[13:31] ubuntu is one of the most awesomess distributions on the face of the planet [13:31] but i can't understand why the wiki performs so poorly and frustratingly [13:39] scott-work: im glad its not just me [13:41] um, they did give it a new update yesterday... Now it takes a LOT longer to log in [13:44] i wanted to edit one of the pages i use to plan releases [13:44] i have to log in again [13:44] i log in again [13:44] it takes me to the wiki.ubuntu.com home page [13:45] * scott-work scratches his head thinking it didn't do that before [13:45] i click my bookmark to take me to my release planning page [13:45] it tells me i have to log in again [13:45] -> infinite cycle [13:45] holstein: i was rereading the OSM blog and rediscovered abgate, the lv2 plugin that is a noise gate [13:46] yeah, i routinely get an error message when i save [13:46] i wanted to add it to the seeds for oneiric when i make the other changes [13:46] weird...after three tries, now i can go to this page and edit it :) [13:47] Yeah, that wiki SUCKS! [13:50] Yeah, I got the same nonsense logging in [13:50] The improvement appears to be another step backwards [13:50] At least before it took me to the page I wanted after login [13:52] maybe its just outgrown itself [13:52] the amount of users/pages [13:54] I haven' t seen any other moinmoin wiki so slow though [13:54] I think it has more to do with Ubuntu/Canonical changes that don't quite work [14:11] i didn't think the wiki worked well before, and it seems to be working less well now [14:11] :( [14:12] Yeah. Are the powers that be not using it at all? [14:12] i wouldn't think this should be a scalability issue [14:12] s/should/should NOT [14:12] Or is no-one just complaining about it? [14:13] unless they have an old P3 with 512M memory in a cupboard is being used for the wiki ;) [14:13] tried filing bugs against it? [14:14] i haven't filed a bug for this specific item at this point [14:14] I have; it results in " we are working on it, but it takes a while to get the changes approved" [14:14] but i believe i have seen a bug about the wiki being so slow before and with all the errors [14:14] *rolls eyes* [15:12] hi there [15:22] hi falktx [15:22] hey scott-work [15:22] i tried the menu dilliwhopper again last night [15:23] i rebooted and the menu looked the same [15:23] i even checked to see that ubuntustudio-menu was installed, which it was [15:23] should i install other ubuntustudio packages? [15:23] should i start with ubuntu studio install and then add xfce on top of it? [15:24] hm.... [15:25] scott-work: the menu looked exactly the same? like no audio p. menu at all ? [15:25] correct [15:25] i did not see an audio submenu [15:26] and of course ardour, qjackctl,hydrogen, rakarrack were all in multimedia [15:26] falktx: there is possibly another issue [15:27] when i have tested installing ubuntustudio packages on top of a vanilla ubuntu install i needed to add a "other menu" widget to the panel [15:27] this gave me the ubuntustudio menu for that install (which was still on gnome2) [15:27] in fact i could have an icon for the vanilla ubuntu menu and the ubuntu studio menu on the same panel [15:28] could this be a similar situation? [15:28] * scott-work had looked before for an additional menu widget to add to the panel but didn't find one [15:29] scott-work: please test the us-menu with my patch and see if this is fixed [15:30] scott-work: oh, the ISO script is kinda working now: [15:30] http://kxstudio.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=kxstudio/kxstudio;a=blob_plain;f=scripts/kxstudio-create-iso;hb=master [15:31] scott-work: I had some disk issues so I was unable to complete the ISO (kernel img went 0 size...) [15:31] falktx: will do (test with patch) [15:32] falktx: are you saying that i should try the script and that you expect it to work for me? [15:32] scott-work: it should be able to create a basic iso right now, not sure... [15:33] I was able to build the filesystem.fs, but because of that kernel thing it failed to create the boot [15:33] hm, let me try it again... [16:02] scott-work: the iso script is pretty much finished, I only need to add the auto-creation of the needed files for boot menu [16:03] like boot.cfg, etc [16:21] falktx: super sweet! in the next couple of weeks i'll be sending you some money via paypal :) [16:22] scott-work: no hurry, I'm still testing this === falktx is now known as falktx-work [17:12] scott-work: the script is working! [17:12] just some final details and it will be complete [17:12] I'm amazed how I got this working so fast... [17:13] scott-work: I'm rebuilding the squashfs now, I'll let you know how it goes [18:29] So is anyone here actually running natty at the moment? [18:31] astraljava: i have test installs [18:31] i DL'd xubuntu 11.10 last nite, and tried it live on my netbook [18:31] holstein: But are you running it right now? [18:31] there was a nasty bug with the wifi card on this box and 11.04, and that seems to be sorted out :) [18:32] astraljava: nah, but i can boot in if you need [18:32] Mine is oneiric [18:32] i can be in it in 4 minutes [18:32] holstein: I wouldn't ask that of you. I'm just amazed that in my setup, there's no possibility of saving the currently running applications in Startup Applications. [18:33] This is a ubuntu vanilla install with all ubuntustudio packages. [18:34] astraljava: is there anything like that normally? [18:34] Could something have messed up the original install, or has it been removed completely? [18:34] i see an option when shutting xubntu down [18:34] holstein: Yeah there was at least in 10.10. [18:34] But I haven't installed vanilla 11.04 on anything else, and I didn't check before I installed ubuntustudio packages. [18:35] astraljava: wheres the option and i'll check [18:35] System | Preferences | Startup Applications [18:35] im just watching 'short circuit' and about to run out for a sandwich [18:35] There should be some tab where you could save them. [18:35] Haha. :D [18:36] I just had a pizza. :D [18:36] OH yeah... i see that option in 10.04 [18:36] ive never used it though... [18:37] * holstein checks natty [18:37] astraljava: yeah, that tab is gone now it seems [18:37] interesting [18:38] i actually didnt install any of the meta packages on here either [18:38] just JACK and ardour and some others [18:39] astraljava: that is in settings -> Session and Startup in Xubuntu [18:39] thats from both classic and unity [18:39] charlie-tca: still there in 11.10 for you? [18:39] May have gone with appearance settings in Unity, though [18:39] yes, Xubuntu 11.10 has that [18:40] well, its moved or taken out in gnome and unity :/ [18:40] You can also right click the panel, click panel, click logoff and mark it there [18:40] right, gnome/unity removed several thing [18:41] holstein: Thanks! [18:41] Damn, that's a loss. [18:41] right? [18:41] thats odd i think [18:41] size maybe?... or unity integration i guess [18:42] You can't find what used to be system -> Preferences -> Appearance either now in unity [18:42] yeah :/ [18:42] growing pains, at least i hope its growth [18:43] alright... lunch... BBL [18:55] charlie-tca: how did you install your oneiric? i couldn't get the vanilla ubuntu to work [18:55] * scott-work_ is wondering if he should have finished the backscroll before asking the question [18:58] I used the Xubuntu alpha1 image [18:58] I did not use Ubuntu's image, cause it drags in too much of Gnome [19:04] * scott-work_ will be install xubuntu this weekend on his development machine :) [19:04] Keep in mind, we haven't had a good image for over a week now [21:22] yeah, i was using xubuntu alpha1 too