?
[15:00] <bazhang> xokvictor, try it and see
[15:00] <xokvictor> ok, thank you
[15:00] <xokvictor> bazhang,
[15:00] <MK``> Please, I need help to know if this is frozen, and if I can safely kill it
[15:00] <bazhang> MK``, what does top in terminal show
[15:01] <MK``> Software center is on top, seems to be doing something.
[15:01] <MK``> I am just scared it's stuck in a loop
[15:01] <usr13> MK``: May be just that the download has been sopped for some reason.
[15:01] <bazhang> MK``, let it error out, or wait a bit longer, then try from command line
[15:02] <MK``> It's at "Applying changes"
[15:02] <bazhang> MK``, then dont kill it
[15:02] <MK``> ok.
[15:02] <usr13> MK``: vlc is pretty complicate app
[15:04] <MK``> It's just been like this for almost 10 minutes without the bar moving
[15:04] <bazhang> MK``, killing it now may break some packages
[15:05] <MK``> Is there some failsafe to abort after a certain time?
[15:05] <jpainter> MK``, in my experience it takes a good long while until it finally times out, but it eventually will.
[15:05] <MK``> ok
[15:06] <MK``> :O I closed the software center (just the UI) and reopened it and the bar was farther along, and is now moving
[15:06] <MK``> ...and it finished instantly. Touche, Linux.
[15:09] <sungji> hi, unfoortunately I've got to use the "acerhk" driver to enable the WIFI of my Fujitsy AMILO laptop. I was using acerhkgui before (in 9.10) but with natty it doesn't seem to work correctly
[15:09] <sungji> do you have any idea on how to enable acerhk wifi?
[15:10] <omegaphi> iceroot : root with empty password isn't working :(
[15:11] <iceroot> omegaphi: set a mysql password
[15:11] <iceroot> omegaphi: imo phpmyadmin is not allowing the default root with empty password
[15:12] <iceroot> omegaphi: phpmyadmin is using the same credentials as "mysql -u root -p"
[15:12] <omegaphi> iceroot : how do I set a mysql password?
[15:12] <codinGenesis> LOVE to be back here......!!
[15:12] <codinGenesis> i was banned because of open proxy thing....!!!
[15:12] <braiam> why my keyring deposit isn't unblocked at login? is annoying write my pass 4 times
[15:14] <iceroot> omegaphi: mysqladmin -u root password NEWPASSWORD
[15:15] <iceroot> omegaphi: better is to write the password in a file and use mysqladmin -u root password $(cat file-with-password)  or delete the history-entry after
[15:16] <Klunk> Hi guys, is anyone here running Lord of the Ring Online through wine on Ubuntu?
[15:17] <iceroot> !appdb | Klunk
[15:17] <Klunk> ok thanks, I can get the app running but have a few issues, I will give that a try
[15:18] <sungji> sudo lshw -C network finds my AR5001 wireless network adapter, and says it's *-network DISABLED <-- how can I enable it?
[15:19] <tilerendering> ok all work done - almost.
[15:19] <omegaphi> iceroot : I think my mysql server isn't running, what's the command to do it?
[15:19] <tilerendering> now the only thing which is worrying me is that I run subversion 1.5.1 instead of the current 1.6.17.
[15:19] <inashdeen> Hi guys, I need an advice on how to do this. I just wrote a really simple program using the BUC programming language. I am a newbie who does not have any background in programming. I don’t know how to write in python, jav a nor C+. the question is, how do I convert my created software into a .deb package. Its dependencies are BUC programming language and the logkyeys. But I want to make it an offline installation since I alread
[15:19] <tilerendering> should I use a different backport repo ?
[15:19] <tilerendering> it upgraded, but not far enough
[15:20] <edbian> sungji: I'm not sure if it's just not turned on or if the driver is missing.  Can you pastebin lspci -k for me?
[15:20] <wonka_> xchat is troubling me
[15:20] <sungji> edbian: yeah, hang on :)
[15:21] <edbian> sungji: sure
[15:21] <Klunk> Guys is this the place to resolve issues with nvidia drivers as well?
[15:21] <BluesKaj> Klunk, what issue ?
[15:21] <iceroot> omegaphi: what ubuntu version?
[15:21] <inashdeen_> Hi guys, I need an advice on how to do this. I just wrote a really simple program using the BUC programming language. I am a newbie who does not have any background in programming. I don’t know how to write in python, jav a nor C+.
[15:22] <inashdeen_> the question is, how do I convert my created software into a .deb package. Its dependencies are BUC programming language and the logkyeys. But I want to make it an offline installation since I already got the logkeys source as well as the BUC .deb.
[15:22] <omegaphi> iceroot : 10
[15:22] <iceroot> inashdeen_: man debhelper
[15:22] <edbian> inashdeen: Knowing other programming languages or not will not be an issue.  (it's c++ by the way, not c+)    Making a debian package (unfortunately) is not easy: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/
[15:22] <iceroot> omegaphi: sudo service mysql start   or maybe sudo service mysql-server start
[15:22] <braiam> why my keyring deposit isn't unblocked at login? is annoying write my pass 4 times
[15:23] <iceroot> inashdeen_: with dh_make its relativ easy to build your own deb
[15:23] <Klunk> Well I am running natty and the Addition Drivers keeps telling me the driver is activated but not in use. I have installed the latest driver from the Nvidia site and I get graphics. But I want to make sure I am using the correct driver
[15:23] <Klunk> how can I check
[15:23] <inashdeen_> edbian : and what is the differencib and usr/sharee between /usr/l
[15:23] <iceroot> braiam: auto-login? key-ring has the same password as the user-password?
[15:23] <edbian> inashdeen_: /usr/l/  ?  That's not a thing
[15:23] <sungji> edbian: http://pastebin.com/5ZW7MqKY
[15:23] <inashdeen_> edbian : and what is the difference between /usr/lib and usr/share. sorry
[15:24] <braiam> iceroot: no, i don't use auto login, and yes is the same
[15:24] <edbian> sungji: It says we're using ath5k  Can you run sudo iwlist scan for me?  What does it say ?  (just summarize please)
[15:25] <introuble> in office 2010 . theres no powerpoint ?
[15:25] <Wolfsherz> hi, can someone please help me with my graphic issues? catalyst control center reports, that i have an ati mobility radeon hd 4200 installed at my laptop. but there is a mobility radeon hd 5650 installed. it also reports i have got 320 mb of video ram, but installed is 1gb dedicated... graphic performance is overall slow and windows stutter when dragging them.
[15:25] <sungji> edbian: for lo, eth0 it says" Interface doesn't support scanning.
[15:25] <omegaphi> iceroot : http://codepad.org/HJpwRrf5 :(
[15:25] <sungji> edbian: for wlan0 it says: Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down
[15:26] <edbian> inashdeen_: /usr/share/ is platform independent stuff.  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/HighQuality-Apps-HOWTO/fhs.html
[15:26] <iceroot> omegaphi: output of "ps aux | grep mysql"
[15:26] <edbian> sungji: I think the driver is not working.  Can you pastebin lsmod ?  It will show me if the card is actually using ath5k or not
[15:27] <omegaphi> iceroot : http://codepad.org/bB8FHYdy
[15:28] <iceroot> omegaphi: you have not installed mysql-server thrugh apt-get
[15:28] <mgj> the opensshd server (service) is installed by default in the newest ubuntu, yes?
[15:28] <shishirdwivedi20> ubuntu runs exactly same command as red hat linux ?
[15:28] <iceroot> !repo | omegaphi
[15:28] <iceroot> mgj: no
[15:28] <mgj> iceroot, no? okay, thanks
[15:28] <iceroot> mgj: only on the server-edition
[15:28] <mgj> oh okay
[15:28] <iceroot> shishirdwivedi20: on bash, yes, rest no
[15:29] <Abhijit> hi
[15:29] <sungji> edbian: http://pastebin.com/u8CcJKcs
[15:29] <inashdeen> edbian: so where do i actually install the software. and how do i get it automatically recorded on menu registry??
[15:29] <Abhijit> whats the cd command to go up one directory?
[15:29] <iceroot> omegaphi: best is to remove your mysql-installation and use "sudo apt-get install mysql-server"
[15:29] <iceroot> Abhijit: cd ..
[15:29] <shishirdwivedi20> iceroot : you are talking about command line interface
[15:29] <iceroot> shishirdwivedi20: the bash, yes
[15:29] <Abhijit> iceroot, thanks
[15:29] <edbian> inashdeen: The actual binaries go in /usr/bin and /usr/lib/
[15:30] <beli> hi there...while trying to install 11.04 32bit from an usb cdrom i get this error: Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (8,1)...any ideas?
[15:30] <sungji> edbian: I also modprobed acer_wmi ...
[15:30] <shishirdwivedi20> iceroot  : thanx for help coz i am learning on CLI mode  red hat
[15:30] <sungji> edbian: used by 0 is not good, right?
[15:30] <edbian> sungji: I'm guessing that's bad, yes
[15:30] <iceroot> shishirdwivedi20: #redhat
[15:31] <shishirdwivedi20> iceroot  yes i am learning redhat
[15:31] <iceroot> shishirdwivedi20: and if you want to lean bash use #bash
[15:31] <codinGenesis> guys i was banned due to open proxy so pls confirm that u all can hear me....
[15:31] <omegaphi> iceroot : I did this yeasterday
[15:31] <omegaphi> iceroot : yesterday*
[15:31] <sungji> edbian:hm what do I do now?
[15:31] <Pici> codinGenesis: Yes, we read you.
[15:31] <iceroot> omegaphi: the line you posted is not an apt-get installation
[15:31] <edbian> sungji: I'm thinking and researching.  Hang on.
[15:31] <sungji> edbian: oh ok, thanks for doing this
[15:32] <omegaphi> iceroot : how do I uninstall it? from synaptic pack. manager?
[15:32] <codinGenesis> Pici: Thanks !!! :) :) :) :) :)
[15:32] <edbian> sungji: sure
[15:32] <codinGenesis> really glad to be back.......
[15:32] <iceroot> omegaphi: i dont know, i dont know where your mysql-installation came from
[15:34] <inashdeen> edbian : so do i install my software into usr/share or usr/bin ???
[15:34] <jswensen> I have probably installed Ubuntu 100 times and have never seen this problem.  I am trying to boot off the standard install CD.  I am unable to select the options for booting as a live cd, installing, or checking the media.  I can, however, select the memory check and boot to hd option.  This is a newer Dell laptop.  Any suggestions?
[15:34] <edbian> inashdeen: You do if you're using the debian package.
[15:35] <edbian> inashdeen: If you're doing a manual installation then you put it in /usr/local/bin/
[15:35] <PiX3L> Guys, Accidentally, I killed a Process from System Monitor, it was something related to notifications. From that time, I'm not getting any notifications on the top-bar. It doesn't shows me any apps icons. like VLC, XCHAT or even the Active Connection. Except that, everything is working as a fresh install. I'd restarted my system later but it's still the same. I want to restore the system. Please, tell me if there's any solution.
[15:35] <edbian> sungji: Mmmm.  The documentation I'm finding says to use ath5k:  http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/ath5k/devices?highlight=%28ar242x%29
[15:35] <beli> jwheare: verify md5 sum of your download
[15:35] <edbian> sungji: Still researching
[15:35] <beli> s/jwheare/jswenson/
[15:35] <inashdeen> edbian : next, where di i cd .desktop file to make it appear automatically in the menu system?
[15:35] <edbian> sungji: sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[15:36] <edbian> inashdeen: I don't know.  You'll have to figure that one out on your own.
[15:36] <sungji> edbian: it says: SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not possible due to RF-kill
[15:36] <jswensen> beli: It is the same CD I used on an install just a week ago on a different machine
[15:37] <clusterfusk> My girlfriend decided not to wait for my instructions to burn a disc image.  Instead, she put the freaking 180MB .iso file on the disc, wasting her last CD.  after ubuntu has written files from the integrated drag'n'drop interface, is it possible to write a disc image to the same disc as multi-session, deactivating the previously written track?
[15:37] <inashdeen> hi, anyone know where do i put a .desktop file in ubuntu to make it appear in the menu? i want to make it ( kinda) automatic installation rather than right click on the menu and edit menus
[15:37] <ytoox> join irc.freenode.org
[15:38] <edbian> sungji: sudo iwconfig
[15:38] <Gnea> clusterfusk: if it's a CDR, no
[15:38] <sungji> edbian: i did: sudo rfkill unblock 0 and 1
[15:38] <sungji> edbian: now it works
[15:38] <sungji> :)
[15:38] <sungji> edbian: also, I found this: http://axcoto.com/blog/article/tag/siocsifflags-operation-not-possible-due-to-rf-kill
[15:38] <edbian> sungji: I just found that too: http://axcoto.com/blog/article/tag/siocsifflags-operation-not-possible-due-to-rf-kill
[15:38] <edbian> sungji: horray!
[15:38] <clusterfusk> Gnea: Are we clear on what a multi-session disc is?
[15:38] <edbian> stop that!
[15:39] <edbian> creepy
[15:39] <n0gear> how can i edit desktop switcher settings? need all dtops to be in same line, so i can use just two key combos to go left and right. Dont want go down or up at all
[15:39] <edbian> ...
[15:39] <sungji> edbian: :)
[15:39] <PiX3L> Guys, Accidentally, I killed a Process from System Monitor, it was something related to notifications. From that time, I'm not getting any notifications on the top-bar. It doesn't shows me any apps icons. like VLC, XCHAT or even the Active Connection. Except that, everything is working as a fresh install. I'd restarted my system later but it's still the same. I want to restore the system. Please, tell me if there's any solution.
[15:39] <Gnea> clusterfusk: are you clear on the difference between a CDR and CDRW is?
[15:39] <MACscr> ok, so i added a ppa using add-apt-repository, but now i found out it doesnt have a natty repo. For some reason though ppa-purge cant find it, but its still showing the error for the ppa when i run apt-get update
[15:39] <rypervenche> PiX3L: Just restart
[15:39] <PiX3L> rypervenche: I had several restarts.
[15:39] <sungji> edbian: this laptop does have a fn+1 mechanism to enable WIFI. is it possible to automate the loading during boot?
[15:39] <clusterfusk> Gnea: you can't erase a CD-R, which is not what I'm trying to do.
[15:40] <PiX3L> rypervenche: That didn't work.
[15:40] <edbian> sungji: It should remember the state of that button.  I suspect you hit it (on accident) or something and we just turned it back on using rfkill
[15:40] <Gnea> clusterfusk: once the laser has written the final burn instruction, the CDR is done. there is no changing.
[15:40] <lostern> How do I use the install cd as a recovery cd?
[15:40] <MACscr> Gnea: you can do multi sessions on a disc if you dont close it out
[15:41] <Wolfsherz> hi, can someone please help me with my graphic issues? catalyst control center reports, that i have an ati mobility radeon hd 4200 installed at my laptop. but there is a mobility radeon hd 5650 installed. it also reports i have got 320 mb of video ram, but installed is 1gb dedicated... graphic performance is overall slow and windows stutter when dragging them.
[15:41] <MACscr> you just cant write over already used areas
[15:41] <Gnea> MACscr: but will he be able to boot with it into the OS?
[15:41] <zertyuio> hello there
[15:41] <zertyuio> what is the default mail server on ubuntu ?
[15:41] <sungji> edbian: pushing the button on "AcerHK GUI" enables the wlan led... unfortunately, i don't know what it exactly loads when the button is pressed
[15:41] <MACscr> Gnea: probably not. No reason to do multisession on a boot disc
[15:42] <Gnea> MACscr: sounds of slashdot had that feature
[15:42] <clusterfusk> Gnea: Please read this and refrain from trying to answer questions that you don't know about: http://www.osta.org/technology/cdqa2.htm
[15:42] <edbian> sungji: The button affects rfkill is my guess (rfkill just blocks it from running)
[15:42] <Gnea> clusterfusk: consider taking your attitude out the door and never asking again.
[15:43] <clusterfusk> Gnea: what attitude?  I'm telling you to stop giving wrong answers.  You can leave yourself if you're going to be counterproductive.
[15:44] <Abhijit> which library to install for the package 'lua'? i searched in synpatic and it gives lots of result but which one to install?
[15:44] <Abhijit> it is needed for enlightenment
[15:44] <sungji> edbian: oh ok thank you very much for your help and time!   is it possible to do "rfkill unblock #" during boot?
[15:45] <edbian> sungji: It's just a terminal command so you could write a script and have it run at boot time.  I suspect you wont' need to though.
[15:45] <Gnea> clusterfusk: the fact that you're calling me out on it is inappropriate. I don't have to leave, I've been here for years helping people. If you can't accept the fact that I already changed and realized what it is you're talking about, then it is you that has the problem. I won't tell you again.
[15:45] <bobo123> i'm trying to make a bash script for login-ing users, but how do i check if the user exists on the system or not?
[15:45] <edbian> awkward...
[15:45] <edbian> bobo123: They will be listed in /etc/passwd
[15:46] <bobo123> edbian, yes i can get that, but how to check if the password is good or fake?
[15:46] <edbian> bobo123: You wanna replace the login program?  What are you trying to change about it?
[15:47] <wirrr> does anyone use mldonkey/can anyone recommend a good p2p client program?
[15:47] <bobo123> edbian, yes i want to replace it i'm doing a simple program for doing some calculations and i want the user to login again in order to do the calculations
[15:48] <mastertheknife> I love unity, but i have a question.. for example the home button in the unity toolbar, how can i open it more than once?
[15:48] <bobo123> edbian, is there a function how to check if a user/password combination is ok or not?
[15:48] <iceroot> wirrr: transmission (torrent)
[15:48] <mastertheknife> Also, in unity, if i drag the terminal to the unity toolbar, its missing its icon
[15:48] <edbian> bobo123: I'm not sure.  I've never done that.  I think you hash what they type (somehow) and then compare it to what's in /etc/shadow
[15:48] <edbian> bobo123: I am not aware of some library but maybe there is
[15:48] <beli> bobo123: login shell is defined in /etc/passwd
[15:48] <sungji> edbian: just rebooted, and I had to manually enable it again. So, everything in init.d is triggered on boot time, right?
[15:49] <edbian> sungji: yes.  use update-rc.d /path/to/file.sh default
[15:49] <VSpike> Home come when I start a ghome-terminal, the bash it runs is not a login shell, does not have a login shell as a parent, yet it seems to have stuff set that can only come from /etc/profile and /etc/bash.bashrc ?
[15:49] <wirrr> iceroot: i do not want just torrents. i want gnutella2 and everything that like limewire uses
[15:49] <edbian> sungji: In the file put #!/bin/bash  and on the second line rfkill whatever
[15:50] <edbian> sungji: Does that make sense? Have you ever made a bash script before?  Maybe I'm going to fast.
[15:50] <Abhijit> which library to install for the package 'lua'? i searched in synpatic and it gives lots of result but which one to install?
[15:50] <Abhijit> ??
[15:50] <sungji> edbian: uhm.. kinda :) but it  makes sense yes
[15:51] <edbian> sungji: first let's make the script and run it.  Then we'll worry about making it run at boot time.
[15:51] <VSpike> sungji: simple stuff oyu can put in /etc/rc.local
[15:51] <oCean> Abhijit: ? lua is in the repositories and should pull all necessary dependencies
[15:51] <VSpike> sungji: just sudo nano /etc/rc.local and add it at the end
[15:51] <edbian> VSpike: sungji true, but this is good practice ;)
[15:51] <Abhijit> oCean, i dont have lua installed. so i want to install it. for this i searched it in synaptic by typing lua. but it gives so many result. so which one i shoud install?
[15:52] <oCean> Abhijit: I think you are referring to the package lua5.1
[15:52] <oCean> !info lua5.1
[15:53] <Abhijit> oCean, i need it for enlightenment
[15:53] <Abhijit> oCean, lua5.1 is installed already
[15:53] <wirrr> can anyone recommend a p2p client for gnutella2 networks and all the other kinds that like shareaza connects to, or send me an informative link
[15:54] <clusterfusk> I'll rephrase my question to make sure only those who know what's going on will answer.  Does Ubuntu's Nautilus-integrated cd burner "finalize" so the disc can't be written to again, or just "fix" the disc so it can be written to again as multi-session?
[15:55] <sanesto> hello, is there a way to show messages like tail -f /var/log/messages with highlighting a specific words? i know i could pipe it to grep, but grep will show me only the lines contains words, and what i want is to have all the logs but highlighting specific words
[15:55] <sanesto> thanks
[15:56] <sergiosanche> umm...
[15:56] <pythonirc101> what is the gui for network management in ubuntu?\
[15:56] <lostern> How do I use the install cd as a recovery cd?
[15:56] <oCean> Abhijit: you're installing from source? enlightment?
[15:56] <Abhijit> oCean, yes
[15:56] <sergiosanche> sanesto, try tail -f /var/log/messages | egrep --color=auto [whatever]
[15:56] <Wolfsherz> hi, can someone please help me with my graphic issues? catalyst control center reports, that i have an ati mobility radeon hd 4200 installed at my laptop. but there is a mobility radeon hd 5650 installed. it also reports i have got 320 mb of video ram, but installed is 1gb dedicated... graphic performance is overall slow and windows stutter when dragging them. if no one knows an answer, maybe someone knows where to ask?
[15:57] <sungji> edbian: it says: warning: /etc/init.d/wifiscript.sh missing LSB information
[15:58] <usr13> Wolfsherz: Well, sounds like wrong video driver is loading.
[15:58] <oCean> Abhijit: I don't know what it is looking for. The enlightment people should know I think. Last suggestion try liblua5.1-0-dev
[15:59] <Wolfsherz> usr13: i istalled the proprietary driver ubuntu recommends
[15:59] <Abhijit> oCean, okay i am asking in enlightemnet channel but its dead
[15:59] <magnetron> hi! my HDD gets very hot, where can i read about configuring hdd spindown in an ubuntu-aware way?
[15:59] <magnetron> (for a laptop)
[15:59] <oCean> Abhijit: ah ok.
[16:00] <Patrunjel> hi guys, I had Ubuntu installed on my PC, and now I installed Windows XP (they are on different partitions), but now it just boots XP, i mean, GRUB does not appear so I can choose where to boot from. Can someone please help me out with this? :D
[16:00] <ZykoticK9> !grub | Patrunjel
[16:00] <nibbler_> !grub | Patrunjel
[16:02] <Patrunjel> ZykoticK9, nibbler_  It's not from GRUB, it's because of the (lame) Windows boot loader, but I don't really know where to ask. I have encountered this problem before, but I don't remember what were the commands to solve it (I'm not a Windows user, it's for mom :D)
[16:03] <ZykoticK9> Patrunjel, did you read the link?  "Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub"
[16:03] <magnetron> Patrunjel: the factoid you got has a link for reinstalling grub after windows broke it
[16:04] <Patrunjel> ZykoticK9, magnetron Sorry guys, my bad :D (thanks for the help)
[16:04] <RA_drc> hi, i'm running natty narwhal, and when i try and drop the text editor into the launch bar, it doesn't stay in there.  why is this?
[16:04] <Wisien> hi what are available file managers for ubuntu ?
[16:06] <ZykoticK9> Wisien, besides Nautilus there is also Thunar, PCManFM, GNOME Commander, ROX-Filer
[16:06] <Abhijit> Wisien, search in the ubuntu software center by word file manager
[16:07] <vivekrp> Guys anyone know what is phpMyAdmin's default username in xampp (lampp) ??
[16:07] <Wisien> thanks, i need intuitive file manager like in windows or similar to total commander
[16:08] <geshp> vivekrp:pma
[16:08] <usr13> Wisien: What is intuitive about MS Windows' file manager?
[16:09] <vivekrp> geshp: Tried it. But getting "Cannot log in to the MySQL server". Whats default password?
[16:09] <usr13> Wisien: What is intuitive about explore?
[16:09] <Wisien> usage, its user friendly
[16:09] <geshp> vivekrp:i dont think it sets a pass by default
[16:09] <ZykoticK9> Wisien, "unix is user friendly as well, it's just picky about who it's friends are" ;)
[16:10] <killoww> hi everyone, is there anyone that wouldn't mind wasting a few seconds of their life (lol) helping me out choose a netbook? (i dont think this could be on topic here if so please just tell me i dont want to bother anyone) i'm looking at a few brands but now i'm really concerned about build and compatibility with linux, looks like the hardware is mainly the same but im really having some paranoia right now lol
[16:10] <vivekrp> geshp: Yes. I set it using /opt/lampp/lampp security and gave and password. Now when tried to login using pma and password its not working
[16:10] <Wisien> unix can be hard to learn it has lots of commands and manuals
[16:10] <afroman> hello. how do I enter the system using usb device with Ubuntu and a terminal?
[16:10] <usr13> Wisien: Since MS Windows relies so heavily on file extensions and explore hides those extensions, I find it somewhat less than intuitive.
[16:10] <edbian> usr13: That is extremely annoying
[16:11] <edbian> Wisien: But the file manager is GUI.  There are no commands
[16:11] <usr13> edbian: I'm sorry.  I'll try to control my comments :(
[16:11] <saml> is there full desktop zoom without compiz?
