| scott-work | ubuntu is one of the most awesomess distributions on the face of the planet | 13:31 |
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| scott-work | but i can't understand why the wiki performs so poorly and frustratingly | 13:31 |
| holstein | scott-work: im glad its not just me | 13:39 |
| charlie-tca | um, they did give it a new update yesterday... Now it takes a LOT longer to log in | 13:41 |
| scott-work | i wanted to edit one of the pages i use to plan releases | 13:44 |
| scott-work | i have to log in again | 13:44 |
| scott-work | i log in again | 13:44 |
| scott-work | it takes me to the wiki.ubuntu.com home page | 13:44 |
| * scott-work scratches his head thinking it didn't do that before | 13:45 | |
| scott-work | i click my bookmark to take me to my release planning page | 13:45 |
| scott-work | it tells me i have to log in again | 13:45 |
| scott-work | -> infinite cycle | 13:45 |
| scott-work | holstein: i was rereading the OSM blog and rediscovered abgate, the lv2 plugin that is a noise gate | 13:45 |
| holstein | yeah, i routinely get an error message when i save | 13:46 |
| scott-work | i wanted to add it to the seeds for oneiric when i make the other changes | 13:46 |
| scott-work | weird...after three tries, now i can go to this page and edit it :) | 13:46 |
| astraljava | Yeah, that wiki SUCKS! | 13:47 |
| charlie-tca | Yeah, I got the same nonsense logging in | 13:50 |
| charlie-tca | The improvement appears to be another step backwards | 13:50 |
| charlie-tca | At least before it took me to the page I wanted after login | 13:50 |
| holstein | maybe its just outgrown itself | 13:52 |
| holstein | the amount of users/pages | 13:52 |
| charlie-tca | I haven' t seen any other moinmoin wiki so slow though | 13:54 |
| charlie-tca | I think it has more to do with Ubuntu/Canonical changes that don't quite work | 13:54 |
| scott-work | i didn't think the wiki worked well before, and it seems to be working less well now | 14:11 |
| scott-work | :( | 14:11 |
| astraljava | Yeah. Are the powers that be not using it at all? | 14:12 |
| scott-work | i wouldn't think this should be a scalability issue | 14:12 |
| scott-work | s/should/should NOT | 14:12 |
| astraljava | Or is no-one just complaining about it? | 14:12 |
| scott-work | unless they have an old P3 with 512M memory in a cupboard is being used for the wiki ;) | 14:13 |
| charlie-tca | tried filing bugs against it? | 14:13 |
| scott-work | i haven't filed a bug for this specific item at this point | 14:14 |
| charlie-tca | I have; it results in " we are working on it, but it takes a while to get the changes approved" | 14:14 |
| scott-work | but i believe i have seen a bug about the wiki being so slow before and with all the errors | 14:14 |
| astraljava | *rolls eyes* | 14:14 |
| falktx | hi there | 15:12 |
| scott-work | hi falktx | 15:22 |
| falktx | hey scott-work | 15:22 |
| scott-work | i tried the menu dilliwhopper again last night | 15:22 |
| scott-work | i rebooted and the menu looked the same | 15:23 |
| scott-work | i even checked to see that ubuntustudio-menu was installed, which it was | 15:23 |
| scott-work | should i install other ubuntustudio packages? | 15:23 |
| scott-work | should i start with ubuntu studio install and then add xfce on top of it? | 15:23 |
| falktx | hm.... | 15:24 |
| falktx | scott-work: the menu looked exactly the same? like no audio p. menu at all ? | 15:25 |
| scott-work | correct | 15:25 |
| scott-work | i did not see an audio submenu | 15:25 |
| scott-work | and of course ardour, qjackctl,hydrogen, rakarrack were all in multimedia | 15:26 |
| scott-work | falktx: there is possibly another issue | 15:26 |
| scott-work | when i have tested installing ubuntustudio packages on top of a vanilla ubuntu install i needed to add a "other menu" widget to the panel | 15:27 |
| scott-work | this gave me the ubuntustudio menu for that install (which was still on gnome2) | 15:27 |
| scott-work | in fact i could have an icon for the vanilla ubuntu menu and the ubuntu studio menu on the same panel | 15:27 |
| scott-work | could this be a similar situation? | 15:28 |
| * scott-work had looked before for an additional menu widget to add to the panel but didn't find one | 15:28 | |
| falktx | scott-work: please test the us-menu with my patch and see if this is fixed | 15:29 |
| falktx | scott-work: oh, the ISO script is kinda working now: | 15:30 |
| falktx | http://kxstudio.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=kxstudio/kxstudio;a=blob_plain;f=scripts/kxstudio-create-iso;hb=master | 15:30 |
| falktx | scott-work: I had some disk issues so I was unable to complete the ISO (kernel img went 0 size...) | 15:31 |
| scott-work | falktx: will do (test with patch) | 15:31 |
| scott-work | falktx: are you saying that i should try the script and that you expect it to work for me? | 15:32 |