[16:11] <Wisien> yes
[16:11] <edbian> usr13: No no.  I agree with you.  Windows relying on file extensions is extremely annoying
[16:11] <saml> Wisien, what is it?  i don't like compiz
[16:11] <mgj> Wireless touble: Using a Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG, when i try to do 'sudo iwlist wlan0 scan' i get: Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down
[16:12] <afroman> what do I do with grub-rescue_
[16:12] <yunosh> hi, how can i find out with apt/aptitude from which source a suggested package update is coming from?
[16:12] <afroman> ?
[16:12] <saml> i want to use different window manager.. but i like full desktop zoom
[16:12] <oCean> yunosh: apt-cache policy packagename
[16:12] <usr13> Wisien: What is wrong with the default file manager you are seeing now?
[16:12] <edbian> mgj: sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[16:12] <yunosh> oCean: thanks
[16:12] <edbian> usr13: You're not annoying me at all :)
[16:12] <mgj> edbian, SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory
[16:12] <usr13> edbian: I know, was just kidding .....
[16:12] <xcc112> Hi all!
[16:13] <afroman> anybody_
[16:13] <geshp> vivekrp:why not just reset the pass in mysql query?
[16:13] <Wisien> nothing wrong , i look at the windows gui and ubuntu ...
[16:13] <afroman> ?
[16:13] <edbian> mgj: You need to get a driver for your card. What card / chipset do you have?
[16:13] <vivekrp> geshp: Code?
[16:13] <mgj> edbian, from what i can find on google, it *should* be supported. Its a Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG
[16:13] <usr13> Wisien: Once you learn a little more about Linux, you will realize it's not difficult, just different.
[16:14] <vivekrp> geshp: I mean command?
[16:14] <mgj> edbian, if it did not have a driver, i shouldn't see it when i do 'iwconfig'.... correct?
[16:14] <edbian> mgj: agreeed.  What driver is listed for it in sudo lspci -k   ?
[16:14] <ZykoticK9> vivekrp, xampp shouldn't really be supported in this channel, as Ubuntu provides the same packages - but you've chosen to use a 3rd party instead
[16:14] <Wisien> yes, it has other philosophy than win
[16:14] <fddgdfgfdg> hello
[16:14] <edbian> mgj: Is it showing up in iwconfig?
[16:14] <mgj> yea
[16:14] <fddgdfgfdg> i have a problem with indicator clock, it doesn't show the date of the zone I choose (in the list), can anyone help me?
[16:14] <edbian> mgj: What name does it have in iwconfig
[16:14] <mgj> edbian, http://pastebin.com/p2hs0HhC
[16:15] <geshp> vivekrp: shutdown mysql: /etc/init.d/mysql stop
[16:15] <edbian> mgj: sudo ifconfig wlan0 up says what?
[16:15] <geshp> vivekrp: start it with grant: mysqld_safe --skip-grant-tables &
[16:15] <mgj> edbian, SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory
[16:15] <vivekrp> ZykoticK9: I have installed  it on ubuntu 11.04. And i know its not xampp channel. so posted on #apachefriends but no one replyed there so askign here.
[16:15] <geshp> vivekrp: go to sql shell: mysql -u root
[16:15] <afroman> anybody home?
[16:16] <edbian> mgj: What driver is being listed in sudo lspci -k   ??
[16:16] <usr13> mgj: Do you know the essid?
[16:16] <RA_drc> hi, i'm running natty narwhal, and when i try and drop the text editor into the launch bar, it doesn't stay in there.  what is wrong?
[16:16] <geshp> vivekrp: update user set password=password('whateveryouwant') where User='pma';   (pma or root or whatever)
[16:16] <geshp> vivekrp: followed by: flush privileges; and quit
[16:16] <mgj> edbian, disclaimer: Helping a friend. I *think* he messed around with /etc/network/interfaces to fix it. I changed it back to only contain the loopback "lo" device.
[16:17] <mgj> edbian, i dont.... actually see the driver
[16:17] <afroman> how do I enter my system using a live cd?
[16:17] <sooth> How do I feed a list of packages to aptitude and then resolve the dependencies interactively?
[16:17] <edbian> mgj: Does it contain only the lo device?
[16:17] <geshp> vivekrp: then /etc/init.d/mysql stop followed by /etc/init.d/mysql start
[16:17] <edbian> mgj: can you pastebin sudo lspci -k ?
[16:17] <mgj> edbian, yes
[16:17] <mgj> sec
[16:17] <geshp> vivekrp: whew that should be it to do a mysql reset
[16:17] <Wisien> anyone knows how ubuntu display and gui works?
[16:17] <vivekrp> geshp: When i command : /opt/lampp/bin/mysql . Its giving an error : " Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)"
[16:17] <usr13> mgj: sudo lspci -k | pastebinit
[16:17] <ZykoticK9> afroman, you could see the chroot directions in the !grub2 link
[16:17] <Wisien> is it xree86 or x11
[16:17] <edbian> mgj: Then /etc/network/interfaces is correct.  (it's a good sign it shows up in iwconfig)  I suspect the firmware is missing but first I wanna see the ipw2200 driver there
[16:18] <usr13> Wisien: xorg
[16:18] <geshp> vivekrp: you have to restart mysql with the --skip-grant-tables option
[16:18] <ZykoticK9> Wisien, Xfree86 was replaced on most (probably all) distros by Xorg quite some time ago
[16:18] <jtreminio> Morning all. I'm on 11.04, running Chrome. I know there's an update in the future for this, but does anyone know of anyway to watch Netflix streams right now? Does Moonlight work?
[16:18] <edbian> Wisien: It's elaborate.  I know how it works at various level.  None of which are complete :P
[16:18] <afroman> ZykoticK9: what is the !grub2 link?
[16:18] <edbian> jtreminio: You cannot watch netflix on linux :(
[16:18] <ZykoticK9> !grub2 > afroman
[16:18] <jtreminio> edbian:  noooooooooooooo
[16:19] <Wisien> i need to chceck what graphics chipset i have
[16:19] <mgj> edbian, i dont see the ipw2200 driver. Pastein: http://pastebin.com/q0XH3zKK
[16:19] <edbian> jtreminio: do not want!
[16:19] <Wisien> how to do it
[16:19] <jhfdj> hi
[16:19] <edbian> mgj: reading...
[16:19] <ZykoticK9> Wisien, "lspci | grep -i vga"
[16:19] <usr13> Wisien: lspci
[16:19] <Wisien> thx
[16:19] <jhfdj> never used ubuntu bfore just installed latest releasse and have a simple question
[16:20] <edbian> mgj: The only wifi card I see is a broadcom BCM4309  on the last line.  There is no intel 2200
[16:20] <edbian> mgj: You've got some 'splaning to do!
[16:20] <jhfdj> is there a program list like in windows. i have libre draw (or something like that) but it isnt in the left hand widget displaying programs etc
[16:20] <jhfdj> and i cant find how to access it
[16:21] <mgj> edbian, you are correct. Think i have been fooled by either the dell website (which claims broadcom is only used in the asia market) or my friend :P. Im sorry
[16:21] <jtreminio> jhfdj:  hit your Windows key and type "libre"
[16:21] <mgj> ugh.... broadcom wifi trouble
[16:21] <jhfdj> ok thanks
[16:21] <mgj> have tried fixing broadcom before, such a pain
[16:21] <sw0rdfish> hey guys where are background images kept again?
[16:21] <mgj> edbian, none the less, there is a driver, why cant i scan?
[16:21] <jhfdj> is there a simple way of seeing and accessing the installed program list on the desktop without having to type in the name of the program
[16:21] <mgj> shouldnt i be able to?
[16:21] <edbian> mgj: no worries.  I am more confident with this chipset!
[16:22] <mgj> really? awesome
[16:22] <ZykoticK9> sw0rdfish, /usr/share/pixmaps maybe?
[16:22] <geshp> broadcom is *not* just used in asia damn thats so wrong
[16:22] <usr13> jhfdj: No
[16:22] <edbian> mgj: do you have a /lib/firmware/b43 folder ?
[16:22] <jhfdj> that could be an improvement suggestion then n'est pas
[16:22] <mgj> geshp, i know, only speaking about this specific laptop
[16:22] <jhfdj> for ease of use etc time etc
[16:22] <geshp> mgj: is that a mini by any chance?
[16:22] <jhfdj> surely
[16:22] <mgj> edbian, i dont. I do have a "brcm" folder tho
[16:23] <usr13> jhfdj: Do you realize that if you had close to a thousand icons on the Desktop it would be impossible to find anything?
[16:23] <mgj> geshp, i dont know. Not my laptop, helping a friend remotely
[16:23] <geshp> ahh gotcha
[16:23] <sw0rdfish> ZykoticK9, nice one
[16:23] <edbian> mgj: sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer    This will install the firmware needed by the driver to use your card.
[16:23] <jhfdj> or at least be able to open it from the installed software list
[16:24] <jhfdj> or find the path to where it is from there in right click menu. eg do u want to open this
[16:24] <usr13> jhfdj: They are all accessable via the start menu.
[16:24] <jhfdj> how
[16:24] <mgj> edbian, nice! Guess that means i dont have to deal with the pains of ndiswrapper?
[16:24] <ZykoticK9> usr13, "start menu" eh?  ;)
[16:24] <edbian> mgj: I don't think so
[16:24] <usr13> ZykoticK9: Ok, well what should I call it?
[16:24] <jhfdj> the widget aint big enough to show all programs in just has libre write and the presentation one
[16:24] <ZykoticK9> usr13, ?
[16:25] <mgj> edbian, scanning seems to work, awesome! Thanks a lot
[16:25] <usr13> ZykoticK9: But it IS a start menu.  Right?
[16:25] <edbian> mgj: You can get on a network?
[16:26] <edbian> I'm better than the documenation!  linux wireless lists this card but not what driver covers it.  And under the b43 driver it does not list this card.  ubuntu packages don't mention bcm4309 at all
[16:26] <mgj> edbian, will try, but i assume so. At least, it is able to find multiple networks
[16:26] <jhfdj> i mean an easy access to software list or something is just an obvious necessity surely. unless linux users are so clever they dont need it
[16:26] <edbian> I just got it to work
[16:26] <ZykoticK9> usr13, "start menu" is a windows term, so you can call it that if you like (everyone will know what you are talking about)
[16:26] <magnetron> Hi, i have a laptop that gets very hot. what is the recommended way to set up power save for hard drives?
[16:26] <edbian> mgj: Finding networking basically means the card is working
[16:26] <jhfdj> it is a visual interface not dos
[16:26] <mgj> thats a good start in my book =)
[16:26] <edbian> mgj: sure
[16:26] <dr_willis> ive heard the next release of windows is also trying to move away from the start-button mentality
[16:26] <balachmar> Hi, GDM doesn't start anymore and I have errors about loading the nvidia driver. But sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-current did not help
[16:26] <sungji> hmmm WHAT did they do with the gnome samegame ?
[16:27] <ZykoticK9> usr13, i was just joking around with you, thus the ;) at the end.  But i really don't have an alternate suggestion...
[16:27] <jhfdj> i mean thats a big flaw really innit
[16:27] <jhfdj> its bleadin obvious one
[16:27] <jhfdj> wood for the trees...
[16:27] <jhfdj> see...
[16:27] <jhfdj> hmm starting to wonder about you lot
[16:28] <balachmar> Just for your information fail-safe x works
[16:28] <adurodea> jhfdj: far as i can tell you're complaining about no list of software?
[16:28] <jhfdj> yes
[16:28] <blz> magnetron, I'm not sure that harddrives generate all that much heat.  Is this really the best way of handling the problem?
[16:28] <edbian> dr_willis: I read that.  All tiles just like windows phone 7
[16:28] <dr_willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/06/use-classic-menu-in-unity-classicmenu.html
[16:28] <adurodea> jhfdj: theres plenty of ways to list software...installed running or available to be installed
[16:28] <dr_willis> theres getting to be a lot of neat Unity Indicator-applets and lens out it seems. :)
[16:28] <ZykoticK9> jhfdj, FYI Gnome2/classic has a list of installed programs - you're talking about a Unity shortcoming
[16:28] <magnetron> blz: it's old and i just want to save some power. what would you recommend? turning off the computer?
[16:28] <jhfdj> yes unity
[16:29] <jhfdj> got it from a linux mag
[16:29] <jhfdj> fed up of worms
[16:29] <jtreminio> Is there a way to override the Hidden Files filter for Nautilus? I still want to hide all hidden files/folders, EXCEPT for any ".htaccess" files - I want those to always be visible
[16:29] <jhfdj> in windows
[16:29] <jhfdj> last one was a rootkit called avg10
[16:29] <dr_willis> I was able to run the normal gnome-panel on unity also. :) looked a litle weird.. but it worked..
[16:29] <dr_willis> jtreminio,  not that i have ever seen
[16:29] <blz> magnetron:  well that would certainly work =).  Otherwise open it up and clear the heatsink of dust.  That can make a HUGE difference.
[16:30] <Wisien> anyone used commercial unixes here?
[16:30] <jhfdj> unless you really know about computers you might as well just reinstall everything after infected.
[16:30] <oCean> Wisien: please stay on topic
[16:30] <blz> magnetron, otherwise, I'd throttle CPU power, dim the backlight, and run powertop
[16:30] <Wisien> ok
[16:30] <ZykoticK9> jtreminio, i don't think you can selectively hide things - they're either hidden, or not --- FYI ctrl+h will show hidden in nautilus
[16:30] <jtreminio> ZykoticK9:  yeah I've been doing that ... was hoping though! Thanks anyway
[16:30] <blz> magnetron, and there's an option to spin down hard disks in the power management app installed by default
[16:31] <jhfdj> is there an alternative to linux. you have windows linux and there must be something else lurking out there no one talks about...
[16:31] <oCean> jhfdj: this channel is about ubuntu support.
[16:31] <magnetron> blz: the cpu power is already throttled. the heat is coming directly from the place where the hdd is so i'm pretty sure that's the problem, it's constantly spinning. i use the command-line version of ubuntu.
[16:31] <seidos> jhfdj: maybe you should ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:31] <ZykoticK9> jhfdj, *BSDs are another free OS out there
[16:32] <jhfdj> ok well off to waste time finding libre paint put that in suggestion box for unity pls clever people thanks
[16:32] <dr_willis> jhfdj,  check the disrtowatch web site.
[16:32] <mgj> edbian, it works =) Thanks again
[16:32] <edbian> mgj: awesome.  Glad I could help!
[16:33] <xcc112> On ubuntu 11.04 ,how to fix mon0 is fixed on channal -1 in airodump-ng, broadcom wireless card, b43 driver
[16:33] <giulio> ciao ragazzi mi potete suggerire come posso installare i driver di un scanner lide 110? sono novello su ubuntu e mi sto cimentando da qualche giorno . grazie per la collaborazione.
[16:33] <blz> magnetron:  Hmm.  Concerning the heat, it's possible (and somewhat likely) that because hard drives tend to conduct heat, it feels hotter after some time.  I'd still check out the heatsink.  As far as disk power management goes, I forget how it's done
[16:33] <oCean> !it | giulio
[16:33] <blz> magnetron:  but give powertop a whirl too.  it's in the default repositories
[16:34] <magnetron> blz: yeah, but i'm on the commandline system so i doubt the problem is too much software
[16:35] <xcc112> anybody know how to fix airodump-ng problem with fixed channal (mon0 on -1) with b43 driver
[16:38] <xcc112> anybody have compaq 6715b with ubuntu and b43 driver?
[16:38] <fa_effekt> need to set up wireless connection from cell phone to desktop via wifi adapter
[16:38] <fa_effekt> the adapter works
[16:38] <edbian> xcc112: I don't have that machine but I can help.
[16:38] <parapan> hello fellows > I have some troubles mounting partitions when using nx remote on Ubuntu system .....can anyone help pls ???
[16:38] <fa_effekt> however don't know how to set it up
[16:39] <Tasma> morning
[16:39] <Stereocaulon> I have a hardware RAID1 system and Ubuntu 11.04 (64bits) complains from time to time that it has encountered serious errors mounting my /home directory. Is a simple fsck safe on a RAID1 array, or do I need to take special precautions?
[16:39] <oCean> parapan: best is just to describe your issue (detailed, in single line)
[16:39] <edbian> xcc112: you there?
[16:40] <xcc112> yes
[16:40] <edbian> xcc112: What card / chipset do you have?
[16:40] <sipior> Stereocaulon: fsck operates at the level of the filesystem, and so is more or less orthogonal to raid/lvm status.
[16:40] <xcc112> broadcom wireless card
[16:40] <edbian> xcc112: I need the number, bcm43XY  what are x and y?  You can find out by running sudo lspci -k
[16:41] <xcc112> ok sec
[16:41] <edbian> xcc112: It' big!
[16:41] <Sub_Zero> How can I remove some of the entries in the right click menu?
[16:42] <Stereocaulon> sipior, thank you! I'll go ahead next time (after making a backup)
[16:43] <sipior> Stereocaulon: sure thing. backups are always a good idea :-)
[16:44] <parapan> oCean: when I'm in front of  my PC, I am mounting a linux partition using Places>Partition Name (the partition is not mounted on the fstab); when I remotely access the PC using NX, I go to Places>Partition name and I receive message  "Unable to Mount partition > Not authorized ...but I'm logging with the admin user .......funny thing is : some time is working ...most of the time is not working ....
[16:44] <Jamshoot> hello
[16:44] <fa_effekt> anyone knowledgeable on how to get wifi adapter set up?
[16:44] <Rickta59> I'm having copying and pasting data from a java applet in Firefox ( and Chrome ).  It doesn't work.  Is there some setting I can change to allow cut and paste on for java applets?  The site I'm trying to use is the circuit simulator at http://www.falstad.com/circuit/ It has a feature that allows you to export the link.  It shows a dialog box with a text widget.  If you right click on the exported text there is no copy or cut.  I tr
[16:45] <Sidewinder1> Jamshoot, Good mornin'.
[16:45] <xcc112> edibian i am on another computer i cant use my now , i will come later and try to find you
[16:45] <edbian> xcc112: cya
[16:46] <Jamshoot> i got read DMA Ext error, while i try to boot Ubuntu. I finded bad partition and deleted it from fstab. But it doesnt helps... What should i do?
[16:47] <oCean> parapan: weird, I didn't think it would make a difference, locally or remote (nx)
[16:47] <Jamshoot> any guess?
[16:47] <fyksen> Does anybody know what the shortcut to switch tab in empathy is?
[16:47] <sipior> Jamshoot: dying drive, i would imagine
[16:48] <sipior> Jamshoot: possibly just a bad connection.
[16:48] <oCean> parapan: I would suggest a logfile, if I could come up with one of some relevance.. /var/log/auth.log maybe?
[16:48] <parapan> oCean: normally, it sholdn't be a problem ...maybe because of a slow remote connection ??? even if it happend to me when using a good internet connection also .....
[16:48] <sipior> Jamshoot: consider running smartmontools on the drive and see what comes up.
[16:48] <Jamshoot> sipior, this is bad... However, i can mount it from live usb (cd)...
[16:49] <sipior> Jamshoot: then make sure you have a reliable copy of the data therein
[16:49] <Stereocaulon> sipior, thanks again. going to backup now.
[16:49] <oCean> parapan: have you tested other actions?
[16:49] <Stereocaulon> \leave #ubuntu
[16:50] <tsaknorris> my friend has sony vaio with AR9285 atheros card and his connection quality is 40/70 (not even 40/100) is there other drivers that that ath9k what i could test?
[16:50] <Jamshoot> sipior, i tried smart tools, test throws this ->
[16:50] <Jamshoot> # 3  Short offline       Completed: read failure       90%      8321         1221720081
[16:50] <tsaknorris> speed is in bits not in bytes :D
[16:50] <Jamshoot> and already checked connectors
[16:51] <sipior> Jamshoot: time for a replacement drive.
[16:51] <sipior> Jamshoot: at least plug in a spare to verify that it's not a problem with the controller &cet.
[16:52] <afroman> ZykoticK9: hello again... thx for the help
[16:52] <Jamshoot> sipior, =\ he is too young to die =)
[16:52] <tsaknorris> there is also windows (dual boot) so with windows its very good wlan connection
[16:52] <sipior> Jamshoot: if only the world worked that way...
[16:52] <Rickta59> so no one has suggests on how to solve copy/paste problems with java applets on ubuntu ?
[16:52] <sooth> How do I manually start the window manager from the console?
[16:52] <afroman> ZykoticK9: just a quick question, how do I find out if UUID of a partition?
[16:52] <tsaknorris> i dont want to use ndiswrapper :P
[16:52] <sooth> afroman: blkid
[16:53] <OneiricOne> sooth, startx
[16:53] <sooth> OneiricOne: I want to start it on another tty
[16:53] <sooth> or display
[16:53] <OneiricOne> sooth, sorry I don't know how to do that.
[16:54] <Jamshoot> sipior, ok ill try it... But what happend with boot? Why the error appears there and dont appears while i mount hd it livecd ubuntu?
[16:54] <Jamshoot> *in
[16:54] <tsaknorris> hmm
[16:54] <sipior> Jamshoot: i don't know.
[16:54] <oCean> sooth: I think it is startx -- :2  to start x on tty2
[16:54] <Jamshoot> ok
[16:55] <afroman> thx sooth
[16:56] <Jamshoot> 2nd question, is there scandisk-like prog. for ntfs in linux?
[16:57] <Jamshoot> fsck doesnt like ntfs...
[16:58] <jay_> Question: is there a good software for desktop recording in ubuntu ? can u recommend me one ?
[16:58] <rypervenche> jay_: gtk-recordmydesktop or ffmpeg
[16:58] <mgj> jay_, the ones i have tried, sucks. recordmydesktop is easy, but i think ffmpeg is more reliable
[16:59] <rypervenche> jay_: I wrote a script for ffmpeg to do it.
[16:59] <koshie> Hi.
[17:00] <Sintient> Need help with Ubuntu install using Wubi on a Win7 system (ASUS Eee PC 1015PED-PU17)
[17:03] <Abhijit> !details | sinistrad
[17:03] <Abhijit> aaah
[17:03] <Abhijit> Sintient, ^^^^^
[17:03] <roasted> Question - I've heard that Gnome Shell breaks Unity. Is this because the current Unity is Gnome 2.X based and GS is Gnome 3 based? When 11.10 comes out, will Unity and Gnome Shell be able to live together on the same system or will the same issue still exist?
[17:03] <FLeiXiuS> I
[17:04] <fa_effekt> anyone knowledgeable on how to get wifi adapter set up?
[17:04] <FLeiXiuS> I'm trying to create my own debian repo; however, every time I go to apt-get install, the package is unavailable.  Apt-get update shows my repo being 'Ignored'
[17:04] <Abhijit> !wifi | fa_effekt
[17:04] <magnetron> fa_effekt: have you been experiencing any problems with it?
[17:05] <fa_effekt> magnetron, this is a new setup
[17:05] <fa_effekt> the adapter is recognized but don't know how to get the cell phone to connect
[17:05] <magnetron> fa_effekt: what happens when you plug it in and click the network icon
[17:06] <fa_effekt> it shows a wlan connection
[17:07] <Sintient> Install process seemed fine, rebooted, presented with boot options, selected Ubuntu, OS began loading, hung on slide-show. I left it on all night and it still did not fully load
[17:07] <CainFoool> Guys
[17:07] <CainFoool> I need a bit of help.
[17:07] <Thraspic> I'm trying to change the Chromium program icon.  Not jsut the icon on the main menu, which I've done, but the icon which appears in my task tray and in my window manager.  I've done this with other programs by changing the icons in /usr/share/icons/hicolor/(various resolutions)/apps, but for Chromium and Chromium alone this isnt working.
[17:07] <CainFoool> Anybody here?
[17:08] <magnetron> fa_effekt: can you access the internet?
[17:08] <CainFoool> sudo: can't open /etc/sudoers.d/README: Permission denied
[17:08] <CainFoool> That error message shows once I try sudo for anything.
[17:08] <CainFoool> even just typing sudo.
[17:08] <fa_effekt> magnetron, to be specific - in gnome under system > preferences > network configuration
[17:09] <CainFoool> ..
[17:09] <magnetron> fa_effekt: yes. what SPECIFICALLY isn't working
[17:09] <magnetron> ???
[17:09] <fa_effekt> it says that under wireless connection tab there is a wireless connection 1
[17:09] <magnetron> fa_effekt: that's good, it's supposed to
[17:09] <fa_effekt> magnetron, after that not for certain about what should be done
[17:10] <sipior> CainFoool: well, what are the permissions of that directory, and /etc/sudoers?
[17:10] <CainFoool> How do I check sipior?
[17:10] <sipior> CainFoool: "ls -l"
[17:10] <sipior> CainFoool: ls -l /etc/sudoers
[17:10] <magnetron> fa_effekt: sure, but you haven't told me what the problem is yet
[17:10] <CainFoool> dr--r-----  2 root    root     4096 2010-04-29 13:18 sudoers.d
[17:11] <CainFoool> It is not the sudoers file that is the problem, it's the sudoers.d folder that is.
[17:11] <fa_effekt> magnetron, just trying to get a connection between cell phone wifi and desktop
[17:12] <magnetron> fa_effekt: can't they both connect to the router?
[17:12] <fa_effekt> the router is lan
[17:12] <dr_willis> teathering. :)  always a handy thing.
[17:12] <killoww> hi everyone, is there anyone that wouldn't mind wasting a few seconds of their life (lol) helping me out choose a netbook? (i dont think this could be on topic here if so please just tell me i dont want to bother anyone) i'm looking at a few brands but now i'm really concerned about build and compatibility with linux, looks like the hardware is mainly the same but im really having some paranoia right now lol	
[17:12] <roasted> Anybody see this? Seems to be more user friendly to recover grub - http://www.webupd8.org/2011/06/boot-repair-fix-ubuntu-boot-issues.html#more
[17:12] <fa_effekt> magnetron, the router is ethernet
[17:12] <CainFoool> sipior: I get dr--r-----  2 root    root     4096 2010-04-29 13:18 sudoers.d
[17:12] <dr_willis> killoww,  eee has some new netbooks with ubuntu preinstalled..
[17:12] <sipior> CainFoool: you don't have /etc/sudoers?
[17:12] <magnetron> !ics | fa_effekt
[17:13] <CainFoool> sipior: I do have /etc/sudoers ; but that file is not the problem.
[17:13] <killoww> dr_willis: sadly asus is very  bad here with support and prices, i was considering dell, hp, toshiba  you have any experience? I mainly focus on build quality since support can be good where you live but crappy here
[17:13] <dr_willis> killoww,  im not even sure what you would mean by 'support' :) ive rarely needed the pc makers for any reason
[17:13] <CainFoool> sipior: For sudoers, I get -r--r-----  1 root    root      609 2011-06-10 02:08 sudoers
[17:14] <dr_willis> killoww,  check the reviews i guess.
[17:14] <CainFoool> sipior: But for sudoers.d ; I get dr--r-----  2 root    root     4096 2010-04-29 13:18 sudoers.d
[17:14] <killoww> dr_willis: well when it breaks i cant actually replace the mobo on my own (i would never find someone that would sell me one lol)
[17:14] <sipior> CainFoool: yes, i saw.
[17:14] <mgj> killoww, if all you care about is build quality, i think good ol' IBM Thinkpad is hard to beat
[17:14] <dr_willis> killoww,  its a netbook.. its basically a throw away computer..
[17:14] <CainFoool> sipior: So how do I fix this fail?
[17:15] <sipior> CainFoool: which version of ubuntu are you running, and when did the problem begin?
[17:15] <dr_willis> cost of parts would be more then a new one in most cases..
[17:15] <CainFoool> sipior: Ubuntu 10.04 ; and it happened 2 days ago.
[17:15] <sipior> CainFoool: what did you change on the system 2 days ago?
[17:15] <killoww> mgj: sadly i cant buy them here :S
[17:15] <mgj> what, really?
[17:15] <CainFoool> sipior: Erm.. I chmod'd / by 0777 xD
[17:15] <mgj> thought they were very global
[17:15] <killoww> dr_willis: i couldnt agree more :D
[17:16] <killoww> mgj: they are but here noone sells lol
[17:16] <sipior> CainFoool: you could've saved us a great deal of time mentioning that at the beginning...
[17:16] <mgj> =(
[17:16] <haavaros> Hi! How do I make the week start on monday in 10.10?
[17:16] <CainFoool> sipior: So how do I fix it then
[17:16] <mgj> killoww, you could use that thing.... whats it called.... interwebz? to buy one :P
[17:16] <sipior> CainFoool: boot from a rescue cd (or boot into single-user mode), and fix the permissions.
[17:16] <RA_drc> hi, how can i  get gedit to stay in the quick-launch bar on natty narwhal?
[17:17] <killoww> mgj: lol, problems are that 1 my company needs to buy them directly from the manufacturer (and thats a big one) 2 that they re not sold on national territory anyways so id need an imported product
[17:17] <CainFoool> sipior: I have been doing that, I've been booting off an Ubuntu Live CD (my previous install one) and i got the README file chmod'd to 0440 this morning, but once I did it I get the PErmission Denied error.
[17:18] <CainFoool> sipior: Would fsck fix it?
[17:18] <mgj> killoww, fair enough. I honestly know nothing about how IBM goes about selling to companies
[17:18] <sipior> CainFoool: no.
[17:18] <killoww> mgj: ibm rocks, i don't know how they got our former machines lol
[17:18] <killoww> mgj: you happen to have experiences with hp dell or toshiba?
[17:19] <mgj> Im afraid i dont. Im a coder, i dont buy stuff for companies =)
[17:19] <Sintient> "I have a problem with Ubuntu not completely loading after boot, I'm running Ubuntu version 11.04 dual-booting on a Win7 Starter system. When I try to boot Ubuntu it stops at the initial desktop with a slide show of Ubuntu features, I get the following output: The pointer continues to remain a spinning wheel., but I expected it to finish loading the desktop and show a taskbar and list of programs"
[17:19] <mgj> only speaking from personal experience with thinkpads, they are generally of very high build quality
[17:19] <killoww> mgj: no i mean experiences with said brands, like you ever owned one of those machines?
[17:19] <mgj> oh, no. Only had thinkpads and shitty low-end asus's
[17:20] <killoww> mgj: ouch
[17:20] <omegaphi> hi, can someone help me uninstall the phpmyadmin from my ubuntu?
[17:21] <gumus> hi all
[17:21] <omegaphi> there are multiple folders with name phpmyadmin on my system. Please help :)
[17:21] <Pici> omegaphi: How did you install it?
[17:21] <mgj> I have a 7 year old Asus laptop, it still works. The fan is quite noisy by now, but it works. But honestly, the build quality does not even compare to that of a thinkpad. Im a bit of a fanboy in that regard.
[17:21] <llutz> omegaphi: sudo apt-get purge phpmyadmin
[17:21] <omegaphi> or can someone help me fix my phpmyadmin? it is asking for some username and password which I don't know!
[17:22] <Pici> mgj: Could you please mind your language here? also, laptop brand discussion isn't really on-topic for this channel, there is a conversation about the same thing going on in #ubuntu-offtopic though.
[17:22] <Sintient> Wubi install provided by Ubuntu.com
[17:22] <killoww> mgj: i saw one, sadly lenovo is kinda picky here and all i can find are low end ones
[17:23] <Gargamel> hello
[17:23] <mgj> Pici, sorry. Dont think my language is very offensive, but ill stop the laptop discussion
[17:23] <Kartagis> hi
[17:23] <Kartagis> how do I downgrade ssh?
[17:23] <shockrates> shockrates:
[17:23] <killoww> yeah sorry everyone for the off topic, sorry mgj too
[17:23] <shockrates> someone type my nick
[17:23] <shockrates> i am checking highlight
[17:23] <Nobgul-BNC> shockrates
[17:23] <gumus> [absolute beginner] does anyone know how to connect to FTP server without using the "Places" , "connect to server" ?
[17:24] <shockrates> k nice
[17:24] <Gargamel> i have a desktop (Dell Dimension 2400) with a belkin wireless card in it and i cannot seem to find the drivers compatable anyone know where i can find a driver that works with the broadcom 801 and ubuntu 11.04?
[17:24] <CainFoool> ftp {domain}
[17:24] <pythonirc101> anyone can help me setup a static ip on an ubuntu box? I tried to follow -- http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-networking-configuration-using-command-line.html but still get the dhcp ip that i used to get
[17:24] <dr_willis> gumus,  theres the fuse ftp tools
[17:24] <shockrates> nice
[17:25] <Gargamel> i have a desktop (Dell Dimension 2400) with a belkin wireless card in it and i cannot seem to find the drivers compatable anyone know where i can find a driver that works with the broadcom 801 and ubuntu 11.04?
[17:25] <gumus> ok, i'll take a look thx
[17:26] <Gargamel> belkin does not support the linux os and its the only wifi card i have and reallly need to get it operational so that i can get my linux system online
[17:26] <ninjageek> hola soy nuevo alguien me da una mano?
[17:26] <Nobgul-BNC> !es | ninjageek
[17:26] <omegaphi> *REPSOTING* can someone help me fix my phpmyadmin? it is asking for some username and password which I don't know!
[17:26] <omegaphi> *REPOSTING* can someone help me fix my phpmyadmin? it is asking for some username and password which I don't know!
[17:27] <Nobgul-BNC> omegaphi Wait a second and yes i can
[17:27] <Nobgul-BNC> Do you have root access to the server or computer?
[17:27] <Pici> omegaphi: The username and password it is asking for are the credentials that your mysql server would normally accept.
[17:28] <Gargamel> *REPOST*i have a desktop (Dell Dimension 2400) with a belkin wireless card in it and i cannot seem to find the drivers compatable anyone know where i can find a driver that works with the broadcom 801 and ubuntu 11.04?
[17:28] <Sintient> Is it an expected function for Ubuntu 11.04 to show a desktop background with a slide-show and nothing else except OS customization options?
[17:28] <omegaphi> Pici : My mysql is installed with default settings, user: root and no password, but it's not working :(
[17:28] <hex-code> hi omegaphi
[17:29] <Sintient> If not, what should I expect?
[17:29] <omegaphi> hex-code : hi
[17:29] <hex-code> can you help out with Glib 2.28 upgrade on ubuntu 10.10
[17:29] <Pici> omegaphi: The default for mysql is for it to prompt you for a root password upon install.
[17:29] <hex-code> synaptic doesn't show any new upgrade beyond  Glib 2.26.1, and i need some help with manual installation
[17:30] <Null000> What is a good program to check computer heat ,hard disk etc on ubuntu?
[17:30] <Gargamel> i am running ubuntu 11.04 but i want to get my wireless card working till i do i have a linux box with no internet anyone willing to help me out finding the driver for the wireless card compatable with Belkin G Wireless F5D700 V1134?
[17:30] <omegaphi> Pici : I simply pressed enter while installation, I can access thr mysql from shell using "mysql --host=localhost --protocol=TCP"
[17:31] <omegaphi> hex-code : sorry, I don't know nothing about it
[17:31] <Gargamel> F5d7000
[17:31] <Gargamel> :(
[17:31] <Nobgul-BNC> omegaphi, try this mysql --user=root mysql
[17:31] <hex-code> ok
[17:31] <Pici> omegaphi: Then you can change your password so that phpmyadmin will accept it: UPDATE mysql.user SET Password=PASSWORD('newpasswordhere'') WHERE User='root';
[17:31] <Pici> omegaphi: Then: FLUSH PRIVILEGES;
[17:32] <omegaphi> Nobgul-BNC : ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[17:32] <Nobgul-BNC> Then you have larger issues. Pici, that is where i was going with him.
[17:32] <omegaphi> Nobgul-BNC : ok
[17:32] <Pici> hex-code: Upgrading glib is likely to break your system. Why do you think you need to do this?
[17:32] <Gargamel> ok all these people that use linux and noone knows where i can find a driver that will work with my Belkin G Wireless Card?
[17:33] <omegaphi> Nobgul-BNC : what should I do now?
[17:33] <Nobgul-BNC> omegaphi, You can run the code that Pici, gave you ands reset the password by login in the way you did before.
[17:33] <Pici> !broadcom | grandrew
[17:33] <Pici> grandrew: sorry, mistab
[17:33] <hex-code> i have to install gtk+-3.0
[17:33] <Pici> Gargamel: see above ^
[17:33] <hex-code> and it depends on glib2.28.0
[17:33] <Gargamel> pici i tried that
[17:34] <Pici> hex-code: glib2.28 is available in Ubuntu 11.04, you could upgrade.
[17:34] <Gargamel> i have to have internet first and without the drivers i cannot retrieve them
[17:34] <Sintient> Sorry, I am new to this. Should I be addressing someone specifically?
[17:35] <hex-code> i was wondering if i can do it in 10.10 only
[17:35] <mgj> Sintient, if you have a question, just ask it. If someone answers, it might be appropriate to adress that person
[17:36] <Gargamel> Pici you have to be connected to retrieve the drivers, my linux box has no internet till i get those drivers
[17:37] <omegaphi> ERROR 1142 (42000): UPDATE command denied to user ''@'localhost' for table 'user'
[17:37] <Nobgul-BNC> Usb drive Gargamel?
[17:37] <omegaphi> Pici : ERROR 1142 (42000): UPDATE command denied to user ''@'localhost' for table 'user'
[17:37] <Nobgul-BNC> omegaphi, you know how to stop mysql
[17:37] <Nobgul-BNC> If so kill mysql
[17:38] <Null000> gargamel if you using linux in virtual box than use nat connection to get internet coonection in box than download driver
[17:38] <mgj> Nobgul-BNC, not sure if you should use the "service" tool these days, but otherwise you should be able to use /etc/init.d/mysqld start|stop|restart
[17:38] <Nobgul-BNC> omegaphi, and once its down start it with mysqld_safe --skip-grant-tables
[17:38] <omegaphi> Nobgul-BNC : I did pkill mysql
[17:38] <Nobgul-BNC> Ok run that command above to launch it.
[17:38] <mgj> omegaphi, is that... safe?
[17:38] <Gargamel> Null000 I HAVE NOT CONNECTION AT ALL WITH Linux
[17:39] <NCS_One_> I have this "XTerm*background: #080808" on ~/.Xresources but it doesn't change color, anyone knows why?
[17:39] <Null000> gargamel you using virtual linux?
[17:39] <Sintient> ubottu, I have a problem with Ubuntu not completely loading after boot, I'm running Ubuntu version 11.04 dual-booting on a Win7 Starter system. When I try to boot Ubuntu it stops at the initial desktop with a slide show of Ubuntu features, I get the following output: The pointer continues to remain a spinning wheel., but I expected it to finish loading the desktop and show a taskbar and list...
[17:39] <Sintient> ...of programs
[17:39] <omegaphi> Nobgul-BNC : http://codepad.org/xiHU1yr2
[17:39] <Nobgul-BNC> omegaphi, after you restart with the above command you can use the password rest command that Pici listed above
[17:39] <Gargamel> no its a full install
[17:39] <Gargamel> only OS on box
[17:40] <arunkumar413> hi, i want to convert some individual html pages into a single pdf document.
[17:40] <Nobgul-BNC> hrmm omegaphi, type ps aux | grep mysql
[17:41] <Null000> try conect with cabel to router every linux disto can achive that without any driver installed i think than search for driver
[17:41] <omegaphi> Nobgul-BNC : http://codepad.org/jgtJ99Uq
[17:41] <illDecree> i've got a set of song files. they are all named like this: "# SONG ARTIST".  how can i rename them all via terminal to remove the ARTIST part of the files?
[17:41] <Gargamel> downloaded a package gonna go try that one
[17:41] <Gargamel> talk to ya later
[17:41] <Gargamel> thanks for the info
[17:42] <Nobgul-BNC> omegaphi, try putting sudo in front of the command to launch the mysql.
[17:42] <dr_willis> illDecree,  some bash scripting, or use of 'qmv' from the renameutils package.  proberly other ways as well.
[17:42] <omegaphi> Nobgul-BNC : the command which you just gave me or the one I use to start mysql?
[17:43] <Nobgul-BNC> The one from above mysqld_safe --skip-grant-tables
[17:43] <illDecree> dr_willis: thanks!
[17:43] <Nobgul-BNC> so sudo mysqld_safe --skip-grant-tables
[17:43] <Zol> How come 'sudo echo "wm.zolomon.com" > /etc/hostname' says I lack permission? I've got root access.
[17:43] <omegaphi> Nobgul-BNC : done
[17:44] <Nobgul-BNC> Did it launch omegaphi
[17:44] <Zol> If I change the hostname, how should I change my hosts file?
[17:44] <omegaphi> Nobgul-BNC : http://codepad.org/mkSKIxSg
[17:44] <Zol> (I managed to change the hostname file, and I read that if I didn't update the hosts file sudo would stop working.)
[17:44] <omegaphi> Nobgul-BNC : I guess it launched then ended immediately
[17:45] <NCS_One_> I have this "XTerm*background: #080808" on ~/.Xresources but it doesn't change color, anyone knows why?
[17:45] <Nobgul-BNC> omegaphi, that is what it looks like. Unfournately the only way i know how to reset the pass is this method. Mabey someone else knows why it wont run. but im not sure
[17:45] <Sintient> Any suggestions of another place I should go that could more appropriately address my issues?
[17:46] <omegaphi> Pici : Can you help?
[17:47] <arunkumar413> hi, how to convert individual html pages into one single pdf document
[17:47] <ken> using doPDF to print it in windows.....
[17:48] <Nobgul-BNC> arunkumar413, you can in firefox print to pdf
[17:49] <arunkumar413> Nobgul-BNC: it's not a single html page. there are some individual html pages and i want to create a single pdf document
[17:49] <gridbag> how do you install the JavaSE  JDK1.6 download from oracle? the download is a jdk1.6.0_26.bin , and it extracts the stuff into a ./jdk1.6.0_26/ directory.  the fonts are messed up when i use it, though.
[17:50] <calzifer> hi, i need help installing mysql, because it always fails http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/6616/screenshot1706.jpg
[17:50] <iSpoof> hi guyz, anyone knows how to mount remote locations via FTP so they appear mounted at ~/.gvfs ? I am using nautilus-connect-server and can access it through nautilus but not from terminal
[17:51] <dasupergamer> hi guys
[17:52] <Sintient> Sorry, I am not sure how this game is played. Who can I ask for help?
[17:52] <dasupergamer> erm can i get ask a few questions on hardware support please... mainly stuff like TVTuners.......PCI interface cards and such
[17:52] <dasupergamer> just ask in this chat
[17:52]  * Mr_Brooks is wondering if anyone is here..
[17:52] <Pici> dasupergamer: ##hardware would be a more appropriate place for that.
[17:53] <dasupergamer> Pici: still
[17:53] <Sintient> dasupergamer, can you help me?
[17:53] <dasupergamer> sintient, sure
[17:54] <dasupergamer> what do you need help with
[17:54] <Sintient> I have a problem with Ubuntu not completely loading after boot, I'm running Ubuntu version 11.04 dual-booting on a Win7 Starter system. When I try to boot Ubuntu it stops at the initial desktop with a slide show of Ubuntu features, I get the following output: The pointer continues to remain a spinning wheel., but I expected it to finish loading the desktop and show a taskbar and list of programs
[17:55] <dasupergamer> ok as you are using WUBI you can uninstall it via control panel.... also windows 7 started only come on netbooks with 32bit processors not 64biot... there is a command line to install ubuntu via wubi but the 32bit version
[17:57] <amit2011> any1 knows irc channel of doc team.. I wanna join doc team
[17:57] <Sidewinder1> dasupergamer, wubi should be used only to "try ubnutu", it is not meant to be a method for continued usage...If you like ubuntu, install it as dual boot and go from there.
[17:57] <Sintient> I thought I did install it
[17:57] <riktking> whats the package name of the remote desktop viewer?
[17:58] <dasupergamer> wubi allows booting for a vhd.... or virtual ahrd disk in another sense
[17:58] <dasupergamer> you can get full ubuntu usage out of it... i only use it to test wine compatability
[17:59] <Sintient> I used the install here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/windows-installer
[17:59] <Sintient> I rebooted and selected Ubuntu from the boot menu
[17:59] <dasupergamer> wubi is good for ppl who just want to use ubuntu for dvds, web browsing and things like that
[18:00] <dasupergamer> but you get full ubuntu usage out of it
[18:00] <dasupergamer> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide
[18:00] <Sidewinder1> dasupergamer, Wubi and wine are two aspects that "i" avoid like the plague; with all due respect to the developers.
[18:00] <Sintient> that was my hope dasupergamer
[18:01] <amit2011> hii
[18:01] <Sintient> So far I only have a slide-show and OS personalizations.
[18:01] <amit2011> any1 knows how to type | separator symbol
[18:01] <dasupergamer> i use ubuntu but i also have windwos as my main OS cause i play world of warcraft]
[18:01] <beef-supreme> can anyone tell me what image viewer comes on by default on ubuntu 10.10?
[18:01] <RevSpecies116> You just did amit2011
[18:01] <dasupergamer> i write guides on the forums for playing under linux.... and the blizzard ppl thank me for it but don't sticky it
[18:01] <pksadiq> amit2011: how does you do now?
[18:02] <nmpribeiro> grub rescue> insmod normal (after doing prefix and root to the right places) gives me "error: out of disk". Same thing if I go beyond ls (hd3.1)/. HOwever, the mounting point / is visible using ls. Any one help? Thanks in advance
[18:02] <dasupergamer> to install 32 bit via wubi ..... right click on wubi application and add the arguement --32bit
[18:02] <amit2011> I copy pasted it
[18:02] <pksadiq> amit2011: shift + backslash key
[18:02] <Sidewinder1> "Full Ubuntu usage" from wubi;...Not a chance, but that's just my opinion. If you like it, install it and go from there. Dual boot will allow you to get "the best of both worlds. :-)
[18:03] <amit2011> I have edited thousands of wiki and I dont know this..
[18:03] <pksadiq> amit2011: usually just above the enter key or left of Backspace key
[18:03] <Sintient> but my problem is that there is virtually no usage Sidewinder1
[18:03] <amit2011> ok
[18:03] <amit2011> thanks guys
[18:03] <amit2011> millenia problem solved!
[18:04] <Sidewinder1> Sintient, Sorry, my responses were directed to dasupergamer
[18:04] <Sintient> I thought this would be a fairly straightforward process. I have been trying to install some Linux distro, but always encounter issues like this.
[18:05] <dasupergamer> i only use ubuntu for testing really... like openoffice or koffice vs office 2010 professional dats all..... or linux  mmorpgs vs windows mmorpgs... which is basuically anything mmorpg on linux vs world of warcraft
[18:05] <pksadiq> beef-supreme: oeg  i think
[18:05] <morosr> hi all! does anyone installed ubuntu on an acer tablet a500 with android?
[18:05] <Gargamel> that didnt work
[18:05] <Gargamel> :(
[18:05] <beef-supreme> pksadiq, eye of gnome?
[18:06] <Gargamel> still no wifi
[18:06] <Sidewinder1> dasupergamer, My sons are both WOW intense...They won't go anywhere near *nix for that reason.
[18:07] <Sintient> So, I am sol? Should I just unstall and find another Linux distro or installation method.
[18:07] <Gargamel> b43-fwcutter not found when trying to install the wifi driver
[18:07] <dasupergamer> wait
[18:07] <dasupergamer> how big is your hard drive
[18:07] <arunkumar413> hi, i want to convert some individual html files to a single pdf document? if not then htmls files> pdfs files then pdf files> single pdf. please help me
[18:07] <HackThePlanet> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[18:07] <dasupergamer> i cant help you on that one
[18:07] <Sintient> 230G
[18:08] <Sidewinder1> dasupergamer, If ubuntu has one weakness, it's the ability to play graphics intensive, multi-player windows games...
[18:08] <Pici> !who | dasupergamer
[18:08] <dasupergamer> ok.... keep the windows partition at 150gb and give 80gb to ubuntu.... i suggest isntall via USB
[18:08] <nmpribeiro> anyone about grub rescue out of disk error?
[18:08] <Gargamel> im trying to install the broadcom drivers in ubuntu 11.04 but it says b43-fwcutter not found
[18:08] <dasupergamer> when i speak to my web host matt...... i can sort out another website for ubuntu guides 'n' such......
[18:08] <Sintient> It has two partitions around 100G each I gave Ubuntu 20G
[18:09] <dasupergamer> sure
[18:09] <BluesKaj> !broadcom | Gargamel
[18:09] <dasupergamer> as i ahve a 1.5tb hard drive i am giving ubuntu around 100gb
[18:09] <morosr> hi all! does anyone installed ubuntu on an acer tablet a500 with android?
[18:10] <dasupergamer> nope... installing via android isn't possible
[18:10] <dasupergamer> unless there is an android ubuntu installer....... or android linux installer
[18:10] <Sintient> dasupergamer, I did install via USB
[18:10] <morosr> @Sintient how? please help me
[18:10] <Gargamel> crap looks like i nuke linux and put windows back on itr
[18:10] <dasupergamer> reformat your ubuntu partition and reinstall ubuntu
[18:10] <techzilla> ?
[18:11] <sam_> hello guys,, can I ask a question here ?
[18:11] <techzilla> shoot
[18:11] <Gargamel> !broadcom
[18:11] <ktosiek> sam_: don't ask to ask, just ask
[18:11] <Sintient> per directions here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[18:11] <Gargamel> i have read that and it dont work
[18:11] <Sintient> morosr
[18:11] <sam_> is there away to install gnome3 along with unity without problems ?
[18:11] <sam_> i need to have both
[18:12] <yaya> How to build a very light ubuntu ?
[18:12] <techzilla> yes, you can choose which one to enter in GDM
[18:12] <Rexodus> Both are installed sam_
[18:12] <kiichiro> on linux what do I do with .bin's?
[18:12] <ktosiek> sam_: you do have both, Ubuntu Classic is GNOME3 IIRC
[18:12] <Sidewinder1> !gnome3 | sam_
[18:12] <kannan_> can't write to /sys/class/rtc/rtc0/wakealarm even with root prvilages in 10.04 .. pls help me write to this file..
[18:12] <techzilla> ubuntu classic is no graphic effects, which I prefer
[18:13] <dasupergamer> @sam_ when you log in... click on the part to enter password... at the bottom you will see a drop down boss to change to ubuntu classic
[18:13] <ktosiek> techzilla: no, "no effects" is one of "ubuntu classic" versions :-)
[18:13] <baggar11> Anyone ati/amd eyefinity users in here with 3+ monitors? how was your experience setting it up? What card are you using?