| falktx | scott-work: it should be able to create a basic iso right now, not sure... | 15:32 |
| falktx | I was able to build the filesystem.fs, but because of that kernel thing it failed to create the boot | 15:33 |
| falktx | hm, let me try it again... | 15:33 |
| falktx | scott-work: the iso script is pretty much finished, I only need to add the auto-creation of the needed files for boot menu | 16:02 |
| falktx | like boot.cfg, etc | 16:03 |
| scott-work | falktx: super sweet! in the next couple of weeks i'll be sending you some money via paypal :) | 16:21 |
| falktx | scott-work: no hurry, I'm still testing this | 16:22 |
| === falktx is now known as falktx-work | ||
| falktx-work | scott-work: the script is working! | 17:12 |
| falktx-work | just some final details and it will be complete | 17:12 |
| falktx-work | I'm amazed how I got this working so fast... | 17:12 |
| falktx-work | scott-work: I'm rebuilding the squashfs now, I'll let you know how it goes | 17:13 |
| astraljava | So is anyone here actually running natty at the moment? | 18:29 |
| holstein | astraljava: i have test installs | 18:31 |
| holstein | i DL'd xubuntu 11.10 last nite, and tried it live on my netbook | 18:31 |
| astraljava | holstein: But are you running it right now? | 18:31 |
| holstein | there was a nasty bug with the wifi card on this box and 11.04, and that seems to be sorted out :) | 18:31 |
| holstein | astraljava: nah, but i can boot in if you need | 18:32 |
| charlie-tca | Mine is oneiric | 18:32 |
| holstein | i can be in it in 4 minutes | 18:32 |
| astraljava | holstein: I wouldn't ask that of you. I'm just amazed that in my setup, there's no possibility of saving the currently running applications in Startup Applications. | 18:32 |
| astraljava | This is a ubuntu vanilla install with all ubuntustudio packages. | 18:33 |
| holstein | astraljava: is there anything like that normally? | 18:34 |
| astraljava | Could something have messed up the original install, or has it been removed completely? | 18:34 |
| holstein | i see an option when shutting xubntu down | 18:34 |
| astraljava | holstein: Yeah there was at least in 10.10. | 18:34 |
| astraljava | But I haven't installed vanilla 11.04 on anything else, and I didn't check before I installed ubuntustudio packages. | 18:34 |
| holstein | astraljava: wheres the option and i'll check | 18:35 |
| astraljava | System | Preferences | Startup Applications | 18:35 |
| holstein | im just watching 'short circuit' and about to run out for a sandwich | 18:35 |
| astraljava | There should be some tab where you could save them. | 18:35 |
| astraljava | Haha. :D | 18:35 |
| astraljava | I just had a pizza. :D | 18:36 |
| holstein | OH yeah... i see that option in 10.04 | 18:36 |
| holstein | ive never used it though... | 18:36 |
| * holstein checks natty | 18:37 | |
| holstein | astraljava: yeah, that tab is gone now it seems | 18:37 |
| holstein | interesting | 18:37 |
| holstein | i actually didnt install any of the meta packages on here either | 18:38 |
| holstein | just JACK and ardour and some others | 18:38 |
| charlie-tca | astraljava: that is in settings -> Session and Startup in Xubuntu | 18:39 |
| holstein | thats from both classic and unity | 18:39 |
| holstein | charlie-tca: still there in 11.10 for you? | 18:39 |
| charlie-tca | May have gone with appearance settings in Unity, though | 18:39 |
| charlie-tca | yes, Xubuntu 11.10 has that | 18:39 |
| holstein | well, its moved or taken out in gnome and unity :/ | 18:40 |
| charlie-tca | You can also right click the panel, click panel, click logoff and mark it there | 18:40 |
| charlie-tca | right, gnome/unity removed several thing | 18:40 |
| astraljava | holstein: Thanks! | 18:41 |
| astraljava | Damn, that's a loss. | 18:41 |
| holstein | right? | 18:41 |
| holstein | thats odd i think | 18:41 |
| holstein | size maybe?... or unity integration i guess | 18:41 |
| charlie-tca | You can't find what used to be system -> Preferences -> Appearance either now in unity | 18:42 |
| holstein | yeah :/ | 18:42 |
| holstein | growing pains, at least i hope its growth | 18:42 |
| holstein | alright... lunch... BBL | 18:43 |
| scott-work_ | charlie-tca: how did you install your oneiric? i couldn't get the vanilla ubuntu to work | 18:55 |
| * scott-work_ is wondering if he should have finished the backscroll before asking the question | 18:55 | |
| charlie-tca | I used the Xubuntu alpha1 image | 18:58 |
| charlie-tca | I did not use Ubuntu's image, cause it drags in too much of Gnome | 18:58 |
| * scott-work_ will be install xubuntu this weekend on his development machine :) | 19:04 | |
| charlie-tca | Keep in mind, we haven't had a good image for over a week now | 19:04 |
| holstein | yeah, i was using xubuntu alpha1 too | 21:22 |
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