[18:13] <sam_> I see .. ok thanks
[18:13] <amit2011> hii
[18:13] <amit2011> any1 know ubuntu-doc irc
[18:13] <techzilla> my bad, I regularly use kde
[18:14] <BluesKaj>  !who > Gargamel , dasupergamer, techzilla, kannan_
[18:14] <pksadiq> kiichiro: double click
[18:14] <Pici> amit2011: #ubuntu-doc oddly enough
[18:14] <techzilla> and ...doze at work,
[18:14] <kiichiro> grr, asks what I want to open it with
[18:14] <techzilla> which I have no choice on, check this even stoopider
[18:14] <Sidewinder1> Thanx, Blue :-)
[18:14] <Pici> Rexodus, ktosiek, sam_: Ubuntu Classic is GNOME 2.x
[18:14] <techzilla> I work AS A LINUX SYSADMIN
[18:14] <techzilla> talk about garbage
[18:14] <sam_> yeah I know .. I asked about Gnome3
[18:14] <kannan_> can't write to /sys/class/rtc/rtc0/wakealarm even with root prvilages in 10.04 .. pls help me write to this file..
[18:15] <amit2011> Pici: lol
[18:15] <Sintient> morosr, is there another distro or installation method I should use
[18:15] <ktosiek> Pici: thanks, I was sure it's 3 already (I'm using wmii and i3-tree)
[18:15] <pksadiq> kiichiro: chmod +x and double click might be enough if it is really an *executable*
[18:15] <BluesKaj> Sidewinder1, these conversations are getting ridiculous to follow ..ppl have to address their answers to nicks who are asking
[18:15] <sam_> this IRC is really cool ... can I install it on my computer to be a server ?
[18:15] <kiichiro> okay since I've obviously no idea how to install java on linux
[18:15] <techzilla> im currently at work, have time to kill...building php packages
[18:15] <techzilla> I'm going to ppa them when I'm done
[18:15] <XenoPhoenix> If KMS is enabled, I have green output on HDMI till I unplug and replug the TV (goes green again if i turn off and on the TV again), disabling modesetting using i915.modeset=0 fixes this issue however it is not a solution as it also disables graphical acceleration. This only occured with natty, no problems before upgrading, Any ideas?
[18:15] <Sidewinder1> BluesKaj, Totally agree! :-)
[18:15] <Rexodus> Pici: I know. Thats why I told him so :P
[18:16] <rypervenche> hi kiichiro
[18:16] <kiichiro> hey rypervenche
[18:16] <techzilla> php 5.3.6 for lucid coming soon to techzilla ppa
[18:16] <techzilla> hopefully before the next 4 hours
[18:17] <pksadiq> kiichiro: so easier way > right click the file > properties > permisions > tick Execute, and then double click ;)
[18:17] <morosr>  Sintient wich one?
[18:17] <kiichiro> there is no execute tick?
[18:18] <arunkumar413> how to convert some individual pages into their respective pdf in one go
[18:18] <Sidewinder1> kannan_, Open a terminal, type: gksudo gedit, enter your password and it should be able to write to any file...
[18:18] <Sintient> morosr, either. I just want a Linux distro that I can gain some experience with.
[18:18] <pksadiq> kiichiro: by default it will not be ticked,tick it
[18:18] <ktosiek> I'm getting "Error: AE_AML_INFINITE_LOOP" when trying to turn nVidia card off on my 1015PN
[18:18] <ktosiek> Any ideas why? (or where to ask?)
[18:18] <techzilla> @Sintient, ubuntu is that distro,
[18:19] <ktosiek> I'm doing: echo '\_SB.PCI0.P0P4.DGPU.DOFF' > /proc/acpi/call; cat /proc/acpi/call
[18:19] <Sintient> morosr, so far all I have experience with is the android os on my phone
[18:19] <techzilla> @Sintient, anything you do hold true in debian as well (except a few ubuntu specific things)
[18:19] <Jo_R> Hi everyone
[18:19] <Jo_R> Why aren't there checksums at http://www.ubuntu.com/download ?
[18:19] <alienmindtrick> so, this morning, trying to update my machine, i ended up updating to 11.10 oneiric instead of updating 11.04. now i can't access my files and folders. any thoughts (besides the obvious: i'm a d**b*ss)
[18:19] <Sintient> techzilla, I am trying with Ubuntu, but have been unsuccessful so far.
[18:19] <Jo_R> What is the checksum of ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso ?
[18:19] <oCean> Jo_R: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[18:19] <dasupergamer> dunno why
[18:20] <Jo_R> ah, thanks, oCean
[18:20] <Gargamel1> I give up
[18:20]  * Gargamel1 breaks out his windows XP pro disk
[18:20] <Jo_R> I wouldn't hide it like this.
[18:20] <techzilla> @Sintient what problems you having?
[18:20] <pksadiq> Gargamel1: NO, why?
[18:20] <tomjkear> Greeting community - first timer here!
[18:20] <ktosiek> Gargamel1: that'll hurt. At least try Win7
[18:20] <techzilla> @Sintient, iv got time to kill while my php packages build
[18:20] <Gargamel1> i have no internet on the linux machine
[18:21] <Rexodus> Pici: sry, you are right! The gnome version installed is 2.32
[18:21] <Jo_R> In case there's someone responsible here, it's really annoying to have to ask for such things.
[18:21] <tomjkear> damn, short time, gotta go
[18:21] <Sintient> techzilla, I tried using Wubi. I reboot and Ubuntu begins booting but stalls at the desktop/slideshow.
[18:21] <tomjkear> byeee
[18:21] <Gargamel1> trying to get my wifi card going and cannot seem to find the right drivers to install the drivers to get the belkin g wireless card up and ruinning
[18:21] <dasupergamer> well the nyour hardware isn't compatible.....
[18:22] <techzilla> @Sintient, wubi has some issues as of last I tried it (which I got in trouble for, at work)... which was a month ago. I had the same weird issues
[18:22] <Gargamel1> its a Belkin G Wireless F5D7000 Version 1134 with the broadcom chipset
[18:22] <Sintient> @techzilla, any other suggestions?
[18:22] <techzilla> @Sintient, it worked when I logged in with "Ubuntu Classic" mode
[18:22] <pksadiq> Gargamel1: install b43-fwcutter package , hope it would work
[18:22] <Sidewinder1> alienmindtrick, As I'm sure you've already surmised; you'll need to reinstall 11.04. :-(
[18:22] <Gargamel1> if i had net on that box i would
[18:23] <techzilla> @Sintient with gdm you can choose which WM/DE at login
[18:23] <ktosiek> Gargamel1: do you have any other box handy?
[18:23] <Gargamel1> i dont have any connection at all on that computer
[18:23] <Sidewinder1> alienmindtrick, Hope you backed everything up...
[18:23] <antlong> I think i created a user incorrectly, when i ssh in, i see $ in the prompt, instead of the usual user@hostname: prompt. how do i fix this?
[18:24] <Gargamel1> Kt i am on a windows box
[18:24] <techzilla> @antlong, you are missing default .bashrc files
[18:24] <alienmindtrick> sidewinder: trying to reinstall 11.04 is what was suggested yesterday when this actually began. that's how i ended up with 11.10.
[18:24] <techzilla> @antlong do this command in your home dir
[18:24] <alienmindtrick> sidewinder: no, nothing backed up since i had no intention of upgrading, just updating
[18:24] <techzilla> @antlong cp /etc/skel/.bash* ./
[18:24] <impiza> friends i have found a software called CyberLink_PowerDVD11 in windows it can play videos in 3D does linux have any kind of softwares like that
[18:25] <astraljava> Hello everyone, is anyone else missing the possibility of saving a session's applications into "memory" in Startup Applications?
[18:25] <astraljava> This in 11.04
[18:25] <ktosiek> Gargamel1: well, you can download packages and dependencies by hand from packages.ubuntu.com
[18:25] <arunkumar413> hi, i have some 100 individual html pages and i want to convert them to pdf in a single go. plz help me
[18:25] <ktosiek> and then use them when you set up your Ubuntu
[18:25] <Sidewinder1> alienmindtrick, That "should" never happen, by accident.
[18:25] <Sintient> @techzilla, how do I login with Ubuntu Classic mode?
[18:25] <Sidewinder1> !classic
[18:25] <alienmindtrick> sidewinder: i burned 11.04 to CD, but my machine won't boot from CD when i start it with it in the drive, nor will it boot from the CD when i try to manually
[18:26] <tsaknorris> hmm i have ath9k installed to this 11.04 ubuntu but there isnt ath9k.conf file?
[18:26] <tsaknorris> i checked the whole hdd
[18:26] <alienmindtrick> yes yes, i'm sure i'm wrong. it's like calling customer service when something breaks, you're GOING to be wrong
[18:26] <Sidewinder1> alienmindtrick, How did you initially install ubuntu?
[18:26] <alienmindtrick> but the issue is this, how do i fix it?
[18:26] <techzilla> @ Sintient, @ubottu had a good response
[18:26] <Sidewinder1> ^^
[18:27] <alienmindtrick> sidewinder: from CD
[18:27] <techzilla> @Sintient, if you are still freezing between gdm and desktop, tell me
[18:27] <tsaknorris> is there anymore something equal  package to linux-backsport-compat-wireless....
[18:27] <Sidewinder1> alienmindtrick, What changed? It did booy from CD, now it won't?
[18:27] <antlong> arunkumar413: http://pdfcrowd.com/
[18:27] <Sidewinder1> boot, even.
[18:27] <pksadiq> arunkumar413: do you now the app to conver html to pdf?
[18:27] <alienmindtrick> sidewinder: that would seem to be the case, yes
[18:28] <arunkumar413> pksadiq: no
[18:28] <Sintient> @techsilla, i ahe no option to select my username. I have boot options, the Ubuntu load screen and the desktop with slideshow. in that order
[18:28] <oCean> tsaknorris: what would ath9k.conf be used for?
[18:28] <arunkumar413> pksadiq: i think i can do it with openoffice
[18:28] <codinGenesis> i installed ubuntu 11.04... and then after i installed propritory drivers of my graphic card, but after installing them graphical display were not working properly
[18:28] <wirrr> can anyone recommend a good p2p client that connects to gnutella2 and all the kinds of networks like mldonkey connects to
[18:28] <techzilla> @Sintient, this stupid oversight of the wubi people, shoudl'nt stop you from using ubuntu, its still th ebest distro for new people, and truthfully even experienced people
[18:28] <Sidewinder1> alienmindtrick, Did you check your "boot order" in BIOS?
[18:28] <impiza> please pm me
[18:28] <alienmindtrick> sidewinder: how?
[18:28] <tsaknorris> oCean, well i could maybe see the settings because now atheros card isnt working well very bad connection compared to windows side
[18:29] <Sintient> @techzilla, so how do I do it, or where should I look for the ingormation?
[18:29] <Sidewinder1> alienmindtrick, Would you like to take this to PM?
[18:29] <alienmindtrick> sidewinder: whatever's appropriate
[18:29] <techzilla> @Sintient, I used to be a debian only person, but 5 years ago I tried ubuntu and like it.. but it wasn't llike it is now. the last 2 years I tried it agin, and it was flexible like debian but cleaner as well
[18:29] <oCean> tsaknorris: it's a kernelmodule
[18:30] <tsaknorris> yeah it is
[18:30] <arunkumar413> antlong: i'm looking for a batch converter. not a one by one manually
[18:30] <pksadiq> arunkumar413: I think wkhtmltopdf is somewhat like that
[18:30] <oCean> tsaknorris: you can see more info using modinfo ath9k, and change options using /etc/modprobe.d/
[18:30] <techzilla> Sintient: on sex
[18:30] <techzilla> sec
[18:30] <techzilla> ...not commenting on how that typo looked
[18:31] <bil21al> can any one help me.from where can i get guide line about triaging a bug ?
[18:31] <Rexodus> lol
[18:31] <tsaknorris> oCean, parm:           nohwcrypt:Disable hardware encryption (int) <-- i want to enable that
[18:32] <techzilla> @Sintient: ok check this out,http://www.liberiangeek.net/2011/04/change-classic-ubuntu-desktop-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal/
[18:32] <techzilla> @Sintient: description with pix
[18:32] <Sintient> @techzilla, sorry, but in my limited and ignorant experience it seems to be more broken than flexible. I have faith that I can find a way to make it work, but it it is becoming more frustrating.
[18:33] <dasupergamer> well......... who'd like to old gmaes like gta san andres that can use opengl for rendoring ported to ubuntu
[18:33] <techzilla> @Sintient, it is not ubuntu that is broken, it is the wubi install method
[18:33] <NCS_One_> can anyone help me install this http://paste.ubuntu.com/628515/
[18:33] <techzilla> @Sintient, it is always recommended to do a regular install... but to just try it out wubi it ok, if working
[18:34] <dasupergamer> use wubi to see if your hardware works... if wubi doesnt work your hardware doesnt work
[18:34] <Sintient> @techzilla, so how do I do a regular install.
[18:34] <impiza> i have found a software called CyberLink_PowerDVD11 in windows it can play videos in 3D !  does linux have any kind of softwares like that
[18:35] <techzilla> @Sintient: that is a whole nother story, its not difficult.. but needs some time and a good description online
[18:35] <Sintient> @dasupergamer, so I should assume that my Eee PC is not practical for Linux? Seems like a sweeping generalization.
[18:35] <techzilla> @Sintient: try wubi with classic install to see if you like it
[18:35] <dasupergamer> what.... can you tell me your make and model.....
[18:36] <dasupergamer> wait not what... shen
[18:36] <Sintient> @dasupergamer, ASUS Eee PC 1015PED-PU17
[18:36] <techzilla> @Sintient, you should.. if your commited to learning you won't regret it, if your serious on having a better computing experience, or commited to being a more able systems person
[18:36] <dasupergamer> thanks
[18:36] <techzilla> @Sintient: I'm not going to lie, transitioning to another OS is always frustrating
[18:37] <dasupergamer> it should work...
[18:37] <Sintient> @techailla, that's why I am here. It took me all morning to figure out how to use IRC
[18:37] <dasupergamer> try fermorting the ubuntu partition and then reinstall ubuntu
[18:37] <dasupergamer> reformating*
[18:38] <techzilla> @Sintient, but I don't know that many people who use GNU/Linux for years and go back to windoze... most that go back to MS either have to for apps, or go back in frustrating defeit after months at most
[18:38] <Giant81> linux can connect to a windows box using RDP, can I set somthing up to use mstsc to connect TO my linux box?
[18:39] <techzilla> @Sintient: are you a computer person?, or in IT, or student (like young student HS or BS)
[18:39] <dasupergamer> thats why i still use windows.... giving u... gonan try again but a step at a time... wubi testing is done... so now time for partition and dual boot.... but will sue BCD bootloader
[18:39] <dasupergamer> use*
[18:39] <tsaknorris> well anyway very crappy wlan connection
[18:39] <Giant81> I use windows and linux
[18:39] <tsaknorris> on windows its fast
[18:39] <Sintient> @techailla, I will look around for WUBI with classic install. I would love to be able to never use MS again. So far I haven't been able to
[18:39] <Giant81> I like them both, for different reasons, use the one you like and move on
[18:39] <techzilla> @Sintient: what about the link I sent you???
[18:39] <improveupon> can anyone recommend a p2p client program that connects to gnutella2 and basically everything else
[18:40] <dasupergamer> only thing is... windows has to have anti virus or your fucked
[18:40] <techzilla> @Sintient:, it has the instructions to log in, you already have it installed by default 11.04
[18:40] <maco> !language | dasupergamer
[18:40] <techzilla> you need link again
[18:40] <techzilla> @Sintient: you need link again
[18:40] <oCean> dasupergamer: mind your language here please
[18:40] <Giant81> dasupergamer, true but AVG is effective and free
[18:40] <dasupergamer> so is avast
[18:40] <Giant81> there you go
[18:41] <dasupergamer> but comodo lawl
[18:41] <tsaknorris> 02:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[18:41] <Giant81> and as linux gains popularity you'll see more viruses for it too
[18:41] <pksadiq> !topic
[18:41] <tsaknorris> does anybody other has problems with wireless
[18:41] <tsaknorris> with AR9285
[18:41] <dasupergamer> nope
[18:41] <Pici> !who
[18:41] <techzilla> @dasupergamer for GNU/Linux I like to use Fprot , its CMD only .. for file servers .. not GNU/Linux Desk use
[18:41] <Sintient> @techzilla, I am curious. I like being able to break the seal and see what is under the hood. I am program language illiterate.
[18:41] <dasupergamer> http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/230284/dont_like_ubuntus_unity_try_one_of_these_desktops_instead.html - different GUIs to unity
[18:42] <tsaknorris> Quality=67/70  Signal level=-43 dBm
[18:42] <oCean> tsaknorris: I'm using that AR928x myself, no issues
[18:42] <tsaknorris> i want its atleast 67/100
[18:42] <ballball87> HEY AVERY BODY
[18:42] <tsaknorris> oCean, what iwlist scan is showing?
[18:42] <ballball87> MERLINS BEARD I LOVE UBUNTU
[18:42] <dasupergamer> does ubuntu support the new ati raedon the 6990 4gb
[18:42] <pajero> hi
[18:42] <oCean> ballball87: hi, no need to SHOUT here
[18:42] <techzilla> @Sintient, curiosity alone, might have you trying it... but when the going gets though its commitment that is what gets you through...
[18:42] <john_rambo> Cant open any website but Xchat is working ...How to proceed ?
[18:43] <cheshair> hi! ubuntu 11.04 -> system settings -> compiz manager settings -> preferences: i switched by accident from "unity" to "Default" and everything went pear-shaped: i don't have bars nor panels anymore, i tried reinstalling gdm/compiz/unity/ubuntu-desktop/... with no luck; can you help me?
[18:43] <dasupergamer> switch back to unity before you  log in
[18:43] <impiza> avast is better one
[18:43] <techzilla> @ dasupergamer, ubuntu might not OOB
[18:43] <Sintient> @techzilla, please send the link again
[18:43] <techzilla> @ dasupergamer, but ati does
[18:43] <techzilla> @Sintient, ok one second
[18:44] <cheshair> dasupergamer: if i reboot my computer or simply restart gdm, i am in with no auth required (which is weird)
[18:44] <techzilla> @Sintient, http://www.liberiangeek.net/2011/04/change-classic-ubuntu-desktop-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal/
[18:44] <tsaknorris> damn :D now my friend isnt going to use linux, because bad connection to wlan router
[18:44] <techzilla> @cheshair, that is a configuration option
[18:44] <techzilla> @cheshair, a risky one
[18:44] <cheshair> techzilla: i am all ears
[18:45] <dasupergamer> i don't know then
[18:45] <Sintient> @techzilla, thanks for the help
[18:45] <tsaknorris> maybe i can recompile whole driver :/
[18:45] <gumus> are we allowed to talk about hardware issues here ?
[18:45] <dasupergamer> go ahead
[18:45] <tsaknorris> i dont think of anything else
[18:45] <techzilla> @Sintient, no prob.. good luck
[18:45] <dasupergamer> does the gt 520 work mit ubuntu
[18:46] <Sintient> @dasupergamer, thanks for the help.
[18:46] <gumus> ok, i got two Wireless Cards
[18:46] <gumus> PCI
[18:46] <techzilla> @cheshair, one second
[18:46] <cheshair> techzilla: ok, thanks
[18:46] <gumus> i don't know which one is better
[18:46] <dasupergamer> makes and models
[18:46] <techzilla> @cheshair, use !gdmsetup 
[18:47] <oCean> tsaknorris: 67/100 is not bad at all
[18:47] <oCean> ehr
[18:47] <cheshair> @techzilla: i will and let you know
[18:47] <gumus> Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG and the other one WM3B2200BG
[18:47] <oCean> tsaknorris: 67/70 is not bad at all (it's not 67 out of 100)
[18:47] <dasupergamer> both intel...... right
[18:47] <techzilla> @cheshair, not sure if its installed by default these days
[18:47] <gumus> yes
[18:47] <gumus> or maybe they r just the same ^^  i have no idea [absolute beginner]
[18:47] <techzilla> @cheshair, after the GDM1 to GDM2 switch things got (and still are) ugly
[18:48] <dasupergamer> what type... b/g/n n+n
[18:48] <dasupergamer> mine i g and my router is G+ no issues in ubuntu
[18:48] <gumus> i guess you mean supported protocols? but i don't know where to check it from
[18:48] <cheshair> @techzilla: i will have some tries with gdm setup (let's hope i won't have to reinstall my wall distro from scratch!)
[18:48] <gumus> *them
[18:49] <dasupergamer> i suggest use the one thats on your mtoherobard if any of them are
[18:49] <techzilla> @cheshair, no that's rarely required in the GNU/Linux world
[18:49] <dasupergamer> motherboard* as they work better than the PCI ones any way
[18:49] <dasupergamer> also who wants a world of warcraft linux client
[18:49] <cheshair> @techzilla at the moment i have a bare naked desktop with icons and the pointer
[18:50] <gumus> in fact , i detached one of them from my notebook because i get poor signal
[18:50] <techzilla> @cheshair, o wow...diffrent story altogether
[18:50] <dasupergamer> pres ctrl+a;t+t to load terminal
[18:50] <cheshair> @techzilla no bars nor keyboard shortcuts to launch a terminal!
[18:50] <dasupergamer> then run compiz via terminal
[18:50] <techzilla> @cheshair, if you can do it without regard to old setup.. then blast it away
[18:50] <techzilla> @cheshair, did you kill system during updates
[18:50] <techzilla> ?
[18:50] <dasupergamer> then reinstall ubuntu or boot into recovery mode
[18:51] <techzilla> @cheshair, or actually, you could just try deleteing your user config directories
[18:51] <techzilla> @cheshair, one sec, I'll see which one
[18:51] <cheshair> @techzilla to blast away what?
[18:51] <dlynes> I accidentally enabled the Mythbuntu desktop...any idea how to reenable the Gnome desktop?
[18:52] <iNethack> yo
[18:52] <Pici> dasupergamer: If you're talking to someone in particular, could you please put their nick at the front of your message?  Its very confusing otherwise.
[18:52] <techzilla> ok try "rm -rf .gnome2
[18:52] <dlynes> I'm guessing it's dpkg-reconfigure something....I just don't know what that 'something' would be
[18:52] <iNethack> During installation of Ubuntu 11.04, it doesn't detect Windows 7 x64 - is this a known issue? I'm using a SAMSUNG AHCI SATA hard drive
[18:52] <BluesKaj> dlynes, hit the \ key
[18:52] <NCS_One_> can anyone help me install ricoh memory stick this http://paste.ubuntu.com/628515/
[18:52] <techzilla> @cheshair, try "rm -rf .gnome2" with an xterm or gnome-terminal... or log in to console
[18:52] <dlynes> BluesKaj, eh?
[18:53] <cheshair> @techzilla ok i will
[18:53] <dasupergamer> erm.... install the boot loader to another partition... the nuse easybcd to add an entry for grub2 called ubuntu
[18:53] <cheshair> @techzilla then what? should i restart gdm?
[18:53] <Sidewinder1> iNethack, After installation, did you try, from a terminal, sudo update-grub?
[18:53] <techzilla> @cheshair, yes restart gdm after that
[18:53] <BluesKaj> should bring you back to the normal desktop, dlynes
[18:53] <cheshair> @techzilla /etc/init.d/gdm restart?
[18:53] <techzilla> actually do a
[18:53] <cheshair> ok
[18:53] <dasupergamer> @NCS_One_ USBs should work like windows plug and play
[18:53] <techzilla> @cheshair, pkill -9 X
[18:53] <iNethack> Sidewinder1: No because it doesn't detect Windows 7, it only gives me the option to format the drive
[18:53] <cheshair> ok
[18:53] <sundar> hi... how do I tell ubuntu that I never want some packages selected in the Update manager? Like chromium-browser or cups related stuff?
[18:54] <iNethack> And I don't want to format the entire drive
[18:54] <NCS_One_> dasupergamer: not usb memory stick
[18:54] <dlynes> BluesKaj, And what do I need to focus on, in order for it to read the backslash key?
[18:54] <dasupergamer> click manual install options
[18:54] <iNethack> It doesn't give me the option of using the free space on the drive, and it also says that the drive is 320GB of free space
[18:54] <dasupergamer> then i dont know then NCS_One_
[18:54] <BluesKaj> cheshair, fyi , @ doesn't work on irc, just use the nick and it will highlight
[18:54] <Sidewinder1> !who
[18:54] <dlynes> BluesKaj, I have the clock in the upper right hand corner, a light black bar across the top, and a black screen underneath, with absolutely nothing else
[18:54] <dasupergamer> before isntalling use a tool like gnome partition editor to partition the drive
[18:55] <dlynes> BluesKaj, when ubuntu booted up, on the splash screen, it said 'Mythbuntu', instead of 'Ubuntu'
[18:55] <tuxicity> Hello, I've just received a notebook and I would like to install Ubuntu from a USB Hard Drive (not a USB Flash Drive). Is that even possible?
[18:55] <theadmin> sundar: echo "PACKAGENAME hold" | sudo dpkg --set-selections
[18:55] <iNethack> Sidewinder1: It doesn't give me the option of using the free space on the drive, and it also says that the drive is 320GB of free space
[18:55] <dasupergamer> yes... just don't put any other files onto the hard drive... as the install crashes
[18:55] <dasupergamer> as i ahve learned
[18:55] <dasupergamer> have*
[18:56] <BluesKaj> dlynes, then you have the mythubuntu set as your default desktop , relogin and choose ubuntu in the drop down menu
[18:56] <dlynes> BluesKaj, there is no drop down menu, because ubuntu's set to automatically log in
[18:57] <Sidewinder1> iNethack, Once you boot to LiveCD, have you tried to use "Gparted" to check your partitions to make sure that you have at least one logical drive that is formatted to ext3/ext4 to install ubuntu, to?
[18:57] <cheshair> @techzilla ok, i deleted the .gnome2 folder and pkilled X, then i got the gdm login screen back alive. if i choose ubuntu as profile then i get the same problem (only icons on my desktop, everything else is dead). on the other hand if i choose the "ubuntu classic" profile i manage to get into a classic (apparently working) system
[18:58] <iNethack> Sidewinder1: it says my drive is 320GB of free space
[18:58] <ben_q> hey guys, is there a tool that lets me make an image of the directory-list of an external HDD? so I can search it without having the HDD on? (got lots of externals...)
[18:58] <iNethack> Sidewinder1: which its clearly not, given that W7 x64 is installed and working on there
[18:58] <cheshair> @techzilla how do you think i can restore the standard 11.04 ubuntu settings?
[18:58] <mbeierl> I have a new 11.04 install of ubuntu and it appears to have some sort of IRC bot rootkit or something on it.  There is a directory in /dev/shm called ".../lnx" and it contains files as described here: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=723974
[18:58] <techzilla> cheshair
[18:58] <techzilla> @ cheshair, that did not work
[18:59] <mbeierl> Anyone else come across this one?  I don't have apache or PHP installed on this machine
[18:59] <techzilla> ok.. kill all dot dires
[18:59] <techzilla> goto your home dir
[18:59] <cheshair> techzilla ok
[18:59] <techzilla> and do , (this will kill any sshkeys or anything in a hidden direct)
[18:59] <cheshair> techzilla ok
[19:00] <BluesKaj> dlynes, http://souta95.blogspot.com/2010/06/change-autologin-settings-in-ubuntu.html
[19:00] <omegaphi> can someone help me unistall phpmyadmin from my ubuntu?
[19:00] <techzilla> @cheshair, "rm -rf ./.*"
[19:01] <techzilla> @ cheshair, then restart system
[19:01] <techzilla> @ cheshair ,if that doesn't work.. tell me
[19:01] <cheshair> techzilla a little backup, then the rm and finally the restart, i'll be back in a minute
[19:01] <BluesKaj> techzilla, fyi , @ doesn't work on irc, just use the nick and it will highlight
[19:01] <mbeierl> it also created the following crontab for me: "* * * * * /dev/shm/.../lnx/update >/dev/null 2>&1"
[19:02] <iNethack> !tab
[19:02] <omegaphi> *reposting* can someone help me unistall phpmyadmin from my ubuntu?
[19:02] <Sidewinder1> iNethack, What you need to do is use the Win7, defrag function and defrag it at least twice; then shrink it to the final size that you need for the NTFS partition. Then using Gparted from LiveCD make a new logical partition and format it to ext3/ext4 and install ubuintu there. Make sure that you back-up all data from your NTFS partition prior to doing the above.
[19:03] <Jaded> thanks ubottu, didn't even know
[19:03] <rahulr92> hi
[19:03] <rahulr92> I am a linux newbie and am using Ubuntu Ultimate edition (jaunty).I tried to update my sys. through terminal using 'sudo apt-get update'. I am getting a series of error msgs like "Err http://in.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/restricted Packages     404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.30 80]". Can anyone tell me how to update and upgrade my distro? I know that my version is no longer supported.
[19:03] <iNethack> Sidewinder1: I can't do that! GParted says my drive is 320GB of free space
[19:03] <iNethack> Sidewinder1: so if I try to format it, it will format the entire drive. I can't create partitions or anything
[19:04] <iNethack> Just FYI my drive is 320GB in size
[19:04] <pksadiq> rahulr92: Ubuntu Ultimate edition is not supported here
[19:04] <oCean> rahulr92: jaunty is EOL and the utlimate edition is not supported in this channel
[19:05] <iNethack> ill be back in a min, ill try it again
[19:05] <iNethack> brb
[19:05] <Horusofoz> How to create a shared folder for another user?  EG my admin account share "guest user" desktop folder so can be access via samba
[19:05] <kender_> hello everyone
[19:05] <Horusofoz> when I try to create the share using "guest user" account won't allow
[19:06] <techzilla> BluesKaj thanks
[19:06] <kender_> I just installed Gnome 3 in ubuntu using the ppa and I noticed that it is not searching through the files in my home when I type something in the search bar
[19:06] <kender_> has anybody had a similar problem?
[19:06] <oCean> !gnome3 | kender_ it's not supported
[19:06] <computerx> Brain meltdown, what's wrong with this? find . -name "*.flac" -exec "ffmpeg -i {} -f wav pipe: | lame --abr 192 -q 1 - {}.mp3" \;
[19:06] <techzilla> kender_ , there really is no "The" for a ppa
[19:06] <Oer> kender_, gnome3 is not supported yet, unstable
[19:07] <MoleMan> easiest way to add a ppa on ubuntu server 11.04?
[19:07] <techzilla> kender_ , there are so many of them, they are by definition "Personal" even if they are Public
[19:07] <techzilla> MoleMan, use the new apt ppa syntax
[19:07] <dasupergamer> @moleman via software sources
[19:07] <dasupergamer> found in the ubuntu software central
[19:07] <techzilla> MoleMan , as long as you hava recent ubuntu
[19:08] <roninkaoto> sup?!
[19:08] <techzilla> MoleMan , on the ppa page there is a help for using the ppa, they show the command there
[19:08] <MoleMan> erm... is that a GUI tool? i'm using server 11.04 so i just have command line...
[19:08] <techzilla> MoleMan , my reccomendation was for CMD
[19:09] <kender_> techzilla: I meant the ppa pointed by ubottu
[19:09] <techzilla> kender_, my bad
[19:09] <kender_> I understand it's unstable and I installed it taking that risk
[19:09] <oCean> MoleMan: use apt-add-repository
[19:09] <kender_> but it doesn't mean there couldn't be a solution to my problem ;-)
[19:10] <Horusofoz> How ubuntu admin share other users folder?
[19:10] <saf_> Hello, I have a question about MIT / GPL / LGPL licensing
[19:10] <oCean> kender_: correct, but "not supported" means that it is not supported in this channel
[19:10] <kender_> oCean: alright ;-) thanks anyway
[19:10] <MoleMan> oCean i tried that but it said command not found
[19:11] <techzilla> does anyone know if there is an unoffical ubuntu support channel for kender?
[19:11] <techzilla> actually, would like to know myself especially for ppa launchad stuff
[19:11] <dasupergamer> whats kender
[19:11] <amit121> hii
[19:11] <techzilla> the user
[19:11] <amit121> I cant update
[19:11] <kender_> dasupergamer: he means for me
[19:11] <saf_> I am wondering if it is possible to use NLopt (C library) in a commercial development task
[19:11] <techzilla> is guess @kender
[19:11] <amit121> It shows error http://pastebin.com/Sn5FpbGn
[19:11] <oCean> MoleMan: maybe it's optional command. It is in the package python-software-properties
[19:11] <dasupergamer> oh... whats the problem then
[19:12]  * ericP , hoping some network tool geeks are around, repeats earlier question:
[19:12] <mbeierl> the content of the directory which contains the suspicious code is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/628534/  I can't seem to find any valid posts about what this vulnerability is or how it gets installed on a computer.  Anyone good with recovering from a hack?
[19:12] <ericP> I'm using a compiz with the standard (as in i didn't tweak anything) network controller interface (the thing which puts the the wifi icon in the main menu bar).
[19:12] <ericP> After a couple days, the menu that comes up when clicking the wifi icon is unresponsive (no meny selections do anything except for [More Netorks] and [VPN Connections], which paint a tiny empty box).
[19:12] <amit121> cant updAte   It shows error http://pastebin.com/Sn5FpbGn
[19:12] <amit121> any ideas guys
[19:12] <ericP> How do I restart this tool in hopes of restoring network control without having to log out?
[19:12] <ericP> (Whatever restarts implied by reinstalling network-manager-gnome didn't do the trick.)
[19:12] <dasupergamer> i can recover hacks... its called back up all data and files 'n' shen and reinstall
[19:12] <ericP> (This occurred after a 10.10 to 11.04 upgrade.)
[19:13] <cheshair> techzilla i will use "rm -fr ./.[a-zA-Z]*" otherwise i am afraid i'll delete my home
[19:13] <dasupergamer> i am off in a minute wonna paly warcraft 3 lol
[19:13] <amit121> cant updAte   It shows error http://pastebin.com/Sn5FpbGn
[19:13] <amit121> any ideas guys
[19:14] <techzilla> cheshair, that's fine.. I believe you don't need to regex but why take risk
[19:14] <cheshair> techzilla: hmmm sure? if i launch a tar cjf with only ./.* it eats everything
[19:15] <cheshair> techzilla: i'll investigate further and let you know when i am ready
[19:15] <rly> I am running Gnome Classic, but my application icons (e.g. Skype, Pidgin, etc.) are not visible. How can I get those icons visible?
[19:15] <techzilla> yes my command work, just tested it again
[19:16] <sundar> theadmin: Thanks... Will I have to manually do this for every PACKAGENAME? Do wildcards work (eg. "cups*") ?
[19:16] <gargamel1> i got the b43-fwcutter how do i install it?
[19:16] <techzilla> cheshair, yes command "rm -rf ./.*" works as intened
[19:17] <gargamel1> i compiled it and it still says not intstalled
[19:17] <techzilla> cheshair, you will get these messages though rm: cannot remove `.' directory `./.'
[19:17] <techzilla> rm: cannot remove `..' directory `./..'
[19:17] <techzilla> cheshair, but will delete only the . dirs
[19:18] <techzilla> cheshair, we are specifing the directory with ./ (saying this current dir) then .
[19:18] <techzilla> cheshair, you could also do "rm -rf ./\.*" if that makes you more comfortable
[19:18] <gargamel1> ^_^
[19:18] <gargamel1> :(
[19:19] <techzilla> \ = interprete literally
[19:19] <gargamel1> having bad luck with ubuntu 11.04 and my wifi card
[19:19] <Horusofoz> Does "accountx" have to exist on "pca" and "pcb" to access files on both machines from each other?
[19:19] <theadmin> sundar: Nope, and yes, manually for every
[19:19] <Horusofoz> not pca win pcb buntu
[19:20] <theadmin> sundar: Or you can set up a script
[19:20] <Ray2> hey
[19:20] <BernardV> Horusofoz: Nope, you can login with credentials, so they won't have to exists on both.
[19:20] <gargamel1> i know i know i can fix the ubuntu box!! with about 4 oz of C4 and a blasting cap!!!
[19:21] <mbeierl> sorry to spam, but i'm on a new network which blocks IRC and I have to use webchat.  Am I muted or can others read me?
[19:21] <Horusofoz> BernardV: it appears that unless I enable access to everyone though it gives password error (win7 accessing ubuntu11.04 share
[19:21] <BernardV> mbeierl: ping
[19:21] <gargamel1> im getting extremely frustrated with this wifi card on my ubuntu machine
[19:22] <mbeierl> BernardV: thanks!
[19:22] <amit121> mbeierl we cant read you.. joking
[19:22] <mbeierl> amit121: hee he...
[19:22] <seidos> gargamel1: have you talked to papasmurf about it?
[19:22] <dlynes> BluesKaj, actually....just realized...it does allow me to log in, but no drop down to choose a window manager/desktop
[19:22] <gargamel1> seidos no
[19:23] <mbeierl> Still trying to get to the root cause of this apparent irc bot hack that showed up on my clean install Natty 11.04.  This is very concerning from a security perspective.
[19:23] <fbnts> Hi, I have recently swapped out my PC which I use for mythtv frontend.  The video output on the lcd is showing the wrong colours (blue appears greenish & red appears green)  I have tried HDMI and a DVI cable but both do the same
[19:23] <OomElvis> Q: my skype disappears when i open it.... like into oblivion
[19:24] <gargamel1> grrrr
[19:24] <fbnts> It was working fine on my other LCD but not on the current one
[19:24] <cheshair> techzilla: you were right! no harm at all to my files using your code (sorry i was doubtful); then i restarted the system; now it's working fine again!!!! techzilla thank you sooooo much!!! i wish i could tell you how grateful i am with my own voice
[19:24] <OomElvis> i hear it  starting up, but cant see anything. process is running and everything
[19:24] <OomElvis> ideas?
[19:24] <gargamel1> time for the shotgun!
[19:24] <gargamel1> BOOM!
[19:24] <BernardV> Horusofoz: Dit you check the default windows<->samba problems, like: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/75-63-windows-samba-issue (post from nikonz)
[19:24] <oCean> gargamel1: please stop with nonsense messages
[19:24] <seidos> gargamel1: sorry, i can't find papasmurf
[19:24] <seidos> gargamel1: what's the chipset?  did you search the forums?
[19:25] <BernardV> Horusofoz: Not that this is the answer right away, but I never had problems btw
[19:25] <gargamel1> yes i have searched the forums and its a broadcom
[19:25] <gargamel1> belkin g wireless
[19:25] <`Lynx> does ubuntu server offers everything desktop one offers besides a desktop environment? i'm going to download the server edition and install openbox on it cuz i hate gnome
[19:26] <Jaded> lynx
[19:26] <Jaded> why don't you install ubuntu from a minimal CD?
[19:26] <`Lynx> Jaded: wouldnt it be the same?
[19:26] <`Lynx> lol
[19:26] <`Lynx> server comes with basic packages as far i know
[19:26] <`Lynx> a netinstall would be the same
[19:27] <savid> I installed Natty recently,  and it seems that network printers that were once visible are no longer visible.  Is there something special I have to do to be able to discover network printers?
[19:27] <saf_> Is it possible (legal) to use code libraries in commercial development? The library in question is NLopt, and I would like to use the algorithms to run on some commercially sold devices. Is this allowed?
[19:27] <oCean> `Lynx: there are also a few kernel differences for the -server image
[19:28] <`Lynx> oCean: would it harm a laptop?
[19:28] <oCean> `Lynx: not at all
[19:28] <aima_> saf_, linking to the libraries is allowed
[19:28] <savid> oh nm, I had to change the settings.
[19:28] <theadmin> saf_: Yes, it is released under LGPL
[19:28] <aima_> thought it depends on the precise license I suppose
[19:29] <saf_> aima_, thank you for the quick response :)
[19:29] <aima_> if you alter the library you should distribute your changes
[19:29] <`Lynx> oCean: can you list me the differences?
[19:29] <saf_> I only plan on using some of the algorithms, not altering them
[19:30] <oCean> `Lynx: see here https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/C/preparing-to-install.html
[19:30] <sundar> theadmin: okay, thanks again
[19:30] <Sazpaimon> Okay so how do I get VNC to play nice with Unity
[19:31] <Sazpaimon> I'm getting tons of ghosting and non-updating graphics
[19:31] <`Lynx> l
[19:31] <`Lynx> ok*
[19:32] <MoleMan> how can i install a package from a PPA? I have added the PPA to my sources.list but i think the package has the same name as one in the ubuntu repositories as its a more up-to date version. do I need to specify somehow?
[19:33] <dlynes> BluesKaj, ah hah....this time I noticed after I typed in my username, that session type list does pop up....didn't realize that before...thought it would show up even when prompting me for a username...thanks
[19:34] <theadmin> MoleMan: No, just run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[19:34] <theadmin> MoleMan: It'll upgrade to the latest version whatever repository it's in
[19:34] <`Lynx> oCean: im going to install the minimal instead of server, where can i download it?
[19:34] <`Lynx> cant find it ansywhere
[19:34] <`Lynx> on the official site
[19:35] <Logan_> !minimal | `Lynx
[19:35] <BluesKaj> MoleMan, don't install appa if there's a version of the app in the standard default repos ...the ppa is probly an older version that was under development a while back
[19:35] <theadmin> `Lynx: All the latest release images: http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/
[19:36] <MoleMan> BluesKaj: well its transmission, and i've been told in the irc channel that the version i have (installed from official last night) is quite old and to get the up to date version from PPA
[19:37] <omegaphi> hi how can i start mysql from ubuntu terminal?
[19:37] <BluesKaj> ppa versions are usually unstable ..but that's your choice
[19:37] <mbeierl> So the bot that was installed on my system is EnergyMech, but I still cannot firgure out how it got there :(
[19:38] <improveupon> suddenly it strikes me as funny... i went to a web page that gave you a pop up window when you tried to navigate away... and it was like a legit and honest site... and i confirmed i wanted to navigate away and it let me... how novel
[19:38] <omegaphi> I can't start mysql from ubuntu terminal? can someone please help :)
[19:39] <improveupon> i have never seen such a pop-up window that was not a trap
[19:39] <nmvictor> I am lacking ~/mozilla/firefox/chrome/userchrome.css file, Anyone sufficiently philanthropic to pastebin theirs for me.
[19:39] <sysop-work> why doesnt this work? (/usr/sbin/apache2 -S 3>&1 1>&2- 2>&3-)|grep -v Virtual
[19:40] <nmvictor> rypervenche:
[19:40] <wsagent> please need help urgently flash not working in chromium as well as firefox ubuntu 10.10
[19:41] <Limone> HI!
[19:41] <wsagent> please need help urgently flash not working in chromium as well as firefox ubuntu 10.10
[19:41] <Voodoolar> hi all
[19:42] <bazhang> !repeat | wsagent
[19:42] <XenoPhoenix> *REPOST* If KMS is enabled, I have green output on HDMI till I unplug and replug the TV (goes green again if i turn off and on the TV again), disabling modesetting using i915.modeset=0 fixes this issue however it is not a solution as it also disables graphical acceleration. This only occured with natty, no problems before upgrading, Any ideas?
[19:42] <Voodoolar> !repeat | wsagent
[19:42] <wsagent> ubottu : Thanks i will wait
[19:43] <mikewasoskyyyyy> hello
[19:43] <afroman> hello
[19:43] <Limone> HELLO!
[19:44] <mikewasoskyyyyy> i have aproblem with the wireless
[19:44] <mikewasoskyyyyy> can you help me
[19:44] <Limone> no
[19:44] <afroman> would anyone tell me why U can't see the icons of running prog on Unity?
[19:44] <afroman> mikewasoskyyyyy: what kind of prob?
[19:45] <rly> I am running Gnome Classic, but my application icons (e.g. Skype, Pidgin, etc.) are not visible. How can I get those icons visible?
[19:45] <mikewasoskyyyyy> after a upgrade ( i have ubuntu 11.04 ) and a reboot
[19:46] <wsagent> ubottu : Thanks i will wait
[19:46] <mikewasoskyyyyy> the wireless is unavailable
[19:46] <Z_God> when I try to compile a newer mesa for lucid, all opengl apps give me this error: ELF load command address/offset not properly aligned
[19:46] <Z_God> does anyone know if that can be solved?
[19:46] <mikewasoskyyyyy> i'm connected with a mobile card at the moment
[19:47] <afroman> rly: right click on the top, workspace
[19:47] <wsagent> help me pls :  flash not working in chromium as well as firefox ubuntu 10.10
[19:47] <BluesKaj> mikewasoskyyyyy, we need more info about your wifi chip etc
[19:47] <rly> afroman: that makes no sense or is wrong.
[19:48] <wsagent> i couldn't find libflashplayer.so anywhere in my computer
[19:48] <afroman> rly: try this--- right click on the top bar
[19:48] <mikewasoskyyyyy> ok what is the command to copy to output of ifconfig on a webpage?
[19:48] <rly> afroman: yes...
[19:49] <rly> afroman: and then?
[19:49] <afroman> rly: it's hard to be exact coz I'm running Unity
[19:49] <rly> afroman: I just want to know the name of the applet or component which does that.
[19:49] <afroman> rly: workspace
[19:50] <afroman> rly: or was it working space?
[19:50] <afroman> rly: something like that
[19:50] <rly> afroman: workspace is for switching between workspaces.
[19:50] <redmenace> help for some
[19:50] <afroman> rly: give me a sec
[19:51] <wsagent> help me pls :  flash not working in chromium as well as firefox ubuntu 10.10
[19:51] <wsagent> help me pls :  flash not working in chromium as well as firefox ubuntu 10.10
[19:51] <wsagent> i couldn't find libflashplayer.so anywhere in my computer
[19:51] <redmenace> help for some reason today my netbook cant connect to my wifi network
[19:51] <FloodBot1> wsagent: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:51] <omegaphi> *reposting* I can't start mysql from ubuntu terminal? can someone please help :)
[19:51] <wsagent> floodbot1: sorry
[19:52] <Corey> omegaphi: Didn't we go through this yesterday?
[19:52] <Corey> 12:06:30 < Corey> omegaphi: /etc/init.d/mysql start
[19:53] <redmenace> has any one else had this problem? It cant connect every other day, execpt today and yesterday
[19:53] <omegaphi> Corey , yes but today when I started the system, I couldn't login to phmyadmin, then I removed phpmyadmin, now I am getting errors on starting mysql
[19:53] <oCean> wsagent: try installing package flashplugin-installer
[19:54] <theadmin> omegaphi: sudo service mysql start
[19:54] <Raj007> killall mysql
[19:54] <theadmin> omegaphi: Ah I see
[19:54] <omegaphi> theadmin , Corey: where should I install phpmyadmin from that it work?
[19:55] <wsagent> oCean : i already tried apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[19:55] <mikewasoskyyyyy> is it the correct chat for ubuntu 11.04 and network?
[19:55] <afroman> rly: U there?
[19:55] <afroman> rly: notification area
[19:55] <redmenace> plz i need to connect to wifi
[19:55] <Raj007> try this sudo rm -rf /
[19:55] <omegaphi> theadmin , Corey: my mysql starts with "mysql --host=localhost --protocol=TCP" instead of just "mysql" :(
[19:55] <GuyCanada> hey guys, im trying to run an .exe in wine and it says i need JRE. ive been looking around and it seems to be that a java .exe should run under java in linux without the use of wine? is this true and how can i go about doing it
[19:56] <afroman> how do I get the notification area (the place for icons on the top right) on Unity?
[19:56] <oCean> Raj0007: please don't suggest that again here
[19:56] <Corey> Raj0007: Not funny.  Don't do it again.
[19:56] <rly> afroman: I solved my problem.
[19:57] <redmenace> can some one help?
[19:57] <codinGenesis> customization of unity possible ??
[19:57] <rly> afroman: I see that you found it too.
[19:57] <afroman> rly: actually I have the same prob, except I need it for Unity
[19:57] <Corey> redmenace: I've seen issues when the AP is N only, and the netbook only speaks G.
[19:57] <redmenace> what?
[19:57] <codinGenesis> customization of unity possible or we can change anything in it??
[19:57] <rly> afroman: I think Unity is basically incompatible with that.
[19:58] <rly> afroman: just drop Unity, until 12.10.
[19:58] <mikewasoskyyyyy> i'm an absolute beginner ( i know)  please can you help me or address me to the right chat for ubuntu 11.04 and network problems?
[19:58] <redmenace> oh Corey i know what you mean, but it always works before
[19:58] <Corey> redmenace: "What changed?"
[19:58] <rly> mikewasoskyyyyy: you can also try the forums.
[19:59] <rly> mikewasoskyyyyy: but you can just _ask_ here too.
[19:59] <afroman> rly: I hope U mean 11.10 other wise that would be a long wait :P
[19:59] <Corey> mikewasoskyyyyy: You've found it. :-)
[19:59] <rly> afroman: that is not what I meant.
[19:59] <Corey> I'm holding out for 12.04; it's time for an LTS that doesn't have such... "interesting" upstart issues / interface bonding bugs.
[19:59] <rly> afroman: they could fix it likely in a few months time, if they had some decent programmers.
[20:00] <mikewasoskyyyyy> ok rly thatnkj
[20:00] <mikewasoskyyyyy> ok Corey
[20:00] <codinGenesis> is customization of unity possible??
[20:00] <mikewasoskyyyyy> now
[20:00] <codinGenesis> pls anyone answer ???
[20:00] <afroman> mikewasoskyyyyy: do U know how to see ur available wireless connections?
[20:00] <rly> codinGenesis: sure, it is open source ;)
[20:00] <bazhang> codinGenesis, confity can a bit
[20:01] <redmenace> the card in my netbook is 802.11b/g/n idk what changed corey
[20:01] <rly> codinGenesis: otherwise there are some pointless tools, which suck.
[20:01] <mikewasoskyyyyy> afroman: the commend should be ifconfig isn't it?
[20:01] <afroman> rly: 12.10 is way to far that would be probl 10-15 months
[20:01] <rly> If I read this, this is the year of the Linux desktop.
[20:01] <rly> People entering random characters with the hope of being understood.
[20:01] <GuyCanada> rly, ever year is the year of thel inux desktop ahaha, at least they always say it is
[20:02] <codinGenesis> bazhang: what is confity ?
[20:02] <zaksoldier> Hi all
[20:02] <rly> codinGenesis: the crappy tool I was referring to.
[20:02] <bazhang> rly, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[20:02] <afroman> mikewasoskyyyyy: I was thinking of just the simple way, left click on the wireless connection
[20:02] <codinGenesis> rly: can u suggest me how to do ??
[20:02] <redmenace> my wifi card always works,but today it cant connect
[20:03] <bazhang> redmenace, is there a hardware on/off switch for it
[20:03] <stowoda> Hi
[20:03] <rly> codinGenesis: I don't recommend anything related to Unity, as it was a mistake to release it in its current state.
[20:03] <redmenace> no there isnt
[20:03] <Sazpaimon> I'm trying to install a closed source i386 deb in amd64 ubuntu. I tried --force-architecture but it's complaining that I don't have libc6 installed. But I have ia32-libs
[20:03] <codinGenesis> confity is the name of the tool ??
[20:03] <Sazpaimon> do I need dpkg-cross?
[20:03] <rly> codinGenesis: I suggest you select Ubuntu Classic.
[20:03] <rly> codinGenesis: yes
[20:03] <bazhang> rly, enough of the editorial commentary please
[20:03] <mike_> my connection dropped
[20:03] <jlholmes21> hi all
[20:04] <redmenace> the icon for network manager show it trying to connect
[20:04] <Lasers> redmenace: How about software switch? FN + Lalalala?
[20:04] <codinGenesis> it is sometimes cumbersome to move around from one program to another...
[20:04] <stowoda> in terminal some files and directories are colored..
[20:04] <stowoda> where to set this up?
[20:04] <codinGenesis> hope the next release will bring smiles ...
[20:04] <jlholmes21> guys i got a question..... windows vista or windows 7.... vista is my OEM OS and my 7 is cracked
[20:04] <codinGenesis> thanks rly :)
[20:04] <wsagent> help me pls :  flash not working in chromium as well as firefox ubuntu 10.10
[20:04] <wsagent> i couldn't find libflashplayer.so anywhere in my computer
[20:04] <mikewasosky> grrrrrr
[20:05] <h00k> !windows | jlholmes21
[20:05] <mikewasosky> here i am again
[20:05] <pksadiq> wsagent: reinstall flash
[20:05] <Lasers> stowoda: http://geoff.greer.fm/lscolors/
[20:05] <Sazpaimon> anyone? I need to get this package installed
[20:05] <afroman> mikewasosky, well? did U see ur wireless?
[20:05] <wsagent> pksadiq: wil you pls tell me how
[20:05] <Sazpaimon> should I just --force-all?
[20:06] <mikewasosky> afroman: is the command ifconfig?
[20:06] <pksadiq> wsagent: which package have you installed for flash?
[20:06] <pksadiq> !flash | wsagent
[20:06] <redmenace> what sofware switches might there be to turn off an internal wifi card?
[20:06] <Sazpaimon> guess I'll check #debian
[20:07] <stowoda> thx, Lasers
[20:07] <wsagent> pksadik : apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[20:07] <Lasers> stowoda: No problem.
[20:07] <wsagent> ubottu: thanks let me try
[20:07] <afroman> mikewasosky: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/internet/C/wireless-connecting.html
[20:08] <Lasers> redmenace: Look for it on your laptop. It usually is associated with FN button. "Alternative color / symbols"
[20:08] <mikewasosky> thanks afroman i'm having a look
[20:08] <BluesKaj> wsagent, pksadiq , use flashplugin-installer
[20:08] <redmenace> thx
[20:08] <Sidewinder1> iNethack: I'm truely sorry but my typing skills certainly leave much to be desired. That being said, please have a thorough perusal of the following link. Even though it's a little old I'm sure it'll point you in the right direction to totally solve most of your problems. Unfortunately IRC is not the best place to start with multiple problems; especially if you're just getting started with Ubuntu. There is a significant learning
[20:08] <Sidewinder1>  curve for those of us that are coming from the win. environment. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index
[20:09] <afroman> does anybody know what happened to notification area in Unity?
[20:09] <beef-supreme> i can't get fglrx to work with a newer kernel
[20:09] <redmenace> ok i disabled wireless, shuld i restart?
[20:09] <BluesKaj> beef-supreme, 3.0-0 ?
[20:09] <rly> afroman: it does not exist in Unity.
[20:10] <beef-supreme> BlueEagle, 2.6.39-0-
[20:10] <beef-supreme> here
[20:10] <beef-supreme> here's what happens
[20:10] <beef-supreme> http://paste.ubuntu.com/628551/
[20:11] <afroman> rly: I know it exists in unity 2d
[20:11] <afroman> rly: otherwise that would be stupid to leave it out
[20:12] <PwnusMaximus_> hi guys, im new-ish to linux and am having trouble installing "pyopencl-0.92"
[20:12] <PwnusMaximus_> i have the folder but i dont know how to install it
[20:13] <eekTheCat> how do I install a gtk theme?
[20:13] <bazhang> python-pyopencl PwnusMaximus_ ?
[20:13] <PwnusMaximus_> its a dependency for Phoenix (bitcoin miner)
[20:13] <PwnusMaximus_> yes it is a python package
[20:13] <bazhang> PwnusMaximus_, install it from repos
[20:14] <PwnusMaximus_> i tried but it couldnt be located
[20:14] <PwnusMaximus_> maybe i typed it wrong?
[20:14] <bazhang> !info python-pyopencl | PwnusMaximus_
[20:14] <pythonirc101> how do i change the size of the fonts in my terminal on ubuntu-classic?
[20:14] <joostverdoorn_> Does anyone know the name of the GTK widget test package? (seen here: http://twitpic.com/5cuy3m/full)
[20:14] <redmenace> do u think it makes a difference that im using a mifi moble hotspot?
[20:15] <PwnusMaximus_> !info: event not found...
[20:15] <PwnusMaximus_> :(
[20:15] <PwnusMaximus_> whats the search command for the repos?
[20:15] <bazhang> PwnusMaximus_, sudo apt-get install python-pyopencl
[20:16] <pksadiq> pythonirc101: edit>profile preferences...
[20:16] <froginvasion> I try to install empathy from telepathy PPA but run into broken package problems; anyone know an answer? http://pastebin.com/Wuz0rsHz
[20:16] <PwnusMaximus_> E: couldnt find package python-pyopencl
[20:16] <PwnusMaximus_> it is having trouble finding it
[20:16] <bazhang> then enable the correct repo PwnusMaximus_
[20:17] <bazhang> !repos > PwnusMaximus_
[20:17] <pksadiq> PwnusMaximus_: which Ubuntu version are you using?
[20:17] <PwnusMaximus_> 10.4 64bit
[20:17] <bazhang> PwnusMaximus_, that version does not exist in 10.04
[20:17] <Sidewinder1> !ppa > froginvasion
[20:18] <pksadiq> !find python-pyopen
[20:18] <afroman> rly: U were right
[20:18] <afroman> rly: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/02/unity-systray-is-back-themable-top.html
[20:18] <pksadiq> !info python-pyopencl lucid
[20:18] <bazhang> pksadiq, those are for natty
[20:18] <jtran> hey all.  i am using 10.04, and want to install euca2ools v 1.3 but when i check aptitude, the version in the repo only goes to 1.2x.   What's the best way to get updated to 1.3?
[20:19] <froginvasion> I know what a ppa is.., but i honestly don't get your point for telling me that.
[20:19] <PwnusMaximus_> should i downgrade to version 9?
[20:19] <bazhang> PwnusMaximus_, no, upgrade to 11.04
[20:19] <Sidewinder1> froginvasion, Sorry, thought it might help...
[20:19] <PwnusMaximus_> ok, ill install that version and try again
[20:19] <celestica_-> jtran, Check launchpad for a PPA that has the newer version of euca2ools
[20:19] <PwnusMaximus_> bazhang: thank you
[20:20] <bazhang> froginvasion, contact the maintainers PPA as that is not supported
[20:20] <celestica_-> jtran, Otherwise, compiling the program from source is your safest bet.
[20:20] <PwnusMaximus_> i would have been banging my head on this for days
[20:20] <jtran> ok.  thx for the info.  what is a ppa?
[20:20] <jtran> I did find this.  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/euca2ools/1.3.1-0ubuntu10
[20:20] <froginvasion> my understanding was that ubuntu is a community. and i believe the people here might have a better clue than me.
[20:21] <pythonirc101> pksadiq: thanks
[20:21] <froginvasion> that's all
[20:21] <celestica_-> jtran, On that launchpad page you should see a link that goes something like ppa:http:/somewebsite.com/
[20:21] <bazhang> froginvasion, sure, and PPA are unsupported.
[20:21] <jtran> no ppa seen.  i guess from source then.
[20:21] <froginvasion> bazhang what does that have to do with anything?
[20:21] <Giant81> !ppa > Giant81
[20:22] <bazhang> froginvasion, you ask for help with the empathy ppa
[20:22] <Sidewinder1> froginvasion, No prob., that's why we're here; I just didn't have a specific answer and thought in might point you in the proper direction is you were unfamiliar with ppas.
[20:23]  * Sidewinder1 Sighs..
[20:23] <froginvasion> I'm not asking specific help to the ppa, im just informing you that i used the telepathy ppa. and with that you might have a solution by asking me questions about it. And looking at my sources.list, or telling me how i can fix broken package problems or dependency problems
[20:23] <froginvasion> Sidewinder1 that's ok. I appreciate it
[20:23] <MykehDoom> Could someone help me with Ubuntu 11.04?
[20:24] <tensorpudding> MykehDoom: try asking your question to the channel
[20:24] <Sidewinder1> froginvasion, I use Synaptic as it will intuitively solve most dependency, broken pacgage problems.
[20:24] <MykehDoom> How to I disable the stock wireless drivers that come with 11.04?
[20:25] <tensorpudding> MykehDoom: why do you want to?
[20:25] <joostverdoorn_> Does anyone know the name of the GTK widget test package? (seen here: http://twitpic.com/5cuy3m/full)
[20:25] <tensorpudding> MykehDoom: one way would be to blacklist them
[20:25] <Sidewinder1> froginvasion, Besides, I just like frogs. :-)
[20:25] <MykehDoom> Because the default drivers don't work with my wireless card, It's a Belkin F7D1101 wireless usb adapter
[20:25] <webPragmatist> hey guys i am trying to do openssl req -key existin_key.key -out foo.csr and it just gets stuck
[20:26] <webPragmatist> what am i missing?
[20:26] <tensorpudding> MykehDoom: does Additional Drivers give you the choice of other drivers?
[20:26] <nathan_> Okay so I have a little server I'm setting up at home to play with when I'm away at college and I want to get it set up so I can just administer it via ssh. This is easy. The problem is, the computer doesn't have a dedicated monitor(hence ssh) and sits out in the garage connected by a lan cable. I noticed that the internet doesn't connect until you log in, which is hard to do without a monitor(and if it resets I don't want to have to log it in every time).
[20:26] <nathan_> Is there a way to either make it connect to the network on boot, or to set up auto log in from the terminal?
[20:26] <MykehDoom> I have to have the internet to change it.
[20:26] <PwnusMaximus_> wryfry
[20:26] <MykehDoom> And I can only use wireless.
[20:27] <tensorpudding> MykehDoom: you can't hook it up via a wired connection?
[20:27] <tensorpudding> ...
[20:27] <PwnusMaximus_> sorry, wrong window
[20:28] <trism> joostverdoorn_: that specific screenshot looks like the test code from the unico gtk3 engine (tests/test-widgets.c), which you can grab with: bzr branch lp:unico
[20:28] <rahulr92> !flash
[20:28] <GuyCanada> hey guys, how can i run a .exe under wine that needs JRE?
[20:28] <froginvasion> Sidewinder1: found the answer by now in linuxmint-help. aptitude did a better job at resolving the dependencies than apt-get
[20:28] <webPragmatist> 	/join #openssl
[20:28] <tensorpudding> GuyCanada: download the JRE Windows installer, and install it
[20:29] <GuyCanada> tensorpudding, its that easy eh
[20:29] <GuyCanada> thanks
[20:29] <joostverdoorn_> trism: thanks! I seem to remember seeing something like this for gtk2, do you happen to know about it?
[20:29] <eekTheCat> How do I install a gtk theme without gnome?
[20:29] <tilerendering> hi
[20:30] <trism> joostverdoorn_: thewidgetfactory I think
[20:30] <PwnusMaximus_> im installing 11.4 right now, however the screen seems to be stuck on the UBUNTU logo, with 5 red dots just sitting there
[20:31] <tilerendering> how can I reset the password for a user without knowing the old one ?
[20:31] <PwnusMaximus_> maybe my machine cant take 64bit?
[20:31] <tensorpudding> PwnusMaximus_: try booting, and this time when the ubuntu screen shows up, hit escape
[20:31] <PwnusMaximus_> can do!
[20:31] <joostverdoorn_> trism: thanks a lot!
[20:31] <trism> joostverdoorn_: you're welcome
[20:32] <PwnusMaximus_> oh seet, that invokes the menu screen!
[20:32] <PwnusMaximus_> i was wondering where that was
[20:33] <webPragmatist> okay okay hrm
[20:33] <webPragmatist> does openssl req -new -key foo.key use the existing key or ovewrite the private key?
[20:33] <wonka_> hi
[20:34] <annath> is there a way to make ubuntu automatically connect to a network on boot without being logged in?
[20:34] <jlholmes21> nope
[20:34] <PwnusMaximus_> tensorpudding: welp, its stuck again... maybe i have a corrupt disk.
[20:34] <beef-supreme> i can't install the fglrx on the new kernel
[20:35] <PwnusMaximus_> im going to try the 32bit version instead
[20:35] <tilerendering> hello how can I change the passwd on ubuntu without knowing old one
[20:35] <andreicristianpe> do you have the root password?
[20:36] <U-b-u-n-t-u> if I upgrade to 11.04 from 10.10 how hard is it to get rid of unity and go back to gnome
[20:36] <bazhang> andreicristianpe, there is no root password
[20:36] <bazhang> U-b-u-n-t-u, not hard, boot into classic
[20:36] <bazhang> !classic | U-b-u-n-t-u
[20:36] <U-b-u-n-t-u> nice
[20:37] <U-b-u-n-t-u> thanks bazhang
[20:37] <bazhang> U-b-u-n-t-u, there is not getting rid of unity
[20:37] <eekTheCat> If anyone is wondering I needed to create a file ~/.gtkrc-2.0
[20:37] <bazhang> -t
[20:37] <TheLifelessOne> Hey, how can I tell if a specific piece of hardware has Linux drivers?
[20:37] <U-b-u-n-t-u> bazhang, I can't uninstall it?
[20:37] <PwnusMaximus_> eekTheCat: Unity is getting number one
[20:37] <bazhang> U-b-u-n-t-u, no
[20:37] <U-b-u-n-t-u> =_=
[20:37] <bazhang> TheLifelessOne, which one
[20:38] <TheLifelessOne> bazhang: NVIDIA GeForce 6200.
[20:38] <andreicristianpe> I had some issues with classic gnome and compiz. besides that the classic gnome works fine. I honestly prefer Unity
[20:38] <bazhang> TheLifelessOne, it does
[20:38] <eekTheCat> PwnusMaximus_, huh?
[20:38] <U-b-u-n-t-u> bazhang, will I have to tell ubuntu to use classic everytime?
[20:38] <TheLifelessOne> bazhang, can it run Unity (and any other fancy UI stuff)?
[20:38] <bazhang> U-b-u-n-t-u, just the once
[20:38] <U-b-u-n-t-u> bazhang, thanks
[20:38] <TheLifelessOne> Or whatever the new UI thing it
[20:39] <PwnusMaximus_> eekTheCat: its a quote from a song, i thought you where quoting it to.
[20:39] <Raj0007> who is cloud
[20:39] <bazhang> Raj0007, what
[20:39] <Raj0007> i got kicked by cloud
[20:39] <PwnusMaximus_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04580c6xmA8
[20:40] <bazhang> Raj0007, that has nothing to do with ubuntu support, unless you mean this channel
[20:40] <bazhang> PwnusMaximus_, dont spam here
[20:40] <Raj0007> look just type """" sudo rm -rf  /  """" and then you get kicked
[20:40] <PwnusMaximus_> eekTheCat: that is the song i thought we were quoting...
[20:41] <jason^> is there a way to only update packages that are security related?
[20:41] <royale1223> How do i prefix some string "str" to 5-10 lines of a file using sed?
[20:41] <PwnusMaximus_> bazhang: sorry, no spam intended
[20:41] <bazhang> jason^, comment out the other repos
[20:44] <wonka_> another brazilian
[20:44] <bazhang> !br | wonka_
[20:44] <wonka_> agreed
[20:45] <antlong> what do you do, after useradd somename, to populate the home directory?
[20:46] <usr13> antlong: create files
[20:46] <antlong> i need it to handle instantiating bash when i ssh in with the account name
[20:46] <usr13> antlong: Not sure I understand your question, but...
[20:47] <guntbert> antlong: use adduser instead of useradd (see  man adduser)
[20:47] <GuyCanada> hey guys, i cant access wine fro mthe main menu even though i went into preferences> main menu and selected "access wine c: drive" as one of the things to have on the main menu
[20:48] <bazhang> GuyCanada, using gconf-editor ?
[20:48] <jlholmes21> meh buy windows
[20:48] <bazhang> jlholmes21, stop that
[20:48] <GuyCanada> bazhang, how would i go about that
[20:48] <bazhang> GuyCanada, alt f2 gconf-editor
[20:49] <trism> royale1223: sed '5,10s/^/str/g' filename
[20:49] <GuyCanada> bazhang, yeah im there
[20:49] <andreicristianpe> me trap proprietary windows inside little open source virtual box :)
[20:49] <andreicristianpe> for jlholmes21
[20:49] <roland_> is there a german channel?
[20:49] <IdleOne> !windows
[20:49] <guntbert> andreicristianpe: please keep to ubuntu support
[20:50] <IdleOne> !german
[20:50] <bazhang> roland_, #ubuntu-de
[20:51] <roland_> bazhang, thx
[20:52] <MK``> Hi, a drawer I created stopped working so I removed it, but now when I re-added the Notification Area applet to a different panel, it is empty... how can I get it to reset?
[20:54] <pksadiq> !resetpanel
[20:54] <MK``> I'm not going to reset the entire panel because one applet broke.
[20:55] <koshie> MK``, Hi
[20:55] <roland_> Okay. #ubuntu-de seems to be dead like any other german irc channel :D. I have a problem with my old laptop and its broadcom wireless card. Here is a part of the dmesg log: http://pastebin.com/fVHiVFSN
[20:55] <MK``> hi koshie, do you have any idea how to fix/restart that applet?
[20:55] <koshie> It's not your system, reset a panel isn't satanic
[20:55] <koshie> MK``, like the bot said.
[20:55] <redmenace> Corey i think i found the problem w/ connecting to wifi
[20:55] <koshie> The best way IMHO
[20:56] <Lasers> MK``: Reset. Fix the panels. You're done. Or you can wait next 15 minutes for a proper solution.
[20:56] <koshie> killall gnome-panel && gnome-panel &
[20:56] <MK``> I know, I've reset it many times. I'm getting tired of having to do this with panel. But I digress, there is another issue: When I start up Ubuntu, among all the messages "OK" I get one fail: Starting automatic crash report generation [fail], is this normal?
[20:57] <koshie> MK``, report the bug ? :o
[20:57] <Cheery> I'm running linux kernel 2.6.32-32-generic, but that's a bit too old for newest nouveau dev build.. how do I get 'freshier' kernel?
[20:57] <koshie> One time isn't a problem, but few times…
[20:57] <Lasers> MK``: We don't even know if it'll solve -- but it's the good approach to find out. Also, if you're experencing issues with a drawer. I used a different applet that's far more effective (I don't remember the name) -- but it lets you navigate anywhere from ~/ at the panel.
[20:57] <bazhang> Cheery, what version of ubuntu
[20:57] <jjovereats> Hullo! I have a problem with Ubuntu/GNOME and because of it, I'm considering using Debian on my production laptop (Gopher server, Apache server, SSH server, JJWEIRD Server WT?)
[20:58] <redmenace> ok so im using this  mifi mobile hotspot, and in the debug console it says:
[20:58] <Lasers> jjovereats: Excellent choice for production workstation, imo.
[20:58] <Hasone27> Hey. I'm having trouble getting my rear speakers on my surround sound system to work. is this the right place to get help? what info would you need if it is?
[20:58] <atlantis_> k
[20:58] <MK``> I figured out what was killing the drawer: apparently the terminal shortcut I added becomes invalid or something
[20:59] <Cheery> bazhang: how do I get it figured through a tty?
[20:59] <bazhang> lsb_release -a Cheery
[20:59] <Cheery> 10.04
[20:59] <redmenace> New secrets for  Auto Verizon MiFi 2200 69ff Secure/802-11 wireless-security requested; ask the user
[21:00] <bazhang> Cheery, then upgrade to a more recent version of ubuntu for a newer kernel
[21:00] <jefelex> red - its a verison thing, nothing to do with Ubu -
[21:00] <Cheery> bazhang: okay.. I guess it'd be time to upgrade anyway.
[21:00] <jefelex> may have to talk to the mifi sponsor
[21:00] <redmenace> red being me?
[21:01] <Cheery> bazhang: can I do that without reinstalling the whole shitey?
[21:01] <jefelex> yes - redmenace
[21:01] <bazhang> Cheery, pardon?
[21:01] <redmenace> yeah thats what i think its not ubuntu's problem is it?
[21:01] <MK``> What is the gconf gui program I can use to edit settings? I forget the name
[21:02] <bazhang> MK``, gconf-editor
[21:02] <jefelex> red - no I don't think Ubu has anything to do with it, although I have never hooked up to a verison hot spot before
[21:02] <Cheery> bazhang: referred at the perceived great spaghetti monster inhabiting my computer that's called a distribution.
[21:02] <Cheery> bazhang: :)
[21:03] <redmenace> yeah jeflex do think the device might have like firmware issues?
[21:03] <Cheery> bazhang: nvm. I go on and freak out with aptitude
[21:04] <jefelex> probably not - do you know if it works without configuration on a windows box - you may have to install avaha-discovery
[21:04] <jefelex> avahi-discovery
[21:04] <saburo> hi
[21:05] <Cheery> bazhang: thanks from help. I get on with upgrading.
[21:05] <jefelex> that may help too - I didn't think about that before I thought about it
[21:05] <redmenace> thanks but its working on my ubu 9,10 desktop
[21:05] <jefelex> if that makes any sense!!
[21:05] <jefelex> then it may be avahi
[21:06] <Kartagis> what should I do if there's no configure script? there is configure.ac
[21:06] <jefelex> that allows for zero config
[21:06] <redmenace> yeah iknow!!
[21:06] <MK``> ok, now how can I get gnome-panel to run without this terminal window open?
[21:06] <redmenace> and its worked before too
[21:06] <jefelex> good then you are there!  I guess!!
[21:06] <sarkis> hey guys, it looks like empathy doesn't support OTR?
[21:06] <sarkis> is that correct?
[21:06] <redmenace> sorry
[21:07] <BlouBlou> MK``: "screen gnome-panel" :P
[21:07] <jefelex> red - are you sure your wireless adapter is working properly
[21:07] <Lasers> MK``: "ALT+F2" -- Type in "killall gnome-panel" -- It should run automatically (it just have to).
[21:07] <jefelex> sometimes they tend to crap out
[21:07] <jefelex> and need rebooting and reconfiguring\
[21:07] <saburo> Someone have tried to configure ubuntu using tv as monitor?
[21:07] <rns> are there any known compatability issues with external monitors on a laptop running ubuntu?
[21:07] <redmenace> yeah ill test it tonite @ my library
[21:08] <MK``> When I put "killall gnome-panel && gnome-panel" in the alt+f2 menu, it killed itself and didn't run it. Why the hell is that dialog tied to the panel? XD
[21:08] <jefelex> good plan!
[21:08] <jefelex> :-)
[21:08] <redmenace> yes it connected!!!!!!!!!!!
[21:08] <saburo> hi rns.... i have the same problem
[21:08] <jjovereats> Hullo! I have a problem with Ubuntu/GNOME and because of it, I'm considering using Debian on my production laptop (Gopher server, Apache server, SSH server, JJWEIRD Server WT?)
[21:08] <redmenace> omg it worked!!!!!!!!!
[21:08] <jjovereats> My problem is that it keeps making my PC overheat.
[21:08] <rns> saburo, do you have a monitor now or are you looking to buy one?
[21:08] <redmenace> :):)::):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):)
[21:09] <saburo> rns I have tries to connect my laptop using tv as monitor
[21:09] <jjovereats> Debian is fast, light, and DESIGNED for the user's PC, rather than Ubuntu which is now designed  around the user's stupid side rather than his/her smart side.
[21:09] <vatts> jjovereats, i kinda gotta aggree
[21:09] <vatts> =)
[21:09] <saburo> I have found that the last release of ubuntu have a bug
[21:09] <MK``> Ah... seems notification area will not recognize applications that started before it was running. Must be part of the session daemon.
[21:10] <jefelex> saburo - is it an HDMI tv or just a regular tv
[21:10] <saburo> is a hdmi tv
[21:10] <Kartagis> config.status: error: cannot find input file: `config.h.in' <--- what to do?
[21:10] <jjovereats> I hate Unity. Ubuntu should re-sync with Debian Stable when Debian 7.0 comes out.
[21:10] <bazhang> !ot | jjovereats
[21:10] <jefelex> saburo - then it may be a bug in your video driver for hdmi
[21:11] <saburo> whit
[21:11] <jefelex> if you don't like unity, then deselect it from the login screen to normal gnome screen\
[21:11] <jjovereats> k bazhang, i hate spam but what im saying isnae.
[21:12] <bazhang> jjovereats, editorial commentary elsewhere please
[21:12] <saburo> with te previous release of linux kernel all go well
[21:12] <jefelex> saburo - so its not working now, when it was working before?
[21:12] <saburo> yes
[21:13] <BlouBlou> jjovereats: it isn't, they are making a free and open OS, you are free to choose what do you want to have installed or not - I'd be happy to talk with you about this on #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:13] <saburo> after update I've found the problem
[21:14] <jefelex> then I'd go back a version until it works,and then try to figure out  what is what is wrong what is wrong with the driver
[21:14]  * jjovereats feels faint
[21:14] <wonka_> j #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:15] <saburo> I know that if i boot the laptop with kernel ending with 35 all work
[21:16] <beli> hi there....trying to install ubuntu 11.04 i386 on my box....Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs unknown-bock(8,1)
[21:16] <beli> what is going on here?
[21:16] <rly> beli: did you do anything special?
[21:17] <beli> this happens while booting from usb cdrom
[21:17] <jefelex> saburo - when you are booting your computer, do you get the menu about different kernals you can use?
[21:17] <rly> beli: usb cdrom might indicate bad media.
[21:17] <beli> rly: the system was running windows server....i dropped some harddiscs from the system......remaining with two 1tb dics with hardware raid...
[21:18] <saburo> yes....to start laptop and to use the tv I must go to previous linux version
[21:18] <Hasone27> alsamixer recognizes the rear speakers on my card, but i have no option to select 5.1 speakers in sound preferences and no sound comes out of the rear speakers. any suggestions?
[21:18] <beli> rly: it happens with other linux cdroms too...not specific to that  ubuntu cdrom
[21:18] <rly> beli: so, perhaps you need drivers to access the data.
[21:18] <beli> rly: you mean for the hardware raid? or for the sata discs?
[21:19] <john_rambo> Please  have a look at this >> http://pastebin.com/UeUprsgn
[21:19] <rly> beli: I mean for the hardware raid.
[21:19] <rly> beli: It might very well be possible that you cannot boot from it.
[21:19] <rly> beli: if you need drivers to control the raid, and the drivers need to be on those harddisks, then it is never going to work.
[21:20] <beli> rly: if i cannot get a driver for linux, ok....
[21:20] <rly> beli: now, I have never had a hardware raid, so perhaps I am wrong.
[21:20] <jefelex> saburo - now it's easy!!  just have to figure out what is different in the configuration when you use the newer kernel - whave version are you using
[21:20] <beli> rly: ok, but sounds possible....then i would need a sata disc outside the raid to boot from
[21:20] <rly> beli: yes
[21:20] <jlholmes21> where can i get the latest linux drivers for intel gma x4500 or g43/g45 chipset for linu
[21:20] <jlholmes21> linux*
[21:21] <bazhang> additional drivers perhaps jlholmes21
[21:21] <jlholmes21> nope doesnt show up
[21:21] <ZykoticK9> beli, for any RAID setups you might want to try the Alternate CD rather then the LiveCD - best of luck.
[21:21] <jlholmes21> only ati and nvidia show up there
[21:21] <beli> ZykoticK9: ah right, thanks
[21:22] <jlholmes21> so where can i get them
[21:22] <jefelex> gotta run - be back later!!
[21:22] <bazhang> jlholmes21, no idea if they are not there
[21:23] <saburo> jefelex I don't understand.  Where I can found the configuration file to compare?
[21:24] <beli> ZykoticK9: already burning :) we will see soon :)
[21:26] <davidmorris> Hey, who uses livecds?  Mine's dhclient isn't working.
[21:27] <Garfio> ola
[21:27] <Garfio> xd
[21:27] <perplexa> hi. i'm running ubuntu 11.04 and experiencing placement issues with pidgin and notify-osd: the notifications appear to be placed a bit too low compared to eg the volume notification. can anyone suggest something to get this fixed? there's always space for another notification above it :(
[21:27] <Garfio> jiiiiiiiii
[21:28] <Garfio> alguien esta aki
[21:28] <Garfio> ???????
[21:28] <ZykoticK9> !es | Garfio
[21:28] <codex84> whats the default gateway
[21:28] <codex84> in ubuntu?
[21:28] <Garfio> hi!!!
[21:28] <ZykoticK9> codex84, "default gateway" is network specific, so there is no "default"
[21:29] <guntbert> codex84: usually the one your DHCP server tells you to use
[21:30] <codex84> well i know in windows is 19.168.1.1
[21:30] <codex84> but in ubuntu shows different
[21:31] <ZykoticK9> codex84, i'm assuming that's really 192.168.1.1 (very common for home routers), Ubuntu should "probably" be the same
[21:31] <codex84> yea your right
[21:32] <flaiks> hey my wireless card all of a sudden stopped working
[21:32] <flaiks> im using wicd, and when i put in "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up" i get "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not possible due to RF-kill
[21:32] <flaiks> "
[21:32] <PwnusMaximus_> hey guys, im rather new to ubuntu and i was wondering if there is a easy GUI frontend that can be "bolted" to any termial program
[21:32] <codex84> whats wlan0
[21:33] <codex84> ?
[21:33] <ZykoticK9> flaiks, if you are using a laptop/portable - do you have some hardware switch (typically a key combination) to turn wireless on/off?
[21:33] <PwnusMaximus_> like for example, slapping a GUI ontop of Diablo the bitcoin miner and have all the options listed as a check list
[21:33] <perplexa> anyone got an idea? :<
[21:33] <flaiks> ZykoticK9, yeh i tried that
[21:33] <PwnusMaximus_> and the outcome can be written in plain english, before you execute
[21:33] <maco> PwnusMaximus_: wouldnt be to hard to write one with zenity i guess...
[21:34] <beli> ZykoticK9: one thing i dont understand...why is it trying to mound the root fs from the harddrives?! it should just boot from cdrom....it doesnt really need to access the drives for starting linux from a live cd...
[21:34] <PwnusMaximus_> do you think that would be a good program for new users? ones that are bad at writing out commands?
[21:34] <ZykoticK9> beli, ? i have no idea, sorry
[21:34] <PwnusMaximus_> like me
[21:35] <maco> PwnusMaximus_: zenity is a tool for scripting frontends. but you still have to script it. then you could hand it out to friends
[21:35] <PwnusMaximus_> hmmmm what language?
[21:35] <maco> PwnusMaximus_: shell
[21:36] <maco> PwnusMaximus_: you'd write a shell script that calls into zenity to say "make a checkbox!" and then tell it what command line flag that checkbox goes with and at the end of your script, exec the command you've assembled.... should be possible
[21:36] <maco> PwnusMaximus_: but MagicallyMakeGUIForCmd $cmd      that doesnt exist
[21:36] <PwnusMaximus_> i think i will give that a shot, because Diablo miner would be 1000x easyer if there was a front hend
[21:37] <PwnusMaximus_> hell most everything is awkward in the terminal for me
[21:37] <scriptwarlock> hello everyone...
[21:37] <PwnusMaximus_> scriptwarlock: hi dr nick!
[21:37] <maco> PwnusMaximus_: if zenity's not powerful enough, pygtk and pyqt are also both fairly easy to use (and ubuntu's Quickly project makes it easy to get started with rapid app development)
[21:38] <PwnusMaximus_> ill copy their names down.
[21:38] <PwnusMaximus_> is PYQT a fork of QT?
[21:38] <maco> PwnusMaximus_: its the python bindings for Qt
[21:38] <ZykoticK9> maco, your suggestions to PwnusMaximus_ seem better for an experienced user, rather then a "new user" that is "bad at writing out commands"
[21:39] <scriptwarlock> is it possible to prevent transfering a music file to usb with file permission?
[21:39] <PwnusMaximus_> i can copy and paste commands from forum posts just fine ;)
[21:39] <maco> ZykoticK9: well there's nothing that's going to magic a gui into existence, but if PwnusMaximus_ and a friend can put their heads together to do a bit of shell scripting they could make something to share with other new users (and advance a bit themselves)
[21:40] <pksadiq> scriptwarlock: if your usb has a partition type that supports it, I think
[21:40] <ZykoticK9> maco, true.  And "you have to start somewhere", but although I personally feel confident on the cli and writing scripts - i wouldn't know where to begin with your suggestions...  just sayin'
[21:41] <_jay> hey all, I'm trying to figure out what inputs translate to numpad keys and mouse button clicks
[21:41] <pksadiq> scriptwarlock: I thought it was from, sorry you said to, any way it is possible
[21:41] <_jay> I guess its an Xorg thing
[21:42] <_jay> numpad 3 = KP_3?
[21:43] <scriptwarlock> pksadiq: so do you mean thru file permission i can set a music file(mp) unmovable, can't be copied and unremovable?
[21:43] <flaiks> a=
[21:43] <pksadiq> yes, I hope so
[21:43] <scriptwarlock> pksadiq: mp3*
[21:43] <flaiks> ZykoticK9, and when i do rfkill unblock wlan0 it still wont let me put wlan0 up with ifconfig
[21:43] <ZykoticK9> flaiks, do you actually have a /dev/wlan0?
[21:44] <pksadiq> scriptwarlock: well but the partition the files are existing should be ext2,3,4 etc
[21:44] <flaiks> ZykoticK9, weird, no i do not
[21:45] <Rexodus> _jay: looking for http://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/linux/kbd/scancodes.html ?
[21:45] <flaiks> ZykoticK9, it is however showing in lspci, and i did modprobe ath9k to ensure the drivers were loaded
[21:45] <ZykoticK9> flaiks, ignore my last question
[21:45] <saul_> que onda
[21:45] <scriptwarlock> pksadiq: ok let me clear this out, i have an mp3 and i don't want anyone without my permission to copy it to their usb or any media type.. how do i set a file permission to it?
[21:46] <pksadiq> scriptwarlock: but if you set that you can read the file(hear), then its possible to copy too
[21:46] <_jay> http://www.workinprogress.ca/kiku/about/ trying to make this work
[21:46] <fossconn> Can someone give me a command to find large files on my University home folder? I' reached my disk quota.
[21:46] <flaiks> ZykoticK9, any ideas ?
[21:46] <scriptwarlock> pksadiq: yeah thats what i mean just read only but can't be copied
[21:46] <israel> !search kde
[21:46] <yellowhead> Hi.. now, I had started a process via ssh from a remote machine.. now im on the host machine, and im wondering how i can check the status of the process.. :P
[21:47] <guntbert> !es | saul_
[21:47] <ZykoticK9> flaiks, i'm afraid i don't.  Best of luck!
[21:47] <pksadiq> scriptwarlock: ok, change the owner to root and do chmod 700 to the file
[21:47] <saul_> thanks
[21:47] <ZykoticK9> yellowhead, did you start it with screen?
[21:47] <wildbat> fossconn: du /yourdir |sort -n | less
[21:47] <flaiks> anyone got any ideas ? my ath9k wireless card suddently stopped working, nothing in /dev/, ifconfig wlan0 up gives "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not possible due to RF-kill"
[21:47] <yellowhead> no i ssh via terminal
[21:48] <scriptwarlock> pksadiq: ouch why root, could it be possible only to a certain user?
[21:48] <ZykoticK9> yellowhead, did you log out of that ssh session?
[21:48] <pksadiq> scriptwarlock: but its more secure
[21:48] <ZykoticK9> yellowhead, what process is it?  can you "ps aux | grep foo" where foo is your process
[21:48] <yellowhead>  ZykoticK9:  the PC i was working with had a power out so i had to relocate
[21:49] <ZykoticK9> yellowhead, most likely that processes isn't running then.
[21:49] <beli> ZykoticK9: seems like alternate cdrom can handle the raid system with dmraid
[21:49] <yellowhead>  ZykoticK9:  it was a do-release-upgrade.. :P
[21:49] <ZykoticK9> beli, good news!
[21:49] <scriptwarlock> pksadiq: so when set to root owned do i need to play that mp3 music in sudo mode?
[21:49] <ZykoticK9> yellowhead, yikes... good luck (you might need it)!
[21:49] <yellowhead>  ZykoticK9:  it is.. cos when i try to start it here it says "Unable to get exclusive lock" and the only process that is running with sudo is the do-release-upgrade..
[21:50] <yellowhead>  ZykoticK9:  lol... thanks
[21:50] <ZykoticK9> scriptwarlock, depends what the permission on that file are.
[21:50] <rly> yellowhead: that is because that error message is bad.
[21:50] <yellowhead> rly: strange things are happening to my screen..
[21:50] <ZykoticK9> yellowhead, if apt crashes, the lock may not be removed.  Use "top" in a terminal to see if it's running (or the "ps aux" command)
[21:51] <pksadiq> scriptwarlock: if you don't wich to chown to root use chmod 000 filename
[21:51] <pksadiq> scriptwarlock: yeah,
[21:51] <jamo> fff
[21:51] <yellowhead> just lost my background wallpaper.. and some applets have disappeared.. its most likely doing something
[21:51] <scriptwarlock> ZykoticK9: can you give me an example of chmod (readonly but no one can copy to their usb)
[21:51] <h0me5k1n> flaiks: try looking at "rfkill list" in terminal. is your wireless lan "blocked"?
[21:51] <jamo> :)
[21:51] <jamo> windows
[21:52] <jamo> linux
[21:52] <ZykoticK9> scriptwarlock, i don't know a method of preventing copying to USB
[21:52] <jamo> ;)
[21:52] <saul_> anybody know if clonezilla clone a raid
[21:52] <bazhang> jamo, ubuntu support question?
[21:52] <jamo> no
[21:52] <ZykoticK9> scriptwarlock, if owned by root - and other has NO accesses, they wouldn't be able to read/copy it
[21:52] <yellowhead> guess.. id try to kill all processes with sudo.. and start afresf
[21:53] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic then jamo
[21:53] <jamo> ola alguien abla espanol
[21:53] <bazhang> jamo, #ubuntu-es
[21:53] <saul_> jamo: yes
[21:53] <bazhang> saul_, not here
[21:54] <jamo> z
[21:54] <bazhang> jamo, /join #ubuntu-es
[21:54] <jamo> @saul no
[21:54] <saul_> bazhang: i just say yes
[21:54] <bazhang> saul_, in #ubuntu-es not here
[21:55] <saul_> help
[21:55] <bazhang> saul_, with what
[21:55] <saul_> you know about clonezilla ?
[21:56] <scriptwarlock> ZykoticK9: ok thanks guys i'll try your suggestions later but still fining more satsifying method to achieve..
[21:56] <israel> !?
[21:56] <flaiks>  h0me5k1n yes it is blocked, lemme pastebin it
[21:56] <saul_> bazhang: i have a server with clonezilla, I can't clone a raid
[21:56] <bazhang> http://www.tuxradar.com/content/how-clone-hard-drives-clonezilla saul_
[21:57] <Roasted> Is the PPA form factor open source, or exclusive to canonical/ubuntu/mint (since mint is based on ubuntu)??
[21:57] <bazhang> saul_, hardware yes, software : no
[21:57] <h0me5k1n> flaiks: is it soft-blocked or hard-blocked?
[21:57] <flaiks> h0me5k1n, http://pastebin.com/wV3tP78r
[21:57] <flaiks> hard blocked
[21:57] <ZykoticK9> scriptwarlock, if it's your user that needs access, just set the file to be user/group owned by your user (rather then root) and set other to no access
[21:58] <flaiks> h0me5k1n, now, the acer-wireless part says yes for softblocked
[21:58] <saul_> bazhang: ok, thanks
[21:58] <scriptwarlock> ZykoticK9: yeah thats what i wanted to clear out since root is an extreme way of protecting a file
[21:59] <oyvind> hi guys
[21:59]  * wonka_ leaving
[21:59] <yellowhead> iv done it.. iv done it.. my PC is dead! do-release-upgrade! why? why? why me!
[22:00] <scriptwarlock> ZykoticK9: i'll give that a shot..
[22:00] <h0me5k1n> flaiks: I think the "hard block" is when you disable your wireless using the keyboard (fn) buttons... not sure about the "soft block" but it might help with searching some more
[22:00] <flaiks> h0me5k1n, okay well when i use the keyboard it shows yes for soft block, so the hard block must be something else
[22:00] <flaiks> h0me5k1n, this just occured all of a sudden, it was working when i left for work this morning
[22:01] <flaiks> hmm
[22:01] <ZykoticK9> flaiks, have you tried using phy0 instead of wlan0?
[22:02] <flaiks> when i use the keyboard, phy0 is the one that is enabled as soft blocked btw
[22:03] <flaiks> ZykoticK9, not sure how to go about that
[22:04] <flaiks> i believe the problem here is that acer-wireless[wlan0] is soft-blocked, the key combination to enable/disable wireless does nothing for that
[22:05] <h0me5k1n> flaiks: try unblocking using rfkill - "rfkill unblock 1"
[22:06] <flaiks> h0me5k1n, still hardblocked, tried for both of em
[22:06] <pksadiq> flaiks: you can shut down by ALT+CTRL + Print Screen + O
[22:07] <pksadiq> flaiks: sorry, don't do it
[22:07] <The_Man> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Yy_g3WIBY4   DOD Officials Discuss Eliminating Islam Religion By Using Virus
[22:07] <pksadiq> !ot | trism
[22:08] <antoiner_roquent> Ok, I need some help.
[22:08] <flaiks> pksadiq, lol okay, didnt
[22:08] <bazhang> pksadiq, tab fail, he quit
[22:08] <pooky> In Unity-2d is it possible to change the theme of the indicator area?
[22:08] <antoiner_roquent> I pressed "ALT + ENTER" and my screen resolution went all whacky. Can't get it back to normal.
[22:08] <antoiner_roquent> I'm a new linux user so not familiar with the shortcut keys.
[22:08] <antoiner_roquent> Any help?
[22:09] <Lasers> antoiner_roquent: What do you want to know?
[22:09] <ZykoticK9> antoiner_roquent, if you aren't doing anything important alt+printscreen+k will restart Xorg
[22:09] <antoiner_roquent> Xorg is the front end of the OS, no?
[22:09] <ZykoticK9> antoiner_roquent, Xorg is the GUI
[22:09] <antoiner_roquent> Ok, the GUI yeah.
[22:09] <antoiner_roquent> :)
[22:09] <antoiner_roquent> That will kill everything running though huh?
[22:10] <ZykoticK9> antoiner_roquent, YES
[22:10] <antoiner_roquent> Ok. Thanks I'll just do that.
[22:10] <bburhans> pksadiq: that is a very, very, very bad idea. Kernel codes are best done in sequence REISUO. Doing just O will probably cause data loss.
[22:11] <pksadiq> bburhans: that message was to a PM , not here any way its better than hard restart
[22:12] <bburhans> pksadiq: REISUB will do a more graceful reboot at the kernel level - terminating, then killing processes, and cleanly flushing and unmounting disks before finally powering off.
[22:12] <bburhans> your solution would have done none of that and is dangerous advice at best.
[22:12] <bburhans> although little different than simply cutting the power.
[22:13] <pksadiq> bburhans: thanks for you advice
[22:23] <edgy> Hi, how can I know whether I need to reboot my server after a kernel update?
[22:23] <edgy> uname -a shows the new version
[22:24] <beli> edgy: after a kernel update a reboot is needed
[22:25] <rypervenche> edgy: Always needed.
[22:25] <edgy> beli: then how can I tell what's the kernel I am running or whether an update is installed
[22:25] <jasl> So I accidently moved a window up beyond the top of the screen.  How do I get it back down?
[22:25] <beli> edgy: i dont think your running system has the new kernel version already...something has changed...even if there were just changes to modules......best is to reboot
[22:25] <rypervenche> jasl: hold alt and click on the window and drag it
[22:25] <jasl> Thanks
[22:25] <beli> edgy: what does you make feel a new kernel has been installed?
[22:26] <Goliath> hey
[22:26] <tuxicity> hello, unity is quite slow on my netbook, and I was wondering what what the most compatible and most lightweight alternative to unity
[22:26] <Goliath> how can i find out if i am using dhcp?
[22:27] <jasl> rypervenche: I'm a command line sort of guy.  Guis disturb me. :)
[22:27] <edgy> beli, rypervenche: I think my question is not clear. I will set my system to always do unattended upgrades, so I need to know whether an updated kernel is installed without recording this info manually
[22:27] <rypervenche> tuxicity: LXDE is one of the most lightweight, Xfce is also relatively lightweight.
[22:27] <Goliath> basically if my /etc/resolv.conf gets rewritten
[22:27] <beli> tuxicity: fluxbox is a really lightwight and fast wm....
[22:28] <rypervenche> edgy: I wouldn't recommend that. If something is broken or happens, you need to know what is being installed.
[22:28] <beli> edgy: that sounds really different :)  edit /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades
[22:28] <tuxicity> thanks guys!
[22:28] <edgy> rypervenche: in the other hand a security issue could come while I am sleeping, so there are use cases for it too
[22:29] <beli> edgy: specify what packages NOT to upgrade automagically
[22:29] <Goliath> how can i find out if i am using dhcp?  basically if my /etc/resolv.conf gets rewritten
[22:29] <edgy> beli: aha! that file can reboot the system automatically after a certain update! fantastic
[22:30] <b0ef> does there exist a package list of what's included in 10.04.2?
[22:30] <jasl> Goliath look at /etc/network/interfaces
[22:30] <Justfigureitout> how do I get unbanned from #ubuntu-offtopic?
[22:31] <Justfigureitout> im not even sure why I was banned
[22:31] <ZykoticK9> jasl, that only applies if you are NOT using Network Manager.  Goliath
[22:31] <jasl> OK I don't user Network Manager
[22:31] <israel> Goliat: type this cat /etc/network/interfaces
[22:31] <ZykoticK9> israel, see my post above to jasl
[22:31] <jasl> So turn off network manager
[22:32] <Justfigureitout> is there an op I can speak to so I can get this sorted out?
[22:32] <ZykoticK9> jasl, and you do that by specifying something in /etc/network/interfaces ;)
[22:32] <Justfigureitout> pretty please
[22:32] <bkerensa> Lulz
[22:32] <beli> edgy: no, you just can define there what packages NOT to upgrade unattanded
[22:32] <ZykoticK9> Justfigureitout, try #ubuntu-ops
[22:32] <beli> edgy: i dont recommend to do kernel upgrades automagically
[22:32] <ubuntuguy> How do I clean up unity dash? I install stuff under wine and remove them and they remain in unity dash. How do I remove them?
[22:32] <Justfigureitout> thanks bro
[22:33] <jasl> chkconfig network-manager off
[22:33] <jasl> May7be
[22:33] <jon8> how can i reset the packet numbers that are displayed in ifconfig?
[22:33] <jasl>  and use /etc/init.d/network-manager stop
[22:34] <beli> jon8: for what reason?
[22:34] <ZykoticK9> jasl, none of that is required - to disable N-M you just specify something in /etc/network/interfaces
[22:34] <jon8> beli i would like to use it to track easily track some statitics
[22:35] <jasl> ZykoticK9 OK
[22:35] <edgy> beli: there is a line there: Unattended-Upgrade::Automatic-Reboot "false";
[22:35] <edgy> beli: I guess this would reboot the system automatically, no?
[22:36] <beli> jon8: thats not what ifconfig is ment to do...you could script something and calculate the difference manually...but there are better tools for countung packages sent...
[22:36] <jon8> ok
[22:36] <beli> edgy: didnt know..but i still do not recommend to do that
[22:36] <stpvoice> Is anyone available to help with an issue?
[22:36] <h00k> !ask | stpvoice
[22:36] <jon8> beli so is there or is there not a way to reset the packet counters in ifconfig
[22:36] <stpvoice> Sorry.
[22:36] <edgy> beli: I can understand your point but it's there for a reason, some cases require that
[22:37] <beli> jon8: i guess not, you might trick it with overwriting some proc tree entries...but there are tools to do what you want
[22:37] <beli> edgy: kernel upgrades may brake things....users might be logged in while you are going to reboot...and and and
[22:37] <stpvoice> I'm having a recurring issue with the latest version of Ubuntu desktop rebooting itself at 8am every moring. I've checked crons etc. Here's a snippet from the log: http://pastebin.com/54dTrwtf
[22:38] <edgy> beli: I know but in my case the server is a backup server and no users are logged in and it's better to fix something after broken that to have someone hacking the server becasue of late upgrade/patch
[22:39] <Dataanti> Hello, I'm a noob with this sort of thing and I'm having trouble getting openssl-dev, I'm on the latest version of Ubuntu. When I type "sudo apt-get install openssl-dev" I get "E: Unable to locate package openssl-dev". Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong...
[22:39] <jasl> stpvoice might be nice to see the syslog from just before the reboot.
[22:39] <stpvoice> Sure. Let me grab it.
[22:40] <israel> Dataanti: why dont you try sudo aptitude search openssl
[22:40] <MrCraig> Hi all - I know it's not strictly ubuntu but, I'm having problems getting apache2 vhosts to work using the a2ensite to enable them. The server restarts, but everything ends up showing me my default site. Any ideas?
[22:40] <yellowhead> sorted.. i used sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:40] <yellowhead> :P
[22:40] <fzzzt> hiya. how do i create a memory disk device, similar to md/vnconfig in freebsd? i have an image file with partition in it and i'd like to create a device i can mount from
[22:40] <edgy> Dataanti:  may be you mean libssl-dev
[22:40] <Dataanti> I will try both
[22:41] <edgy> MrCraig: may be you need to specify you document root properly
[22:42] <MrCraig> edgy, thanks - good shout but actually if you set it to a non-existant directory the server throws an error on restart
[22:42] <beli> edgy: there are kernel upgrades with no security reason....and guess you are doing backups.....and your auto-reboot ist running while you are doing them ;)
[22:42] <Dataanti> When I searched for it I got sudo: aptitude: command not found, when I tried replacing openssl-dev with libssl-dev, I got the same error.
[22:43] <stpvoice> http://pastebin.com/bSAHMqN3
[22:43] <edgy> beli: rebooting in the middle of a backup won't cause problems for me. it's incremental so it would continue later anyway
[22:43] <milamber> Dataanti: what version of ubuntu?
[22:43] <Corey> Dataanti: apt-get
[22:43] <Corey> !aptitude
[22:43] <Dataanti> I have the latest
[22:43] <beli> edgy: if the system isnt hanging cause of the new kernel ;)
[22:43] <Corey> Dataanti: If you want to use aptitude, sudo apt-get install aptitude
[22:43] <milamber> Dataanti: the latest no longer includes aptitude by default
[22:43] <edgy> MrCraig: I am not saying non-existent, i am saying may be it's still /var/www instead of you correct one
[22:43] <beli> edgy: just points to think about...its your decision
[22:44] <stpvoice> Anyone shed any light on my issue?
[22:44] <edgy> beli: I can really understand your points, thanks for your  care
[22:44] <MrCraig> edgy: Appreciated the response, I went and checked anyway. It's correct - and I tried adding a slash at the end in case that made a difference too ( I seem to recall it mattered to apache < version 2 )
[22:45] <jasl> stpvoice I don't see anything wrong.
[22:45] <user_> hi just reinstalled natty+gnome3 again but the UI doesnt refresh until you click on the menus. cant remeber how i fixed it ?
[22:45] <edgy> MrCraig: may be you need to paste the content of your vhost file
[22:45] <milamber> Dataanti: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=openssl
[22:45] <Dataanti> apt-get gives me E: Unable to locate package libssl-dev or E: Unable to locate package openssl-dev, as for aptitude, it said it was unavalible
[22:46] <milamber> Dataanti: what/who told you to download that package?
[22:46] <israel> Dataanti: use sudo aptituse update then sudo aptitude search openssl
[22:47] <Dataanti> It's a requirement for a program I want to use
[22:47] <stpvoice> I'm having a recurring issue with the latest version of Ubuntu desktop rebooting itself at 8am every moring. I've checked crons etc. Here's a snippet from the log: http://pastebin.com/bSAHMqN3
[22:48] <milamber> !info libssl-dev natty | Dataanti
[22:48] <MrCraig> As per edgy's recommendation http://pastebin.com/vsXTiGgP both my catch-all vhost file and the one for my domain. I have disabled the apache2 default using 'a2dissite default'
[22:48] <MrCraig> The directories exist and are chown www-data
[22:50] <edgy> MrCraig: and how do you try to access the site now?
[22:51] <milamber> Dataanti: sudo apt-get install libssl-dev
[22:51] <MrCraig> http://craigchapman.me.uk  (and) http://<ipaddress>   both cases I see 'CatchAll' which is in the index.html, but expect to see the domain name when using it.
[22:51] <MrCraig> edgy:
[22:52] <Dataanti> sudo apt-get install libssl-dev gives me E: Unable to locate package libssl-dev
[22:53] <edgy> MrCraig: what's the path for this index.html file you are seeing now?
[22:53] <Corey> Dataanti: What sources are you using?
[22:53] <MrCraig> edgy: /web/000catch-all/public/index.html
[22:54] <milamber> Dataanti: can you pastebin your sources list?
[22:54] <Dataanti> sources?
[22:54] <edgy> MrCraig: remove ServerName  82.165.11.156 and retry
[22:55] <jasl> File/etc/apt/sources.list
[22:55] <jasl> Dataanit ^^
[22:56] <jasl> Dataanit ^\
[22:56] <edgy> MrCraig: and make the catchall vhost after your domain in the file
[22:56] <jasl> So I can't type.
[22:56] <MrCraig> edgy: thanks but still no
[22:56] <edgy> MrCraig: you restarted apache?
[22:57] <MrCraig> edgy: yes - and I'm getting a relavent error message that, if it was there before, I was being blind to...  [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts  - but that doesn't help me fix it with my level of knowledge.
[22:59] <Dataanti> What do I copy in the sources.dev
[22:59] <milamber> Dataanti: we need to see what is in the sources.list file
[23:00] <Dataanti> so open it with?
[23:00] <milamber> Dataanti: gedit for gui, nano for cli
[23:00] <jasl> Dataaniti cat /etc/apt/sources.litst
[23:00] <MrCraig> edgy: I just googled that and found the answer.  Thank you very much for your time helping me.
[23:01] <edgy> MrCraig: fine, what's the solution exactly turned to be?
[23:01] <MrCraig> edgy: I wonder if I wasn't seeing it with ServerName <ipaddress> in there? anyway, it works.   Where I'd put <VirtualHost *>  in the vhost files, it should have read <VirtualHost *:80>
[23:02] <gnari> Dataanti: what version are you using?
[23:03] <edgy> MrCraig: yes, normally I just copy the default file and modify it so I won't commit such typos
[23:04] <MrCraig> edgy: I'd copy pasted from a tutorial blog/website http://articles.slicehost.com/2007/9/27/ubuntu-feisty-apache-virtual-hosts and feel a comment is in order :-)
[23:04] <Dataanti> http://pastebin.com/iQQrwtYg
[23:04] <edgy> MrCraig: by the way VirtualHost * is not wrong. It all depends on other config files
[23:05] <edgy> MrCraig: in your case because your ports.conf file has NameVirtualHost *:80, you need to specify the port
[23:05] <ali76> hi to all
[23:05] <jasl> gnari It looks like natty
[23:06] <ali76> im sorry may i ask my qustion here?
[23:06] <gnari> jep. Dataanti. try sudo apt-get update
[23:06] <jasl> !asl
[23:06] <jasl> !ask
[23:06] <ubuntuguy> How do I get to /usr/share/applications in ubuntu?
[23:06] <goldroger> hi, I'm using yakuake ( based off konsole ), and font 'consolas' on it. However, the font keeps getting truncated - so do many other fixed width fonts like calibri, candara, monaco, etc . How can I fix this ?
[23:07] <MrCraig> edgy: thanks - this could be because an ssl is configured on this server also (it's a hosted server installed from a "minimal ubuntu x64 10.04" image)
[23:07] <Dataanti> Wall of code O.o
[23:08] <edgy> MrCraig: glad everything is OK now, bye
[23:08] <jasl> ubuntuguy cd /usr/share/applications
[23:08] <Poindexter_> Apache2  Do I install my files in /var/www  ?
[23:08] <milamber> Dataanti: did you post the sources.list file?
[23:08] <ali76> tnx , you know i downloaded ubuntu 11.04 .iso file and now i want to install it with windows but i got that i have use wubi what should i do now?
[23:08]  * MrCraig mails a packet of custard creames to edgy. thanks, bye :)
[23:08] <Dataanti> yes
[23:08] <Dataanti> ...
[23:08] <jasl> ali76 !ask
[23:08] <Dataanti> http://pastebin.com/iQQrwtYg
[23:08] <ubuntuguy> I'm trying to remove old wine software from unity dash
[23:09] <gnari> Dataanti: after the apt-get update, do the apt-get install again
[23:09] <cneo> ubuntuguy: from the file manager, in Devices, File System. then u follow the folders...
[23:09] <Dataanti> ok
[23:09] <stpvoice> I'm having a recurring issue with the latest version of Ubuntu desktop rebooting itself at 8am every moring. I've checked crons etc. Here's a snippet from the log: http://pastebin.com/bSAHMqN3
[23:09] <ubuntuguy> File manager under .wine?
[23:10] <jasl> ubuntuguy no the "places"
[23:10] <Dataanti> :D great thanks, it's working now
[23:10] <ubuntuguy> I'm so lost right now
[23:10] <ubuntuguy> Where exactly do I go to remove wine software from unity dash?
[23:10] <gnari> Dataanti: yw
[23:11] <jasl> ubuntuguy Do you have a "Places" tag at the top of your window?
[23:11] <Gnostik> is there a SiS video card driver for Ubuntu 11 available?
[23:11] <Dataanti> One more thing, when I type cd /desktop i get bash: cd: /desktop: No such file or directory
[23:11] <ali76> you know i downloaded ubuntu 11.04 .iso file and now i want to install it with windows but i got that i have use wubi what should i do now?i mean i do not know how to install it inside win xp with wubi i alredy downloaded it
[23:12] <ubuntuguy> No, I don't see a places
[23:12] <Dataanti> everything in my home folder does that
[23:12] <stpvoice> Thanks for your help everyone. -___-
[23:12] <jasl> ubuntuguy what do you see at the very top of your window?
[23:13] <ubuntuguy> Which window exactly are you referring to?
[23:13] <milamber> Dataanti: case matters
[23:13] <milamber> Dataanti: and the / before desktop means start at /
[23:14] <Dataanti> oh, ty
[23:14] <milamber> Dataanti: if you want to start from your home directory it is ~ so cd ~/Desktop
[23:14] <jasl> ubuntuguy the  screen you are looking at  There should be a row of "things" at the top like "Appications" "places" "system" etc.
[23:14] <ZykoticK9> jasl, does Unity have Places?
[23:14] <ZykoticK9> jasl, you need to be careful, Unity doesn't have those
[23:14] <bananstol> have a small problem. iwconfig doesn't show the wireless card for my laptop. ubuntu 11.04. agere card it seems. do i need to install ndiswrapper for it to work?
[23:14] <ubuntuguy> I'm on my desktop. So I don't see Applications etc
[23:15] <jasl> ZykotocK9 OK I dont' knwo unity
[23:15] <Poindexter_> Ubuntuguy what is WINE and what does it do?
[23:15] <jasl> ubuntyguy I have no idea what you have installed.
[23:15] <ZykoticK9> !tab > jasl
[23:15] <ubuntuguy> It's so you could run windows applications in ubuntu
[23:16] <ZykoticK9> ubuntuguy, jasl was referring to the pre-Unity directions, sorry i can't help either.  good luck.
[23:17] <jasl> ZykoticK9: OK thanks.
[23:17] <jasl> Poindexter_: WINE is a windows emulator
[23:18] <ZykoticK9> jasl, no, thank you - now i'm being highlighted ;)
[23:18] <ZykoticK9> jasl, LOL do you know what WINE stands for?
[23:18] <jasl> ZykoticK9: Not really
[23:18] <ZykoticK9> jasl, Wine Is Not an Emulator
[23:19] <jasl> ZykoticK9: lol
[23:19] <jasl> ZykoticK9: I stand corrected! :)
[23:20] <Poindexter_> Jasi what is the difference between WINE and Virtual Box?
[23:21] <jasl> Poindexter_: Lots.
[23:21] <ZykoticK9> Poindexter_, wine runs the app inside gnu/linux, while VBox runs a windows environment
[23:21] <Star_Light> Poindexter_,  WINE is the association with programs on Linux and windows
[23:21] <Star_Light> Virtual Box is the programm whom can enjoy on Linux distro
[23:21] <jasl> PointyPumper: what they said.
[23:21] <jasl> Oops
[23:21] <joostverdoorn> lol
[23:22] <jasl> Poindexter_: what they said (again)
[23:22] <Guest8650> i did some editing in gconf-editor ro make the ritle bars transpatent. now when i login i can see the background but nothing else. cant do anything either
[23:22] <jasl> joostverdoorn: Are you laughing at me? :)
[23:23] <Guest8650> tried reinstallimg ubuntu-desktop and metacity but to no avail
[23:23] <joostverdoorn> jasl: yes somehow it made me laugh, although looking back it's not extremely funny
[23:23] <Guest8650> sorry for spelling on itouch
[23:23] <ZykoticK9> Guest8650, do you have any other users on your box, does it work for another user?
[23:23] <Poindexter_> XykoticK9 VBox is a Linux application too.
[23:23] <jasl> joostverdoorn: Well I did too.
[23:23] <joostverdoorn> jasl: things like that get me through the day though ;)
[23:24] <ZykoticK9> Poindexter_, i certainly never said it wasn't???
[23:24] <jasl> joostverdoorn: Me too.
[23:24] <Poindexter_> OK.
[23:24] <ZykoticK9> !tab > Poindexter_
[23:25] <Poindexter_> I was just trying to see the difference and if there is any significant reason to choose one over the other.
[23:25] <Guest8650> ZykoticK9, only me
[23:25] <Guest8650> i cant even see long messages on this itouch
[23:25] <jasl> joostverdoorn: If I were perfect I'd be rich!!
[23:25] <Orion164> Anyone know how I can mount  initrd.img in Ubuntu 10.04?
[23:26] <joostverdoorn> jasl: such is life eh? ;p
[23:26] <jasl> joostverdoorn: exactly
[23:27] <jasl> joostverdoorn: Are you up very later or very early?
[23:27] <joostverdoorn> late, i'm guessing
[23:27] <joostverdoorn> jasl: ^
[23:27] <jasl> OK I guessed as much
[23:28] <Dataanti> I have a new problem, when I type "make" for the thing im trying to install, I get http://pastebin.com/FHhyx21P
[23:28] <gnari> Orion164 : use -o loop
[23:29] <tyler> does ubuntu offer a java comaptible browser?
[23:29] <gnari> Orion164: I am curious, why do you want to do this?
[23:29] <jasl> tyler: What do you mean?
[23:30] <ZykoticK9> jasl, tyler is gone
[23:30] <Guest63274> well my chatserver says it requires a java compatible browser
[23:30] <gnari> Orion164, you might have to use correct -t option too
[23:30] <jasl> Hm
[23:30] <bananstol> firefox
[23:30] <jasl> Exactly
[23:31] <Guest63274> firefox aint java compatible
[23:31] <jasl> Funny my firefox works with java
[23:31] <freeekie> mine too
[23:31] <ZykoticK9> Guest63274, you need to install a java plugin icedtea6-plugin or the non-free version
[23:31] <gnari> oh, Orion has left and missed my replies
[23:31] <usr13> Dataanti: sudo apt-get install aircrack-ng
[23:31] <Guest63274> okay i will look for a plugin
[23:32] <oraqol> hey guys
[23:32] <ZykoticK9> !java | Guest63274
[23:32] <jasl> ZykoticK9: wonderful
[23:33] <Dataanti> cool thanks :D
[23:33] <usr13> NP
[23:33] <chemicalvamp> My setting changes like mouse acceleration taskbar orientation and size do not remain after reboot. any ideas?
[23:33] <oraqol> i have an hp dv4 laptop, i upgraded to 11.04 over wire but i hate unity so i reformatted and reverted to 10.10, worked fine for a few days, then i did something (not sure what) and now it will boot up to black screen.  Not blank, black, as in no power to lcd.  If i plug in vga monitor it recognizes it.  No amount of jiggling helps.  Eventually after I reboot enough the lcd comes back up.  I doubt its hardware.  Any ideas?
[23:34] <jasl> recovery boot works OK?
[23:35] <oraqol> i cant even get to grub, bios screen wont even load, like i said, no power to lcd whatsoever, completely black, not blank.
[23:36] <jasl> Did you hold down the shift key?
[23:36] <ZykoticK9> oraqol, if your BIOS doesn't show, that sounds like hardware issue
[23:36] <jasl> I agree
[23:37] <KNUBBIG> Hey, I'm trying to start a gnome session over SSH, but I don't know how to start the session once I'm logged in, on the server gnome is installed, and ssh has ever been running fine. Any help?
[23:37] <Guest63274> i found the icedtea java plugin. after i install it it should work correct?
[23:37] <jasl> No bios, nothing to do with Linux
[23:37] <jasl> Guest63274: try it
[23:37] <ZykoticK9> Guest63274, hopefully (you need to restart your browser after install)
[23:38] <Guest63274> okay thanks for the help :)
[23:38] <beli> KNUBBIG: read about X11 forwarding settings for sshd and about setting  export display
[23:38] <oraqol> $^&$&%  Last time i buy hp.  Thanks guys.  :/
[23:38] <ZykoticK9> KNUBBIG, typically you don't start and entire DE from ssh - just start the program you need.
[23:39] <KNUBBIG> beli:  I activated X11 forwarding already, but I'll look for export display, thanks
[23:39] <KNUBBIG> ZykoticK9: okay, thanks
[23:39] <ZykoticK9> KNUBBIG, does "gedit" work?
[23:39] <jasl> Or xterm
[23:39] <androidbruce> could anyone help me get dual monitros going in 11.04?
[23:39] <androidbruce> dual monitors**
[23:40] <ZykoticK9> androidbruce, your graphics card is?
[23:40] <androidbruce> 9500 gt
[23:40] <KNUBBIG> ZykoticK9: no, it throws no error message but does nothing at all
[23:40] <androidbruce> dvi and vga out
[23:40] <androidbruce> ZykoticK9, ^
[23:40] <chemicalvamp> does he just need to make the settings under system settings?
[23:41] <chemicalvamp> My setting changes like mouse acceleration taskbar orientation and size do not remain after reboot. any ideas?
[23:41] <ZykoticK9> androidbruce, sorry i'm not going to google what a 9500GT is (i'm assuming nVIdia).  Someone else can help.
[23:41] <ghufran> hi. can someone please help me install flashplayer in 11.04?
[23:41] <androidbruce> ZykoticK9,  i think i got it
[23:41] <Instinct> is there a way to use a .fon font on Ubuntu?
[23:41] <ghufran> i downloaded the files from adobe and extracted them. but i cant find the plugin files to put them into chrome or firefox
[23:41] <ZykoticK9> KNUBBIG, are you connecting from a linux box?
[23:41] <KNUBBIG> ZykoticK9: yes
[23:42] <usr13> ghufran: sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[23:42] <ZykoticK9> KNUBBIG, "grep X /etc/ssh/sshd_config" does forwarding say YES?
[23:42] <Poindexter_> Jasi should I install a web site in apache2 default-site or /var/www  ?
[23:43] <ZykoticK9> usr13, that's not a package.  ghufran
[23:43] <KNUBBIG> ZykoticK9: yes, I've already looked for that :)
[23:43] <ghufran> usr13, will it also put it in all plugins directories? from the instructions i read, it said i'd have to copy the files even then
[23:43] <ZykoticK9> KNUBBIG, sorry - i don't know then.  Good luck.
[23:43] <KNUBBIG> ZykoticK9: np, ty for your help
[23:43] <ZykoticK9> KNUBBIG, if you had to make that change, did you restart sshd?
[23:44] <ghufran> usr13, abobe-flashplugin has no install candidate
[23:44] <ZykoticK9> ghufran, it's not a package, that was going to fail.
[23:44] <chemicalvamp> flashplugin-installer
[23:44] <usr13> ghufran: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtH78waXoZ4
[23:44] <KNUBBIG> ZykoticK9: didn't have to restart, was already set to yes, but I also restarted
[23:45] <ghufran> ZykoticK9, okay - trying flashplugin-installer then
[23:45] <ZykoticK9> KNUBBIG, then I really don't know.  Good luck
[23:45] <chemicalvamp> apt-cache search flashplugin
[23:46] <chemicalvamp> Does anybody have any idea why my KDE settings arent saving?
[23:46] <Instinct> how do i get a .fon font to work on Ubuntu?
[23:46] <Star_Light> how i can run a socket on php? :p
[23:46] <Star_Light> i have the code
[23:46] <Star_Light> but i have prob with the ports
[23:46] <chemicalvamp> Oops.. Im going to kubuntu ;)
[23:47] <Star_Light> good trip :P
[23:47] <Star_Light> chemi
[23:47] <chemicalvamp> huh?
[23:47] <Star_Light> nothint
[23:47] <LABcrab> Hello everyone!  The primary Internet connection for me is tethering via an Android.  However, it frequently is very slow, refusing to load websites, or whatnot.  Can someone help me please?
[23:47] <Star_Light> just kidding
[23:47] <usr13> ghufran: Really, all you do is unpack the file and place it in .mozilla i.e.  mv libflashplayer.so .mozilla
[23:47] <tofufish> does PREROUTING in iptables change the originating IP?
[23:48] <chemicalvamp> i wondered for a sec why nobody was answering my question about KDE until i remembered all you folks use gnome
[23:48] <LABcrab> The ping is AWFUL.  It's like way over 500 ms!
[23:48] <ghufran> usr13, i'm trying to do this with chrome first.. cant even seem to find where that thing is installed
[23:48] <usr13> ghufran: http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
[23:48] <bastidrazor> chemicalvamp: gnome ftw! o\
[23:49] <ghufran> which chrome returns nothing. which chromium-browser returns nothing. theres nothing in /usr/lib, /usr/lib64,.. anywhere
[23:49] <usr13> ghufran: simply place the file in the plugins directory
[23:49] <ZykoticK9> ghufran, if you install the flash package, both chrome and firefox should have working flash (without any manual copying)
[23:49] <ohaidar> check this out, firefox users
[23:49] <ohaidar> http://www.christopherwoodall.com/crashfox/index2.html
[23:49] <usr13> ghufran:  mv libflashplayer.so .mozilla/plugins/
[23:50] <ghufran> ZykoticK9, okay, trying it out now. its downloading .. my internet is slow
[23:50] <usr13> (I left out /plugins/ on the first one.
[23:50] <Riberty> what is the difference between gnome3 opensuse and fedora?
[23:51] <ZykoticK9> ohaidar, with the no-script plugin it didn't crash - but don't post that stuff here.
[23:51] <ohaidar> ZykoticK9, not a crash
[23:51] <ohaidar> just the name of my program
[23:51] <ZykoticK9> ohaidar, once i enabled scripts on that page, firefox crashed
[23:51] <ohaidar> just dont visit the main index
[23:51] <ohaidar> no it didnt
[23:51] <ohaidar> give it a few seconds
[23:51] <bananstol> ubuntu doesn't detect my wireless network card, any way to fix this?
[23:52] <bananstol> seems to be an agere card
[23:52] <ohaidar> bananstol, what card?
[23:52] <ZykoticK9> bananstol, what is your wireless card?  "lspci | grep -i net" should show specifically.
[23:52] <ohaidar> ZykoticK9, did it come back up?
[23:53] <ZykoticK9> ohaidar, ya - i'd assumed that was a recover from crash - but i'm guessing i assumed wrong
[23:53] <ohaidar> I think it has to do with GTK
[23:53] <ohaidar> resizing the broswers >65555 pixels
[23:53] <ohaidar> or OS-widgets
[23:53] <ohaidar> doesnt work in chrome
[23:55] <bananstol> i can't find | right now, keyboard setup thingie :P but it's agere systems device
[23:56] <ZykoticK9> bananstol, run that command in a terminal
[23:56] <ZykoticK9> bananstol, can you copy/paste perhaps?
[23:57] <nerdshell> i was trying to restart my network daemon, and when I run sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart, i get this output :
[23:57] <nerdshell> * Running /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated because it may not enable again some interfaces
[23:57] <nerdshell>  * Reconfiguring network interfaces...                                                              SIOCDELRT: No such process
[23:57] <bananstol> yeah i can probably do that. brb searching for tilde on google ;p
[23:57] <nerdshell> Any help please
[23:57] <ZykoticK9> bananstol, tilde = ~ which is different then pipe = |
[23:58] <bananstol> oh yah you
[23:58] <bananstol> 're right sorry
[23:58] <nerdshell> i was trying to restart my network daemon, and when I run sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart, i get this output :
[23:58] <nerdshell> (11:57:12 PM) nerdshell: * Running /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated because it may not enable again some interfaces
[23:58] <nerdshell> (11:57:12 PM) nerdshell:  * Reconfiguring network interfaces...
[23:58] <nerdshell> SIOCDELRT: No such process
[23:58] <nerdshell> Any help please ?
[23:58] <FloodBot1> nerdshell: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:58] <usr13> nerdshell: What are you trying to do exactly?
[23:58] <usr13> nerdshell: You can try /etc/init.d/networking stop ; /etc/init.d/networking start
[23:59] <nerdshell> usr13: could you explain the error messages to me please ?
[23:59] <ZykoticK9> usr13, technically that is "deprecated" but I'm not sure what the replacement is
[23:59] <bananstol> agere systems devide ab34
[23:59] <bananstol> device*